CW...I was thinking the exact thing. If Rodgers is STILL not all in on playing in GB next year, he will never be. I can see him second guessing himself all season. And if he or the team goes through a rough patch on the field, how will he react?

It may be he has general knowledge of the roster cuts looming if he stays...and it may be giving him pause.

My take as well CW. If he isn't all in on the Packers, it is time for him to go elsewhere. A fresh start may be beneficial to his attitude and the Packers don't need a guy who may isn't completely committed. Trade him and start over.

Rodgers may need a push to get over his indecision. That push may happen on March 8. The Packers have reportedly had no contract negotiations with Adams and given the difficulty in tagging him, it appears Adams will become a free agent come March 8th. Without Davante, Rodgers may become decisive.

If Rodgers doesn't make a decision then, the FO will have to step up and make the decision for him.

What do the Prop Bets look like ?

If Rodgers stays, he should cut that greasy gross long hair, and at least shave once a week!!

correct me if I'm wrong. he could still retire, dawdle, and unretire and force the packers hand for little to no compensation. this is a delicate dance. he has some power and sway.

ultimately, i blame murphy for the current state of things.

Yeah, I tend to agree.

Also consider that for him to return for 2022 is going to require another big time signing bonus. What if 2022 doesn't go well? It depends on how big the signing bonus is, but I would envision having a minimum of $25M in dead money again after this season, and it could be closer to $47M.

Agreed.

Lots of $$$ wasted,

Totally agree and if one checks the sources - Florio hates Green Bay and in particular hates AR- so all I can say is whatever. Rappaport is a dufus - totally a dufus - and he pretends to be an insider - so he is really the great pretender. Wouldnt doubt that he told someone to tell him that AR is torn. And then he reported it - but it was probably his neighbor cutting grass.

Tuesday is DDay - and after that negotiations will start with both him and longer term with Adams who once he is franchised that deadline is done. Now if he pulls a Favre and doesnt decide on Tuesday - then it is good riddance - start the cutting to get to the cap and look for a long rebuild - because after paying AR and Adams - everyone of value will need to go. And so what if he retires.

Fair enough and I understand what you mean. But it is hard to ignore several "insider" reports and dozens of articles in the media while CHTV ignores it all by not writing this type of article.

I don't think that much of Florio but Rapoport has been pretty reliable. Not sure if Rapoport's source is also Florio's or if Florio is his source, of course.

Backchannel stuff happens all the time...on the golf course, at a concert, at a league function--whether it's agents, legal reps, players, GMs. Rising to a level of "tampering" is hard to demonstrate. Teams can do it with other teams, why would we assume players don't do it, too?

The Packers and ARod have until the start of the league year to get this figured out or the cap goes "Ka-BLOOIE!" I have no doubt that there's been backchannel talks between the Packers and other teams IF they really think there's a good chance this falls apart--they have to know where they're going to turn, after all--and it's very possible there has been initial gauging of level of interest from the ARod camp with those possible actors because they'll have to get a new deal done toute-de-suite and ARod won't go somewhere he won't get paid.

They want him back because he proved he could win on the field last season AFTER round one of taking the "business" side public, and because he still holds all the important cards as to whether he stays, is traded, or retires. If he chooses to leave, they would be fools not to backchannel.

I actually still hope that part of the peacemaking last year between ARod and Gute was an agreement to backchannel together for a mutually best outcome if ARod did decide to move on.

As to timing of ARod's decision, if you have been reading dobber's posts IMO he has had it pegged all along.

Forget any Capitol. A contract is intended to be enforceable by law. If A Rod is truly back channelling deals. It's insubordination/Tampering. And they wouldn't want him back. I can see why Rodgers wanted to be traded. Being the Packers might have failed many promises to him, by drafting Love.

We could get a whole lot of draft capital by trading them both, and save 70 million. I turned against Favre when he became a prima donna and I've now turned against Rodgers. If the man has questions about wanting to stay, screw him.

"If AR stays, will our cap be destroyed for years? Can we tag-n-trade DA if Rodgers decides to come back? Can we tag-n-trade DA if AR doesn't come back?"

Tag-n-trade is hard, no matter what just because of the gymnastics that will likely be needed with the cap....but if ARod comes back, you're trying to be winning in 2022, so I think a tag on Adams means he plays in GB in 2022. A tag/trade scenario there makes no sense. And, frankly, unless the Packers net a QB in return in trade or early in FA that they think they can win with in 2022, tagging and keeping 17 makes no sense.

Sounds like a Grisham novel?

Bird,
Seems to me Rodgers is deliberately waiting. Should the Packers tag Adam's and keep him than Rodgers stays one more year than they both leave in 2023. Should Adam's not be tagged he leaves and Rodgers forces a trade. If Im correct Rodger's is determined to dictate what happens with Adam's which negatively impacts the Packers. By demanding $50 million of course the Packers cannot afford to sign him and tag Adam's. I'm hopeful the Packers tag Adam's and have a team already lined up to trade him to.

I'm pretty certain Rodgers and Adam's are both gone. If true I sure hope we fleece some team for draft capital. I still believe it is Denver.

"Note to Gute, Murphy, and LaFleur..."

They need to make ARod look as desirable as possible because it enables the most possible positive outcomes for the team--either in making him happy in GB, making the GB fan base happy, or making him look like a good investment elsewhere. In all, they really have no choice.

I've really quit actively following any of the releases and statements because they don't mean jack until someithing official is filed with the league.

I can see 12 already rolling his eyes, shaking his head and showing up the young receivers.

