The Draft's Impact on the Packers Roster
By jasonperone
With the draft in the rear-view mirror, the Green Bay Packers can now work towards planning their future.
The Packers selected 11 players, the most since the 2013 draft. With that many players and with three of those selections coming in the seventh round, not all of them will land on the team's final roster in 2018.
For those who seemingly have a good chance to be in a Packers uniform come opening day, let's take a look at the impact they may have on the current roster.
No disrespect at all to seventh rounders Kendall Donnerson and James Looney, but I don't see either of them cracking the roster this season. Practice squad is their likely ceiling this year if the Packers choose to hang onto them after training camp.
Jaire Alexander, Cornerback
Alexander was the top corner on Mike Mayock's board and Mayock was one of the few to accurately mock the Louisville corner to the Packers. He's clearly a day one starter, barring an injury or some odd inability of him to prove that he can do so.
Alexander seems naturally suited to be the team's slot cornerback and will don Damarious Randall's old #23 this season. Alexander doesn't lack confidence and seems excited to be a part of the Green & Gold based on his post-draft reaction.
With Randall long gone, Alexander fills a hole. Trevor Davis faces the biggest danger with Alexander's arrival, as Alexander is also a punt returner. Both Davis and Alexander possess top speed, but Davis has struggled to contribute in any other way and coupled with his off-field gaffe earlier this offseason, Davis could be headed out of Green Bay sooner than later.
Josh Jackson, Cornerback
Jackson's selection at spot 45 on day two of the draft had many Packers fans jumping for joy. Jackson was a first-round prospect on many boards and the likelihood of his being available to the Packers on day two without a trade up didn't seem very likely at the outset.
Suddenly, the Packers ended his slide and gave the Iowa prospect his chance at the NFL. Jackson comes in with a chip on his shoulder and while that alone won't help him become a solid starter right away, Jackson could wedge his way into the starting lineup as the season wears on.
The Packers brought back Tramon Williams and Davon House for some veteran depth at corner but if Jackson proves serviceable on the outside, his era will begin. Kevin King will man the other side. Jackson's arrival could mean a tough road for either Williams or House to stick on the final roster.
The Packers may have gone a different route at spot 45 had, say, Harold Landry been available. But General Manager Brian Gutekunst couldn't pass up the value of Jackson there and a chance to add another high-potential cornerback to the defense.
Also on the chopping block could be Quinten Rollins, a converted basketball player who never flourished in his role as a corner and has had injury problems. Josh Hawkins, Lenzy Pipkins, Donatello Brown and Herb Waters will also now be battling harder for a spot on the corner depth chart.
Oren Burks, Linebacker
Burks wasn't a widely-known name in this year's linebacker crop but his athletic abilities make it clear why the Packers added him to the roster. Whether Burks can play right away is unknown at this point, but if he turns into what he's hoped to be, he will upgrade the middle of the defense.
Burks is rangy and can cover, something Packers linebackers have failed to do for years and years. He'll play along side Blake Martinez, who had a breakout season in 2017.
Burks could spell the end of Jake Ryan's time in Green Bay after the 2018 season, if he can add the coverage element that Ryan can't. Additionally and if he can earn the spot, Burks also likely replaces Joe Thomas in the dime linebacker role. Thomas, an undrafted free agent, was OK in that spot but never jumped off the page. As a third round pick, Burks will be given every chance to unseat the incumbents.
J'mon Moore, Wide Receiver
Moore is a 6'3" prospect with decent speed and has some incredible catches on his collegiate resume. Coverage talent aside, those one-handed and sideline catches are the result of pure ability. Moore has the make up to be an outside receiver in Green Bay's offense.
Jordy Nelson was let go and the Packers were in need of Davante Adams' counterpart. They hope Moore can be that guy. He comes in with a lot of fire in his belly, but he did have some self-control issues in tough moments at Missouri. He'll have to mature fast at the NFL level but as a high pick, the Packers are going to give him ample chances to take hold of a starting role.
Moore's arrival may have an impact on Michael Clark, the undrafted receiver who played a bit at the end of 2017. Clark is another big body with a full year in Green Bay's offense and the team seems high on him so it's unlikely that Moore's emergence is a huge danger, but that will develop as training camp gets underway.
The biggest impact Moore has will likely be to Deangelo Yancey, who spent all of last season on Green Bay's practice squad after being drafted in the fifth round. Yancey signed a futures contract with the Packers right after the 2017 season ended.
Cole Madison, Guard
Madison just looks like a Green Bay Packer, doesn't he? Last season the Packers signed veteran Jahri Evans to hold down the right guard spot vacated by T.J. Lang. Evans was serviceable at best but wasn't spectacular. Madison's arrival makes it unlikely that the Packers bring Evans back on a new deal. They'll want to inject youth into the offensive line and find a long-term solution in the interior. Madison thrived in an offensive system that favored the pass in college.
With Bryan Bulaga out until mid-season, Kyle Murphy likely plugs in at right tackle, unless Jason Spriggs surprises us all and dramatically improves on last season. That leaves only Justin McCray and Lucas Patrick as true competitors on the inside. The right guard spot is Madison's to win and hang onto.
JK Scott, Punter
When this selection was made, I shook my head. Flashbacks to Mike Sherman drafting B.J. Sander in the third round danced in my head. But if there was a punter worthy of being drafted, it was Scott. When a team has as many picks as the Packers had, they can make this type of pick as high as round five.
Scott was the nation's top punter at Alabama and had an incredible rate of pinning opponents inside their own 20-yard line and had few touchbacks. Scott's draft position means bye-bye to Justin Vogel. Vogel may start camp to provide some competition, but the Packers aren't carrying two punters. Scott can also kick off, yet another reason why he gets the nod over Vogel.
Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Wide Receiver/Punt Gunner
Valdes-Scantling has been touted as a replacement to cult hero Jeff Janis. Janis made most of his living as a top gunner on punt coverage and the Packers hope MVS can fill that void. His speed makes him an immediate asset on special teams.
He'll get some reps at receiver but would figure to be at the bottom of that depth chart. Still, his arrival could mean an uphill battle for Geronimo Allison to stick on the roster with five spots seemingly taken by Adams, Randall Cobb, Clark, Moore and rookie Equanimeous St. Brown.
Equanimeous St. Brown, Wide Receiver
St. Brown slid all the way into the sixth round and was too much value for the Packers to pass on. St. Brown was projected as high as the second round by some. He's 6'5" and spent time with new Packers quarterback DeShone Kizer at Notre Dame.
