Tagging Davante Adams Is Really Hard Without Cap Relief From Rodgers

Laying the proper groundwork to tag Adams will be hard. 

The Green Bay Packers will have a very hard time tagging Davante Adams if they cannot reach a long-term contract with him by the deadline.  That is at least if the team cannot wring $15 to $20 million in cap relief from Aaron Rodgers prior to the start of the new league year because he wants to be traded or he retires.  It would still be possible, but it would get extremely tight, and a lot would have to go well.  Let's briefly discuss the options and the rules associated with the options.

The Packers have to decide whether to tag Adams by Tuesday, March 8.  They can use an exclusive franchise tag (only the Packers can negotiate with Adams), a non-exclusive tag (Adams can negotiate with other teams and sign one offer sheet which the Packers can match or decline to match: if they decline, the Packers receive two first-round picks), and a transition tag (Adams can negotiate and sign an offer sheet from some other team which the Packers can match or decline to match, but if they decline, the Packers receive no draft compensation, not even a compensatory pick). 

The exclusive franchise tag is rarely used (6 times since 2012).  The amount of this tag is unknown at this time.  It won't be known until restricted free agency ends on April 22nd.  Any signings of wide receivers in the next month or so will count under the formula.  The non-exclusive amount is used as a placeholder figure, with the NFL adjusting it upwards if necessary in late April.  The amount is the average of the top five wide receiver salaries or 120% of the player's previous salary, whichever is higher.  The amount can be considerably more than the non-exclusive amount. 

It is nearly inconceivable that the Packers would apply this tag.  Using this tag would eliminate legal tampering and offer sheets since other teams could not talk numbers with Adams or with his agent.  That would make it harder for Adams to calculate his actual value on the open market.  Is that a good thing or a bad thing for the Packers?  Allen Robinson, Mike Williams and arguably, Chris Godwin are the notable free agent wide receivers.  None of them are quite in Adams' league, and Godwin got hurt.  I do not see another elite receiver who will help define Adams' personal market.

If he is both stubborn and delusional about his value, the exclusive tag sounds like a bad thing to me.  [Looking at the contract of DeAndre Hopkins, it looks to me like a three year deal for $60 million, or about $20 million per season, not $27.5 million/year.]  If he is not delusional about his open market value being in the $27M to $30M range, then maybe it makes some sense to keep him wondering.  Adams' agent probably is at the combine trying to get feedback from teams.  Still, if this tag costs even a couple of million more than the non-exclusive tag, it is likely beyond the Packers' reach.

Overthecap estimates the transition tag at $16.74 million.  That number would be easier for the Packers to carry on the books but not enough easier to make a real difference, in my opinion.  [It would almost pay for a second round RFA tender to Lazard.]  The Packers could not match an offer sheet from another team that included a first-year cap hit of $17M to $20M: indeed anything over $13M or so gets difficult.  Quite a few teams could offer a structure that demands a big first-year cap number, and the Packers by rule could not alter the contract until 2023.  If they decline to match, the Packers would not even get a compensatory pick later.  This is a non-starter: the Packers get all of the problems associated with using one of the franchise tags without some of the main benefits.

The non-exclusive tag is the one that most people mean when they discuss the franchise tag.  It is currently estimated at $20.12 million (it depends on the actual salary cap limit).  Two first-round picks should preclude teams from issuing an offer sheet for Adams' signature but not deter teams from discussing trade compensation with the Packers while discussing contract terms with Adams at the same time.  That is the tag-and-trade scenario, but it also gives the Packers time to reach agreement on a long-term contract while Adams learns his true value on the open market.

The Packers can rescind any tag if they want to (unless Adams signs the tag).  Rescinding the tag means Adams would immediately become an unrestricted free agent and the Packers lose all chance of getting draft compensation from another team.  If they rescinded any of the tags, the Packers would still be eligible for a compensatory pick in the 2023 draft, which obviously would be a third rounder.  If Adams signs the tag (which he won't), the Packers can no longer rescind it, and it becomes a fully guaranteed one-year deal, but a long-term deal can stil be reached through July 15.  Rescinding tags is rare: the last one was Josh Norman way back in 2016.

There are good reasons to believe that Adams would not sign the tag.  The number one reason is that a team cannot trade a player who has not signed his tag.  The player has a complete veto over any trade.  The player would certainly retain some leverage even if he had signed the tag by threatening to refuse to report if he disliked the acquiring team selected by the Packers.  The acquiring team would need to be sure that Adams would play for them because a significant draft pick or picks would be involved.   

