Packers Week 16 Snap Counts Versus The Titans

 

Once again, let's take a look at the snap counts, which bounced around considerably this week.  The Packers had 53 players signed to its 53-man roster and elevated RB Dexter Williams and DT Brian Price from the practice squad.

Inactive Players Love, Garvin, Stepaniak, Sternberger, Jamaal Williams, Redmond and Rush.   
Active - DNP None

Sternberger, Stepaniak, Redmond, and Jamaal Williams were inactive due to injury.  Love, Garvin and Arden Rush were healthy scratches.  Elevating Dexter Williams made sense because he plays special teams and RB Jamaal Williams was out leaving just Aaron Jones and A.J. Dillon available.  Elevating Price from the practice squad is more interesting.  The Packers elected to make DT Arden Rush, who is on the 53-man roster, inactive and to make a Practice Squad DT (Price) active for the game.  Indeed, Price got 9 defensive snaps.  Price was a Packer back in 2018.    

 

Name Snaps % ST
Jenkins 66 100 6 - 27%
Turner 66 100 2 - 9%
Bakhtiari 63 95  
Linsley 63 100  
Wagner 41 62 4 - 18%
Patrick 25 38 6 - 27%
Nijman 3 5 6 - 27%
Runyan 3 5 6 - 27%
       
Rodgers 63 95  
Boyle 3 5  
       
Adams 47 71  
MVS 41 62  
Lazard 41 62  
St. Brown 18 27 3 - 14%
Austin 17 26 4 - 18%
Taylor 4 6 5 - 23%
       
Tonyan 39 59  
Lewis 31 47  
Daffney 26 39 10 - 45%
       
Dillon 38 58 1 - 5%
Jones 25 38  
D. Williams 3 5 4 - 18%
       
22 played Off.      

With the return of OC Linsley, the Packers moved Elgton Jenkins to LG and played Turner and Wagner at RG and RT.  That made Lucas Patrick a backup.  However, Wagner got hurt (and was carted off the field) with 9:23 left in the third quarter.  The Packers slid Turner to RT and inserted Patrick at RG.  Someone in the game thread thought the Packers should have played Jon Runyan, but as far as I know he has played exclusively at LG and mostly practiced there as well.  That would have required either Jenkins or Runyan to play RG, an unfamiliar position.  That brought to mind one of Josh Sitton's quotes on the difference between playing LG and RG, though I decline to repeat it here.

The offensive line protected well, allowing one sack and two quarterback hits in the first half.  The run blocking was good enough.  Dillon, one of the stars of the game, ran for 51 yards on 10 carries and Aaron Jones ran 4 times for 17 yards in the first half.  Dillon had a long of 14, so he averaged a respectable 4.0 yards on his other 9 carries, though I kept thinking he might break one for a long run soon.  Jones had a long run of 12 yards, meaning he gained 5 yards on his other three carries.  Still, I always think Jones might break a long run.  Dillon finished with 124 yards on 21 carries, a 5.9 yard average, and added in the second half 2 touchdowns.  Jones finished with 94 yards on 10 carries.  Yes, the officials missed him stepping out of bounds on his 59-yard run, which should have been a 30-yard run.

Aaron Rodgers was sharp, completing 15 passes on 18 attempts for 140 yards and 3 touchdowns, good for a passer rating of 138.7.  In the first half, 8 different players caught passes, three of which went for touchdowns.  Rodgers completed 6 of 7 pass attempts in the second half for 91 more yards and another touchdown, though he did throw an ill-advised pass while being flushed to his right that was picked off.  It should be noted that in the second half Aaron Jones caught one pass for 5 yards and all the other completions in that half were by Davante Adams.  Rodgers finished with 21 completions on 25 attempts for 231 yards, 4 touchdowns and one interception, good for a 128.1 passer rating.  Dillon and Jones ran for 150 rushing yards in the second half, providing the Packers with a very balanced attacked and plenty of offense.  Tavon Austin had 2 receptions for just 5 yards, but he played far more snaps (17) than the 4 he got in each of the last two games.  Dillon got more snaps than Aaron Jones, though Jones left the game for a time with an injury, but returned later.  

