Rashan Gary Off to a Fast Start After Excellent Camp

After an excellent training camp, Rashan Gary has carried that momentum into the regular season, regularly getting after the quarterback. 

With Za'Darius Smith and Preston Smith ahead of him on the depth chart, the Green Bay Packers' 2019 12th overall pick, Rashan Gary, was used sparingly during his rookie season. In fact, he played in just 23.46 percent of Green Bay's total defensive snaps last year, to be exact. 

This, of course, rubbed many the wrong way. A large portion of Packer nation was upset with the selection, to begin with, and now the12th overall pick was playing less than a quarter of the defensive snaps. But believe it or not, GM Brian Gutekunst and the Packers had a plan.

Gary has all the physical tools to be a highly-effective pass-rusher, but what he lacked was refinement. In other words, his technique was still quite raw. So while some saw this selection as a wasted pick, the Packers saw it as a luxury. Rather than throwing an ill-prepared Gary into the mix, they had the time to develop him and hopefully, raise his ceiling in the process. 

Last season we saw Gary progress as the year went along, and in a stretch of games from Weeks 14 through 16, he recorded a sack and five total pressures in just 27 pass-rush attempts. No, that isn't a large sample size by any means, but a pressure rate of almost 19 percent is nothing to turn your nose up at either. 

Entering the 2020 campaign, Gary was one of the stars of training camp. There was rarely a practice that went by where we didn't hear about him making a play or two in the backfield. At 276 pounds, he was up a little bit in weight this year but looked slimmer overall after an offseason of intense workouts. By all accounts, his technique was much improved, and in the little we've seen so far, you can really tell that he is much better with his hands. 

However, performing in practice and performing in a game are two very different things. But Gary has clearly carried that momentum over from the practice field into the first two games of Green Bay's season. 

In Week 1 against Minnesota, Gary wouldn't record a sack, but he led the team in pressures with three. Then against Detroit, he would post 1.5 sacks, two quarterback hits, and four total pressures. Gary has also been a huge factor in the two interceptions that the Green Bay defense has come away with this season. In both instances, it was Gary who got in the faces of Kirk Cousins and Matthew Stafford as each throw resulted in an interception for the Packers. 

As we saw on Sunday, the sacks are going to start coming for Gary, but what's even more important is that he is regularly affecting the play by creating pressure. As OLB Coach, Mike Smith passionately points out, sacks are great, but he'll take consistent pressure every time (via Packers Wire):

“You have to look at how they are affecting the quarterback. When they are in the game, are they affecting the quarterback, with the pressures? Sacks are important, don’t get me wrong, they just can’t believe that’s the only way to be successful, because you’ll have a disappointing room.”

In a different conversation with reporters, Smith would once again bring up the importance of disrupting the play:

“I care about pressure, affecting the quarterback, that’s the No. 1 thing. I’ll take a guy that does his job play after play after play after play, being consistent and have zero sacks, but does his job and affects the quarterback.”

I've said this before, but the draft is about projecting who the player will become, not who the player is at that moment. And Gary projects to be one heck of a player.

With The Smiths on the roster, the Packers have had the - and I'm going to use this word again - luxury of bringing Gary along slowly and developing him, rather than leaning on a rookie right away as they did so often in the Ted Thompson era.

Both LaFleur and Mike Smith will vouch for Gary's work ethic, that never should be in question, but one word that was always brought up when Gary was mentioned was "consistency." Well, through training camp and the Packers' first two games, it looks like he's found that consistency because Gary is off to an excellent start. 

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Born and raised in Green Bay, WI and I still call it home. After my family, watching the Packers, sharing my opinions on the team through my writing and interacting with other fans is my greatest passion. You can find me on Twitter at @Paul_Bretl. 
 

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PatrickGB's picture

September 21, 2020 at 12:44 pm

When he was selected I wondered if he was a good fit. I saw him, perhaps, as a hybrid OLB/DE. I was not comforted by his lack of productivity in college. But then I remembered that Clark took a bit of time to adjust to the NFL. I still saw him as a “one trick pony” with just a bull rush. Yet as last season went on I began to see good things from him. Still, I would never put him in pass coverage. My hope is that he continues his upward climb. I think he will.