Another reason is that a player who has not signed his tag is not subject to fines for failing to show up for OTAs and training camp.  If no deal is reached by July 15, then the player can only play under a one-year deal: no long-term deal can be reached by anyone in 2022.  The player can still report to the team prior to week ten of the season, so the team has to keep the cap number amount in reserve in case the player does report, which means the team cannot use that space to sign any free agents.  At week ten, the team would have to still have almost half of the tag number amount available as cap space: note that the trade deadline usually occurs before week ten.

It has been written that the tag amount hits the cap immediately.  It depends on what you mean.  Tag numbers count against the cap starting the moment the new league year begins and not before, and it does not matter whether the player has signed the tag.  As a note, ERFA and RFA tenders are not due until March 16th.  That means there is some wriggle room between the 8th and the 16th.  If the Packers tag Adams but it turns out they do not have quite enough to issue an offer to Lazard at the 2nd round tender amount of $3.98M (or by extension, contracts to their UFAs or outside free agents), then they have made a choice about the benefits of tagging Adams and retaining Lazard's services at a fairly cheap rate along with the services of those other free agents.

History:  Something like half of all players who are tagged reach a long-term with their teams.  Some were traded and the rest played on the tag.  Only LeVeon Bell sat out a whole season in recent memory.  In 2021, nine players, safeties Marcus Williams, Justin Simmons, Marcus Maye, DT Leonard Williams, LG Brandon Scherff, OT Cam Robinson, WRs Chris Godwin and Allen Robinson were tagged.  Only Justin Simmons and Leonard Williams signed long-term among that group with the rest playing for the same team on the tag.  I think 2021 was a special case since the salary cap went way down.  Players assumed that 2022 would be a better year to sign a long-term deal and many teams simply lacked cap space to sign UFAs.  Also, Chris Godwin's injury highlights the risk a player takes by playing on the tag.  Scherff getting $18M as a LG (2nd time he was tagged and guards are lumped in with tackles) illustrates another point: it makes more sense to tag elite players than it does to tag just good players since the tag will be less than their value.  

This article from the Sporting News lists the players who have been tagged since 2015.  There were a whopping 15 players tagged in 2020, but otherwise 5 to 7 is normal.  Scanning the names on the list, it looks to me like half of those players reached long-term deals.  Three of the six players tagged in 2019 (Dee Ford, Frank Clark, and Jadeveion Clowney) received extensions after being traded, while Grady Jarrett, Robby Gould, and Demarcus Lawrence wrangled long-term extensions from the teams that tagged them. 

SO, WHAT SHOULD THE PACKERS DO?

It depends!

My first concern is a question of nuts and bolts.  That means negotiating like mad to make sure the team has the wherewithal to tag Adams.  I have voiced my concern that one or more players could throw a monkey wrench into the Packers' plans.  We now find that the Packers did not use void years on Bakhtiari's contract per Ken Ingalls, so his cap savings for 2022 should be $1.5M less than previously estimated.  The failure to use void years might have been a management decision, but it also might be due to a refusal on Bakhtiari's part to agree to void years.  He may have seen the effect of an enormous cap number in the last year of Zadarius Smith's deal and concluded that having a cap number normally only applied to quarterbacks is bad for him.

The Packers absolutely have to generate cap space, preferably by extensions rather than by releases (if they are going all-in again).  That presents good opportunities for some of these players to demand sweetened deals.   Preston Smith, age 30, is coming off the best season of his career.  He should strike while the iron is hot rather than waiting until after the 2022 season to cash in on a big-money, long term deal. 2022 might see an injury or a decline in the quality of his play.  I see no reason for Preston Smith's agent not to ask for the moon, or perhaps $18M AAV, anyway.  Preston Smith has no void years, so there he has to agree to alter his contract.  The Packers could decide that it is worth it to overpay Smith somewhat or they could just release him to gain $12.5M in cap relief.  If the "plan" was to get $8M in cap relief, Gute would have $4.5M at hand to try to replace Preston Smith, which seems difficult (or even just bid on his services in free agency).  He has shown he can play at a high level in Green Bay so he is a better bet than trying to replace him in free agency or the draft.  

The same principle applies to every other player in question.  Amos, Turner and Lowry gave void years last year, so the Packers might be able to auto-convert roster and base salary into a signing bonus if the contract language allows for that and thus the team might not need the cooperation of these players.  It would mean that the Packers spread the cap hit over four years instead of the five that would be normally available with cooperation or an extension.  The Packers probably could wring more cap savings out of extensions than auto-conversions would allow.  All of them had very good years and their market value might never be higher, particularly Lowry.  If Amos is worth $12M AAV on an extension, perhaps he can get $14M AAV from the Packers?  For 2022, Turner will be 31, Preston 30, Amos 29 and Lowry will be 28.