The tight ends were quiet, with Tonyan catching one of two targets for 17 yards and Dafney catching his only target for 13 yards.  However, Dafney saw a large increase in his snaps, mvoing from a dozen or so to 26 against the Titans.  For contrast, Jon Lovett never sniffed 26 snaps, receiving just 46 snaps altogether in 9 games.  Marcedes Lewis and Valdes-Scantling were not targeted all game.  Taylor and St. Brown missed some blocks on running plays.

The Packers played 2.85 traditional wide receivers on average per play, easily a season high.  Counting Austin as a wide receiver, the number increases to 3.11.  The team played 1.45 tight ends on average, which includes Dafney as a TE, which is a normal number.  The Packers played 1.0 running backs per play (1.26 if Austin is counted as a running back).  

  

Name Snaps % STs
Savage 52 95 1 - 5%
Amos 52 95  
Alexander 52 95 1 - 5%
King 52 95 1 - 5%
Sullivan 31 56 10 - 45%
Scott 26 47 13 - 59%
Black 3 5 15 - 68%
Jackson 3 5 13 - 59%
Hollman 3 5 12 - 55%
       
Barnes 52 95 1 - 5%
P. Smith 45 82 1 - 5%
Z Smith 35 64 1 - 5%
Gary 30 55 3 - 14%
Martin 13 24 13 - 59%
Kirksey 12 22 2 - 9%
Ramsey 6 11 16 - 58%
Burks 3 5 16 - 58%
Summers 3 5 15 - 58%
       
Clark 43 78  
Lowry 35 64 8 - 36%
Keke 25 45 10 - 45%
Lancaster 20 36 9 - 41%
Price 9 16 1 - 5%
       
23 played Def.      

The first thing to note is that the Packers played 2.4 true defensive linemen on average per play, a season high. They played 2.16 OLBs, a perfectly normal number for the Packers.  That suggests that Zadarius Smith and/or Gary only slid into the interior of the line for 9 plays or so.  They played 1.45 ILBs on average, a fairly normal number.  The team played 4.98 defensive backs on average, a low number for the team. 

I conclude that the Packers had more beef on the defensive line than normal.  Moreover, it appeared to me that even if there were at times only 6 or 7 players "in the box" strictly speaking, much of the team was playing close to the line of scrimmage.  At any rate, Derrick Henry ran 11 times for 35 yards in the first half, a 3.2 yard average.  He had a long of 10 yards (meaning on his other 10 carries, he averaged 2.5 yards per carry).  Mission accomplished.  Tannehill completed just 6 of 10 pass attempts for 66 yards, with one touchdown and one interception.  The Packers had just 2 quarterback hits in the first half, but I thought the pressure overall was good.  The Titans scored just 7 points and were down 19-7.

The Titans got the opening half kickoff and scored on a 45-yard quarterback draw of some sort to move within 5 points.  The Packers responded on their next drive with a touchdown, pushing the lead back to 12 points.  After forcing a 3 and out (incompletion, 3-yard run by Henry, and another incompletion), the Packers scored another touchdown to push the lead to 19.  Tannehill completed just 5 of 14 attempts for 57 yards in the second half, a paltry 4.07 yard per attempt average.  It seemed to me that the Titans could not move the ball without the threat of the run, so they continued to hand the ball off to Henry.  It is true that Henry ran 12 times for 63 yards in the second half, a healthy 5.25-yard average,  However, he ran 4 times for 20 yards on one 10-play (3:35 long) drive that ended in the Kirksey interception at the Green Bay 35 yard line.  The Titans then had another 10-play (4:07 long) drive with Henry running 4 times for 28 yards, with a long of 8, which ended on downs when Alexander broke up a pass at the Green Bay 9-yard line.  The Packers were willing to trade some rushing yards if it used up the clock. 

