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Report: Packers S Morgan Burnett Expected to Sign With Steelers

-- After trading away their starting cornerback prior to the start of the free agency period, the Green Bay Packers may be letting their starting strong safety go as well.

According to former Packers receiver James Jones, who now resides at the NFL Network, safety Morgan Burnett has reportedly accepted a deal with the Pittsburgh Steelers and is flying to meet with the team and complete the deal on Tuesday.

Burnett, who has been dubbed as the "quarterback of the defense," was the most versatile player in the secondary prior to his contract expiring at the start of the new league year on March 14. He had yet to be given a chance to mesh with new defensive coordinator Mike Pettine, who likely would've utilized Burnett as a rotational chess piece.

He played in just 12 games last season, defending three passes (his lowest since his rookie season) and failing to record a single interception for the first time since 2015 when he played in just 11 games.

Burnett's market value was estimated by Spotrac to hover just under $10 million, pitting him with an average annual salary of $9.8 million. However, other sources claimed Burnett is seeking an $8.5 million dollar payday. The Steelers may be the team to complete the deal.

Burnett's market value is one thing, but his value in the Packers' secondary was on a whole other level.

He showed the capacity to play in various positions -- whether it be at his natural safety spot, as the nickel cornerback, or more recently and notably as an extra linebacker in the box -- as well as being arguably the best tackler of the Packers' back-end defenders.

Last year's second-round (61st) overall pick Josh Jones and undrafted Marwin Evans are the only strong safeties on the Packers' roster at the moment. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Kentrell Brice and Jermaine Whitehead are the only remaining players at free safety, but that position hasn't seen any changes so far this offseason.

This may open the door for Jones to receive the starting job. Whether or not he's ready to fill the shoes Burnett leaves behind remains to be seen, but he's shown the tenacity and the smarts to play in the teeth of the defense and isn't afraid to come down in run support.

That isn't to say the Packers don't need to address the safety position between now and September, but if Jones is the plan moving forward -- which it's certainly possible he could be -- then it's a start.

Burnett is the second veteran from the Packers' Super Bowl 45 roster who is leaving Green Bay this offseason to play for a new team in 2018, joining receiver Jordy Nelson, now an Oakland Raider.

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4zone's picture

I smell the distinctive odor of 'crash and burn' here. I know our secondary sucked, but getting rid of two starters and not signing anyone better only makes it suck worse. I can see cutting the guys way down on the totem pole, but we are gonna have to draft secondary almost exclusively in the first 3-4 rounds then wait 2-3 years for them to learn how to actually play in the NFL if ever.

I don't see Jones being able to handle the back end of things. He's great in the box, but not so much deep. I'm not being overly impressed so far even with our two FA signings and trade.

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

Jones could be a good safety or a great linebacker. So of course, we'll make him a safety.

Michael Hughes's picture

We cannot draft secondary exclusively .

We have to be drafting offense, if you keep drafting defense , your offense becomes old and creaking and you need to pay over the top for stopgaps. WR, TE and OL are draft needs.

We also need pass rush.

They have to just let jones take over at safety I think, find a vet corner from somewhere and draft a corner to compete with rollins for nickle.

HankScorpio's picture

"We cannot draft secondary exclusively ."

I agree that drafting 12 DBs would be a mistake. I feel good about predicting they won't.

The upside of having 12 picks is that you can use 3-4 on adding secondary help from what Gute has called a deep secondary group and still have have 8-9 picks to use elsewhere.

Cubbygold's picture

I'm no expert, but I've heard ppl say that dix and jones are similar guys and wouldn't be the best pairing. Can those two be GBs starting safteys?

ShanghaiKid's picture

@Cubby you are correct. It was actually an article published on this site and it provided clear evidence on film that Dix is better suited closer to the line. Jones falls under that distinction as well it would seem.

HankScorpio's picture

Pettine says he likes his Safeties to be interchangeable. He might play one close to the line in "attack mode" one week and then switch it up the next week. He said it gives his guys less to think about while it gives the offense more to think about.

Makes sense to me.

Finwiz's picture

I predicted the Packers wouldn't resign Burnett, so I'm not surprised by this.

I didn't really want to see him back either. He made no plays of significance last season, and missed 5 games.

He isn't really worth the money he's asking, but somebody will eventually pay him. He's just a tackler that can play in the box, and doesn't make any big plays or INT's unless the balls thrown right to him. Limited ability to play the ball in the air, and turn his head to track passes. Saw too many times him running with back to the ball and pass sails right by his head for a completion.

Jones can do just as well with some experience. This isn't a big loss.
Losing Randall was a bigger deal, but I understand why they dumped him with the attitude he has around teammates.

GBPDAN1's picture

We have a current mess in our secondary!

Sorry for being negative...I just needed to rant. I'm going to sit back and see how our new GM gets us out of this mess. Let's hope for the best.