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Bure9620's picture

September 21, 2020 at 01:22 pm

Gary basically two gapped in college though, he single handedly wrecked wisconsins offense by collapsing the pocket, that is not stat position

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September 21, 2020 at 03:16 pm

Gary was a down lineman at Michigan. Converting to OLB is not a small change (see: Nick Perry and Datone Jones) and he needed time and coaching at his new position. He is developing more quickly than I expected and I am very happy about that. Hopefully his ascent continues and he becomes a complete OLB.

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Coldworld's picture

September 21, 2020 at 06:07 pm

And we have been through his former coach and others including key teammates explaining his role in college endlessly. Yet still it seems not to be understood by all. He had a lot to learn despite physical talent galore and he seems from what the Packers say, to be excessively hard working. Looks like it is starting to click. If it does and you add in that talent and work ethic he could be a major steal in hindsight. Let’s hope so.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 21, 2020 at 10:41 pm

He could be more effective if Pettine took off his gloves. He is as multiple as Za.

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Stroh's picture

September 22, 2020 at 11:11 pm

I don't think they want to put too much on his plate. They are allowing him to become proficient at his base position before adding other roles for him to learn. Its just a continuation of his planned development. It'll come, probably next year. They don't want to overload him and cause him to have to think thru his responsibilities. Keep him playing fast in the roles he has and gradually add as he's comfortable.

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September 21, 2020 at 01:02 pm

I watched him closely during his mu days when playing the badgers. He seemed to be just a guy.
WOW has his game improved. Powerful, fast and strong. As stated, if not a sack, he's even finishing with real pressure, not running wildly past the qb like CMIII did for so many years. GPG

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Bure9620's picture

September 21, 2020 at 01:27 pm

Turn on the film from a couple years ago. I beg to differ, Gary basically 2 gapped from the nose, he destroyed Wisconsins O-line and basically destroyed their offense

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scullyitsme's picture

September 21, 2020 at 01:05 pm

There’s a trend on this site and others to try and I told you so about the packers receivers and Gary after two games. Which I don’t understand. Gary and the wide outs other than Adams, where not good last year, they just weren’t. That doesn’t mean I and others aren’t Hoping they’ll improve and be good. Both can be right, they sucked last year and are improving/ surprisingly good so far this year.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

September 21, 2020 at 02:25 pm

We told you so. :)

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Jonathan Spader's picture

September 21, 2020 at 02:51 pm

I think the difference with CHTV is rhat posters are more willing to eat crow. On other sites/forums/etc they post a TON of predictions and focus on which 1 or 2 out of 200 are right and ignore all the wrong ones.

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CoachDino's picture

September 21, 2020 at 03:38 pm

Hey I gave you a thumbs up Scully, I'm so tempted to be I told you so but it's not cool to do, which isn't the real reason why I don't lol, its because of what you pointed out. It's just 2 games. Games which I believe at this time the packers outclassed the opponent. that said, they weapons, scheme, draft picks, Gary etc. all I have shown to be good moves by the Front office. If they can do it once, they should be able to repeat the process. Maybe not to such an extreme but it has no doubt be shown to exist. Now as they play better teams, teams make adjustments, etc we get to find out how just How Good those choices were.

Heck, I've also been a huge advocate for jace and though it's still early that one looks rough. I think that goes to a good lesson. Not all decisions work out, even if many of the doubters "eat crow" as referred to on this site, they too will be correct to an extent. Nothing is 100%.

A stud dlineman in round 1 and 4 sure sounds good right now. How much help it would immediately be is debatable and the Love pick will take years to evaluate. So its nothing more than speculation. But that's what we all enjoy doing and it would be boring if we all just agreed with each other and never made mistakes.

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Coldworld's picture

September 21, 2020 at 06:14 pm

Most players do take time, even early first rounders. I’m baffled by the brigade who seem to think that this isn’t the norm. It simply is for most players. Look at Adams, Collins, even Rodgers. Yet always we see irate comments about so and so sucks we should cut him after a season. Well, Savage is another one who is still learning. Sternberger had a bad game not one that should end his career. Adams cost the packers games early on: dropped more than he caught in some. Now look at him. Patience is essential.

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Oppy's picture

September 21, 2020 at 08:08 pm

You didn't watch Gary's (Admittedly few) snaps in 2019 then.

He looked very promising when he was on the field.