The Packers had 10 passes defensed, with only one being a tipped ball (Preston Smith), and that one led to the Kirksey interception.  The secondary was excellent with 9 passes broken up, including a bunch by Jaire Alexander. 

Once again, Krys Barnes played almost all the snaps at the "mike" position, with Kirksey (12) and Martin (13) splitting the "will" spot.  No matter how much fans (and some of CHTV's authors) think Martin should be a starter, he has not been able for force getting more than a dozen or so snaps per game in the absence of injuries.  Gary continues to get significant snaps, but he also has not been able to displace Preston Smith.  Gary had another fine game, with several pressures and run stops on his way to 5 tackles (3 solo).  It was also interesting that the Packers decided to give the 322-pound Price, a practice squad elevation (but a member of the team in 2018), 9 snaps while making Anthony Rush, who is even bigger and is on the 53-man roster, inactive.                

Name Snaps % ST
Crosby     13 - 59%
Bradley     6 - 27%
Scott     6 - 27%

J.K. Scott did not have to punt.  Crosby made 4 of 5 extra points and had a field goal blocked, though that was negated by a penalty.  It might have been a trifle low, but there was excellent interior penetration.  Crosby had one touchback.  6 kickoffs were returned for a 24.5 yards average, with a long of 31.  The Packers returned 2 kickoffs for a 17.5 yards average with a long of 24.  an important 51-yard field goal.  He kicked off 5 times.  3 reached the end zone and two were touchbacks.  The Panthers returned three kickoffs for a 24-yard average with a long of 28.  The Panthers' kicker kicked off 5 times and had 5 touchbacks, meaing there were no kick off returns by the Packers.  Ty Summers had 3 tackles on special teams.  Once again the special teams failed to shine.

 

 

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 28, 2020 at 08:03 am

I deceided to use a photo of A.J. Dillon because he got more snaps and twice as many carries as Aaron Jones, and that is news. Krys Barnes had a case as well as it is apparent that he is the new starting ILB at the Mike position.

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murf7777's picture

December 28, 2020 at 09:06 am

TGR, not sure what your take on this is, but I'm going to put it out there. I think this team is the most well rounded team I've seen since our 2010 SB run.

Using Yards per Game, In 2010, we were 9th in Offense and 5th in D and this year we are 3rd in Offense and 7th in D. Using the eye test, I'd say we had a better D and worse O in 2010 and that is what the stats are telling us. That said, there isn't much difference. One area of concern is we were much better in ST's and that could become our Achilles heel. I'm hoping Austin can improve our punt return thou.

We need to get the bye and have, pick your warm weather team _____________ come to GB for the playoffs. Rodgers knows how to win in the cold and I think that is a Hugh advantage.

Beat the Bears cuz they "still suck"! It's going to be a slug fest.

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December 28, 2020 at 09:31 am

I think the 2010 defense was much better than this defense, regardless of what the stats suggest. It was saddled with an inconsistent offense and the team relied on consistent positive defensive performances. I think the 2020 offense is better, but the 2010 offense really came together: Jordy really blossomed late in the season and was a real #1 WR to go with Jennings, who definitely was a #1 WR. And the team still had James Jones and a not yet over the hill Donald Driver who was probably still a legitimate #2 WR. James Starks burst on the scene, though I think he just gave us a competent RB and I don't think he was as good as Aaron Jones.

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murf7777's picture

December 28, 2020 at 10:17 am

I will agree with you on the 2010 Team D being better throughout the year. But, what is impressing me is how we are coming together. Over the past 4 games, which I believe is a serious trend and holds validity of what type of D they are now, they are allowing 17.5 points per game.

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December 28, 2020 at 03:34 pm

2010 D had Charles Woodson, impossible to quantify how much difference that made. Just put his personality in someone on this D and it would be an even better D.

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murf7777's picture

December 28, 2020 at 04:01 pm

No doubt, Wood was one of my all time great packer player!

