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Philadelphia Eagles Demonstrate Importance of Smart Free Agency Usage

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Philadelphia Eagles Demonstrate Importance of Smart Free Agency Usage

Nick Foles. Alshon Jeffery. Torrey Smith. Chris Long. Stefan Wisniewski.  LeGarrette Blount. Patrick Robinson. Chance Warmack.

What do these guys have in common, apart from being Philadelphia Eagles?

Every one of them is a veteran player who came to Philly as a free agent in the 2017 offseason. That’s not even accounting for Jay Ajayi, who came to the team in a trade from the Miami Dolphins.

There are plenty of examples in recent years of teams that made notable free agent acquisitions that put them over the top. But outside of Alshon Jeffery and maybe Chris Long, who is on the back end of his career, none of these guys made any headlines when they signed with the team. Yet they all still played a crucial role in bringing the Eagles to their third Super Bowl.

What’s more, many of these signings didn’t cost a whole lot.

Alshon Jeffery was by far the most expensive player, but he was essentially given a “prove it” deal, with a $1 million guaranteed base salary, $7.75 million signing bonus and just over $5 million in workout and incentive clauses. For a player of his caliber, that’s a solid deal, and his play this season earned him a four-year contract extension in December.

Among the other contracts:

  • Three years, $15 million for Torrey Smith
  • One year, $1.25 million for LeGarrette Blount
  • Two years, $11 million for Nick Foles
  • Two years, $4.5 million for Chris Long (who donated this year’s salary to charity, by the way)

The Eagles really didn’t have to break the bank to bring in some veterans who ended up being major contributors to their season.

Will the Packers follow suit?

Obviously, the question that follows from the perspective of Packers fans is whether new general manager Brian Gutekunst will follow suit, and use free agency in the same sort of way.

Ted Thompson rarely made a splash move in free agency. But splash moves are not all that free agency was designed for. The Eagles’ closest thing to a splash move with Jeffery, but every other signing they made was designed to fill out their roster at positions of need with proven veterans who did not command a large financial commitment. Even those types of moves were infrequent at best under Thompson's watch.

Of course, all the credit in the world goes to Eagles Executive VP of Football Operations Howie Roseman for having a sensational percentage of hits in this past offseason’s free agent signings—that type of success rate is quite unusual when you bring in that many new free agents.

But even still, as the Eagles head to Minneapolis for the Super Bowl in just under two weeks, it is a striking example of a roster-building strategy that the Packers have simply not used enough over the last decade or so.

Imagine if, for example, Thompson had gone out and signed Foles this past offseason. Obviously, hindsight is 20/20—this isn’t a criticism of Thompson for not making that particular decision at the time, but rather an emphasis of how much depth free agent signings can impact a team’s season.

The Packers have a lot of talent on their roster. They also have plenty of holes to fill. The draft will only fill so many of those holes. Smart use of free agency can help to do the rest, even if you stay entirely away from “splash” signings.

Hopefully Gutekunst follows Howie Roseman’s lead.

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Tim Backes is a lifelong Packer fan and a contributor to CheeseheadTV. Follow him on Twitter @timbackes for his Packer takes, random musings and Untappd beer check-ins.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

Packers could have had Tony Gonzalez for a second round pick the Packers could have had Marshawn Lynch for a 4th round pick the Packers could have had Randy Moss for a 3rd or 4th round pick the Packers decided to pass on all these people. Imagine what it would have been like Brett Favre to Randy Moss or Aaron Rodgers to Tony Gonzalez or finally having a running back like Marshawn Lynch to plow through the line, but the Packers passed on all these people. Randy Moss went to the Patriots Marshawn Lynch went to Seattle and Tony Gonzalez went to Atlanta Falcons. And what did we get. Well, we got a fat Eddie Lacy and a worthless Jermichael Finley and still today we're still looking for a solid running back and a solid tight end.

John Kirk's picture

Oh, you're killing me reliving the nightmare that was Ted Thompson. He stole so much joy from the fanbase that it's criminal.

What about the Patriots? Gilmore, Gillislee, Burkhead, a trade for Cooks. No surprise these teams who used FA and trades properly as Philly did with Bradford, are better than those who use draft and develop only.

Every team in the NFL drafts and develops. There ain't one who doesn't, so you better come to the fight with more than the butter knife of draft and develop.