Lare's picture

If nothing else, Gutekunst is getting rid of enough starters so that pretty much any BPA he drafts will be a starter.

dobber's picture

So many guys have been hurt that just about anyone left was a de facto starter at some point.

CAG123's picture

Honestly I’m not that hung up on Burnett leaving he was an average to good safety at best. The Packers need to stop looking for the next Kam and start looking for the next Earl Thomas they can always find a thumper inbox safety heck they currently have 3 on the roster in HHCD, Jones, and Brice. They need to grab a guy that has the speed and awareness to man the back end we haven’t had that since Nick Collins.

Savage57's picture

Calling HHCD a 'thumper' is a bit of hyperbole.

The only thumping sound you hear from HHCD is the sound his feet are making as he's avoiding contact.

Razer's picture

So true. I still can't believe the film on Clinton Dix purposely avoiding tackles down the stretch. While Clay Matthews was playing flat out in the final games, Dix was totally mailing it in. I don't know how you can trust that kind of player.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

I think it's interesting that players get called lockerroom poison for saying things I see in this comments section on almost every post.

CAG123's picture

Despite all that HHCD can hit his 2015 season shows it. Besides that wasn’t really the point the Packers have too many safeties that are more suited for playing in the box.

worztik's picture

You say trade Rodgers for picks??? I agree completely 321!!!!

Coldworld's picture

Maybe this is deliberate. The secondary was hardly great. We have a new DC. Maybe the packers are clearing house of those they deem to be unsuited to the new identity or not worth their cost.

Free agency is not over. This is just the first wave. Let’s see where we are in August

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

This is what happens when you hang onto declining, expensive veterans to the bitter end. Ted wrecked our cap, and Gut is being too cowardly to make the serious moves to fix our cap crisis.

No way we could even think of re-signing Burnett in our pitiful cap condition. I saw this coming a mile away.

Michael Hughes's picture

It is what happens when you purely draft defense.

You have to keep hold of overpaid declining vets like nelson and cobb and then are forced to sign more like graham to plug holes. We dont have a RG and have to rely on bulagas knee to hold up.

And yet even now people want us to just draft defense.

GB Jacker's picture

Remember when people said we didn't have a LG and Lane Taylor came in and played great. Justin McCray could be as good I think. Way too early to worry guys!

The TKstinator's picture

The Worry Bus runs 24/7/365.
AND we are jacking up our rates as well.

dobber's picture

You don't have to have exact change, either...

Tundraboy's picture

Lmao That's right. My Mother was Sicilian, I think they invented worrying.

Finwiz's picture

LOL - my mom's a Sicilian too, and her middle name is "worry".

Tundraboy's picture

There's a saying. In Sicily woman are more dangerous than shotguns.

Cubbygold's picture

This comment is hilarious, thanks for the laugh.

GB had 10 draft selections last year, 6 of them were offense, 4 were defense.

The narrative you're selling yourself isn't remotely based in reality

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

True, but the first 4 were on D. All the premium picks being for Defense needs to be factored in.

The TKstinator's picture

As a keen observer of the human condition, I have noticed that any variation of “I told you so” is usually met with disfavor.
I know you know that but I was just letting you know that I know that you knew that.
Ya know?

dobber's picture

Adult decisions? Wait for it....

The TKstinator's picture

Is an “adult bookstore” a good place to make “adult decisions”?

Nick Perry's picture

What is it you expect Gutekunst to do? Should he have cut Cobb and Matthews on top of Nelson and created even MORE holes? Does it REALLY make sense to cut Cobb as well and leave Rodgers with who exactly to throw to? Does it make sense to cut Matthews with a new DC who BTW is really excited to work with Matthews in his defense? Matthews may not be what he was at 27 years old but who is? He had 7 or 8 sacks last season in a defense that NEVER changed and offenses knew EXACTLY where Matthews was every down and what he was going to do.

With Philbin coming back and the Offense going through an overhaul as well I'm GLAD Cobb is still here. The guy has one of the TOP catch percentages of any WR in the NFL. Rodgers likes him and more importantly TRUSTS him. If Gutekunst was to cut Cobb on top of Nelson can you think of a louder way to tell Rodgers "F You", we don't care what you want. Not only that how much easier would it be to defend the Packers without Cobb and just Graham and Adams as proven receivers....Common man.

I guess I don't understand your comment on Gutekunst without even a hint on what moves he should be making so he's not such a "Coward".

dobber's picture

"Should he have cut Cobb and Matthews on top of Nelson and created even MORE holes?"

Those who are saying to cut, cut, cut, don't seem to realize that the Packers can cut those players pretty much any time. They could let them all go now and create tremendous holes (and undercut their own bargaining position with street players), or they could cut them when they actually need the cap room due to some other roster move and it would make essentially no difference in the overall cap position of the team given that most of the players they're talking about are on the last year of their deals.

