#PackersDaily: Will anything make Packers fans happy?
Each season, the odds of any particular team winning the Super Bowl are pretty slim, yet it feels like nothing short of a Super Bowl victory will make Packers fans happy. Aaron chats about that and all things Green and Gold.
By PackerAaron
Comments (45)
Lphill
February 22, 2023 at 03:24 pm
Rich Eisen reporting Packers want Rodgers back .
Packerpasty
February 22, 2023 at 05:38 pm
yup...said it all along...he aint going anywhere..I told yous guys, my nephew works at Woodmans and AR said to him "see you next summer, stock up on the avacado's".....of course he's not McGinn but I trust his brains..
pantz_bURp
February 23, 2023 at 06:49 am
Yeah, well...Pp, my twin brother who works at Kwik-Trip said it is #10 all the way.
(full disclosure, I would trust your nephew more;)
Duneslick
February 22, 2023 at 07:59 pm
No So they can go 8-9 the next 2 seasons. They have a chance to let him go and help rebuild the team after what he has done to them with his contract
Coldworld
February 23, 2023 at 07:28 am
Original comment was by Jeff Darlington at ESPN, based on an unnamed “extremely important” source with the Packers.
It’s worth pointing out that Darlington has been advocating for the Jets to sign Carr urgently. According to him, the Jets believe Carr is a future Hall of Famer. I will leave that to speak for itself.
He believes that they can’t rely on Rodgers being available and can’t miss out on a guy they think destined for Canton. He acknowledges that others would potentially be interested in Rodgers, but used his Packers source as a basis to urge the Jets not to rely on that being an option and thus to implore the Jets to go for the guy they should believe in and who is available now.
I don’t expect Rodgers to retire. I have little to no faith in the Packers leadership. Rodgers may well end up coming back. That will end up being long lamented except by fans of divisional opponents. However, Darlington is essentially saying only that that Rodgers might not be available—he acknowledges that he may be—and thus they should not let Carr get away on the off chance that Rodgers does come on the market.
CheesedDeadHead
February 23, 2023 at 09:11 am
"It’s worth pointing out that Darlington has been advocating for the Jets to sign Carr urgently"
I've seen that Darlington has Patriot connections so I could see him advocating for Carr over Rodgers. I want the Packers to trade Rodgers based on age/performance curve and cap situation, but I'd put money on a 40 YO Rodgers out-performing Carr.
greengold
February 23, 2023 at 10:17 am
Darlington overlooks a very important point regarding Carr & the Jets: Derek Carr is a horrific cold weather QB.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
February 23, 2023 at 10:39 am
Yeah Packers realized that their disgust for Rodgers being made public hurts Rodgers' trade value. So theyre gonna pretend they still want him for the next couple weeks till a trade is finalized.
SinceLombardi
February 22, 2023 at 04:13 pm
Can’t wait for this to play out. At this point the Packers need to be the lead pony.
They are not a super bowl caliber team, so just move on, see what we have in Love.
If he started and the Packers some how finished above .500, I would consider that a successful season.
No matter who is under center we still have MLF and Joe Barry so there isn’t a lot of upside.
Lphill
February 22, 2023 at 04:16 pm
Barry staying because Jim Leonard taking a year off for health reasons .
Coldworld
February 23, 2023 at 07:16 am
Except he’s interviewing elsewhere despite knowing he’s scheduled to have hip surgery. He made that announcement before conversations with the Eagles commenced and it was cited only as one factor in their “mutual” agreement to end them.
packer132
February 23, 2023 at 08:03 am
Leonard is a healthy 40-year-old man. He is taking a year off from football since Wisconsin is paying him $1 million to NOT coach in the NFL or college for a year. Period.
Ferrari-Driver
February 22, 2023 at 05:46 pm
Aaron, the comment you made regarding the decision to be made regarding Rodgers stuck in my mind.
Paraphrasing it was essentially "the decision on what to do about Rodgers resides with Matt, Russ, Brian, and Mark". In my mind that is not who should be making the call on the roster of the Packers and feel it should reside with the general manager. I also feel that both Matt LaFleur and Russ Ball should work directly for the general manager, Brian Gutekunst. That in turn will enable the general manager to make all the football operations decisions and can in turn he held responsible for the results, whether they are good or bad. Murphy should be working on facilities and ancillary projects and leave the football decisions to whom he believes to be the best general manager he can find and hire.
greengold
February 22, 2023 at 10:14 pm
Bravo! Standing O!
stockholder
February 22, 2023 at 07:12 pm
Bijan Robinson.
CheesedDeadHead
February 22, 2023 at 07:45 pm
Klaatu barada nikto
BirdDogUni
February 22, 2023 at 07:51 pm
Won't be a Packer...
stockholder
February 23, 2023 at 06:20 am
Big mistake if he's there.