What I know is, the two times I saw my Packers hoist our Trophy it came after adding guys like Reggie White, Santana Dotson, Sean Jones, Andre Rison, Wilkerson and then Woodson, Pickett, Howard Green. I have never seen my team in a SB when we haven't had some very good FA's .
on the team. I was happy about Peppers until I learned we were going to position switch him that late in his career but point is with Julius we were closest to getting back than we've ever been. It takes big bold moves. Ron liked to make them. Ted didn't. Ted was a shrinking violet more worried about 5 years down the road to care about any particular season especially the one going on presently. I still can't believe he GM'ed this team for that long.

We can only hope Brian Gutekunst or Gutenkoonst as our CEO calls him is everything Ted should've been and wasn't.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

I love the way you think.. yes...yes..finally someone on this freaking website gets it !!

Doug Niemczynski's picture

How in the world do I get 5 dislikes for liking a guy's comments who got 7 like . You people are just ridiculous.

dobber's picture

Let it go. Don't count likes and dislikes (and, for the record, I didn't dislike your comment).

worztik's picture

Doug... I’ve found that some people don’t like what we say, even if it’s spot on, because either they didn’t consider it first or they just hold grudges! There’s an old adage that goes something like this: If we’re going to bitch and complain about something/someone, make certain to offer an alternative or an upgraded idea, instead of just being a downer! Not easy to do in this forum, however, try to be yourself without calling out someone else because their idea is DIFFERENT than mine or yours! I’ll say again, It may be hard to believe but, I get 5-6 predraft mags and study them and do research on the players they mention and they are USUALLY CORRECT!!!!!! Only one last year had Josh Jones listed AT ALL and that was as the 10th or 11th best safety! If TT had just read these mags he wouldn’t have had to do ANY SCOUTING!!! HAHA AND LOL to that final sentence!
After this, I’ll probably get 10 or more dislikes but, that’s what makes this entertaining!!! Some people have NO CLUE.... some are RIGHT ON.... and then there’s me!

Jersey Al's picture

It's pretty simple. By saying "finally someone on this website gets it" you are basically insulting everyone else. Hence the downvotes. I don't care much, but don't be surprised. Tone counts as much as substance.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Dont forget Keith Jackson , Eugene Robinson and Desmond Howard and of course remember we did not draft the great Brett Favre the Falcons did.

John Kirk's picture

I think you and I might be brothers in unpopularity but that's fine with me, Doug.

My background is sports broadcasting. Objectivity is key. We love our team but we must see it clearly. Anyone can rah rah go team but I like the smarter fan, smarter talk. I've seen you on here. You get downvoted which always makes me smile because I'm not the most popular here, either. Telling the truth or posting something perceived as "negative" always makes me smile in any forum of anything someone is a big fan of. You must be a troll if you're not positive, right? LOL. No. Just the opposite. You are a passionate fan who expects better. God bless you for that!

Here's a little something I think every fan of any sports team could benefit from. I have applied this mindset for many many years. It really helps put a little Visine in the eyes to see clearly what was cloudy before.

Curious to here your thoughts on this one, Doug. I really think it will resonate within you. Believe me. I feel ya. I already know what the majority will think.

https://medium.com/@maxwendkos/explaining-sports-fans-irrational-behavio...

WKUPackFan's picture

"Telling the truth...". Well, that depends on what, and who's, "truth" that you are talking about.

Being a former local sports radio hack doesn't exactly establish your credentials as an objective observer. Lecture us on something you have experience in, giving flaming hot takes. Otherwise, we'll get by just fine without condescending attitudes from someone unqualified to express them.

John Kirk's picture

Hack? Now, that's downright insulting. :)

Not condescending. It's a perspective thing. I have one that you don't. You have one that I don't. That's not condescending, it's true. I spent years as a fan and then years in media, and then out again. I was very different after the media experience. Being in media, both local and national, changes your perspective. I miss what just being on the fan side of things did to me. There's an innocence a faithful hopefulness that is eradicated on the other side. Ask anyone who's ever been and I'm sure they'd say the same. I hated the arrogance in the business and is among the reasons I left it. People acting like they're special doesn't work for me.

Fans are fanatical and it connotes not thinking objectively. You've seen the behavior in Bears fans, Vikings fans, etc. Ever see it in yourself, or here, or any other fan forum? It's rampant. A culture of feel goodism. I shun that. I don't want to feel miserable but I want to feel honest and have integrity in what I post. If that skews to levels that cause some to holler troll than that's how it has to be. That linked article is so very very true. People have the Packers wrapped up in their identity. The Packers don't define me win or lose. Of course, I enjoy SB wins over excuses about why we don't have them, but there's no self defining. I'm proud to be a Packers fan. Green Bay, is, or was a special place. It's growing more and more corporate but it's still the smallest city and there's some magic in the air there.