Tundraboy's picture

"They could let them all go now and create tremendous holes (and undercut their own bargaining position with street players),!"

Exactly. Sure tell the world, we took some cash out and were going shopping.

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

Yes, I absolutely would cut Cobb and Matthews as well--and perhaps Bulaga--because I wouldn't be applying quick fixes and 2018-centered moves to a roster which needed overtime to beat Cleveland and Tampa Bay.

We have a pittance of cap space with Rodgers's looming extension and a slow, unathletic roster that forces him to carry too much burden and get hurt.

If we make hard moves now, our rebuild only takes 1 year and we roar back to life in 2019. But if we panic like Gut is doing, we dramatically stretch out the pain by wasting 10's of millions in precious cap space.

Naturally, the immature, instant-gratification moron brigade will rain thumbs-down votes on me, but I don't care. I just want this team to take a hard look at itself and launch a realistic rebuild.

fastmoving's picture

yeahh, AR broke down under the weight of the "too much burden". in this process he got hurt

TT was lethargic all the time.....Gute is always in panic (so not lethargic)

We need ADULT DECISIONS!!! now

everyone has to look at themself! why can not everyone be like me? and I dont care (good for you ALP!!) about the downvotes......Im just here to save the Packers (after I decided that I can not root for them anymore last year, only to come back 3 weeks later) with my smarts and wisdom.

We need ADULT DECISIONS!!! now

The TKstinator's picture

Name calling.
Not splendid.

HankScorpio's picture

"No way we could even think of re-signing Burnett in our pitiful cap condition. I saw this coming a mile away."

Nonsense. They offered Kyle Fuller much more than it would have cost to retain Burnett.

It's more like they did not want to re-sign him. And why would they? He's good but hardly an impact playmaker. He biggest "asset" is his role as QB of the secondary. But those guys looked like they were QB'ed by Brett Hundley more than by Aaron Rodgers.

Part of fixing the defense is moving on from the players & coaches that made it look broken. Burnett has been a "fixture" of a Packer secondary that has had fans complaining for 5+ years.

John Kirk's picture

This news makes me almost as happy as the news AJ Hawk was finally gone.

The best part of Morgan's time here was draft day when we felt we'd scooped the Bears. Chicago supposedly coveted him but we jumped up to get in front of them and "stole" him. It was pretty much downhill from that moment.

I don't trust Josh Jones in coverage. Safety is just another gaping hole. Ha Ha is horrible and unless one of those UDFAs pans out, we're as bad off there as CB. Thank goodness the DL looks good.

Pettine is a great DC, but even he's going to struggle with this cast for his play. Some critically unacclaimed shows coming unless we can land better actors.

dobber's picture

The ongoing inconsistent sentiments:

We suck! Cut players! Slash and burn! It couldn't possibly get any worse!

Oh, no, we have holes! We can't trade player X! We can't let very replaceable players leave!

I think I have whiplash...

worztik's picture

So far Dob, I’m just reading and grinning and not saying anything because what can one say about a bunch of guys that fall under the Packers mantra but, who can’t play football, can’t be coached, can’t learn new things, have absolutely NO potential, make way too much money, are not athletic, have no speed, are all playing out of their natural position, are locker room cancers and feel that they’d rather be playing in a dome? I guess that’s the bottom line of one of the longest sentences in the history of Cheesyheads TV! Oh well, I’m not going to any games this year... why should I with this roster? Hahaha...

dobber's picture

"I guess that’s the bottom line of one of the longest sentences in the history of Cheesyheads TV"

Dougie's got you beat...but only because he refused to use punctuation.

worztik's picture

NICE!!!

CAG123's picture

Can you go back to “Reading and grinning and not saying anything”? Please

worztik's picture

What’s yer problem dipsjit??? Can’t understand what the word “sarcasm” means? You’ve appeared here lately and I wish you’d go away!!! You obviously have a higher impression of yourself than others here!!!!!!

CAG123's picture

Man you’re by far the most annoying person up here. You jump on everyone’s comment saying the most random crap. You’re a weirdo

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

No whiplash from me. Just realism. This is a low-talent roster with an over-burdened cap that needs an overhaul. Quick-fixing this roster for a 2018 run is idiotic. We should target 2019, rather than seeking instant fixes for every hole.

No whiplash here. Just one simple, realistic message.

But hey, the instant-gratification moron brigade hates realism, so let the down votes pour in.

worztik's picture

ALP, It is phenomenal how many Ex GMs read the comments here and respond with such knowledgeable retorts! I, although I think of myself as a GM (Grandiose Meatball), do not pretend to be a know it all... but, I’d like to be one someday! ;~€)

fastmoving's picture

funny that you using the word realistic...really funny

HankScorpio's picture

Just shows that everyone on this board is dripping with their own version of realism.