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 28, 2020 at 05:41 pm

A HOF cornerback and a guy that likely should be getting a gold jacket in Matthews. Nick Collins would be in the conversation if not for his career-ending injury.

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December 28, 2020 at 08:11 am

Where's the beef?... Plenty of it on the D line for every Henry run. It was a great performance by the D but also a different D from what Pettine has played most of the year. Because of Henry, he played to stop the run first and played fewer DBs than usual. Don't know if that's a recipe to be used more often, say against Kamara of NO, or even against the Bears, as Montgomery has been playing well, but it sure worked. Hate to project, but if it's KC in the SB, I believe he goes back to stopping the pass first, but for this one game it sure worked and was beautiful to watch.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 28, 2020 at 05:43 pm

If you play the basic formations, you will succeed. Andy Reid has three backs and Sherman for his FB. If you want to just go dime, he will destroy you with the run.

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Guam's picture

December 28, 2020 at 08:11 am

Thanks as always TGR! This is consistently one of the most informative columns.

I was surprised it was Price rather than Rush who was active, but I was very happy Pettine actually played a three man defensive line most of the time Henry was in the game. I have suspected for some time that much of the Packer run defense issues were attributable to playing only two D-linemen most of the time and this game seemed to confirm that. With three DL in there and the OLB's playing the run, the Packers shut down the best rushing attack in the NFL. Where was that strategy against Dalvin Cook?

The Packer D held the #1 offense in the league to 14 points and stymied the best running back in the NFL. We may have a better defense than we think if only the coach would use them properly.

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murf7777's picture

December 28, 2020 at 08:27 am

Good stuff TGR.
..thank you

Seems Kirksey plays better with fewer snaps. Our D is certainly better with Barnes in the middle. Just in time for the playoffs. I’m also really impressed with our two 2019 first round draft picks; Gary and Savage.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 28, 2020 at 09:58 am

I will leave this issue for the guys who really know their Xs and Os, but the run fits by the ILBs seemed very good. (Edit: just saw MITM make this same point in the thread to another article.) Is that a function of having more defensive linemen on the field, perhaps narrowing the focus necessary for the ILBs to utilize. Is it because the OLBs emphasized containment and squeezing the gaps, particularly the C gap?

I don't know; it just seemed to me that whenever Henry found a bit of a running lane there were defenders downfield waiting to limit the gain. Perhaps the Titans' OL could not get to the second level to really spring Henry for a long run?

Henry looked really good to me. Despite our success against him, he is a guy that always seems to fall forward and as often as not to drag a tackler at least for a yard or three.

I forgot Vernon Scott. Another guy who seems to be getting a long look at the cover linebacker position, Raven Greene's role. Can't say enough about the secondary in this game.

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Guam's picture

December 28, 2020 at 11:45 am

There are guys much better with the Xs and Os than I am, but I think the three down linemen had a lot to do with the success of the ILB's. Not only was Barnes excellent, but Kirksey had his best game as Packer despite limited snaps. Three down linemen occupy the center and both guards, keeping the ILBs clean and allows them to get to their assigned fits and pursue. This is how a 3-4 was designed to play.

I understand Pettine likes to play the pass first, but when you are facing teams with outstanding running backs and average QBs (Tennessee, Minnesota and San Francisco), stop the damn run first. I think the Packer run D problem is more about scheme than it is about players.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 28, 2020 at 05:49 pm

You don't invest that much talent for the secondary to have them sit in zone. Gary has taken command of the Edge with the Smith's getting the message of holding the point, stop the TEs from leveraging you, then attack. I will wager LaFleur has been in the defensive meeting rooms this past month.

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Coldworld's picture

December 28, 2020 at 09:13 am

I firmly believe that you hit the nail on the head with your comment on the additional linemen making the ILB and other roles behind them more viable. Pettine’s approach this year has asked too much if the ILB/Hybrids. This is simply a better balance against all but pass only teams. I hope we see more of it next week.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 28, 2020 at 05:51 pm

He set them up to fail, now it's back to fundamentals.