I'm sorry if I offended. I do think truth is something you better not say to a diehard of anything. It never goes well and I should understand that but so should the person who overreacts to feeling personally slighted. If you're a kid, fine, but as an adult that should never happen.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Great article. I think you nailed it. I feel i am probably both. I was raised a packer fan in 1963. I had to live thru thru the awful years of the 1970s and 1980s. I rooted for the packers, but it always seemed to be the same team's over and over. Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Cowboys, 49ers, Dolphins and Raiders,Washington. I had to live Dallas when my parents moved in the late 70s to 80s and all i heard over and over was the Cowboys,Cowboys etc,. and all they would ever show or talk about was the freaking ice bowl every year. Which was great for a while, but it got old very quickly. Don't get me wrong Tom Landry was a class act even him and Lombardi were on the same team New York Giants and I thought the way
Jerry Jones fired Tom Landry was dispicable. Thats one of the biggest reasons i can't stand the Cowboys. Anyway, Troy Aikman pissed me off when asked if he would go to the packers if drafted he said no. Vernon Davis said he would never go to the Packers if drafted, but going back to 1992 when Free Agency started the Packers jumped on that band wagon. Now, it was rumored as a joke that if a team didn't like you they threatened to ship you to Green Bay. Not funny to me. And so, for the fans that weren't around in Green Bay the Packers would have never won that Superbowl if it wasn't for Reggie White and Mike Holgren saying Reggie this is God and I want you to come to Green Bay. You see it wasn't until Reggie White came to Green Bay that other players started to take notice that Green Bay is not that bad and all those free agents came to Green Bay , because of Reggie White. You can believe it or not, but its the truth. Until you live outside of Wisconsin, Green Bay is thought of a jerk town. I mean if you are a star player do you want to play in New York, Dallas etc or Green Bay. Fran Tarkenton was my favorite player Brett Favre stepped on the field and the 1st time I saw him play the very 1st gamr against Tampa I said this guy is gonna be the greatest QB of all time and i still believe it. I would never bet against Brett Favre. Later on the Packers got away from free agency, but it wasn't until the Packers got aggressive by getting players like Charles Woodson, Ryan Pickett and nailing BJ Raji and trading up in the draft to get Clay Matthews and later getting Harold Green as a backup and boom another Superbowl. I do not want the Packers to fall into mediocrity. It is all about winning the Superbowl. You can shut someone up pretty quickly when team like the Pittsburgh can say we have 6 Superbowls rings. Anyways, for people who hate my opinions that's fine. But, I will not forget the past and I will not let my team suck by living in some fantasy that we can get to the Superbowl with a DC like Dom Capers who wasted 7 years of our teams best players. Bottomline is your only as good as your 53rd man and that is so true and that was a statement made by Mike Sherman who I never liked, but that statement is so true. It is all about matchups. You can't have Gunter covering Julio and expect to win the game its not gonna happen. The Packers have to put themselves in a position to win with the BEST players available and best GM and coaches, so i will continue to criticize the Packers as much as I want, because I am passionate and realistic about my team and I fall harder than anyone on this website when the Packers lose. So, like me or hate me or call me names that's fine, but I will voice my opinion as I see fit. Go Pack Go !!

John Kirk's picture

Ah, so much in common! Guess where I live? Right outside of Dallas! It SUCKS! I grew up hating the Cowboys. I'm so glad I didn't live here during the years they were routinely knocking us out in Dallas over and over.

Funny, you mentioned the firing of Landry. My old boss didn't follow the Cowboys as closely anymore because of how they did Landry...there is hatred for Jerry Jones.

I grew up in Wisconsin close to the Minnesota border. Got Twin Cities TV reception and WEAU out of Eau Claire for NBC and Channel 8 out of LaCrosse very faintly. A pain to watch the game through the snow on the TV not actual snow.

My next door neighbor gave me an old Packers sweatshirt of his. He played against Tim Krumrie in a Middle Border Championship game that I was at. He went on to an NFL TC but blew out his knee and never had a career, but he started the fever for me way back as a little kid. Just lost him this last year to cancer and we'd become close because I was going through it also. So very hard to lose him so my Packers love and ties run very very deep.