John Kirk's picture

I think it's perfectly consistent. I'm glad Morgan is gone. His departure creates a hole that needs filling, but I wasn't thrilled by his average filling it. Yet, we have nobody that's sure to replace him but you still have to let him go. What's inconsistent about that?

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

The Fuller contract would have resulted in a major cut--likely Matthews.

One look at the numbers makes that obvious.

HankScorpio's picture

It's far from obvious if you actually look at the numbers. Fuller's cap hit is $6.5 mil this year. The Packers have more than $20 mil of cap space.

worztik's picture

I believe it would have, as well...

worztik's picture

Forced a major cut!!!

GB Jacker's picture

Cap crisis lol! Fans in general just do not seem to understand the way the cap works - same can be said for a large portion of the media. GB has a decent cap situation by all accounts - 20 million ish this year and a boat load more next.

Letting Burnett walk seems to me the right decision, age, injuries and play level were all factors working against him. Let Pettine work with the guys we do have under contract and bring in a couple of FAs and rookies and let him build the defense in his own image - judge these players post-capers.

Still though.... Cap Crisis - what nonsense

EDIT: The reason some teams have a shit load of cap generally points to high roster/front office turnover and talent poor rosters. The idea is to spend the money on your roster, not have a lake full sitting there for a rainy day or a FA desperation splurge. GB has enough to wiggle around and make some pretty big early moves (Wilkerson & Graham) but also not so much that they don't have a few excellent players well paid (Daniels, Adams, Bahk, Bulaga, Rodgers, Cobb, Matthews and Perry all of whom would get more money on the open market). Expect more FA signings to arrive in the next couple of weeks.

Michael Hughes's picture

Agree with you that letting burnett go was sensible. We do have a crisis on our hands though.

Really think they should have sorted out the issues with randall and kept him for this season. Losing a starter on a rookie deal is damaging.

GB Jacker's picture

Hey Michael,

Interested what makes this a 'crisis'? I think if the FO view Randall as a mistake/not a scheme fit then you have to bite the bullet and move on. Getting good compensation for that move is a bonus. We still have plenty of starters/contributors on rookie deals - Allison, Jones, King, Brice, Clark, The RBs, Martinez, Lowry, Ryan - not sure how losing Randall creates a cap crisis - but open to hearing your reasoning....

HankScorpio's picture

If crisis is defined as not being able to overpay for marginal talent, they do have a cap crisis. But so does every team. Overpaying for marginal talent is the start of a downward spiral.

The Packers still have the budget they allocated for signing Kyle Fuller to use on veteran FAs. Now the prices are coming down. This is where the good teams use FA to improve themselves.

worztik's picture

Like I’ve said many times in my life, “fired? You’re firing ME? OK OK but just remember, I’ve been fired from better jobs than this one!!!” Just sayin’...

John Kirk's picture

We have FO turnover and a talent poor roster and a much smaller pool to dip into. Packers are the exception to your "generally".

Our org looked into Allen Robinson and Sammy Watkins. Bears had a much more comfortable cap situation and were able to easily absorb him. If we line up with Geronimo as our 2nd that would be a crisis and I'd say you could look back on the cap as to why.

GB Jacker's picture

We have just had the first front office turnover in the past decade so not sure what you're on about. We do not have a talent poor roster - we won games with Brett Hundley! Are we as talented as some teams, no - but we're talented enough. We have an enviable roster at QB, RB, O-Line, maybe even WR. We have an enviable defensive line depth and reasonable edge players. Most of the teams overspending in free agency are talent poor and thus GMs and coaches are trying to save their jobs with desperation moves. Are Philly, NE, Atlanta, Steelers, Seahawks spending big? No because they have strong rosters already.

I personally think GBs issues has more to do with scheme and coaching than talent deficits. There's a reason Casey and Micah look so good on their new teams - they've not suddenly become more talented.

We were rumoured to have looked into A-Rob and Sammy Watkins - that's not the same as wanting to spend 13-14mill a year on them. If you'd prefer the Bears roster and cap situation then good for you - I'll bet they finish well below us again this year.

I don't think you guys understand what a crisis is either. You cannot have a stud starting at every position, you have weaker parts of your roster that you try to make up for with scheme and coaching. Geronimo is not our number 2 receiver, he'd be 4 behind Adams, Cobb and Graham who will likely be used wide.

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

John, how dare you make sense! Here come the down votes!

Ryan Graham's picture

Michael H, I see why "crisis" comes to mind, but really it's just something GB hasn't dealt with before, at least not in a long time. This is a mere uncomfortable cap situation because Ted usually kept us floating 30-35M above the cap, for whatever reason. the reality of the status BG takes the reigns in is that Ted and McCarthy did not work well together.