Coldworld
February 23, 2023 at 07:33 am
You want Rodgers in the worst way, and your recipe for making that logical is to take a RB in the first round? I suppose we could just rest Jones. Alternatively, we may as well just start trying to breed flying green pigs. Enough of this nonsensical drivel.
LLCHESTY
February 23, 2023 at 09:57 am
I didn't really like The Sound and the Fury, especially the Benjy parts, but I'm reminded of it often.
If you look at stockholder as Cheesehead's Benjy it makes his shorter posts more entertaining. I just avoid the longer ones.
RedMN
February 22, 2023 at 10:19 pm
I'll tell you what will make me happy. Completely rebuild the TE position, draft another weapon somewhere in the draft. Tell Joe Barry he's gonna have to make due with the talent he has on D(which is plentiful)or he's gone. This team cannot keep throwing high value picks toward the defense year after year and it never solves anything. Time for Barry to coach these men up and field a good consistent D. And let's roll with Jordan Love and see what kind of a QB he is. Rodgers is in the late stages of BFD(Brett Favre disease) and is not gonna make it back to any bowl.
greengold
February 22, 2023 at 11:22 pm
“Yeah… uh, I’ll take ‘Stomping Ndomakong Suh’s Nut Sack’ for $2000, Alex…”
Chomp chomp. Snap snap.
Bitternotsour
February 23, 2023 at 08:36 am
C'mon out to Portland and you can give that a try.
SwedeBayPacker
February 23, 2023 at 04:15 am
I guess we've all just grown entitled with our legacy and our back-to-back superstar QBs.
So yeah, I get why most other teams' fans hate us, but fuck em. They're just jelly.
pantz_bURp
February 23, 2023 at 06:46 am
"I get why most other teams' fans hate us, but fuck em. They're just jelly."
They may be jelly SBP, we are the ones in this jam.
egbertsouse
February 23, 2023 at 06:54 am
Murphy knows only one way to go, putting the band back together. When they restructured Jones and word leaked that they were working on Bahktiari, you just knew they were getting it together for another tour. And, the band can’t tour without its lead singer, Diva McNarcissist.
pantz_bURp
February 23, 2023 at 07:26 am
If that is the case E-souse, give me a healthy helping of Milli Vanilli.
This Band-aid needs to get ripped off...what a joke (without a punchline).
dobber
February 23, 2023 at 08:13 am
Maybe, but maybe they feel like this is the best supporting cast for a young QB (or an old QB, for that matter) and that the likely payback on 69 doesn't merit a cut or trade. They're already letting pieces go--Lewis, Crosby, Cobb. Whether 12 comes back or not, moves need to happen, and the further ahead of free agency, the better.
Coldworld
February 23, 2023 at 08:36 am
They have let them go in the sense of their contracts running their course. That’s not a guarantee that they won’t offer new ones after they have got under the cap to start the year. They did that with Campbell last year. They were willing (or constrained) to risk free agency to get under the starting hard cap bar despite thinking him a key piece and paying him as one.
T7Steve
February 23, 2023 at 07:40 am
We're supposed to be satisfied with less than a Super Bowl victory? I don't think so! It's been a long time. If the team will be satisfied with less than a Super Bowl victory, they'll never win another.
greengold
February 23, 2023 at 08:40 am
Aaron, can't tell you how much I loved the quickness & assuredness with which you whipped out, "Randy Wright," for the two yutes here who will never get it the way us highly fervent & impressionable Jerry Tagge-John Hadlers do, longing for the days of Bart Starr & Scott Hunter.
Lynn Dickey was a magician. David Whitehurst was cool.
And, then there was Wright.
Bitternotsour
February 23, 2023 at 08:41 am
I'd be happy if the fan base stopped swooning over aaron rodgers as though he was still 27. Let's get back to the Packer way. Let's get younger, faster, and cheaper. Let's take prudent care of our cap money. Let's have a GM who runs the football operation, not a CTE damaged sled hill developer.
I'll be truly happy when Mark Murphy is gone.
Leatherhead
February 23, 2023 at 08:45 am
I’m a Packers fan, and I’m happy.
We’re going to have anew QB and we’re getting extra draft picks for the old one.
Definitely happy.
Heyward
February 23, 2023 at 09:54 am
You have no idea what's going to happen with Rodgers. Just repeating the same thing after every post doesn't make it so.
13TimeChamps
February 23, 2023 at 10:38 am
Careful Heyward....tread lightly. You've been warned.