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December 28, 2020 at 07:52 pm

I think that in the off-season, if you let Montravious Adams leave in free agency, and replace him with a good Day 2 DL, , all the linebackers will look better.

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murf7777's picture

December 28, 2020 at 09:18 am

"I forgot Vernon Scott. Another guy who seems to be getting a long look at the cover linebacker position, Raven Greene's role"

As in 2010, next man up. As I'm sure you remembered we were depleted with injuries in 2010. Green goes down, in come Scott. Williams goes down, in comes Dillon. Kirksey get's replaced (not by injury thou, thank you Pettine), in comes Barnes. That D was led by two dominate players in Woodson and Matthews. This team's D is led by Z and Jaire. Funny, how they are both led by the two key positions; CB and Rusher.

This is a much more mature team then 2019.

Our O is soo exciting thou with 4 players playing the best in the NFL right now; Rodgers, Lindsey, Bak and Adams.

This game got me excited for the playoffs.

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December 28, 2020 at 08:55 am

We all knew the offense was good. The defense now looks like it is ready to compete in a Super Bowl. Barnes taking over in the middle feels like it has made a huge difference in the last few weeks. I don't know if it is just a coincidence or no, but Savage is playing his best ball since Barnes has taken over the middle of the defense. The number of PDs last night was crazy. Teams will think twice before testing Alexander again.

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Coldworld's picture

December 28, 2020 at 09:14 am

Yours is a piece that I wait for each week.

I believe Rush was described as having an illness. While not injured, that would explain him not being active.

Interesting that Pettine finally felt able to go heavier. Martin was used as an edge rusher at times and Amos in the hybrid role with Scott deep (it seemed to me). Not sure to what extent that changes the positional weighting, but I think that, in addition to the run, it showed less DBs can cover effectively with the extra up front making a bigger impact against a running opponent.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 28, 2020 at 09:56 am

Good grief, how do folks know these things! That's what I love about comment sections: the readers really can inform. I don't do twitter so those notifications many of you get are foreign to me.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 28, 2020 at 01:51 pm

Pregame announcement, look like a last minute scratch. I don't do twitter either... :-)

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dobber's picture

December 28, 2020 at 11:25 am

Rush was a DNP on Wed., but practiced in full the rest of the week.

Bottom line, they liked Price better. Enough better that they picked him up this week and played him right away.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 28, 2020 at 01:57 pm

Not how they announce it pregame. I believe you, just strange how it played out last night. (I saw Price and my seatmate was scanning for Rush and figured he wasn't suited up by late first quarter. Par for the year)

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dobber's picture

December 28, 2020 at 03:33 pm

I'm not sure what you mean: Rush was listed as an inactive...those come out about 2 hours prior to game time.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 29, 2020 at 01:03 pm

Sorry dobber, I should have been clearer. I was at Lambleu for the game. Surreal experience... (sister is a ICU nurse, she dragged me along)

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Coldworld's picture

December 28, 2020 at 09:27 am

Why does this thread disappear in the listings so fast in favor of more fluffy stuff? I’m always going to look for it, because it’s up there with Al’s mindset as one of the best columns.

Come on CHTV, don’t hide your highlights so readily.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 28, 2020 at 09:47 am

As I understand things, it is on the wish list. I've emailed Jersey Al about for example being busy on a Wednesday and not logging on until Thursday. I remember that his Confessions article was published the day before and go looking for it but I am sure many readers don't since it is no longer on the main page.

The articles disappear too quickly from the main page (unless you go to the initial page with just cheeseheadtvcom in the search bar). Having the numbered four articles be the same as the latest buzz articles means only four articles are easy to find and click on.

I particularly like the Passing Chronicles as well because there is much to learn and now I at sometimes recognize passing route concepts. Oh well, perhaps that fix and a new comments highlighter will become part of the design at some point.