McCarthy was loyal to Capers, Lord knows why. He held onto that loyalty for too long and Capers overstayed his welcome by some number of years. Ted was so stubborn to keep on drafting players to plug holes and drafted players to play them out of position - almost exclusively from a soft Pac-12 conference - not to mention all the busts we've seen come through (Sherrod, Harrell, Thornton, Jones, Spriggs, Fackrell, Randall, Rollins, just to name a few) which created depth issues across the board and an aging factor on offense due to neglect.

Right now it feels like chaos trying to right all these wrongs with lasting effects. This is no mere one year project. Patience will be required, and i sincerely hope Rodgers has enough to hang around to see the end of it.

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

We have a low-talent roster that got Rodgers hurt and needed overtime to beat Cleveland and Tampa. We have Rodgers's looming monster extension. We have several old players with big paychecks who have no role past this season.

Yes, we have a cap crisis. Next time, try looking at the total picture, not just your quick-fix dreams of instant gratification and visionless cap management.

HankScorpio's picture

"Yes, we have a cap crisis. Next time, try looking at the total picture, not just your quick-fix dreams of instant gratification and visionless cap management."

The only way a cap crisis is even close to applicable is if you have quick-fix dreams of instant gratification and visionless cap management. They were never going to be able to afford a top of market CB, WR, Edge rusher and OL as some of the more crazy pipe dreams suggested was in order. But that did not mean they could not be active in the off season veteran player market.

The Packers have signed 2 guys so far. They signed Kyle Fuller to a big offer sheet that was matched. They signed Fuller to a deal they were comfortable fitting in their cap in the event the Bears did not match.

They can easily add 2-4 more guys with the kinds of cap numbers that are starting to be more common than during the "crazy money" phase. Given the available players, that won't be transformative but it can help if done right.

That's without any further cap trimming that doesn't bring on cap pain. I believe they should try to re-sign Clay Matthews to an extension that lowers his cap number enough to add yet another bargain bin guy. Hopefully that guy would produce more like Jahri Evans than Ahmad Brooks.

John Kirk's picture

I disagree. I would bet my house the plan was to sign a top tier CB... UNTIL, Brian got a look at the market after it opened. Cap constarained him from moving. Had we had 60 million in cap we would have a top option at CB. I wouldn't have paid some of these prices for most of these guys but I think it's wrong to believe our cap wasn't the overriding factor in our lack of moves at CB.

We didn't add Mo and Jimmy minus letting Jordy go and both have reasonable year 1 cap hits. Very reasonable. So, with very reasonable cap hits Jordy was sacrificed. You don't think someone else gets chopped if that joke Fuller offer came through? If you believe that, you'd have to explain Jordy being chopped. Can't say they didn't want him after the fact. Had they added Fuller and then cut Cobb you couldn't after the fact say they just didn't want Cobb. Multi moving parts with every move affecting a corresponding move BECAUSE OF THE CAP SITUATION.

Finwiz's picture

No I disagree.
They intended on signing a couple of top tier guys, depending on the price and they did that.
Some of that money paid to CB's was stupid, and most won't live up to the expectations.
They'll be fine by Sept.
You weren't going to fix the entire rotation of 4 deep in one off season anyways, especially after you dumped 23.

flackcatcher's picture

Being the voice of reason on a Packer fan site? I SALUTE YOU! (and may God have mercy on your soul......0:)

Bure9620's picture

I don't see how this is a crisis. It's March, we have a draft, there are more lower priced FAs out there. I have to belive BG has a plan. I personally think many teams overpaid for these FA corners. There are trade possibilities too, its really really early, the league year just started, lets watch this play out.

Fordham Ram's picture

"Burnett, who has been dubbed as the "quarterback of the defense," was the most versatile player in the secondary". If this is the case who do we have to replace him. When Burnett was out the secondary was not in synch, guys were out of position and wrong plays were called. What's the plan now? Did his experience not count. Who on the team makes the calls? It can't be Ha Ha, he regressed mightily last year. and showed an incapaciity to be the play caller. I get the sense that someone will be brought in who played for Pettine before, knows Pettine's system well and can call the plays on day one. The only one I see that's left on the FA market who possibly fits this is Darell Revis who played for Pettine for many years, but he's a CB not a safety and not that good anymore. Whoever it is I hope they find a veteran who can fill Morgan's shoes. Can't give the QB role on defense to a newbie, it's a recipe for disaster.

Nick Perry's picture

LOL....The secondary was out of sync, in the wrong position and not running the correct plays WITH Burnett back there too. Just look at the number of TD's given up or the defenses pathetic 3rd down defense to see that.

Bye Morgan...Thank you for your time in GB. Josh Jones and HHCD BETTER be ready because those will be your starters unless they wait and bring in a veteran later. Burnett ISN'T worth a big contract.