The next steps are to get Alexander extended to gain $6M to $7M in cap relief.  That should not be difficult since it is probably better for him to get the extension than to play on a 5th-year option.  They need a couple of plans for what to do with Mason Crosby and Marcedes Lewis (combined cap relief if both were released is $4.84M after all) under various scenarios.  I am assuming that ZaDarius Smith and Randall Cobb will be released, though I suppose they could take truly massive pay cuts to remain Packers. 

Finally, they have to await the decision of Aaron Rodgers, which simply has to come in the next few days.  I suspect that the front office will apprise Rodgers of their general plan if he returns, including the fates of Cobb and Crosby, and some general idea of which RFAs and UFAs they plan to and/or think they may be able to retain (or at least make good-faith offers to).  Then the Packers can decide about tagging Davante Adams.

The Packers could go ahead and tag Adams.  They can rescind it if necessary.  They can reach an extension if necessary though it is not clear how dug in each side is as to what his AAV should be.  The notion of a tag and trade without Adams' agreement is not really feasible.  If there is a delay in hammering out the details in Adams' extension or finding a trade partner acceptable to Adams, it is possible that the Packers will watch some or all of Campbell, Douglas, Lazard, MVS, and a few other contributors sign contracts with other teams in the first wave of free agency.  If Rodgers agrees to an extension with the Packers that provides a lot of cap relief, that might help persuade Adams to sign an extension with a cap number around $10M for 2022.  Then it would seem to be an issue of whether Adams and the team can agree on his value.           

Finally, the other related issue is that getting better than a third-round compensatory pick for Adams is nothing to be sneezed at if the front office can lay the proper groundwork to make the money and cap work.  The Packers' draft results for picking players in the 85 to 104 slots of the draft are pretty bad (though that could be both recency bias and a simple aberration) whereas their results for late first rounders and second rounders are pretty good.  Estimates are that the Packers could get somewhere between a late first and a second rounder for Adams - I am not sure how much Adams' contractual demands might affect that compensation.  Those are pure policy decisions for policy-makers to examine and make.

I have written that the Packers' threat to tag Adams was probably an empty one.  Yes, the Packers could tag Adams, while also trading Rodgers (meaning no cap relief from Rodgers), but it would be a close thing short of some crazy contracts.  The Packers would have to be extremely aggressive with and probably generous to their other sources of cap relief while being willing to accept having a lot of dead money pushed into 2023 and beyond, and possibly having to forego the tender on Lazard.  I doubted the team's willingness to be that aggressive.      

 

 

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

March 03, 2022 at 10:53 pm

If the Packers need to tag Adams by March 8th it doesn't sound like Rodgers can wait until Free Agency opens to make up his mind.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 03, 2022 at 11:32 pm

That is my take on it, as well. The Packers contingency plan might be to tag Adams even if AR retires or wants a trade, in which case it doesn't matter much when he decides. Keeping Adams might be so Love has someone to throw to so Love can be fairly evaluated, or to trade Adams for better draft picks than the compensatory formula provides.

I did see Ken Ingalls suggest Cobb taking a $3.75M pay cut (down from $7.875M to $4.12M), pay him $1.12 minimum base and convert the $3.00M difference to a signing bonus. Proration is 600K each year, so his cap would be $1.12M + $.6M + $1.391M + $.265M game active bonus to get $6.1M in cap relief while keeping Cobb for another year. Cobb would void out in 2023 and have a $3.91M dead money charge. IDK.

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PeteK's picture

March 04, 2022 at 09:45 am

Releasing Cobb after 6/1 saves 8 mill this season. He is an injury waiting to happen, and was not a good signing .

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croatpackfan's picture

March 05, 2022 at 05:59 am

How can you say that. He is Packers because GM Rodgers insists to sign him. You want to tell AR is not good GM?

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PeteK's picture

March 05, 2022 at 10:12 am

I would also volunteer to pack his bags. hahahaha

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 04, 2022 at 09:57 am

Excellent work TGR! (Check your email...) ; P

I'm sure everything will become clear very shortly, while I am hoping for the best, I expect the worst.

Not even sure what the best/worst case scenarios look like, but it seems the FO has done exactly the opposite of rational lately.