With his size and ability, it would seem that St. Brown has a good chance of sticking on the final roster. As mentioned earlier, this could be another reason Allison faces tough competition to keep his roster spot, simply based on the numbers game.
The Packers could keep seven receivers, given that they have only three tight ends on the current roster, but that is far from a given.
Hunter Bradley, Long Snapper
Plain and simple, Bradley was selected to finally solve the long snapper position for the Packers. Taybor Pepper held down that role last year until Brett Goode returned. Neither were immediately brought back and the Packers have to prefer to inject some youth to the snapper spot and hope that Bradley is their long-term guy there.
Let the discussions and hype begin as these players join the team for spring mini camps and training camp this summer.
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Jason is a freelance writer on staff since 2012 and also co-hosts Cheesehead TV Live, Pulse of the Pack and Pack A Day podcasts. You can follow him on Twitter here
Comments (137)
NickPerry
April 30, 2018 at 06:28 am
I think Davis is the one who needs to be looking over his shoulder, at least more so than Allison. Clearly the Packers thought they needed speed, speed, and more speed at the WR position as well as size, they did an excellent job doing that.
Of the veteran CB's currently on the roster I'd imagine House and Rollins to be the ones most likely to be out. Brown and Walters are probably in trouble too since the Packers seem to like Pipkins.
Kind of feel sorry for Vogel. He was bad last season but he's no JK Scott. Scotts punting style is OLD School...One step and kick while never leaving the ground. The leg muscles in the back of my legs twitch every time I see that kid kick, talk about extension...ouch!
I also wonder if maybe Moore or St. Brown might have more a more productive season than most Packers rookie WR have in the recent past. I get the whole trust thing they have to have with 12, but with MM and now Philbin back and taking the "Scrub Brush" to the play book maybe there will be more opportunities. One of them NEEDS to stick out this year.
Donster
April 30, 2018 at 06:46 am
Totally agree with you Nick. I would add Demetri Goodson to that list of players that will be out the door.
jeremyjjbrown
April 30, 2018 at 11:59 am
I expect that will comes down to special teams needs.
CJBauckham
April 30, 2018 at 06:47 am
I agree; Davis and Clark both need to bring it at camp this year
RCPackerFan
April 30, 2018 at 07:19 am
I think Davis has to have a huge training camp and preseason. He is entering his 3rd year. He has to make his mark on offense to make it IMO.
I think Allison needs to step his game up also. Moore could push him for playing time if he learns the offense. With Clark, Yancey looking to improve from their rookie years and earn playing time. Add in MVS and ESB they could push most of the WR's also.
The WR battle this preseason will be fun to watch.
I think unless Williams really drops off, he will be one of the starting 3 CB's. I think they will have King, Williams and Alexander. Jackson will be the 4th if he is ready. That would mean House, Rollins, Pipkins, Hawkins, Brown, Waters and the UDFA's battling for the 5th and 6th spots.
I do wonder if they may try to move Rollins to Safety. I think he would make a good free safety.
You bring up an excellent point about the new offense with coaches and scheme. Do they change things to allow players to use their talents more? Could guys like MVS and ESB come in and have a role right away with their size/speed?
MVS is a 6'4 WR that runs a 4.37 40. He is FAST! Could they find a way to use that?
Its going to be fun to watch!
flackcatcher
April 30, 2018 at 07:58 am
RC, Packers have said that they are moving Rollins to the slot, which means he will have to play SS in addition to CB. In a passing league being able to play more than one position helps to save a roster spot. Packers seem to still like him, injuries or not. Still, with a new coach you have to assume that he, like most of the 2-3 years is on the bubble.
RCPackerFan
April 30, 2018 at 08:47 am
I assumed Rollins would be a slot CB. That is ideally where he would play as a CB. I haven't seen them say that though. Not saying they didn't say it, I just haven't seen it.
Thats why though I thought they would maybe try him at Safety. Also with his achilles injury, they may want to do that.
I completely agree about being able to play more then one position. I could see them wanting to see if Rollins could be play a Micah Hyde type of role.
I personally am not going to give up on him. He only played 1 year of college football, had a really good rookie year followed up by 2 injury riddled years. He now is getting a new defensive scheme.
His NFL career is eerily similar to Casey Hayward. Hayward really thrived after switching defensive schemes. Perhaps a new scheme for Rollins will do the same for him.
I really like our CB room right now.
flackcatcher
April 30, 2018 at 10:01 am
Both Whitt and Perry really liked Rollins as a player and a person. McCarthy has spoken very highly of Rollins. The Packers want him to succeed. His new coach does give him a fresh start, but he on a level field with players like Brice and Evans. When healthy Rollins is a superior DB for this team. Maybe this will be the year when Rollins, and the rest of the DB group stays healthy. (One can hope....)
RCPackerFan
April 30, 2018 at 11:06 am
I really think a fresh start with a new scheme would help him a lot. My biggest concern is the Achilles injury.
I am excited to see our DB group.
Minniman
April 30, 2018 at 05:01 pm
Good points all round. In addition, I've mentioned previously (and I may be off the mark), but it looks like the Packers have a good ability to identify DB talent, so there's every reason to believe that Rollins as a bit part player will be a good contributor for the Packers in their yet to be unveiled defensive scheme........ as long as his injury has healed.
Coldworld
April 30, 2018 at 04:06 pm
In my view, Rollins is was and always should have been a safety. If he makes the team it will be behind Jones at strong safety.
Injuries aside, I think that it is well demonstrated that he is not suited physically to CB. He has shown a willingness to tackle and is better with the ball in front of him.
Chuck Farley
April 30, 2018 at 06:24 pm
Just who are we saving all these roster spots. unless I'm wrong we get 53 at game time. Wver heard of 'jack of all trades, master at none'. packers have a team full of them. Have to be able to play multiple positions. These guys are mostly dumber than rocks and can play one position at best. Harvard grads they aint.
Community Guy
April 30, 2018 at 12:36 pm
i heard speculation that Marquez Valdes-Scantling (i enjoy saying his whole name) could compete for Janis' old gunner position.. i doubt Valdes-Scantling can be as effective as Janis was; however, he may be the best gunner candidate on the roster. i understand that one reason that Scott got drafted so high was because of his hang-time abilities. assuming Scott is as the Packers envision, the team's need for a good gunner should be less this season.
Coldworld
April 30, 2018 at 04:12 pm
Because he is fast and ran limited routes he is Janis? Seems lazy analysis. He has Janis’ speed but appears tho have much more natural hands. I presume Gutekunst thought so too since they picked him before St Brown.