GB Jacker's picture

Always imagine NP screaming EVERYTHING WRITTEN IN ALL CAPS!

Fordham Ram's picture

Maybe so Nick, I see your point, but are we now better without him? Unless we find his replacement we just got worse. Nick Collins, where are you?

HankScorpio's picture

They drafted Josh Jones last year to replace Morgan Burnett now.

dobber's picture

You're saying it could get worse?

Burnett is utterly replaceable. He's a SS who needs a serviceable FS playing next to him to be any more that just average. Remember when he was playing next to MD Jennings and Jerron McMillian?

flackcatcher's picture

OH YEAH dobber I remember. That entire season I was screaming AT MY COMPUTER Woodson would have knock that down, tackled that man, intercepted that ball. Only in the final game against the niners did the 'the doctor' play like a NFL DB. Best game of year lost because Hyde drop one that was a clean 'pick six' and put the game away. I remember........

John Kirk's picture

Not better on the field but much better financially. The ratio was too far out of whack to justify Morgan's contract. The ratio was way too heavily weighted on pay over production.

Josh Jones looked dreadful as a S. He's a new NFL hybrid middle box player not a traditional S. I think he's worse than HHCD so we should have quite the pairing back there. If Ha Ha wasn't a first round pick, he'd be gone. His rookie deal keeps them believing the ratio of pay vs. production is acceptable. He should've been shipped out with Damarious but the taker pool had to be smaller.

NitschkeFan's picture

Time for out-of-box thinking. Be bold Gute, trade our #1, #2 and next year's #3 and move up and pick CHUBB. A potential game changer and the Pack would make up for poor DB's with the Pass Rush and best Defensive front in the NFL.

Go Pack!

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

Good idea on Chubb, but that's not enough to get him.

Finwiz's picture

>Burnett ISN'T worth a big contract<

Truer words have never been spoken.
You don't award huge contracts to average players.

PrahaChe's picture

3rd down and anything over 3 yards was an automatic 1st and 10 last year. But again, it's not all placed on the secondary, no pass rush, blow assignments, you can't expect secondary to stay on a guy for more than a few seconds or they will get free. Scheme was another thing, c'mon Capers tried but defense needs a new look. I believe in Josh Jones, he was a beast at NC State and warranted a 2nd round pick after Kevin. Our defensive line has gotten better, mo or no Mo, which should open things up for a LB's to get off blocks and make plays which is how the defense should be anyway. Pick a direction and go for it....Defense may have to rebuild but with 12 picks in a CB crazy draft, we should be fine to pick up some talent.

Rossonero's picture

No surprise here. We haven't heard a peep from McCarthy or Gutekunst about Morgan Burnett since the season ended.

While age, injuries and salary demands make him a cap casualty, his versatility and leadership will be sorely missed on a young roster that keeps getting younger. Thanks for the memories, Morgan.

Since &#039;61's picture

Morgan was the QB of Capers defense. Capers and his defense are gone. Pettine will install a new defense with new play calls. Whoever assumes that role, even if it were Burnett, would need to learn the new calls and terminology.
As for Burnett's experience he helped our young secondary to be one of the worst in the league last season. 7-9 with him, 7-9 without him. Not worth more than $5-7 million AAV for me. Thanks, Since '61

Savage57's picture

That's all the issue boils down to with Burnett and the Packers, similar to what occurred with TW when he went to Cleveland.

Still a productive player, just not at the number the market thinks he's worth.

acuminogold's picture

We have a current mess in our secondary!

Sorry for being negative...I just needed to rant. I'm going to sit back and see how our new GM gets us out of this mess. Let's hope for the best.

scullyitsme's picture

Omg, what a bunch of doom and gloom losers. Glad I don’t come here much anymore, the comment section has been taken over. Isn’t josh jones bigger, faster, stronger than Morgan Burnett? Wasn’t he drafted just to take over so we didn’t have to pay Morgan? What he lacks in experience he makes up for in talent. With a hell of a lot higher ceiling. But hey, cry and whine all you want just cause.

RCPackerFan's picture

lol.

I agree with most of what you said on this. Well said.

John Kirk's picture

Yes, scully... Damarious Randall and or Rollins were drafted to take over for Casey Hayward. Wasted a 1st and 2nd trying to replace a 2nd that didn't need replacing.

That's a 1st and two 2nds to have nothing at the position and the need to use another 1st and 2nd in King and Jones to fix it. Those guys might bust leaving us empty after two 1sts and three 2nds...and we're all believing more high picks are coming and needed in the secondary. Train wreck if there ever was one but no reason to panic. There's no high quality CBs left but we'll just draft our way out because Brian is new?

Finwiz's picture

Good counter-point argument.
Tough to disagree. I believe in critical thinking. Hopefully the new management does as well.