I have my personal feelings on what should transpire, but I suspect none of the things I wish would happen will happen...

Keep up the wicked work TGR.

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LLCHESTY's picture

March 05, 2022 at 02:29 am

I'm pretty sure Rodgers said March 8th was the deadline the 1st time he was on McAfee's show after the season.

The "should I stay or should I go" news that came out today is adding to the frustrations of a lot of fans. If he doesn't make a decision by the 8th I'll be ready to join them.

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jhtobias's picture

March 03, 2022 at 11:06 pm

This organization has turned into a clown show. Aaron Rodgers is a mvp quarterback yes multiple times but he is not a champion make no mistake about it your record is what it is Aaron . Remember this Aaron Joe Montana 4x champion Tom Brady 6 time Champion, Big Ben 2x Time Champion , and the list goes on Rodgers you are not in their company and shouldn't ever be compared to this great quarterbacks .

The organization is so scared of becoming irrelevant that the Fake Champion Quarterback has them by the you know what . What a joke this team has become have some pride trade his ass let him retire what ever your not gonna win with this clown anyway same one and done hope it's worth it ..

Titletown is has become Clown Town to bad

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tincada's picture

March 04, 2022 at 09:29 am

You're so right. I see no one is arguing with you. GB has let this jerk grab them by the you know what. It's always what can GB do for the egotist. Not what can the the egotist do for GB. Dump the jerk before he empties the bank. He's not that good and get the most you can for the jerk.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 03, 2022 at 11:43 pm

The NFL in its wisdom has eliminated the covid rules which includes covid replacement players and going back to the old rules about injured reserve. IR will again be for 8 weeks (6 games plus 2 weeks eligible to practice) and only three players will be eligible to return per year. That's a little better than the old rules.

A lot of players did not like the 3 week IR rules because young players often have split contracts, so they make less on IR than if the team carries them for a couple or three weeks. Teams like the longer IR stints because when they place a player on IR they still have to pay them but usually have to promote a player to the active roster from the PS. Now coaches will just have more players on on the 53 but on the inactive list on game days. That no doubt lessens the quality of the product while not delivering eye-popping savings to the teams, but the NFL can obsess over small amounts. I suppose those Covid rules helped some PS guys get into real NFL games and gave them an opportunity to show what they could do.

Some changes to the PS rules, but nothing too major. 14 players on the PS this year. 4 veterans.

As to the article, I favor tagging Adams if Rodgers provides lots of cap relief because he is returning. Not so sure about tagging if AR doesn't return unless the plan is a rebuild. Adams sucking up $20M and not getting $15M to 20M from AR might mean watching a lot of guys leave GB in the first wave of free agency. I'd think GB would have perhaps only a few million in cap space for UFA, and probably under $7M.

If nothing else, the draft pick this year instead of next is better and it should be 30 to 70 spots higher than a 3rd round compensatory pick.

I know there were a lot of comments on Cory's article about this. I was late to that party because I worked and then spent 5 hours at the family business doing paperwork. I thought I'd chime in if only to provide some tidbits of info I had seen more than anything.

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Coldworld's picture

March 04, 2022 at 08:10 am

Honestly, I’m more disappointed that the PS rules seem to be reverting to pre Covid. The flexibility seemed to be a positive thing for both the league and the players to me.

Keeping Adams makes no sense to me without Rodgers and, while it makes sense in theory with Rodgers, it is impractical in terms of its knock on effect. With the team seemingly hanging on for Rodgers to determine their strategy, who knows what other nonsense may be under consideration though.

Much as I like P Smith, that sort of contract for a 30 year old rusher seems a risk that would normally be avoided, Cobb too. I just get the feeling that, to avoid the illogicality of the situation, people are pushing the bounds of credibility wider than history justifies to find a way to find a path through. To me that’s always a red flag in itself.

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stockholder's picture

March 04, 2022 at 06:20 am

I just don't see anyone giving up two #1s for any WR. Especially one that wants 30 mil. a year. I always thought if Rodgers wanted him. He would have to give up something. Plus Cobb. But it is what it is. Blackmail! I believe Adams is a band-Aid. WE NEED MORE THAN ADAMS. We can't depend on MVS. Gutey isn't TT. But the draft is the answer here.

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Guam's picture

March 04, 2022 at 07:57 am

Doesn't tagging Adams become something of a "chicken or egg" question for Rodgers. Rodgers has made it well known that he wants to play with Adams. I suspect Rodgers wants to see Adams signed to a long term deal before he signs his new deal. However if TGR is correct, the Packers need Rodgers to sign to free up cap space before they can tag/sign Adams.