If McCarthy is willing to use him/ scheme deep plays, this is a receiver type that could logically contribute earlier than a player required to run more diverse route trees.
flackcatcher
April 30, 2018 at 07:49 am
I am reserving judgement at this point on the players, until I see how the Packers have adapted to the new offense and defensive schemes. Also, the Packers are not done with free agent signings. Most I expect, if not all will be UDFA filling out the bottom of the roster or PS for future development. That bodes ill for most 2-3 year player, especially those in the defensive backfield. I do agree with you Nick on WR, but I think that it could apply to whoever is on the 53 if the Packers return to a more 'classic west coast scheme'. We'll see.
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 08:28 am
I'm with you: we've still got Dom glasses on (someone else wrote that yesterday and I'm shamelessly stealing it) and it's a Mike Pettine world. We have no real clue what that looks like with this personnel, yet.
I think they'll make a signing or two, as well, which could completely change the complexion of some facets of the roster. Wouldn't take a high-end guy to do that, either.
I honestly don't see huge changes to the offense in 2018, but based on how they handled the offseason, making sure that Graham is fully incorporated early is a must and using their backfield weapons more creatively seem to be great tweaks.
flackcatcher
April 30, 2018 at 09:42 am
Yeah, it really is a bunch of unknowns. Going to drive some of us nuts till training camp starts. (Dom glasses.....Heh Heh Heh.......0:)
TKWorldWide
April 30, 2018 at 09:45 am
Oddly, my nickname in college was “Great Tweeks”.
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 09:52 am
It's been a long time since I've had "great weeks"...
TKWorldWide
April 30, 2018 at 10:20 am
Also, in my mid 40’s, I added some “gray tweaks” to my hairstyle.
Which is not really a style at all.
TKWorldWide
April 30, 2018 at 10:09 am
I guess I was a very early precursor to Giannis “the Greek Freak”, as it were.
Just without the basketball skillz.
(And that’s “skillz” with a “z” in an attempt to relate to today’s hip hop generation. I am also wearing my ballcap sideways, yo.)
Andrew Lloyd Peth
April 30, 2018 at 10:23 am
Sorry to disagree, but I think Allison is gone.
Davis is by far and away our best returner, and I THINK WE'D BE INSANE TO EXPOSE OUR TOP PICK--ALEXANDER--TO THAT ROLE. INNNNNSANE!
We have zero depth at TE, so look for 6 WR's to stick. Cobb seems likely to return, but at $10 million with fragile health and inconsistent performance, he's no lock.
Clark is a wild card. He showed strong potential with lots of project risk, so the development he shows in camp will be critical.
With the current roster makeup, I give Allison a 20% chance of staying. He's simply up against a group of vastly superior athletes. He provides almost no special teams value. He's a longshot, in my view.
TKWorldWide
April 30, 2018 at 10:38 am
You can disagree all you want, amigo, and you’ve done an admirable job explaining your stance. Good post.
The ones that I don’t tolerate well are the ones in which defensiveness takes over and insults blot out the sun like the arrows in the movie 300.
Lare
April 30, 2018 at 01:06 pm
All the new WRs need to get into the playbook and learn it front to back. WRs that run a wrong route mean a turnover and Rodgers will not throw to them anymore until they know the right route.
This will also be a learning curve for Rodgers to get timing with the new WRs, he hasn't thrown to anyone fast in quite a while.
Coldworld
April 30, 2018 at 06:22 pm
I tend to agree that Alison is up against it physically. However, I think he makes it because of his experience and trust.
I also think that the new receivers are likely to need time or to run only certain types of plays initially.
That means that, assuming no injuries, Adams and Cobb plus one other likely start in most common set. That leaves 5 spaces if we keep 7 recievers.
Assume we keep all draft picks. That leaves space for two existing receivers not named Cobb and Adams.
Based upon that, I think Davis is likely gone. Thus we will have to find a new returner. I don’t know much about Yancey, but he seems to be an alternate to one of the three new draftees.
Ignoring the practice squad and futures guys (just guessing) that leaves two receivers: Allison and Clark. The first because he knows the route trees and has performed and the second for potential.
If we have no other return options, Davis might make it: there is no way a likely starter (at slot) as a rookie is going to be burdened with that on top of learning his position. And as noted, the risk would be absurd. If Davis stays my guess is Clark is on the PS. Either way, Allison would be the one surviving.
croatpackfan
May 01, 2018 at 06:59 am
I do not understand why so many people here do not like Trevor Davis. He catch some punts inside 10 yards. When you look statistically there is more chance that ball will bounce back, or on either side, or in air than dorectly to the end zone (4:1). It become more complicated when you include punters technique and shape of the ball.
Also, we do not know if he is told to catch the ball if he can... I believe it is better to start at 5 yard line than at 1 yard (or 0.5 yard) line...
That one deep throw Davis did not catch nor reach for it. It was explained (on "packers.com") that he did not saw the ball due to light behind the ball and which made him blind...
Third, Aaron was talking very affirmative at the end of the training camp last season. He might showed us that if Aaron stayed healthy...
Than, Trevor Davis had the best PR average for long time for Packers and, I think, all time best KR average.
Herb Waters was proclaimed new Tramon Williams. That proclamation made Joe Whitt. Sorry, but I believe more to Joe Whitt than any Packers fan. So, Herb may be cut, but that would be on his mistake(s)...
I think Geronimo Allison and Yancey is in the largest jeopardy to be cut, still Yancey, I believe has PS eligibility...
John Ramble Kirk
April 30, 2018 at 06:50 am
Jason...Typo in Moore's synopsis. You have Vandy where Missouri should be.
Oh, and how could you forget Donnerson? He cut already? :)
jasonperone
April 30, 2018 at 08:06 am
Missou added. Donnerson, I mentioned in the beginning as one I don’t think is on this year’s roster. Same with Looney. I didn’t write them into this one
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 02:14 pm
I hope he does!
holmesmd
April 30, 2018 at 05:23 pm
Really? Why not? Geez, it would nice to let guys at least have a shot in camp before you condemn them to being released!