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Since'61's picture

September 22, 2020 at 09:40 am

Agree Oppy, has to me he was blazing fast off the snap. He is still learning how to play his position but he is getting better. He could become a legit force in this league for years to come.
I think many forget that he came out as a junior. That makes a difference as well. If not for that this would be his rookie season.
Let’s see how he does against the Saints. The entire team is facing their first true test of the season. Thanks, Since ‘61

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MarkinMadison's picture

September 21, 2020 at 09:59 pm

I would say there is a tendency by some on every site to trash a young player before he has had a chance to develop. For me, it's not so much an "I told you so." I don't remember telling anyone that I KNEW Gary was going to be great. It is more about, "OK, if you've been trashing him, own up." Because the kid is balling right now. So give him credit.

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ricky's picture

September 21, 2020 at 01:07 pm

Patience is a virtue. Just as many fans wanted Davante Adams after a down second year, there was a contingent claiming that Gary was a "bust" because he didn't set the league on fire his rookie year. Same with MVS- yes, he needs to work on his hands (I'd suggest bringing in James Jones to work with him, since he overcame a similar problem), but he's also showing big play ability. Different players get better at different rates. Patience doesn't mean indulgence, though. M. Adams has not shown anything in three years. Time to say goodbye.

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Demon's picture

September 21, 2020 at 02:20 pm

And take Burks with him

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Thegravedigger's picture

September 21, 2020 at 11:28 pm

M adams was getting pancaked and lifted straight into the ground against the lions. Def goodbye.

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September 22, 2020 at 12:05 am

It's too bad we are thin and weak at DL. Maybe when Clark returns, Montravius will be released. Disappointing for a 3rd rounder.

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September 22, 2020 at 06:58 am

You are spot on, Ricky---get Jones on speed dial

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murf7777's picture

September 21, 2020 at 01:11 pm

Yes, he has 1.5 sacks and quite a few pressures, of which two of those pressures ended up with an INT by Ja Alexander and Sullivan. Not bad for a guy who is playing part time. As PatrickGB said about his development. You could see this guy coming on the 2nd half of last year and this year, he looks leaner, stronger and has added a couple of pass rushing moves. I'm not sure how he would do in pass coverage. He did some of it last year, but don't think he did much in College so, he would need some training I suspect.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

September 21, 2020 at 02:54 pm

Why do we need Gary to cover? We need help stopping the run not the pass. I'm hoping Gary can be a run stuffer/pass rusher.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 21, 2020 at 05:51 pm

So he becomes a complete player? So the DC can use him as a chess piece to try to confuse OL assignments and RBs assigned to pick up blitzers? Everyone knew Perry would be rushing: that limited Capers ability to get exotic. Having two keys instead of one (Preston) is big. As a rookie folks made fun of Martinez' ability to blitz, but he got much better at it with time.

Just yesterday Aaron Nagler bemoaned how predictable the defense is in their drops. He wasn't alone in that lament. If you want to have genius DCs they have to have players who can do more than one thing. If Gary can't drop into coverage, predictability increases.

It is fair to note that plenty of players have had fine careers as one trick ponies. Several players like Quinn who are simply pass rushers.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 21, 2020 at 10:46 pm

Bruce Smith didn't drop in zone, he zoned in on the QB and running backs.

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Stroh's picture

September 22, 2020 at 11:23 pm

He'll never be asked to drop in coverage, so don't even consider that as part of his development. Does JJ Watt drop? No. Does Cameron Jordan drop? No. Forget him dropping in coverage, he won't be asked to do it.

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murf7777's picture

September 21, 2020 at 01:27 pm

After two games, and watching his progress in the latter part of last year, we don't need to question if he is good any longer, but more importantly, how do we get him more playing time.

I'd think it will come from the Smith Bro's playing a bit less. Except on passing downs, neither the smith bro's or Gary is big enough to play in the middle. Rotating the three will keep them fresh in the 4th quarter when many games are decided.

My only question about his ability right now is whether he becomes a Pro bowler or a really good starter in his career.

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Stroh's picture

September 23, 2020 at 12:00 am

Z regularly lines up inside on passing downs to rush the QB. That is something Gary will gradually start doing as well at some point. They won't be asked to play inside on run downs, only for pass rushing. That is a way of getting the Smith's and Gary all on the field simultaneously.