Further complicating the issue is Rodgers wants a long term deal for Adams and probably doesn't want to see his buddy tagged since Adams most likely would be financially hurt by a tag. If Rodgers signs his deal first, then the Packers can tag Adams which Rodgers most likely doesn't want to see happen. However if Rodgers doesn't sign his deal first, the chances of the Packers retaining Adams goes down.

The prisoners' dilemma revisited..........

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Coldworld's picture

March 04, 2022 at 08:16 am

It’s a grotesque mystery that is now starting to be excessively prolonged. If (speculative) Rodgers is insisting that Adams be back on a long term deal before he commits, then the absence of contact till recently suggests that neither will transpire.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 04, 2022 at 10:03 am

Maybe that's the plan?

They prolong this until it is too late. We end up having to let DA walk out the door for a 3rd Round Comp Pick, Trade AR, and Roll with the "Love Machine?"

I could absolutely see worse scenarios play out though.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 04, 2022 at 11:59 am

it isn't grotesque, my friend. And it isn't (yet) overly prolonged, though 5 more days would change my tune. Your bias is just showing.

If the obstacle is simply what should Adams' AAV be, that could be tough.

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Coldworld's picture

March 04, 2022 at 05:35 pm

It became protracted when we got within a week of the tag deadline in my mind. I don’t equivocate about thinking that neither is the likely best outcome.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 04, 2022 at 11:55 am

They could play with the $10M cost for PS, 52nd/53rd and draft picks since that bill doesn't come due until late May ($2.5M? for draft picks, and the rest in early September).

Adams would be waiting for the Pack to have to pay those bills and thus have to rescind his tag, and GB would be waiting for other teams to spend all their money in FA thus depriving Adams of a Market for a $28M superduper WR.

Then they can all decide that maybe $25M AAV (give or take) ain't so bad, and he signs for a first year cap number of $10M or they trade him for a 2nd rounder since it has to be a team Adams likes who is good already and has a QB.

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DougXX57's picture

March 04, 2022 at 08:05 am

Rodgers needs to make up his mind like in the next couple of days so the team can move on and sign the other players. I'm thinking they should know by Tuesday the 8th and that will give them 8 days to complete the team and go after players like Douglass and Campbell.. Let's get it done!!!! For the sake of the Packers.. Either way the shoe falls, Doit next week and early next week

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Roadrunner23's picture

March 04, 2022 at 08:15 am

Behind closed doors Adams, Rodgers and the Packers already know what they are going to do.

It will all happen at once.

The Packers aren’t going to leak anything cuz they don’t want to piss off #12 & #17

It’s as good as done ✅

Only the formalities remain

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dobber's picture

March 04, 2022 at 11:02 am

At this stage, I think this must be true.

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PeteK's picture

March 04, 2022 at 10:03 am

Preston is a tough decision because while he is still good, we could save 12.5 mill releasing him. I'm just very happy that all this dizzying and extremely annoying saga will/should be solved by Monday/Tues. See I can't even decide if or when or how or who or where or what. Is it happy hour anywhere, I need two fingers of Widow/Buffalo. I can't even decide what to drink. Make it 4!

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 04, 2022 at 10:18 am

I keep coming back to the conclusion I have no control over any of it. Yes, it drives me crazy thinking of all the possibilities, yet not knowing what they're thinking is even worse.

I know they have a plan. Not sure it is a good plan, smart plan, or feasible plan though.

Hope our contingency plans are wicked though, because I think we're going to need them.

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HarryHodag's picture

March 04, 2022 at 10:39 am

Is Adams a product of Aaron Rodgers? If the answer is yes, then think about an expensive contract extension for a receiver that might only see Rodgers 0-2 years.

I say franchise tag Adams for a number one pick from another team. If Rodgers decides having his pal elsewhere is a slight, well, there are other teams that would take Rodgers as is.

I'm not convinced as other fans that extending Rodgers guarantees the Packers another shot at the Super Bowl. Yes, not having him greatly reduces the chances, but it also might provide enough coming back to build a contender soon.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 04, 2022 at 11:05 am

I'm not convinced we have a shot at the Super Bowl if we extend Rodgers, but it will be awhile before we do if we trade him or he retires. (I don't see him retiring for at least two years.)

I do believe the FO thinks AR/DA give us a shot at a Super Bowl though, so unless AR asks for a trade, I expect them both back. IDK how, or at what cost, but that is what I expect.