PackEyedOptimist
April 30, 2018 at 06:53 am
If even ONE of the three selected WRs becomes the #3 or #4 receiver, I'd call it a success. The odds seem decent for that. I have no problem with the punter and snapper provided they make the team--every time you upgrade a starting position it is a win. I think the Packers simply didn't believe any of the kids available to draft were any better than the ones already on the roster. An OLB candidate might be the "best player available," but if they feel pretty certain he is not better --or at least POTENTIALLY better--than the players already on the roster, then it would be foolish to take them. Look at the three WRs they took: none of them are currently better than the guys on the roster, but ALL of them are POTENTIALLY better than Davis/Allison/Clark. On the other hand, I didn't see pass rushers who seemed even potentially better than Biegl.
RCPackerFan
April 30, 2018 at 07:08 am
Getting Jaire Alexander plus a first round next year made Gutekunst first draft day moves really, really good. Outside of maybe Chubb was there anyone in this draft worth more then Alexander plus a 1st round pick next year? I don't think so.
Alexander should step in right away and provide a boost to the defense.
But not only Alexander, getting Josh Jackson in the 2nd round could be one of the bigger steals in the draft. Most people had Jackson in the 15-30 range of prospects.
With the 2 CB's they added 2 playmakers. Guys who can turn a game around. They have great ball skills. With King, Alexander, Jackson, they may finally have the CB's of the future.
Burks, I didn't know much about until they drafted him. But what I have seen I like. He brings a ton of speed, and smarts to the position. While I'm not penciling him in as the starter or anything, my hope is that he can become the Nickel or Dime LB, and use his speed to help cover in the passing game. At the very least be in a rotation with Ryan.
The trio of WR's at the very least will come in and bring a lot of competition to the current group of players. Guys like Yancey, Davis, Allison, Clark all have to step up their games if they want to stay.
-Moore likely will make the 53 based on draft position unless he flops.
-MVS is blazing fast and has really good size. If he can learn the position he could possibly be a guy used in a special way on offense.
-ESB is huge. A lot of scouts had him in the 2nd - 4th round range, and the Packers got him in the 6th round. At that point in the draft why not take a chance on a guy who is 6'5 and runs 4.48 40. He could end up being a huge steal of the draft. But he will have a huge battle to make the 53.
I'm not going to lie. I am drooling a bit at the thought of having Adams, Cobb, Graham, Clark and ESB in a redzone set. 3 guys being 6'5+, Adams and Cobb are matchup nightmares in the redzone. Good luck teams.
JK Scott was the first player that I said WTF to. I thought Vogel was good and we had our punter for years. But seeing Scott and remembering who he was I think it was a good pick. In the 5th round or later if you can add a playmaker/game changer/field tilting type of player you have to take him regardless of position. Scott is one of those guys. He can change field position with one kick. Also he has really good placement.
Bradley will hopefully be our next LS for the next 10 years. As we have learned its a skill that is not appreciated until you have someone that isn't very good. Going through 3 of them last year they learned they needed to invest into the position.
Looney and Donnerson we will see. Maybe they will surprise all of us and earn roles. Hopefully Looney can come in and at the very least push other guys ahead of him. Donnerson maybe could earn a special teams role. Mostly likely their best spot will be the practice squad.
Overall, I'm really happy with the draft. Getting Alexander plus a first round pick next year in our first round was a tremendous move. Mike Mayock projected them to get Alexander at 14. They moved down 4 spots got Alexander and a first round pick next year. Absolutely love that!
I would have liked to have seen them get and OLB. But that didn't happen. They got 2 CB's that most thought were 1st round picks.
They will have Biegel who basically was a redshirt rookie last year.
Now I can't wait to see them come training camp!
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 08:55 am
I posted this after they took Moore on Saturday and have become more convinced of it: I think Moore is most likely to make a long-term impact as a slot WR for the Packers. He's not the smaller jitterbug type of slot, but the bigger, stronger, quick but not fast kind of slot...a la Jordan Matthews.
I always cringe when a team drafts a punter, especially when they have a serviceable one on the roster. I hope this kid can translate what he did in college to the pros...I have flashbacks to Brett Conway (admittedly not a punter). Still, there were some interesting prospects including developmental edge players (Duke Ejiofor, Kylie Fitts, as examples) on the board at that point. Sure, the Raiders followed the Packers by taking a punter, but I doubt that Kelly was really their plan A and the kid they took was a panic pick.
fthisJack
April 30, 2018 at 10:17 am
your right...i think the Raiders wanted Scott and when the Pack took him they went for second best.
yesterday i finally came off the ledge after passing on James. i still think James will be and impact guy for the Chargers so i'm hoping we get the same out of Jaire. plus Jaire is a slick punt return guy so i guess it worked out well. i'll be rooting for whomever plays NO every game next year. maybe NO will have a big drop off and we can get back in the top ten with their pick!
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 10:34 am
I have absolutely no idea why I wrote "kelly" in that spot...
Gettin' old.
RCPackerFan
April 30, 2018 at 10:53 am
I do think part of the reason that they took him there was because they knew the Raiders would take him.
Obviously the Packers felt he wouldn't last to their next pick and thought highly of him to draft him there.
James will be a good player, imo. I don't doubt that. I would have been happy taking him at 14, especially if I had known we would get Jackson at 45. But remember a few things with it. Packers have Clinton-Dix, Josh Jones, Brice at Safety. They didn't have the depth at CB, and Alexander was Mayocks #1 CB. Have to think the Packers felt the same.
Rather then taking James they got Alexander and a 1st round pick. To me that is a no brainer.
I completely agree that I'm rooting against NO all year.
RCPackerFan
April 30, 2018 at 10:35 am
Well the one thing that the Packers like to do is to cross train their WR's. So they won't just play one role. I think that will be the case with Moore. He will play outside and inside. You maybe right though that he will be better in the slow. Time will tell.
I honestly wanted to go all Vince Lombardi and ask what the hell is going on here. But after I looked at it differently and actually looked at the punter they drafted, I changed my view on it. Scott literally can change the field position with one kick. He also can kick off which should help Crosby prolong his career. That is assuming he can do in the pros what he did in college.
After getting past the drafting a punter, I looked at it, if they can get a player in the 5th round or later that can change field position or make a difference in the game, its worth the pick. Most position players 5th round or after don't make differences in games. There are points in game that a single punt can flip the field position battle. A punter can be a weapon, also can really help the defense out. JK Scott is a guy that can be that type of player.
I disagree with you on the panic pick part. If you watched the draft live their pick was in almost immediately after the team before them picked. They knew what they were doing.
This is probably one of his best punts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1WQvgrY25M
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 10:46 am
Sorry, I meant it wasn't a panic pick on the part of the Raiders. Lousy parallel structure in my writing...
"You maybe right though that he will be better in the slow."