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Razer's picture

September 21, 2020 at 01:32 pm

I was not a fan of the Gary pick, particularly after I heard Gutekunst say that they "fell in love with him". Didn't show much consistently in college so it shouldn't be a big surprise that the same has held true to this point. He could keep improving and I hope he does because he is expected to take over when the "Smith's" expire. When Gary consistently shows up against the better O-lines, I will believe the sales pitches but I am not buying based on the Vikes and Lions O-lines. Saw a lot of the same flashes with Nick Perry.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

September 21, 2020 at 02:34 pm

He wasn't used the same way in college, so that doesn't really seem relevant. And his college coaches praised his work ethic and attitude and said he was part of the reason Chase Winovich was so successful. And then he had a shoulder injury and missed some real time his last college season.

To say he "didn't show much consistently" in the NFL is not very accurate. As the article points out, he played sparingly his rookie year; with Gutey and the coaches teaching him and letting him come along slowly behind the Smith Bros. No reason to do it any other way last year. And in two games this year, he's showing what he can do. He worked extremely hard in the offseason by all accounts and it is showing up on the field. It's fine if you think he's not shown much b/c of the suspect O-lines, but just remember he did pretty darn well against the Packers offensive line in training camp and they are not suspect.

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CAG123's picture

September 21, 2020 at 05:42 pm

Gary walked so Chase and Devin Bush could run.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 21, 2020 at 05:57 pm

That's fair. It is also fair to note that Gary didn't learn pass rush techniques despite playing for a big-time college for years. Glad he works hard, now he has to learn more technique and how to drop into coverage, which his measurables suggest he should be able to do.

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arizonayahoo07@gmail.com's picture

September 21, 2020 at 01:55 pm

I am not used to seeing packer blowouts I am looking forward to Nawlins.. There should be a very interesting game. Brees versus Rodgers.. Both Defenses will be pumped up.. And who ever wins will be considered top contender.. ADAMS /CLARK better be available. But GARY is amazing, and his mentors will be looking over their shoulders.. But Pettine will be on top of his game.. so Lafleur can focus on the offense..

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bjkdad44's picture

September 21, 2020 at 03:55 pm

Hope you’re right

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 21, 2020 at 10:48 pm

Pack by ten.

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arizonayahoo07@gmail.com's picture

September 21, 2020 at 01:57 pm

Go Pack go.. This is going to be a tough season,,,

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Jonathan Spader's picture

September 21, 2020 at 01:58 pm

Joey Bosa only had 1 sack on Patrick Mahomes but if you watched the Chiefs and Charger game Bosa dominated. He consistently was pressuring Mahomes and wrecking their offense. There's a lot more to being an OLB than sacks they're just easier to track. It's all about being disruptive. Hopefully Gary can continue to progress and live up to his draft status.

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CAG123's picture

September 21, 2020 at 05:41 pm

EXACTLY! It’s the reason Kyler Fackrell’s 10 sack season wasn’t overly impressive and why they let him walk yes he can be schemed free but could he consistently disrupt or pressure the QB? No he couldn’t. If Gary is a disruptive force this season and “only” gets 6-8 sacks it’s a successful year especially considering he’s already been responsible for two picks.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 21, 2020 at 06:04 pm

Pro football Reference tracks QB hits (my go-to stat since it is objective) and pressures. Joey Bosa had 31 QB hits, a reasonable percentage of which he turned into sacks (11.5) and 54 pressures, per PFR.

Going to PFR is an extra but necessary step since the media mindlessly babbles on only about sacks. That's true.

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baldski's picture

September 21, 2020 at 11:35 pm

Absolutely agree!

Everybody was trashing Gary after his selection and I happened to catch a program with Chris Sims and another football guy some days later. This guy agreed with the selection because Gary is off the charts in athleticism. He said Gary was chosen for his ability to be DISRUPTIVE. Those words stuck with me. He said the same thing our OLB coach says about sacks and pressures. Getting pressure is more important. Be Disruptive.

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dblbogey's picture

September 22, 2020 at 12:08 am

Sorry to see Bosa tore his ACL. Chargers got hit hard this week injury wise.

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dobber's picture

September 22, 2020 at 07:51 am

Wrong Bosa.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 21, 2020 at 03:46 pm

I literally yelled "Not Gary" at my TV right before the pick. LOL

I am enjoying him proving me wrong. I hope he keeps it up.

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September 21, 2020 at 02:43 pm

I liked the pick from the beginning, he was the number 1 high school prospect , he will only get better with experience if only we had a beast inside linebacker then the defense would be a top 10 or better .