Handsback's picture

Burnett was good against the run, but weak against the pass. If you want improvement.....you have to change the people and while I like Burnett, he needs to be replaced.

EdsLaces's picture

Literally everyone forgets how good Brice was getting before the injury...

dobber's picture

It depends on who you're listening to...Damarious Randall would beg to differ.

lebowski's picture

Eric Reid would be a nice signing right about now.

dobber's picture

Wait for it....

I half envision that late scene from "Trading Places" on the stock market floor as Dan Aykroyd and Eddie Murphy calmly wait for the prices on FCOJ to hit their level, then buy it up and make a killing. That's the optimist in me, anyway...

Finwiz's picture

That would be "Trading Places"........., if you're referring to the movie.

dobber's picture

Oh, crap, you're right! Making that fix...

PrahaChe's picture

Josh Jones was a rookie last year, same as King and both weren't starters, Ha Ha, Rollins and yes, you have a young secondary, but honestly, there are no other CB's to even chase and Randall wasn't good for the locker Room. Ha-Ha takes over the leadership role in the secondary and with Brice and some other guys they have, they will be fine. We can't forget, our defense was so bad, because our offense couldn't move the ball with Hundley. Which meant horrible field position and our defense stayed on the field with 3 and outs, left and right. With Rodgers, we were 4-1 going into Min before Rodgers got hurt. The draft is full of CB's but not many EDGE players. We take an EDGE rusher, probably Davenport in the 1st, then CB, WR, CB, etc, etc... I agree, our defense needs help, but there is no one else left really, maybe EJ Gaines or DRC since Breeland can't pass a physicall but at this point, it's a wrap for FA.

lou's picture

Burnett was a solid starter/leader who represented the team well off the field as well, very few players, even star players (see Jordy Nelson) get a 3rd Contract. The team and the player each held up their end of the 2 contracts, I wish him well in Pittsburgh. Unfortunately here is my most vivid memory of Burnett;

When Green Bay Packers safety Morgan Burnett picked off Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson with just over five minutes to go in the fourth quarter of Sunday's NFC Championship Game, it didn't seem like a big deal that he gave himself up after a few yards.

After all, the Packers held a 19-7 lead and were giving quarterback Aaron Rodgers the football around midfield. No need to risk fumbling on the return, right?

Looking back at the play, it may have been the start of Green Bay's collapse. It gave the impression that the Packers thought the game was over.

Spoiler alert: It wasn't.

CheesyTex's picture

Right on, lou. Needed aggressive mentality ala Doug Petersen in SB.

Finwiz's picture

One of the WORST plays in the history of the GB Packers.

Kind of like Brent Fullwood spiking the ball at the 1 yd line, on the way to a kickoff return for a TD. Talk about stupid.
He of the FOUR wonderlic.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

I'll be interested to see what Burnett signs for. GB could sign him if they wanted to without too much concern. We could still pick up a speed WR and Twill and House in addition to Burnett, though things would be getting tight.

If I were concerned with just 2018, I wouldn't hesitate to re-sign Burnett. I am concerned with 2019 and 2020 though, so he'd have to be in the $7M AAV area. I am prepared to roll with Josh Jones, the other safeties, and our draft picks.

lou's picture

So much of Jones role will depend on the scheme of the new DC, it is anybodies guess now if he stays at Safety or moves to LB. I find it interesting that the Packers believed Hayward was only a slot CB and could not play on the boundary but he became All Pro on the boundary. Same with Hyde, they played him as a slot CB and Buffalo moved him to safety and he was a Pro Bowler. Did anyone pick up that Dorsey is moving Randall to Safety. Sounds like Caper's was playing a lot of DB's in the wrong spots.

HankScorpio's picture

Ian Rapoport says 3 yrs, "close to $14.5 mil"

That's nothing close to the Spotrac estimation, which always struck me as way too high.

PrahaChe's picture

Sign Tramon Williams and you instantly get a player with low risk, high upside, and can bring leadership to a secondary that he gets on day 1. But BG needs to hurry the hell on up...and if u can sign both Williams and keep House...then you can take the foot off the gas during the 1st round and get an EDGE rusher.

cpitt's picture

The only big time play Burnett ever made was picking Russ in the NFC Championship game and then he slid down like a little bitch and we lost a trip to the super bowl in the most epic collapse in franchise history. The guy straight up just doesn't make any game changing plays. Give Josh Jones at least this season to play and grow before we completely write him off.

Finwiz's picture

That will forever be my memory of 42, that cemented my image of him as a moron football player. I don't care WHO told him to go down.
No instincts as a football player. Too robotic.