Personally, I hope AR asks for a trade, Packers comply with his request, tag-n-trade DA and we draft three WRs this Spring and unleash the "Love Machine" this fall. ; )

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dobber's picture

March 04, 2022 at 11:06 am

The gap between the end of the tagging period and the start of the league year means that even if 12 balks at how 17 is treated, there's time to work it out...as stated below, I think this is all figured out already.

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dobber's picture

March 04, 2022 at 11:03 am

For those in the "tag-and-trade" mindset, the Doughboys are reported to be likely to cut Amari Cooper. That turns another high-end WR loose on the market and likely depresses 17's value (both in trade and as a FA).

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 04, 2022 at 11:09 am

True. I still hope we tag-n-trade DA even if it's for a 2nd round pick. Take that 2nd round pick and draft Skyy Moore or Alec Pierce or Christian Watson.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if Gutey drafted all three of them somehow. ; ) (I know, that's greedy, but draft time is the time of dreams!) Lol

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 04, 2022 at 11:44 am

Cooper's deal was always weird. It was a 2-year, $40M deal all guaranteed. Just $10M signing bonus. Guaranteed $30M in salary in the first two years. $6M dead after the two yeas, leaving $16M in cap savings. Dallas is $13M over the cap, but also has a lot of UFA including Connor Williams (quality OG), Randy Gregory, WR Gallup, nice TE Dalton Schultz, LB Vander Esch, Kearse and Neal.

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jont's picture

March 04, 2022 at 12:39 pm

I am a fan and I like all of our players so I assume they're good, reasonable guys. (Yes, even 12 because even good guys say and do the wrong thing once in a while.)

Based on this and not much else, I think Devante wants to stay in GB, particularly if 12 is here. So as long as GB makes a good offer, 'good' as Devante sees it, he'll stay.

But there's always one team that loses its mind and throws a pile of many at a free agent and blows the market. Somebody is going offer Devante crazy money if he hits the market. He knows it, Gute knows it. To prevent his hitting the market, Gute will have to make a sweet offer and really soon. Let's hope they're close.

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croatpackfan's picture

March 05, 2022 at 06:20 am

You call 2 and almost half years as once in a while? OK

I'm sure DEVANTE would be back if he receive quality offer. For DAVANTE Adams, I'm not so sure.

Also there is the Salary Cap problems Packers has...

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barutanseijin's picture

March 04, 2022 at 03:34 pm

Here’s hoping that all the potential snags and pitfalls mean that the QB & WR with wildcard round talent will be playing somewhere else next year.

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Dzehren's picture

March 04, 2022 at 03:38 pm

since when did GB start signing 30 year olds to long term contracts who are not QB"s or special teams.

Oh, that's right. DBAHK. how's that working out? let Davonte walk.

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LLCHESTY's picture

March 05, 2022 at 02:34 am

I got tired of arguing with people about tagging Adams without a Rodgers restructure and just use this now.

https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/status/1498795121214738436?t=zm5Vg2y704fn...

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 06, 2022 at 03:41 am

Ken has the Packers about $7M short of the amount necessary to tag Adams without money from AR even in this tweet because they aren't going to cut Preston Smith or Lowry.

And Lowry's dead isn't $2.12M because he has another $1.86M in dead money for void years. This is Lowry's post june number but Ken has it at the pre june number.

Ken took the $12.5M for cutting Preston, but in his other recent tweet he took $6.8M in cap savings on an extension for Preston (I took $8M).

And Ken is not worrying about paying for the PS, 52/53 contracts and an in-season piggy bank. At least $10M more for that.

So, not sure what point you're making here with this tweet. I remain unmoved by it: the Packers can't really tag Adams without cap relief from AR.

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flackcatcher's picture

March 07, 2022 at 12:38 am

And that's the bottom line. Has been before Rodger's started his 'little show'. We all knew Rodgers would have to have some sort of Tom Brady contract. The trade-off was how much say would Rodger's get in the organization. Aaron Rodgers can not have both. He can either have his monster contract, with the result of playing with a clearly younger and less experience team. Or he does a Brady and gets a playoff team back with Adams(maybe) for one or two years. It is pretty clear either way. As dobber pointed out, Rodger's values his contract numbers far more than building a championship team, or having a serious say in the front office.

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tincada's picture

March 09, 2022 at 09:15 am

This was one of the great commentary articles on Cheesehead! How ever the 3 stooges, Gute, Murf and Flower let the jerk drag them around again. NFC N and that's it as the jerk pushes GB into the Lion's zone. Sucks to be a GB fan anymore.

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