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September 21, 2020 at 03:37 pm

How many supposed Packer fans were calling him a bust last year. How many people were calling MVS and the rest of the receivers a bust. It takes awhile for even first rounders to play as fast as is required and some positions even longer. Really happy for him and watched some of the great plays he made yesterday. Totally expect him to have the odd off day as that is part of becoming a pro. If we would have selected a first round receiver would he have performed well this year.
So far our rounds 2 through 6 have played well when they were called upon and isnt that a sign for the future.

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September 21, 2020 at 03:45 pm

Another point to be made is, yes the players have gotten better but on offense the scheme is working. Arod is working the scheme. Are lazard and MVS so much better this year or are they so much more open? probably both. My point is that the scheme and the 2nd year in it have a IMO big part in the improvement we are seeing on offense. Like most things is a collective of factors and not just 1 thing.

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September 22, 2020 at 08:28 am

Coach, I agree and if I might add it seems Arod is more in tune with the scheme. I love seeing the long play action pass as well as pre snap movement. I thought in pre season if Rodgers follows the scheme he will have a good chance for MVP and do something really special.

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Minniman's picture

September 21, 2020 at 03:53 pm

Paul, perhaps a rhetorical question here, do you think that the fact that Gary has 2 superior OLB's in front of him is helping to lift his game - both by example and influence?

One criticism of Gary coming out of college was his consistency (leading some to say that he could take plays [and stretches] off from time to time). Do you think that Z and Preston have exemplified that that is NOT how the NFL works and Gary has responded?

I know that it sounds kind of obvious, but seeing close-up day-in-day-out how REAL elite players conduct themselves will lift those around them (irrespective of who they are)....... and these guys were mid-round draftees, so there's no fake draft spot superiority complexes for them.

Anyway, I'm eagerly waiting to see how they play in the Saints game before I get too excited.

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September 21, 2020 at 09:51 pm

I’m not sure that he took plays off in college. In my review I didn’t see that. When it comes to ambition and drive normally a person doesn’t need to learn, they have it in their DNA. I’m sure he has learned things from Smith bro’s but ambition I doubt is one of them, just incorrect scout report.

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September 21, 2020 at 10:54 pm

He faced constant double teams and three man schemes against his Edge. That's why Winovich ran free and the
other LBs tallied more hits as teams ran away from his area.

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September 22, 2020 at 01:16 am

Murf, thanks, on re-read I see how my comment could be construed as ‘he could be lazy at times’, so I’ll rephrase. Where I was coming from with the Smiths was their physical and mental preparation and how they are able to approach and overcome adversity - from nutrition, to study, to practice and in-game setbacks etc. he seems more mature and focused on his job this year. I don’t doubt that Z Smith benefited from his time under the wing of t-sizzle, which made his ceiling higher than originally anticipated (you don’t expect 4th rounders to be the border line pro bowler that he’s become)

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September 23, 2020 at 12:08 am

I'm sure the Smiths are showing Gary how to be a professional. That goes without saying, honestly. What you mentioned really falls under the broader context of being a professional.

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September 21, 2020 at 04:28 pm

The picture becomes clearer now. They signed two savvy vets in the Smiths last season and Gary basically was given a year to learn under these two along with seeing the game from the sidelines most of the season. The coaching has also played a major role in what we are seeing now. If he stays healthy he will be a flat out pain for most OL and the QB. With his size and speed; dude can become scary to defend.

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September 21, 2020 at 10:55 pm

And one of the savvy vets will be traded next year.

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September 21, 2020 at 05:12 pm

The Smiths were signed to 4 year contracts that can be "escaped from" after 2 years. With the emergence of Gary coupled with a declining cap do we cut Preston Smith next year? It may be a way to afford Bahk and Jones.

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September 21, 2020 at 06:20 pm

P Smith has trade value one would think. However, he is our primary cover option and good at it. That’s not Z’s or Gary’s forte. Unless one of the youngsters is a premier talent who emerges, losing P Smith might have more impact than you seem to suggest. Z is more analogous to Gary. For me it’s going to take a lot of draft capital to want to do that, not Just cap benefit.

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September 21, 2020 at 07:06 pm

Shooter,
I get that you are just posing a question for the sake of discussion. But I think it would be an epic misstep to trade Z. Smith or P. Smith unless getting a huge haul in return.