Spock's picture

Lots of good discussion today, especially about the QB of a defensive scheme we will no longer have. There should be some decent draft compensation next year for Morgan if his salary is up there. Heck, this time of year was mostly crickets for years and now people are getting ulcers over some of these moves! Just will have to wait and see how this all plays out. Hopefully, it will all be "Gute".

dobber's picture

Wasn't Graham a FA (and not a cut)? If that's the case, won't the signing of Graham nullify the signing of Burnett and leave them close to break-even in the compensatory pick formula (meaning no compensatory picks, yet)?

Spock's picture

dobber, Good point. I forgot that.

cheesehead1's picture

Not upset about letting Burnett go. IMO, not worth the money and he was hurt quite often. I know Gute must have a plan for the CB situation, but only he knows. Lots of time to sort this out.

4thand1's picture

Funny, just yesterday I posted nobody seems to be beating down the door for Burnett and whala. You can go on any teams blogs and find the same type of posters freaking out about their teams. This will free up more money for the dreaded cap. We are set at QB, RB, DL, OL is in pretty good shape, WR TE is in good shape and LBer isn't bad either. Secondary, we all know what we have and what we need. Hopefully we get a vet at CB in FA and draft BAP. Gute will do his best and he seems to be doing fine IMO, better than fine because he's testing the waters and making plays. Let him do his job.

al bundy's picture

Gut is seeming more like Ted T then Ted T. Its obvious his marching orders or they picked him because he mirrored Ted: cheap ball, let guys go, get rid of undesirables, stay away from malcontents, find FA's who were let go and on the cheap and hope you can fill holes with 4,5,6 round draft picks and undrafteds.
This team has gotten worse since Gut not better.
Sheldon Rich and Cousins versus Grahm and Wilkerson.

Finwiz's picture

Not sure I agree.
They were active on day one, with 1st tier Free Agents.
Ted typically didn't do that.
The jury's still out, so it might be a tad early to cast Gutey in the same mold as the grey fox.

4thand1's picture

you suck

stockholder's picture

I see the whole NFL paying for marginal talent now! Mathews and Cobb are not over-paid for whats going on. The grass is NOT greener on the other side. Seriously, I believe the best chance to win the division is not cut players that will make just as much money with a new team. The old guys will play their heart out for just one shot more at a Ring. Their already millionaires. So try to be sensible with your likes or dislikes. Burnett was not going to be resigned with Jones coming in. He made his bed in GB when they took this route. TT wanted comp picks. Gute is going to want CAP. The Cap for A-Rod. Until A-Rod is signed don't expect much. It's time you realize you can't have it both ways. This team needs new player leadership. Playmakers! Sign House. / Sign Williams, and lets move on to the draft. Their not the best, but their not busts either. They know what it takes to cover yet. And if the packers get that pass rush going again. This secondary will get us in the play-offs.

cheesehead1's picture

How much cap space will we save on Burnett?

stockholder's picture

More than he was worth = 8 mil.

Lphill's picture

As far as Randall and Rollins as someone mentioned earlier, I believe both of them were converted safeties in college, maybe TT should have drafted actual corners instead and maybe now the Packers secondary would look pretty decent. But TT liked experiments and taking players to learn a new position, I don't know if other teams use that philosophy, I don't believe Ron Wolf did.

Finwiz's picture

Drafting guys and converting them was a big problem with the grey fox.
Basketball players, safeties to corners...ect., ect.
Not very sound judgement.

HankScorpio's picture

Except when it wasn't. Hyde was a CB that should have been converted to Safety and never was. Until he got to Buffalo.

Finwiz's picture

He played all over in the nickel and dime packs, but Capers system didn't fit. Blame the system

lou's picture

Just in, he signed for $14.5M for 3 years, well below estimated $10M or his agents number he wanted $8.5 annually.

Cubbygold's picture

The way I read that is... Gute made the right call in letting him walk, rather than letting him play out his deal. If that's all he could get on the open market, then clearly theres more room for improvement than many fans might think. Hope Pettine has the perfect replacement in mind, and gute gets him

Lare's picture

That's correct, Burnett could have been re-signed rather easily, but if he's not in their plans what's the point?

If Pettine says it's time to move on, it's time to move on.

billybobton's picture

hmmm not one of the posters from yesterday here with the news of the new 10M contract MB was going to get

Does PITT need a back up S or LB?
who knows
who cares

billybobton's picture

but the answer appears to be

Per NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport, the two sides agreed to terms on a three-year pact worth close to $14.5 million. The team later confirmed the deal.

this is a far cry from 10M a year, lots of posters here should now wonder how they can be so wrong

he was guy, getting guy pay

losing him hurts nothing there was no appreciable difference in the D with him on or off the field, none

he simply did not matter

Finwiz's picture

EXXXX----
ACTLY.
J-A-G.

Mojo's picture

The Pack probably could have had Jordy & Burnett back for less than $5 mil each but declined both times.

Clearly there's a different set of talent evaluators in the FO.

I'm OK with a bit of roster churn.

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