Freudian slip, there, RC?
RCPackerFan
April 30, 2018 at 10:56 am
oh gotcha. That makes sense. I didn't follow you on it. No worries.
lol, that is definitely a typo.
Meant slot...
worztik
April 30, 2018 at 11:32 am
I thought you meant snow...
Community Guy
April 30, 2018 at 12:53 pm
i completely hear you dobber.. i enjoyed watching Ejifor's Wake Forrest tape and, with some good coaching, i think Ejifor has a real chance to become a starter.. i would have enjoyed his addition to the Packers' roster. and, Fitts is now with the Bears.. it is likely we will see him in inter-divisional action.
re: Scott being picked: i thought Vogel did well for the Packers; however, Vogel had Janis as his gunner.. the Packers excellent coverage may have compensated for some of Vogel's foibles. sans Janis, Scott's outstanding hang time abilities may be invaluable to the Packers.
baldski
May 01, 2018 at 01:17 am
I think Scott could become a weapon ala Ray Guy of the Raiders.
TKWorldWide
April 30, 2018 at 10:42 am
RC: Richland Center??
RCPackerFan
April 30, 2018 at 10:54 am
lol.
Maybe?
Wow. Impressive TK.
you from the area?
TKWorldWide
April 30, 2018 at 11:23 am
I hail from SE WI, but spend quite a bit of time touring the state on my hog. I remember going through RC a few summers ago and really liked the cut of its jib. Nice looking community!
RCPackerFan
April 30, 2018 at 12:12 pm
yeah, the Terrain in the area is awesome!
I know a lot of people out of the area come to our area to ride. Most love the area for it. The Hills.
I hope you make it back again someday!
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 12:51 pm
Really TK? What part?
TKWorldWide
April 30, 2018 at 01:28 pm
Grafton/Port Washington
It gets a little blurry
Are you from our fair state as well??
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 01:33 pm
East Troy/Alpine Valley
TKWorldWide
April 30, 2018 at 01:44 pm
Clearly, WI is overflowing with talent!
I sort of remember seeing Guns N Roses at Alpine years ago...
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 02:13 pm
I was working that concert...northeast corner of the seating area. Some dude in the lawn kept flickin' cigarette butts at me. Wasn't you, was it?
TKWorldWide
April 30, 2018 at 02:22 pm
Heck no. Not a smoker. I choose to pollute my temple in less permanent ways.
Hypocrisy.
TKWorldWide
April 30, 2018 at 02:23 pm
About 1990 or 91??
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 06:38 pm
It was the opener of the 91 season, I think. MTV was there and everything!
Oppy
May 01, 2018 at 01:48 am
I installed fall protection systems up on the rigger's grid above the stage at Alpine Valley roughly 20 years ago. There were some mean momma raccoons living up there. Lol.
dobber
May 01, 2018 at 05:01 am
You probably worked with my oldest brother...at the time he was head of maintenance.
Oppy
May 01, 2018 at 10:47 am
Small world, Dobber!
From what I remember (and be warned, my memory is questionable!) our direct business contact was a short, stout, older (well, to me at the the time) woman with a HUGE personality. I believe she referred to herself as "The stage mother". lol. Had some pretty interesting stories to tell about some of the acts that came through.
I'm sure we must have worked with riggers as well, but that woman with the larger-than-life personality (and the mouth of a sailor) is my main memory from the job.
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 06:39 pm
My brother used to live there...he's in Elkhart Lake, now.
TKWorldWide
May 01, 2018 at 04:07 pm
Sheboygan was my home for my first 18 years!
Coldworld
April 30, 2018 at 06:40 pm
Excitement I share!
One point that I think is generally assumed as truth but appears wholly unsupported by anything based on what I can find is the assumption that MVS is a longer shot to contribute than St Brown. (This seems pervasive in threads and in writing-see the comparatives piece that simply states MVS = Janis, nothing more, while identifying similar players to all other non-special team picks.
It seems, because he has similar measurables, that we have all essentially identified MVS as effectively a Janis clone. In fact all the scouting I can find is that he is a more tested catcher and player and is believed closer to NFL readiness than St Brown.
He is not Janis and also is most likely not yet NFL ready, but he may be ready to contribute before St Brown, particularly if we are willing to build stretch routes into some of our plays.
This view would at least tend to be reinforced by the apparent belief of the Packers in picking him well before St Brown.
Minniman
April 30, 2018 at 08:15 pm
My proverbial cup is half full on this draft crop too - mainly from the standpoint that the stated coaching philosophy is to play people at their strengths.
i think that there is enough starters and vets at most positions (injury excepting) to both not expose the rookies too early and to mentor them as to how pros conduct themselves - I especially hope that Tramon Williams' work ethic rubs off on the DB's.
To a lesser degree I also believe that despite having seen his best, most dynamic years that Randall Cobb can clue the WR rookies into what AR expects of them.
If I'm wrong... then I'll need to lower my dose of Packers Kool-Aid in future!
Ryan Graham
April 30, 2018 at 07:19 am
I'm not all that crazy about the idea of Alexabder returning punts and kicks so I hope that's not the intention. On paper that is what it looks like though if Trevor Davis continues with his fair catch and kick catching issues. I'm not sure Brown or House are in their plans next year. Although it would be nice to keep as many corners as possible.
I'm very interested to see what all comes of the wide reciever company, Dupre is already out from last year I wonder if Yancey is next, because it looks to me like all three of these guys have a seat on the roster already.
I dont want to call JK Scott a wasted pick, but I have to think he wasn't the first choice there or that they were trying to trade up some of those later round picks and couldn't get it done. Just speculating on my part.
Cubbygold
April 30, 2018 at 08:35 am
This was going to be my comment but you beat me to it. Given the importance of Alexander to this defense, I'm not a huge fan of putting him in the most vulnerable spot in the game. Sure he may be dynamic and explosive, but to me I'm fine with just having a smart guy back there that doesn't drop the ball and doesn't take fair catches inside the 10. If there's a special teams guy that can manage that, I'm voting for that guy to take on those duties.
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 09:01 am
Dupre is the case-in-point for not getting too hyped up about St. Brown. Many of us said that if you swapped him and Yancey at their draft positions, he would've still been a solid pick. Neither made the 53. Sometimes great value doesn't translate to a roster spot.
I think all three of these WR could make the 53 because the WR depth ahead of them is no great shakes unless they've made tremendous strides in the offseason. The departure of Janis could open the door for Davis to stick...he was playing gunner on punt teams later in the season last year and his ability to return punts (which several players on the roster can do) keeps others off ST.