I went on to a career that started at the Vikings flagship of all places and then KSTP. I left from there to go to Denver and experienced that football crazy town. I worked with Doug Moe and Dan Issel there. I left there and went to work for Pete Rose who was one of a kind. My favorite assignment was working very closely with James Brown when he hosted Fox NFL Sunday. Still weird seeing him over at CBS. Worked with a lot of other famous people along the way. Had a wonderful career being the brains behind the voice.

Now, I'm many years out of the business raising a family just east of Dallas. I drove back up and caught the Philly preseason game. What I saw that night was a harbinger. I went to see Michael Clark and Aaron Jones. Glad I got to see Clark grab a late TD. Aaron didn't have a very good game that night but he was the draftee I was most fired up about in years.

The stuff about Green Bay is true. Who wants to live there? If you've never been you surely don't. I loved the place back in the 90's when I was coming for playoff games. Watching a grown man cry and see tears freezing to his face after we beat Carolina to go back to the SB hearing him mutter...I've been waiting 30 years for this...is one of my most cherished memories. I can hear Van Halen cranking as STANDING ON TOP OF THE WORLD was blaring after the game when they got the trophy. What a time. Town has lost a lot to corporate feel and I was appalled when I was there this summer that some "Fans" were charging people 40 bucks to park their car for a preseason tilt. Sickening.

This past few weeks has made me miss my old career. Adrenals on overload with all that has happened that is so long overdue.

If I come back up to the area for a game, I'll hit you up and see if you want to go. Would be fun. So happy there are fans like you out there that don't let being a fan color them a certain way.

See you on the bottom of a downvote real soon. :)

Striker's picture

"Oh, you're killing me reliving the nightmare that was Ted Thompson. He stole so much joy from the fanbase that it's criminal."

He also built a team that won a SB after a 14 year drought. Obviously 2011-2017 had a plethora of problems from Thompson to injuries to McCarthy, but let's not act like we're the Browns or Lions...

John Kirk's picture

I credit Ted for sticking it to Brett Favre. That was his signature move that will live on in history as a defining one. Ted loved his draft picks so much he booted the most popular Packer ever to the curb. Not sure I loved his motivation but I loved the result and will always love him for that move.

Of course, taking Rodgers, not Richard, was right there with that move. He didn't build much of anything as he made the correct move in taking the guy touted as a 1st overall and taking him with our pick. He saw the value and didn't go need. He went BPA and we have reaped a great decade of QB play minus a little lull in 2015/16 thanks to that move.

Ted was good at finding middle rounders and good WR's in Round 2. He found some very good players in Shields and Tramon. We had two very good starting CB's both via UDFA. That's unheard of. Kudos to Ted, there.

He just didn't have the aggressive nature to win it all. He was a 5 years out let's play to be competitive and have a chance because we have the QB guy. He really failed miserably at what you're praising him for. Team building. He rode one guy hard to a lot of regular season success and one SB after adding Woodson because nobody wanted him and Pickett who was a bust of a 1st rounder for the Rams. He also added Howard Green whom if he didn't, Nick Collins doesn't have the SB Pick 6. Ironic, that the man who made the smart move of Rodgers, traded up for Clay, and added Woodson and Pickett became a GM on cruise control after that until Peppers. If he'd have been what he was prior to the SB win every year, he'd have been the greatest GM in Packers history. We'd have multiple rings. I think he got his one SB, it surprised him and he coasted on that the rest of his time here.

I fear it's too late to do too much with the rest of Aaron's time. Ted sucked the life out of the chance to win multiple SB's and be everything in the NFC the Patriots were in the AFC. Truly tragic in a sports fan sense.

Richard Smith's picture

Stop whining.

John Kirk's picture

Who's whining? Give me an example. I'm enjoying finding some common ground with someone who will post things that are perceived as unpopular because that's what he sees. It's a great thing. Oh, for us all to be more objective and see more clearly.

Read the link. I think you might benefit if you'll open your mind and take it to heart. It's a necessity, if you're like me, and desire smart Packers talk. If you don't. That's fine. Everyone can coexist. We're all different.

(BTW, I will whine for a second...it's frustrating if you post a link, that you can't edit words like "here" to "hear" because the site thinks you're double posting links. I have to leave the typos)

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Not correct, but it is annoying. Go in, edit what you want, and cut the link. Submit. Edit again and add the link back in. I do it all the time.

Jersey Al's picture

we were getting killed with SPAMBot comments, so we had to put some controls in. Just that way it has to be. Glad you found a way around it in this particular case.