Bakh and Clark's restructures were going to happen regardless of what happens with AR. They weren't done to influence AR: they were necessities. They were necessitated last year when everyone in sight was extended/restructured. Gets harder each year a team tries to do that.

Otherwise, I enjoy a good rant. I wrote a rant on RR when he was drafted and then another real doozer or a rant after his first (or was it his second) season. Remembering them still gives me pleasure. Yours was a good rant.

NP….I’m sure you would be happy to hear that me, a friend and our spouses bought 4 Love Jerseys and proudly wore them at the KC game and the nights prior. For those four days we were the talk of the town at restaurants and bars. Many thought we were his relatives even thou our skin color was a bit different which was quite funny. People just couldn’t figure out why we already had his jersey.

@NickPerry this is the top notch content that keeps me coming back to the comment section

How many times have the Fans Choked? LaFleur had to cheer lead to get them off their asses in the last contest.

Don’t rock the boat Rick most so called fans here love Drama and here say .

You can't really be that dumb can you? What exactly are you blaming Biden for now?

Compared to the orange coward and his GQP deplorables everyone is a hero. Thanx god for Joe. He is great and without him we would be in trouble an Im not a Democrat. But if you see if the weak, dumb, unamerican right wingers run america into the ground. Its really a joke.
This Fox news criminals and the usfull idiots have no moral and values. Just like AR. Just, hate, flatearth and victimhood. They are really the dumbest peole in the history of human kind.

I bet you never played any sports. But a least you are point one that the fat conman and AR are living fake news for the american lowlife. They should work for the Fox russian troll canal for idiots.

And thats not about politics. just normal moral, but I guess you have no idea what that means

VINCE was e HERO

Dear me, this reminds me of the beer someone gave my son. Busch lite. Eww. Last time he brought home swill I went out and bought some good German Bier, including some Kostritzer. And I no longer drink at all. Still, not falling for that again: he can drink that garbage. I just advised him to get it as cold as possible because IIRC that's the only way it is at all tolerable.

His contract now automatically voids prior to the tag season next year. He can not therefore be tagged after this year and not can he be traded.

When you grow up you'll be eligible to understand facts of life...

haha, said the flaterather who has now idea what a grown men is. Look in the mirror its the opposite. You know everything about bad mounthing as all of your posts are about that kind of stuff.
But you cant look older that AR thats for sure. Great regular season QQB..teribble person. No Packer People at all

I think that's the plan... I think the FO/AR/DA all know what is about to go down.

Denver, here they come...

That is the point Ross! Rodgers and Adam's intentionally set their salary expectations so high that that they know the Packers likely won't sign both. Meaning the hope would be the Packers do not tag Adam's. If Adam's isn't signed Rodgers leaves.

Rodgers and Adam's are in collusion working this together to leverage the Packers to do what they want. Either pay us outlandish dollars for both of us, or we are gone. The Packers cannot tag Adam's without Rodgers agreeing to stay. I see the Packers publicly saying they want Rodgers, however unless they sign/tag Adam's the message is they really do not want Rodgers. If they don't tag/sign Adam's they force Rodgers to ask for a trade and the Packers get rid of the choking diva, but publicly come out looking good.

I feel fairly confident this is the Packers approach.

Trade, or trade...

; )

"Also, contemplating leaving a job where you have worked for 10+ years is generally a "torn" experience"...

Especially when you publicly shitted on your employer and managing staff, your direct boss and your colleagues. It must be really hard to make the decision after that. Or, you can jump into your own mouth and say: I'm sorry! Publicly as you did opposite publicly.

So, where is the doubt. What torn him.

How did special teams do in the playoff game?

Not a Rodgers defense, but no one person has ever won a football game. It’s takes 11 guys at a time, all doing their job for 60 minutes of regulation play, to win a football game. That is why it’s called a team sport.

Ivermectin is a hell of a drug!!

This might be the most truthful thing you've ever posted.

The people of Africa would agree with you, not to mention the Noble Prize it received in 2015.

Well you are the biggest mother of a canine today.

...and chug its way across the rubicon...

I've said pretty much all along Adam's is the key to Rodgers. Ransom note...pay Adam's a shit load of money, or I'm gone! Adam's sign I sign! Adam's leaves than I leave.

I have somehow hoped the Packers could tag and trade Adam's but do not believe that can happen. If Adam's is tagged than Rodgers will stay. If Adam's isn't than both leave.

TGR,
It also begs the question does the Packer FO really truly want Rodgers back? Certainly if they don't they have to toe the corporate PR line and say all the right things that they do for the fans. However, if they know (and I believe this to be true) that Rodgers will only stay with the Packers should Adam's be resigned/tagged, subsequently they do not resign/tag Adam's they intentionally force Rodger's hand to go elsewhere. By doing this it makes Rodger's out to be the bad apple and takes the PR pressure off the Packer FO. This scenario would be a PR genius move other than the fact the Packers would only get possibly a 3rd round of compensation in 2023.

Like Bird is saying I sure hope the Packers can somehow tag/sign Adam's and bundle him along with Rodgers to another team for maximum compensation. However, I have no doubt that neither Rodger's or Adam's would prefer for that to happen (vs Adam's leave as a FA and sign wherever Rodger's does) as any extra compensation for Adam's simply weakens the team they are going to. Sure a lot of moving parts with a lot of people/franchises with many different motivations involved in all this. Unfortunately at least from here it sure seems like Rodger's and Adam's have the upper hand in the final outcome, as I sure do not see them working together with the Packer FO to make sure should they leave that the Packers will get the most compensation as possible for the franchise.