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Guam's picture

December 28, 2020 at 12:19 pm

Concur CW. I look for this one before I read any of the other post game columns. TGR's Snap Counts, Al's Mindset and TimBackes new one, Hello Wisconsin, have become my staples on this site.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 28, 2020 at 09:54 am

I only just mentioned it in the article, but I am always concerned when I see the the entire passing offense in the second half (save for a 5-yard reception by Aaron Jones) is due to passes to Davante Adams. It was very secondary issue for me since the Packers ran for a whopping 150 yards in the 2nd half and there was no lack of offense. Still, going from spreading the ball to 8 different receivers in the first half to just two in the 2nd half bothers me. Maybe it shouldn't?

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December 28, 2020 at 10:54 am

The lack of balance catching the ball has been a concern of mine since a few games into 2019.
Most of the time a combination of Rodgers, scheme, defensive incompetence and others stepping up have covered it all up. It doesn't hurt that Davante Adams is one hell of a one-man show.

At some point, someone else needs to really establish themselves as something more than a borderline 3/4 WR target. I had hopes for Lazard. Others have touted MVS. Neither has shown nearly enough, IMO. This is prominent on the list of things I think could de-rail the Packers drive to another SB win.

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Coldworld's picture

December 28, 2020 at 11:10 am

It gave me pause for thought, but Adams was just killing them. It’s hard to argue with that. The one issue was the interception throw, but I did not see others open in real time, so maybe the alternative was a throw away anyway? They look to have focused on MVS all night, which is odd in those conditions. Let’s be honest though, the run game was the primary weapon in the second half, not Adams.

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dobber's picture

December 28, 2020 at 11:28 am

I don't have a problem with Adams catching a lot of balls. If they can't defend him, why not? It's the opposite of the mentality when people say, "If you have a hot back, feed him." That said, if they can't get the ball to Adams, they've got to be versatile enough to switch to other options. Chicago, I'm sure, will double Adams all night and force the Packers to go to other pass-catchers.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 29, 2020 at 12:23 am

Keep running the play that works until they stop it!

I have to agree - throw to Davante until they stop it. Being honest, when Davante has been out the Packers have found other weapons and other ways to score. They just have.

And that's what stops me from going on a rant about not drafting a WR. I may believe the Packers will run into a team with two very good CBs who can take away Davante and another WR, leaving the Pack in peril, but it really hasn't happened yet. I like to think (whether it is so or not) that my opinions are based on facts, and so far throwing a ton to Davante hasn't really hurt the Packers.

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December 28, 2020 at 12:40 pm

It shouldn't bother you, unless you're one of those people who think you have to have 3 superduper WRs on the field and have your QB throw 40 times. If you're a guy like me, who thinks it's better if you can run 37 times and throw 26 and still score 40, then it shouldn't bother you at all.

26 throws and 12 of them were to your very best receiver, the one that's making about $13 million/year. Jones, Lazard, Tonyan, and Austin were each targeted twice....those would be our bargains. EQ caught one, for a TD.

Do you remember the game last year where our defense got shredded and the opponent only threw 10 passes? This year, I want us to be the team that throws 10 passes. We took a step towards that against a weak Tennessee defense and it'll be interesting to see what we do against the resurgent Bears next week.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 29, 2020 at 12:24 am

I am open to the notion that it should not bother me. Not persuaded, not convinced, but you might be right.

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jlc1's picture

December 28, 2020 at 03:37 pm

Could it be that spreading the ball around in the first half helped free up Adams in the second?

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Jared's picture

December 28, 2020 at 10:49 pm

I think the fact that Adams was “in the groove and they couldn’t stop him” resulted in AR going to DA as much as he did. Max McGee said “you run a play till they stop it”.

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December 28, 2020 at 09:53 am

Taking Note of Barnes at 52. 52 people! The Packers don't value the ILB position. But look at the snaps, and the improvement of this Defense. The objective of BG should have been ILB. It's actually screaming at everyone. He didn't finish building the Defense. Love - 0 snaps. Whose his Baby Sitter? I say he's Brohm #2. And is nothing but a side show. That will cost us a Legend. Whose objective was winning.