Al

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Annoying was too strong. I correct my grammar or typos due to fat fingers or cat paws, cut the link, submit, edit and paste the link back in. I use a computer or laptop only, so it isn't much of a deal for me. I don't know if using a phone would be different.

Striker's picture

Well, if they would have taken the change in terms of the Gonzalez trade, they don't have Clay Matthews. Plus, Finley was plenty productive before the injury. Especially with the plethora of weapons in the offense.

They wanted Moss on a multiyear deal, but Moss only wanted one. So the trade fell through.

Lynch was the biggest miss, but it's doubtful he changes the Packers fortunes considering the way Rodgers/MM run the offense.

Oh, and those three players don't solve the problem of looking for a TE and RB today (though Jones and Williams both look promising).

GBPDAN1's picture

So happy TT was removed from GM. I feel like we have a chance to return to the SB now. A 7 year drought with Aaron Rodgers at the helm was unacceptable . TT did some good things, but he just didn't take advantage of FA enough. I Hope we have the right man in place now. This off season will be telling

Doug Niemczynski's picture

If I am reading the news correctly then I am seeing that Clay Matthews was drafted in the 2009 draft and Tony Gonzalez was picked up by the Atlanta Falcons also in 2009, however they gave up a 2010 second round pick which would be the year after, so we would have had both Clay Matthews and Tony Gonzalez.

"Gonzalez was traded to the Atlanta Falcons in exchange for a second-round pick in the 2010 NFL Draft on April 23, 2009."

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The TKstinator's picture

Carson Wentz is on a rookie deal.
Tom Brady is only middle of the pack in QB salary.
I’ll be VERY interested to see Gute’s moves. AR is no doubt great but when your QB makes 20 plus it has to have a ripple effect with the rest of the roster and FA’s. But like most of us, I still hope Gute is a little more aggressive in using other avenues. Seems to me that big $ FA deals blow up as often as they pan out, and GB doesn’t have the cap room to make a big FA mistake.
All adds up to what promises to be a very interesting off season.

Tim Backes's picture

Right, but the point is you don't *have* to always go after the big money/name free agents to make effective use of free agency. The Packers have enough cap space where they can fill out their roster in some places of need with some veteran depth and role players.

The TKstinator's picture

Agreed, and I hope they do!
I was one of the morons that applauded the Bennett, Kendricks, and RJF signings. I always thought that mid level, vet FA’s were far more reliable than rookies who may boom or bust. And once again I was mistaken!

flackcatcher's picture

As long as you keep in mind that FA is always a gamble, and used to fill mostly short term holes on your roster, you'll be OK. Still need to know how much real power the new GM has. Giving the greasy nature of the statements coming from the Packer President I'm concerned. But the hard slap from the executive committee via Bob Harlan should be a wake up call. Still, until we see how the front office has been reset we won't have a clue to the Packers thinking on this.

The TKstinator's picture

It just bugs me that an established vet can STILL be a bust. The guy’s got a track record, so what goes wrong? Bad attitude? Bad scheme fit? It seems to me that teams should know better. Why sign a bump and run corner if you’re a zone team? Why sign a two gapping d lineman if you’re a one gap, penetrating team? I know there’s more to it than meets the eye, but...?

4thand10's picture

I was mistaken as well with the Bennett and Kendrick deals. I thought they would be real difference makers.

billybobton's picture

YES BUT ...

you just saw EXACTLY how the Rodgers RIPPLE worked on the field an OL where each and every position was a letter grade or more worse without him, imagine if you dare BH without BAHK

YOU SAW .... exactly what our WR and TEs looked like didn't you?

the ripple works both ways and in fact the better case can be made....by breaking down run v pass and scoring that RODGERS is our best defensive player as well.

the problem was YEARS of wasted and stupid picks, refusal to admit mistakes and move on from bad, lazy fat draft choices (Raji/hawk) to better players, hungrier players, players who did not lay face down during playoffs game to avoid contact.

we don't need to be overpaying adams or any of these guys when AROD is playing and this includes Cobb and Jordy as well

but as EVERYONE plainly saw without AROD the amount they should be making is far clearer and less and would allow more talent elsewhere

Pack12's picture

Thompson brought a knife to a gun fight.

The TKstinator's picture

Untouchables: one of my all time favorites!!

jeremyjjbrown's picture

He brought a limp lagnasa noodle.

The TKstinator's picture

“Don’t forget the cannolis!”

.......anyone?