Finwiz
April 30, 2018 at 09:59 am
I think the upper end of this draft was very good, but these receivers.....I'm not terribly impressed with any of them to be honest.
All of them have flaws to varying degree's. I'm not sure any of them are going to be better than Dupree , Yancy or Allison. They're probably looking for one keeper out of the 3, and I'd say they'll be lucky to find one.
Community Guy
April 30, 2018 at 01:04 pm
take your time in evaluating the receivers and remember that the returning guys will also need to learn a new playbook which will even the competition a bit. as the Packers certainly do, i consider size. the Packers picked a tall guy and two sky-scrapers.. separation can be had through good route-running, speed and height.. the 2018 guys should all be able to separate.
Minniman
April 30, 2018 at 08:21 pm
depending on how Lance Kendricks pans out, I wonder if they view one of the sky-scraper WR's as the de facto TE-lite backstop for Jimmy G?
I bleed green more
April 30, 2018 at 10:50 am
The fair catch at the 5 or 10 drove me nuts. Let it go what's an extra yard going to do there.
TKWorldWide
April 30, 2018 at 01:43 pm
From my illustrious high school football career re: being a punt returner:
1. Stand at the ten
2. If the ball goes over your head, let it go. It’ll probably be a touchback.
How hard can that be??
Also, don’t joke about explosives in an airport.
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 06:41 pm
"Also, don’t joke about explosives in an airport."
They taught you that in HS?
TKWorldWide
April 30, 2018 at 08:20 pm
Oh, no, that was part of the “how hard can that be?” section.
Oppy
May 01, 2018 at 01:55 am
a few weeks ago the "fielding it inside the 10" thing came up.
I found an article where some guy crunched all the numbers from a season or two of NFL football, and the numbers actually strongly support a case for either returning or fair-catching punts coming down inside the ten but outside the 5. An alarming percentage of balls left to ground inside that range actually end up downed or rolling OOB. Only 22% of those balls reach the end zone. Believe it or not.
https://thebiglead.com/2015/11/18/fielding-punts-inside-the-10-in-the-nf...
Thegreatreynoldo
May 01, 2018 at 02:43 am
If we hadn't drafted a Punter and Long Snapper, instead waiting for UDFA to kick in, the likelihood is that some of these late round picks would get cut in the hope of getting them to the PS. I don't see the point in drafting a bunch of players for other teams to poach at the cut-down to 53, especially if one thinks the Punter and LS are upgrades.
Packer_Fan
April 30, 2018 at 07:47 am
So far I like the draft too. CB was my biggest worry and BG nailed it. Bringing in two competitive picks. Don't get me wrong, Williams will be starting, but the Pack should have 3 or 4 strong CB's. Goodson, Waters, Hawkins and Pipkins, one or two need to step up otherwise they will be gone. Yeah, I think Davis is gone too. But the draft picks have a long way to go. BG might want to sweep the FA market for WR.
There still is a big question regarding the OL. How well will Murphy, Patrick, Lucas and Spriggs develop. With Madison, we need two to play at starter level with one or two good backups. For all will be needed over the length of the season. Otherwise, BG needs to sweep the FA market. Like hold on the Evans decision until training camp to see who gets hurt. Evans could step in quickly since he knows the system.
I like the picking of the punter and LS. Great competition to upgrade those positions. It would be great to have a punter at the goal line getting a punt of 60 yards and 5 second hang time with a resulting fair catch. Flips the field. We will see how he does.
Regarding edge rusher, the seventh round pick is a project. Perhaps BG can still sweep the FA market and get some help. However, I still remember the Falcon games of the QB throwing in rhythm with little chance pressure getting to him and having the receivers open. Hopefully that won't happen this year and the defense forces some stops. Rushing the passer and pass defense go hand in hand. They can each help eachother.
Go Pack!
Cubbygold
April 30, 2018 at 08:38 am
Agree with everything you've said except the Evans piece. Depending on Evans contract demands, I'm in favor of grabbing him quickly. He did a better than expected job last year and the downside of him being signed by another team is just too great.
mrtundra
April 30, 2018 at 07:59 am
I've heard talk that Michael Clark may convert to TE, if he can gain some weight. I don't look for the Pack to cut him loose just yet.
stockholder
April 30, 2018 at 08:18 am
your talking about another guy without a position. It's time to move on. Super-bowl teams don't wait on players. A-Rod won't throw to him . Cut!
kevgk
April 30, 2018 at 08:33 am
Not likely, he doesn't have a TE frame and will never learn to block
Cubbygold
April 30, 2018 at 08:39 am
Yeah this would be the key. GB already has an athletic TE that can't block. If they're keeping other TEs on the roster, they better provide something that Graham doesn't.
RCPackerFan
April 30, 2018 at 09:10 am
The talk is from fans asking about it.
Clark is a 217 lbs, and thin. He isn't a TE, and won't ever be. Especially with the limited background of playing football.
I still like Clark and thinks he has a high upside. So I wouldn't count him out.
Community Guy
April 30, 2018 at 01:13 pm
that could be awesome. i was thinking that the Packers might draft the Iowa State WR Allen Lazard with the idea that he could convert to TE (he signed as an UDFA with Jacksonville).. maybe they felt Clark would be their WR to TE convert.
mrtundra
April 30, 2018 at 08:05 am
Didn't the League change the rules on Kick offs for this upcoming season? In an effort to reduce the risk of head trauma didn't the League say something about placing the ball on the 25 yard line to start the next series after the opponent scores?
kevgk
April 30, 2018 at 08:34 am
no actual changes were made, it is discussion about potential future changes
stockholder
April 30, 2018 at 08:25 am
If the 2nd round pick came down to Landry or Jackson. I say Jackson still would have been the pick. The packers would have ended up taking another db. And it more than likely would have been Cruishank later. Who they brought in. If Landry was a Target they would have went up and got him.
SpudRapids
April 30, 2018 at 12:46 pm
Agreed, I think Landry dropped because an enormous health concern. What surprised me was the lack of coverage of it. He may be a top 10 talent but I think once the team Doc's got their hands on him they must of found something e.g. a knee without stability. Bad knees and edge rushers are a bad combo.
Coldworld
April 30, 2018 at 06:49 pm
Despite what Bennett said, it is no secret that the Packers medical staff is among the least likely to approve a player with a serious health condition.