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murf7777's picture

December 28, 2020 at 10:38 am

If I was GM, I wouldn't value the ILB position as much as well. You only have soo much draft and salary cap capital available to use. So, some positions are weighted differently then others on every team.

IMO, the most important positions and ones where you draft and spend the largest share of Salary cap are as follows:

QB
LT
Pass Rushers
CB
remainder of DL and OL.

Right now, they are top ten overall defense on yards allowed. I know the ghost of San Fran tends to make us reactionary, but the reality is we just proved last night that we have the horses necessary to stop the run and make a serious attempt to get to the SB. No team is perfect, but ours is one of the top 3 -4 teams in the league right now.

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December 28, 2020 at 03:17 pm

Wolf said you build a team with CBs and OTs. He traded for Favre and signed White. But the heart of the defense was the LBs. Something any Super Bowl winner had. Pettine changed his front last night. Stopping Henry was something. The game is won in the Trench. But the heart and sole is still the ILB. It shouldn't have been a revolving door since 2010.

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December 29, 2020 at 01:43 am

"Love - 0 snaps. Whose his Baby Sitter? I say he's Brohm #2. And is nothing but a side show. That will cost us a Legend. Whose objective was winning."

Try to write in complete sentences. Perhaps your point would be comprehensible. And please stop capitalizing words that are not proper nouns.

Love's presence does not seem to have cost anything, certainly not the legend that is Aaron Rodgers, assuming that is what you meant. Love is only a sideshow to the extent that he gives armchair general managers like you something to obsess about.

By the way, Brian Brohm (currently the offensive coordinator for his brother Jeff) is the next hot commodity for a college head coach. He was also a consensus first round draft choice who the Packers were able to get in the second round. I'm sure that you never saw a second of Brian's career at U of L, and have no clue as to what his talent level was. I'm equally sure that you have no clue as to whatever the reasons were that Brian's NFL career was not as successful as every, and I mean every, professional evaluator thought it would be.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 28, 2020 at 07:47 pm

Murf, looking at what has been done since January 2017, it seems that the Packers extended a great QB , put a really good offensive line on the field...deep, with proven vets. And they said “We’re gonna win with offense”. Our RBs are running through huge holes and Rodgers has time to do his job. And we have an elite offense.

We drive the ball down the field and score TDs. We don’t turn it over, we don’t settle for FGs, and 40 or more points wins most of the time. That’s the plan.

Defensively,we spent money and draft picks on the secondary and edge linebackers. , figuring teams will have to throw against us. So it looks like the brass agrees with you, with the exception that they place higher value on the entire line. They’ve signed two quality FAs, extended Bakhtiari and spent a Mid second round pick on Jenkins. That’s a pretty big investment.

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Coldworld's picture

December 28, 2020 at 11:20 am

He’s not done building the team. But I’d say the ILB position took a massive step forward in this off season. Barnes and Martin could be really exciting. I have to admit, Kirksey looked like the player I’d hoped he might be for the first time last night. Mirage? Or maybe because our formation actually enables better ILB play?

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dobber's picture

December 28, 2020 at 11:29 am

I think it's because they limited Kirksey's snaps to situations where he could play to his strengths.

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December 28, 2020 at 04:04 pm

Totally agree..

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Since'61's picture

December 28, 2020 at 10:35 am

I hope the Packers keep giving more snaps to Dillon on offense and to Gary on defense.

Gary looks like he is evolving into a player who can wreck the opponents offense. Dillon could become a dominating, punishing runner who can close a game out in the 4th quarter.

I hope that Greene can come back for the playoffs. With Greene healthy this Packers defense will be a complete unit with solid tackling and another run stopper.