Since '61's picture

"Leave the gun, take the Cannolies" is the correct line. Thanks, Since '61

The TKstinator's picture

Oops, I stand corrected!
Well done, 61! (That rhymes)

Striker's picture

A big part of the story for these FA additions is how Pederson and his coaching staff have gotten great production out of players who had struggled in years prior with their former teams. Torrey Smith has mostly sucked, but the improved play from Long, Robinson, and Darby after signing with the Eagles has played a HUGE part in their success this year.

lebowski's picture

I'm just so happy Ted's ways are in the rear view mirror.

Qoojo's picture

The operative keyword being smart. If you make the superbowl, the FA/draft moves almost always look smart.

Point Packer's picture

This past years FA class was highly heralded by sportswriters. My favorite being the “coup” that they pulled letting Cook walk only to get Bennett and Kendrick. At the end of the season, Bennett was no longer on the team, nor was RJF. Both did next to nothing. Kendrick was a ST player. Evans slipped as the season went on. House was Jekyll and Hyde rotating between being the team’s best CB and its biggest liability, all while battling injuries. And there was an 6 game stretch or so when I wasn’t even sure Quinton Dial played for GB.

Swing and a miss.

Savage57's picture

The day Bennett's signing was announced, I mentioned on several sites Bennett's personality would never play in Green Bay. I was promptly re-educated by "true Packers fans".

When Ted made his swap for Kevin King and Vince Biegel over TJ Watt, I mentioned it was another one of those moments of panic Ted always got when instead of buying what he really needed, he got sucked into the seller offering to throw in the box of junk for free if he took the beat up sofa instead of the nice bedroom suite at a garage-sale late on Saturday afternoon.

Rossonero's picture

The Eagles are also projected to be negative for cap space, according to spotrac.com (ranked dead last).

They are doing what Denver did in 2015 -- going all in and saying forget the rest of it. It might pay off this year, but it could hold the franchise back for the next couple years, even with Wentz at the helm.

Nick Perry's picture

Your right about that. The Eagles are in the hole as of now for both 2018 and the 2019 season. Almost $10 million in the hole for 2019 as of right now. It will be interesting to watch how their GM Rosen works himself out of that without losing to many players.

The Packers have a tad over $21 million and that's after signing their 2 most important (IMO) FA. IF the Packers are going to be players in Free Agency and make a run at a true difference maker or two, it's going to involve cutting Bulaga I would imagine and some kind of restructure or outright cut for Matthews, Cobb, and Nelson. Even cutting Bulaga doesn't save that much (less than $5 million). It's going to all come down to what they do with the other 3 and if they extend Rodgers this year or next. I wouldn't sit on Rodgers too long, I'd get that dude extended ASAP. The longer they wait the more expensive it's going to be.

WOW... Gutekunst has a lot of huge decisions he has to make and all in his first year.

Rossonero's picture

Agreed. The team is in a huge state of transition. Can Gutekunst navigate us through it all?

Personally i think Bulaga will be back. Hopefully he has a great 2018 so some team overpays for him and we get a nice comp. pick. Spriggs was settling down a little bit once he got some playing time.

Restructuring of other contracts is definitely in order.

I like Eagles TE Trey Burton a lot. He's only 6'2", but doesn't play like it. He'd come cheaper than Jimmy Graham too. What do you think Nick Perry?

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Bulaga is signed for the 2019 season as well. Cap hit of About $8M in 2018 (cap savings of $4.7M) and a cap hit of $8.35M in 2019. IDK, $8.35M might sound cheap by 2019 for an above average RT. Makes me hesitate to just cut him; maybe he'll be put on PUP and play 10 games plus playoffs for us in 2018 and then finish strong in 2019. All medical decisions at this point for me.

worztik's picture

There you go again Doug!!! Quit calling other people’s ideas ridiculous... they may be but, so are yours more-so than others!!! Take a chill pill and enjoy the carnage all around you! You can, both when the Chinese and North Koreans sneak into Lake Superior and Lake Michigan and start their offensive against the Eastern shores of WI. That will be something to bitch about... Just Sayin’...

carlos's picture

Worztik, stop scaring me. I live on Lake Superior. lol

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Dude if the Philadelphia Eagles win the Superbowl then it's freaking worth it screw your freaking cap and over budget in 2018 and 2019 what a ridiculous statement.

NitschkeFan's picture

"They are doing what Denver did in 2015 -- going all in and saying forget the rest of it. It might pay off this year, but it could hold the franchise back for the next couple years, even with Wentz at the helm."