In the long term that is probably much the best for the players and the game. Landry has a condition that over optimism could lead not just to a short career (remember Terrence Murphy, for whom I believe the career was the sole casualty) but serious life impairment.
hodge555
April 30, 2018 at 05:53 pm
The rumour (tweeted from Tom Pellisero of NFL.com) is that Landry has knee and back issues so I can see why the Pack would avoid selecting an injured player. The Pack has enough problems with injuries as it is.
OldTimer
April 30, 2018 at 09:03 am
I would hate to see kick offs eliminated. They just add to much excitement to the game. I wonder if the league has ever considered reducing the number of players on both sides of the ball during kick offs? That might make it even more exciting, and less players on the field might reduce the number of injuries.
4thand1
April 30, 2018 at 09:18 am
Meet our new punter, John Kirk Scott. LOL
John Ramble Kirk
April 30, 2018 at 12:49 pm
I know you want to give me the boot.
4thand1
April 30, 2018 at 01:49 pm
Naw, free country. Spice it up.
carlos
April 30, 2018 at 02:57 pm
JRK, sent a post to you this morning from yesterday on the UDFA article. Check it out if you see this. Go Pack.
4thand1
April 30, 2018 at 09:27 am
No idea what will happen in TC. Between DB's and WR's there must be 20 players so far, that's a lot of competition. The NFL has become a track meet and you have to keep up. IAMGUTE says he welcomes AR's imput and there will be some imput with all these WR's for sure.
Since'61
April 30, 2018 at 09:45 am
We won't know how the roster will be impacted by this draft until after TC at the earliest. I'm hoping for 3 new defensive starters plus a new LS and Punter, plus at least 2, maybe 3 new rotational receivers. I don't know about Looney or Donnerson making the roster but competition is always good.
Overall I think Gute has had a solid first draft as GM. We won't know until the pads come on and the regular season begins to see how much our team has improved. New offensive and defensive schemes will have an impact as well. All speculation, hype and hope until Week 1. Thanks, Since '61
4thand1
April 30, 2018 at 10:11 am
The NFL with all of it's money won't expand the roster? Teams have to keep a long snapper on the 53 keeping another good player off. Injuries affect every team and they talk about safety. I'd like to know how much they profited with the draft spectacle alone. 30 mil viewers on thurs night and a million commercials.
Andrew Lloyd Peth
April 30, 2018 at 10:29 am
If Bulaga is really out till midseason, cut him and save cap space for 2019.
Replacing Davis at returner by exposing our top pick to that role would be very, very unwise.
Is Cobb worth one more year at $10 million on this roster? When healthy, just barely...but he won't stay healthy.
We have no TE depth, so keeping 6 WR's seems a lock.
Finwiz
April 30, 2018 at 02:24 pm
Did we hear in the press that Bulaga is out until mid-season?
Or are we speculating here.
Just wondering if there was news over the weekend that I missed?
Thx
Coldworld
April 30, 2018 at 06:52 pm
Speculation. Team only saying that unsure if he will be ready for camp. Not implausible though given timing, but not a certainty either.
cheesehead1
April 30, 2018 at 11:30 am
Hope Burks turns out. Obviously Gute liked him enough to move up. Does anyone know how his speed/measurables etc. compared to Desmond Bishops?
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 10:42 am
Desmond Bishop (6th round pick, 2007)
http://draftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=56262&draftyear=2007&ge...
6'2", 240 lb, 4.77-40 (Combine)
33 bench
32.5 vert
9'4" broad jump
4.65 short shuttle
7.14 3-cone
Oren Burks
6'3", 233 lb, 4.59-40 (Combine)
18 bench
39.5 vert
10'11" broad jump
4.15 short shuttle
6.82 3-cone
cheesehead1
April 30, 2018 at 10:57 am
Thanks so much, maybe he’ll be a sleeper pick. Should be an exciting Training Camp.
Slim11
April 30, 2018 at 11:18 am
Interesting comparison!
stockholder
April 30, 2018 at 11:36 am
We don't need a guy that looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane. They gave up two picks. He's not taking Ryan's position. He's taking J. Thomas'. This was a Risk pick. There is no way you can compare him to Bishop. He was the second best cover LB by some. Something even Bishop had trouble with. You can hope Brian Urlacker; but in reality, he's a poor man's Vander ESH. If he's as good as Esh, it was a good pick. If he busts, Gute could become Gun shy to trade picks. It's not how many picks you have. It's what you get for them that counts!
SpudRapids
April 30, 2018 at 12:49 pm
If he's the dime linebacker he doesn't need to play like Tarzan. I like this pick because I think he has a chance to really get after running back on swing routes on 3 and long. I hate nothing more than when it's 3rd and 8 and a swing route gets the edge for a first down. Burk can close out and make that tackle.
Coldworld
April 30, 2018 at 06:56 pm
Bishop took years to be good as well. Early on he was completely out of his depth/undisciplined. This guy, if he has football smarts to read plays to go with his coverage skills, will be a new dimension we have not had in a true LB. I think he could be a steal, eventually, if he lives up to expectations.
Bedrock
April 30, 2018 at 11:02 am
Will Jake Ryan be out after this coming season as Perone suggests? Even if Oren turns into the starter, perhaps Ryan would stay in GB. Every player has a price, and he would add value as a knowledgeable backup.
4zone
April 30, 2018 at 12:33 pm
Ryan is affordable depth. He is the kind of guy you want as a cost effective replacement when someone goes down for a game or two, or for a season. We don't get rid of him until we draft or develop someone better. We can't run with just two ILBs even if CM3 can play both positions.
Coldworld
April 30, 2018 at 06:57 pm
We still need run stopping, and Ryan rates higher than Martinez at that and played better in December.
Coldworld
April 30, 2018 at 06:58 pm
Duplicate, deleted
Bedrock
April 30, 2018 at 11:12 am
Check out Moore compared to Greg Jennings
Jennings listed first in each.
Height: 5'11" to 6'3"
Weight: 197 to 207
40: 4.46 to 4.49
20: 2.62 to 2.60
10: 1.56 to 1.64
Vertical: 36.5 to 38
Broad: 9'9" to 10'0"
Shuttle: 4.16 to 4.04
3 cone: 6.68 to 6.56
The measurables are there! Let's hope he puts it together.
stockholder
April 30, 2018 at 11:39 am
I saw 4.6 40. Where did you get the 4.49 from?
Bedrock
April 30, 2018 at 12:42 pm
He ran that at his pro day. It was referenced by scouts as verification of the time they saw on film.