Leatherhead
February 23, 2023 at 05:35 pm
Heyward, you don't have to tread lightly, because you haven't repeatedly acted like a nitwit. I get your perspective. I don't have any inside knowledge, but I have a lifetime of experience with human nature, and that's telling me that Rodgers is done here.
A rain drop falls. Then another, then another. At what point does it stop being a few drops and starts becoming rain? We have the GM, and others, saying that Love is ready. We have these leaked stories that Gutekunst wanted to go with Love last season. That Rodgers has worn out his welcome with his passive-aggressive bullshit and his lack of commitment to the offseason.
You have the results of Rodgers poorest season as a starter, at age 39. You can see how often he tries to lob it downfield and how rarely he steps into the throw and rifles a strike. You can see he doesn't escape the pocket like he used to.
And you have the financial considerations, as well, and although I'm not an expert on them, it looks like me that our salary cap situation isn't going to really improve until after Rodgers is gone.
It all adds up to me. Plus the draft picks, plus the noise from the Jets about how much they would like to have him.
Here's the way it breaks down, Heyward. Whether we trade him or he retires, it's going to be a $40 million hit spread over two years. If the Jets, for example, offered us their 1st round pick and we said yes, then Rodgers would retire or play for the Jets.
From what I'm hearing, the Jets are willing to offer more than a first round pick. In fact, the Packers could trade Rodgers to the Jets for Quinten Johnston, Darnell Washington, and more.
I will be beyond stunned if Rodgers isn't finished here. I cannot imagine the reason they'd go with him if they truly believe Love is ready. They didn't draft Love and develop him so that he could sit on the bench behind a 40 year old who hadn't gotten the job done in over a decade.
Fubared
February 23, 2023 at 02:21 pm
You wish. At least you have a positive attitude but Rodgers is coming back, Love may be gone and the team will try and unload a lot of players and replace with cheap draft picks. All those new free agents. No one wants any of them because they arent very good. Even if the brass re do their contracts they still arent very good and thats who you are putting on the field.
It an fn mess what they did with Rodgers contract and how they destroyed the team for one guy, one more dream of a super bowl.
Coldworld
February 23, 2023 at 08:51 am
Lazard made an interesting comment to Rich Gannon this week to explain the offensive struggles last season:
“For us, I think having new faces, losing coach Hackett, and not building that chemistry throughout the season rather than building it during training camp and during the offseason held us behind the eight ball the first half of the season.”
jurp
February 23, 2023 at 09:49 am
Very interesting.
Now, how could the offense have built chemistry during the offseason and training camp? Gee, do you think maybe he meant that the lack of our starting quarterback's interest in the team during those two periods could've hurt the entire team?
Nah. Rodgers is a God and can do no wrong.
greengold
February 23, 2023 at 10:14 am
I can't imagine how they might have pulled the whole chemistry thing off...
pantz_bURp
February 23, 2023 at 10:11 am
My gut tells me the Packer front office is setting this up to take #12 back under the "heavy hand" that he has to be more active with the team prior to the upcoming season.
He agrees, (what a concession) and all are happy. Out of the goodness of his heart, he will allow them to retructure his contract to keep certain players he wants around. What a peach 🍑.
It was either trusting my gut or my twin brother running reconnaissance behind the banana stand at Kwik-Trip.
*Now, my bro swears they will trade #10 to the Vikings to make things real interesting. He overheard two truckers coming out of the restroom with that gem. See, I told you..my gut is the better option here.
Fubared
February 23, 2023 at 02:17 pm
This board has changed over the years. You say one neg about the pack and you were so down voted your computer sank into the credenza in the past.
Fans understand your not going to field a competitive SB contender year in year out. But they also get it that money was poorly spent on one guy two who maybe wins personal goals but is not a playoff winner and certainly no super bowl hero anymore.
Many of us also realize we are at the pinnacle of being a below avg team for a long time and a many year rebuild and losing seasons lie around the corner. The Party as they say is almost over.
Ferrari-Driver
February 23, 2023 at 03:33 pm
You make a valid point. More than a few of us are old timers and recall the Post Lombardi Years. It used to burn me when guys would say things like "The Pack is back with Bart the fart" and similar crap. Until Wolf traded for Brett in 1992 we languished and it wasn't apple pie being a die hard Packer fan all those years. I've loved the last three decades of being a contender and hope that 2022 was an aberration I personally hope that Love turns out to be one of the better quarterbacks in the league. He has the raw tools to succeed.
Heyward
February 23, 2023 at 06:42 pm
I started being a Packers fan in the late 70s, so I know all about losing. Going through some down years after Rodgers doesn't bother me. What bothers me is all the poor decisions that have been made over the past few years.
Ferrari-Driver
February 23, 2023 at 08:00 pm
I'll drink to that!