Doug the reason everyone dislikes your comments are because they are often stupid. Your comment about the above post proves it. You say that it is a "ridiculous statement". Why? It is an informative posting about the Eagles salary cap situation and how they are "all in".

The post does not say this is a "good" or "bad" thing, just an informative statement about the Eagles and their salary cap.

Your post is the "ridiculous" post. You are an idiot.

Arthur Jackson's picture

Ridiculous is pretending the Broncos and now the Eagles who are one step away from a SB win are the only teams to have gone all in, thus making all in seem like an almost sure bet.

dobber's picture

I would argue the Eagles DIDN'T go all in. They didn't sign a bunch of high-end guys (maybe just Jeffrey). They let some of their guys go in free agency (Connor Barwin, for example). In their case, they had quite a few good pieces already in place especially in the trenches, and they caught a break with Foles after Wentz got hurt. Their pieces came together...I think that's what many teams try to do.

worztik's picture

Nick... I think that Brian’s first year will be a breath of fresh air for the organization! (Just like TT’s was and then it went to hell) Gute has Picks and some money to work with and many players that just don’t belong on the team. The trick will be, as always, to upgrade from what we have without overpaying! I really don’t think we’re that far from being dominant again! Be cautious with FAs and watch college games of the prospects and remain cool during the negotiations with these FAs!!! They need us as much as we need them in many cases!!! Just sayin’

Bure9620's picture

We have had FA that did NOT work out too, goes both ways. Jeff Saturday, Martellus Bennett, Cedric Benson (injury), Johnny Jolly had substance abuse issues, as did Letroy Guion not worth the money. Ahmad Brooks had a $6 mil sack. Or 1.5 sacks. The point is, FA is less of a risk than it used to be, but some do NOT work out. They have to fit scheme, fit the culture, fit the locker room and have a defined role. Example, what was Ahmad Brooks' role this year??? Go in on 3rd down when CM3 and Perry could not rush the passer? If a vet does not have a defined role it will make it that much more difficult for him to establish chemistry with the team and coaching staff. Free Agency is not just getting a bargain and production on an aging player, or signing the big name. It is also ensuring you have a staff that understands how to incorporate and use that player as well. Example. Jahri Evans provided a steadying leadership role, and veteran production.

The TKstinator's picture

Yes! Didn’t see this, but my post above is in the same vein.

4thand1's picture

I've never seen so much talk of FA on this site. We have yet to see what is going to happen, maybe nothing?

The TKstinator's picture

Could be. And why would GB tip their hand?

croatpackfan's picture

OK. Now, it is enough!

Martellus Bennett, Lence Kendricks, Jahri Evans, Davon House, Quinton Dial, Ahmad Brooks, RJF, John Ulrick...

Before 2017 season Packers signed same number of FA as Philadelphia did.

So, you are still claiming that Packers are not active in FA at all?

These are FACTS, not alternative facts...

Coldworld's picture

Somewhat different level of investment and intent though.

croatpackfan's picture

Well, to be honest the biggest miss was Marttellus Bennett. I remember lot of people here was so excited when the news came. I know I was. I really thought that was good signing.

Davone House was bust, but, to be honest he played injured almost complete season. And there may be why he played so poor...

Dial was OK.

We expected more from Ahmad Brooks, but he is obviously at the end of his career (I would like to be denied me)...

Lance Kendricks started well, but he dropped in his performance...

Jahri Evans was bingo...

RJF and John Ulrick was signed as depth players...

RCPackerFan's picture

'Well, to be honest the biggest miss was Marttellus Bennett. I remember lot of people here was so excited when the news came. I know I was. I really thought that was good signing.'

I was fooled by him also.. I thought it was going to be a great signing. And I really liked Kendricks to compliment him.

To be honest, had Rodgers not gotten hurt I truly believe Bennett would still be with GB.

And to be honest, if Rodgers doesn't get hurt I think Kendricks and Bennett have a lot bigger years.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

2017 Jared Cook was posted as 13th best TE.
Just posting what I read.

HankScorpio's picture

What's the difference between Ahmad Brooks and Chris Long? Not much in terms of contract value or past performance. Both are star players on the back end of a career. Both signed on the cheap for a shot at a ring. Brooks had a higher AAV and Long got a longer deal. Both were added for depth on the defensive front.