Coldworld
April 30, 2018 at 06:59 pm
I’ve heard some chatter that that was slower than expected too.
Coldworld
April 30, 2018 at 06:59 pm
I’ve heard some chatter that that was slower than expected too.
stockholder
April 30, 2018 at 08:37 pm
You are correct . Never saw it. The packers are going after the taller WR. Remember Herman Moore? Even megatron was tall. Both lost speed. Moore was part of the run and shoot. Comparing the Wrs too the WRS of the 64 champion packers. Tall is the best thing the packers could get back too.
Bear
April 30, 2018 at 08:27 pm
Wasn’t excited about the pick! Watching various tapes he does very well at separating from the DB.
I think he will see more playing time then I first thought.
cheesehead1
April 30, 2018 at 11:29 am
What do you think Ty Montgomery’s role will be this season? I’ve always liked him and his versatility but his injury history is a big concern. With all these new receivers and running backs, maybe he could possibly be trade bait? Just a thought. Go Pack.
stockholder
April 30, 2018 at 11:43 am
Good Comment. He wants to get bigger and stay Healthy. He also learned how to block/run more than Clark. If he does. I wouldn't put it past MM to line him up at TE. The making of Shannon Sharpe ?
worztik
April 30, 2018 at 11:58 am
I’m wondering, how much say in which receivers we end up keeping will ARod actually have? He doesn’t need to really say anything, he can just choose not to throw to them and that says volumes. I don’t know what Gute’s feelings are, obviously, regarding Cobby. Personally, I’d get rid of his salary hit in any way possible... probably an outright release. Is he worth 10 million? NO! How much is he worth to keep ARod’s attitude positive? Who knows? I like the measurables of the receivers we drafted and I’m looking for great things from them! In general, the high point of the draft for me was a punter having his way with the Cowgirl faithful!!! Can you say awesome??? Just sayin’...
4zone
April 30, 2018 at 12:29 pm
He can vote with his choice of targets. And Cobb is extremely valuable to this team. I can't understand how people don't think he is any good anymore. You must not watch the same games I do. He is now the voice of experience in the WR room and his knowledge of the system is invaluable. He may not be worth $10 Mil anymore, but his value should not be taken lightly.
worztik
April 30, 2018 at 01:35 pm
I think that’s what I said...
worztik
April 30, 2018 at 01:41 pm
4skin... I closely and intently watch the games the same as you do!!! I guess our value systems are different as I’ve always been conservative when spending money... just sayin’...
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 12:53 pm
Unless they have an immediate need for his salary cap space, I don't see Cobb being someone to get cut. The Packers had two high-cost WR, and they made their choice.
worztik
April 30, 2018 at 01:34 pm
I think they actually had 3, Dob. Adams being the 3rd. So, we still have 2 high priced receivers. I guess it’s just a toss up. If we can afford both, great! I’ve always liked Cobb as an outlet for ARod when protection breaks down. Is that worth 10 mil... we’ll see...
dobber
April 30, 2018 at 02:13 pm
Very true...but two on the last year of their deals.
worztik
April 30, 2018 at 03:33 pm
Yup...
4thand1
April 30, 2018 at 08:58 pm
4skin lmao
4zone
April 30, 2018 at 12:18 pm
I like our depth problems at WR and CB this year. I like what this team could look like 2 years from now. If the BB boys (Biegel and Burk) put the hammer down this year . . . lookout. TE and RT right now are the only 'long term' positions I think need to be adressed still but for now, TE is great without depth, and RT is serviceable at least until Bulaga returns.
On the surface this draft really doesn't excite with a lot of big names, but looking at how they all fit into the big picture is kind of cool. And 2 #1s next year on top of it all can't be overstated.
I Am Gute!
holmesmd
April 30, 2018 at 05:39 pm
I’m not sure how drafting 2 of the top 5 CB’s in one draft doesn’t include “big names”? Huh? Big names are acquired in the first 2 rounds. I think it’s fair to say that Alexander & Jackson fit the bill as it pertains to grade & name recognition.
Chuck Farley
April 30, 2018 at 06:40 pm
I rated this draft a c minus but may be changing my mind to a B minus. I just have this theory that if you can take two or three real potential pro bowlers, maybe hall of famers in the draft you killed it.
The bears according to analyst got an a plue. They killed it. Their top three are sure fire ready to light it up players. Not sure of the rest of their draft but three top players are their positions is incredible.
Our two top picks, dont know. Been down this road three years now and they havent panned out.
Coldworld
April 30, 2018 at 07:22 pm
Lol. If you take that kind of comment seriously the day after the draft you will be heading for a life of constant disillusionment.
4thand1
April 30, 2018 at 09:00 pm
You forgot to mention thebearsstillsuck. They draft high every year so they should get blue chip players.
Rudedawg67
May 01, 2018 at 05:42 pm
I liked our draft. We have the enough talent at the DB position to be a top 5 defense if we can pressure on the QB. No pressure means the defense will finish ranked between 12 and 15. Just flashing back to last year I remember when a team had 3rd and 10 they had us right where they wanted us. Rarely was there any pressure on a QB in a passing situation. I hope a new defensive scheme will take care of that. When guys like Casey Hayward flourish in another system you can see just how feckless Dom Capers system was. Jackson should start over Rollins. He is a better athlete and is more instinctive. Since everyone is learning a new defensive scheme Rollins doesn’t have any advantage there.
On offense I like the fact taller receivers were taken. A-Rod will have a bigger target to throw to even when the receiver doesn’t get separation. It seems like opposing corners were always in our hip pocket last year. That what happens when most of your receiving corp post above 4.5 in the 40 and alot of DBs run a sub 4.5.
PAPackerbacker
April 30, 2018 at 10:16 pm
There's already been an impact on the roster from the draft. Packers released Joe Callahan. I would have thought it would have been Hundley instead. Callahan was never given a chance to prove himself last year.
croatpackfan
May 01, 2018 at 07:03 am
You mean Callahan was never given a chance to prove himself last year to us, fans?
I believe Coaches and Personnel Department have enough information regarding Joie Callahan...
Thegreatreynoldo
May 01, 2018 at 02:58 am
Tramon Williams has $4.75M guaranteed at signing. Short of being obviously over the hill and/or atrocious, I would expect him to be a lock for this roster.
croatpackfan
May 01, 2018 at 07:01 am
Jasone, Joe Thomas is Dallas Cowboy. He is not on the Packers roster from, I believe, before FA...
C'mon guy, just check http://www.packers.com/team/roster.html
Sorry...