Bring on the Bears and get the #1 seed. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Coldworld's picture

December 28, 2020 at 11:17 am

I’m hearing that the odds aren’t good on Greene, but Amos had looked good in that role. From what I saw Scott had a decent game deep in the absence of Redmond. It’s not ideal, but we have more depth deep that in comfortable with than last year.

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December 28, 2020 at 12:38 pm

I'd like to publicly eat some crow. Not the full dish yet but I've had a few mouthfuls and hope to finish after next week's game. Since day one I've made it known how much I hated the Gary pick. He's had his moments this year but I still never thought he was the real deal. Well damn, last night, with all the great play by Jaire, and Z and Savage and Barnes and P. Smith, and Amos, best defensive play by a Packer team in years... Gary may have been my favorite player to watch. He was pushing big guys around like they were 150 pounders or setting the edge making Henry turn inside to be gang tackled. On a couple of occasions, he pulled Henry down himself like a calf about to be roped. I'm in. A fan. That crow tastes great!

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murf7777's picture

December 28, 2020 at 04:08 pm

I think many are crow eaters on that one....lol. We're all just a bunch of fans guessing at talent or lack there of. He sure has looked good lately and I'd say I started to see promise the 2nd half of last year.

I think the important part is he wants to be great and willing to put in the effort to do so.

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

December 28, 2020 at 01:58 pm

@Thegreatreynoldo: In your last paragraph, you have stats against the Panthers.... :)

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 29, 2020 at 12:28 am

Oops. Long story. Thanks for letting me know.

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December 28, 2020 at 02:52 pm

Thanks TGR, always good. Short comments:First time since game four, maybe five we saw the full MLF offensive scheme in action. Some of it is figuring out the newly acquired players' strength in the scheme. Both Lazard and are MVS unsung heroes in the run blocking game. Both have some real nasty to them. MVS was drawing double coverage in pass routes all night long. Teams know the damage he can do. D. Adams seemed to have single cover for most of the game. That didn't make sense. (I need to see the all-22 for this) Rodgers was getting 5 sometimes up to 7 seconds in the pass game. His pocket protection was sublime. As good as when the Packers played the NY Giants in NFC playoffs. (Point out Titans were in cover two most of the game. Didn't help them at all) Offensive line outstanding all night long. Titans defensive front 7 was simply out matched and out played from beginning to end. Quadzilla is an understatement. Until you get eyes on Dillion, you have no idea how huge he really is. Packers can't afford Aaron Jones anymore. Damn... Hope the Titans enjoyed the Full Pettine. Ha Ha Ha Ha... Packer secondary took every passing lane and route away. Incredible performance by all hands. Not only did King and Alexander shut the Titans down, they made it impossible to throw against them by mirroring their routes. Not the first time this year but rare for three DL on field for most of the game. That is a roster issue that Gute dodged till a couple of months(may three?) ago. GM got some explaining to do... (Cap Man made me do it) As mentally sharp as this team has been all year. Very, very impressive.

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jlc1's picture

December 28, 2020 at 03:40 pm

Mentally sharp? Absolutely - 0 penalties!

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SugarCain's picture

December 28, 2020 at 07:11 pm

Another site had Gary with 11 pressures in only 30 plays!
If Gary would get 45-50 plays he will constantly bring havoc.

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December 28, 2020 at 07:23 pm

So it took 15 games for Pettine to figure out having more than 2 down lineman he!ps to stop the run ? That alone should get him fired .

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

December 28, 2020 at 11:01 pm

Thanks for the summary. I noticed the Packers ran 63 plays on offense and the defense had 53. I was curious regarding the time of possession for each team and assumed that the advantage would favor the Packers as it had during the season with our offense playing well and winning the turnover battle in all or most games.
If you have that statistic I would like to see it. Thanks.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 29, 2020 at 12:33 am

1st Half: 19:07 to 10:53.
2nd Half: 17:30 to 12:30.

Game: 36:37 to 23:23 in favor of GB.

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December 29, 2020 at 07:37 pm

Thanks "Great One". The information is better than I had hoped.

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