But Brooks was hurt all year and ineffective. Long played 16 games as a backup but chipped in 5 sacks.

worztik's picture

You are DEFINITELY ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINIONS, Doug! What you don’t need to do is to criticize others whose opinions differ from yours. That’s not helpful or constructive and an argument waiting to happen! Say what you want and ignore the DAMN THUMBS!!! I never have and never will do Facesit or gargle or any of those because they’re faceless and insignificant dipshits that probably don’t work and hate the world! Just sayin’....

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Np.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

I was raised a packer fan in 1963. I had to live thru thru the awful years of the 1970s and 1980s. I rooted for the packers, but it always seemed to be the same team's over and over Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Cowboys, 49ers, Dolphins and Raiders,Washington. I had to live Dallas when my parents moved in the late 70s to 80s and all i heard over and over was the Cowboys,Cowboys etc,. and all they would ever show or talk about was the freaking ice bowl every year which was great for a while, but it got old very quickly. Don't get me wrong Tom Landry was a class act even him and Lombardi were on the same team New York Giants and I thought the way
Jerry Jones fired Tom Landry was dispicable. Thats one of the biggest reasons i can't stand the Cowboys. Anyway, Troy Aikman pissed me off when asked if he would go to the packers if drafted he said no. Vernon Davis said he would never go to the Packers if drafted, but going back to 1992 when Free Agency started the Packers jumped on that band wagon they were aggressive. Now, it was rumored as a joke that if a team didn't like you they threatened to ship you to Green Bay. Not funny to me. And so, for the fans that weren't around in Green Bay the Packers would have never won that 1997 Superbowl if it wasn't for Reggie White and Mike Holmgren saying Reggie this is God and I want you to come to Green Bay. You see it wasn't until Reggie White came to Green Bay that other players started to take notice that Green Bay is not that bad and all those free agents came to Green Bay , because of Reggie White. You can believe it or not, but its the truth. Until you live outside of Wisconsin, Green Bay it is thought of a jerk town. I mean if you are a star player do you want to play in New York, Dallas etc or Green Bay. Fran Tarkenton was my favorite player, but then Brett Favre stepped on the field and the 1st time I saw him play the very 1st game against Tampa I said this guy is gonna be the greatest QB of all time and i still believe it. I would never bet against Brett Favre. Later on the Packers got away from free agency, but it wasn't until the Packers got aggressive by getting players like Charles Woodson, Ryan Pickett and nailing BJ Raji and trading up in the draft to get Clay Matthews and later getting Harold Green as a backup and boom another Superbowl. I do not want the Packers to fall into mediocrity. It is all about winning the Superbowl. You can shut someone up pretty quickly when a team like Pittsburgh can say we have 6 Superbowls rings. Anyways, for people who hate my opinions that's fine. But, I will not forget the past and I will not let my team suck by living in some fantasy that we can get to the Superbowl with a DC like Dom Capers who wasted 7 years of our teams best players. Bottomline is your only as good as your 53rd man and that was a statement made by Mike Sherman who I never liked, but that statement is so true. It is all about matchups. You can't have Gunter covering Julio and expect to win the game its just not gonna happen unless its maybe freezing in Green Bay. The Packers have to put themselves in a position to win with the BEST players available and best GM and coaches, so i will continue to criticize the Packers as much as I want, because I am passionate and realistic about my team and I fall harder than anyone on this website when the Packers lose. So, like me or hate me or call me names that's fine, but I will voice my opinion as I see fit. Go Pack Go !!

Doug Niemczynski's picture

2017 Picked as 17th best TE mainly behind Zach Ertz. I think the Packers should go after him. As a starter he might be a top 10 receiver with the Packers. I would still also draft another TE.

18. Trey Burton, Philadelphia Eagles

Route Running: 16/20
Hands: 19/25
YAC: 15/20
Blocking: 8/25
Position Value: 7/10
Overall Grade: 65/100

For the second time in as many seasons, backup tight end Trey Burton thrived when he was given a chance to play with the starters. His best game of the season came against the Rams in Week 14, when he filled in for the injured Zach Ertz. Burton caught five passes for 71 yards and two touchdowns, and he looked like the best pass-catcher on the field. He showed elite athleticism and soft hands, but he is at his best after the catch, when he can make linebackers and safeties miss with ease. Burton struggled as a blocker this season, but his receiving ability allowed him to get on the field anyway. Burton will be a free agent this offseason and should command a lot of interest as a slot tight end who can win in the passing game.

Who else are we going to get? We need a TE. I myself have always loved the 2 TE set.

On a side note: Jared Cook was picked number 13 as the best tight end for 2017.

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