Our D is predicated on getting disruption in the backfield to help pressure the QB and force more incompletes and INTs. Ride the 3 horses we have to SBs, don’t weaken our elite position group for the next 3 yrs. However when we need to resign the Smiths 2 1/2 yrs from now, likely some changes will happen and one gets resigned depending on other internal developing players.

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September 22, 2020 at 07:57 am

The Packers brass seems to really like what they have in their OLB depth, all the way down to Galeai on the practice squad. Never say never, but I would be reluctant to move the Smiths in that the impact their arrival had on the defense and the locker room--not just in terms of productivity, but in attitude--can't be understated. I you're going to make a move of that sort on leaders of this type, you need to be really sure...

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September 21, 2020 at 05:18 pm

Since we were wrong about Gary what other youngsters can we bash? Sternberger seems obvious and how about Savage. That guy is pathetic.

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September 21, 2020 at 05:34 pm

I can’t lie I was against the pick not because I thought he sucked but just like many of us I was tired of the position switch thing (Perry,Jones, Randall) it just kept not working out.

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September 21, 2020 at 07:48 pm

I hated the pick. I was wrong. Glad I'm eating it and I hope he continues to make me eat more humble pie.

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September 21, 2020 at 08:12 pm

Gary was a surprise to me. He had three pretty good guys ahead of him and didn’t get on the field a lot but he looks good. Obviously, edge pressure is really a priority to the GM and he added three of them last year

When you look at how many of the players on our defense who’ll be around for a few years......it boggles the mind.

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September 21, 2020 at 09:34 pm

I remember getting bashed when I told so many to step away from the ledge with Davante Adams way back when. I was told I was smoking crack because I said he would replace Jordy Nelson as the #1. I had zero issues with the Gary pick or any of the picks this last draft. I actually look forward to seeing what love can do in about his 4th year. Hopefully no sooner than that. I openly bashed MVS as being hopeless. I hope he proves me wrong. I was crazy excited about savage but he hasn't flashed much so far in his career. I loved rollins, ty montgomery, and j'mon Moore, but none of those guys made the leap. I also loved Micah hyde and Casey hayward even though so many on here turned on them. I didn't think Blake martinez was the problem. I'm still not convinced that he is/was. Moral of the story? It's a crapshoot. We all have opinions. Enjoy the ride.

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September 21, 2020 at 09:57 pm

Pulp, and you had the benefit of watching them in the NFL. Just goes to show us how tough it is to draft a player from college. Also, a crap shoot!

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September 21, 2020 at 11:58 pm

Crap shoot , so true. The draft especially. Chris Christl used to say "call me in 3 years, I'll let you know then" when asked what he thought about the draft.

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September 21, 2020 at 10:08 pm

On a side note, Raiders are kicking Saints butts. Ther going to be angrier than a hornets nest Sunday Night. We will have to have our A game. It will be a true test of the Packs abilities. GPG

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September 21, 2020 at 10:58 pm

Brees is not in his prime.

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September 22, 2020 at 07:07 am

I don't expect sacks at NOLA----Brees gets the ball out quick so it will be more about coverage against his targets and early pressure---he's fairly short so pressure will help a lot

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September 22, 2020 at 08:02 am

Saints are not the same team without Thomas, but they're the most complete team the Packers will have seen so far. Good early season measuring stick game.

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September 22, 2020 at 09:27 am

I've seen quiet a bit of space watching the broadcast between our CB's vs lions and vikings WR's. No real blown coverages (kinda), just a lot of easy completions. The 4th quarter TD from the lions and the thielan 37 yard td were pretty close to blown coverages.

But the saints hit everything in the middle of the field around the 5 yard line. We have to turn up the pressure from the CB's and we need a lot better play from the safeties. I can't tell if the lions 4th quarter TD was on amos or alexander. It didn't look like cover 3 unless alexander was freelancing a little and drawn up. But I think there would have to be a lot of robber to help deal with what the saints do.

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September 22, 2020 at 07:57 am

Along with his otherworldly physical gifts Gary seems like a really good kid, works hard, polite, motivated, good team guy.
It’s great that he’s a Packer!

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September 22, 2020 at 08:36 am

That’s why I can’t understand why people were saying he takes plays off. When watching his tape from college I just didn’t see him taking plays off. And comments from teammates didn’t say that either. One pundit states it on social media and it becomes a rumor people take and run with.

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