Packers Snap Counts Vs. The Chargers: Week 11, 2023
The Packers keep things together while the Chargers bumble, stumble and fumble their way to defeat.
The Packers elevated safety Benny Sapp from the practice squad. Jaire Alexander (shoulder) and Rudy Ford (biceps) were inactive due to injury. The other inactive players were Brenton Cox, Samori Toure, Caleb Jones, and CB Kyu Blu Kelly. Aaron Jones and Emanual Wilson left the game due to injury. QB Sean Clifford did not play.
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Myers | 72 | 100 | 5-19% |
| Tom | 72 | 100 | |
| Jenkins | 72 | 100 | |
| Runyan | 66 | 92 | 5-19% |
| Walker | 41 | 57 | 5-19% |
| Nijman | 31 | 43 | 5-19% |
| Rhyan | 6 | 8 | |
| Newman | 5-19% |
The offensive line was not able to generate much movement in the run game. Running backs 55 yards on 21 carries for a 2.62-yard average. However, Jayden Reed added 46 rushing yards on 3 carries (all in the first half), with a long of 32. The line allowed 7 quarterback hits and 3 sacks. The tackles had difficulty with linebackers Khalil Mack, who finished with 2 sacks including a forced fumble, two tackles for loss and a pass defensed, and Tuli Tuipulotu, who had a sack and a tackle for loss. NT Sebastian Joseph-Day also caused some problems in the middle. Day had a sack and 2 QB hits while getting some push up the middle.
| Plyaer | Snaps | % | STs |
| Dillon | 52 | 72 | 3-12% |
| Jones | 15 | 21 | |
| Wilson | 6 | 8 |
Dillon ran hard all day. Indeed, he had to after injuries to Jones and Wilson and the inability of the line to move defensive linemen. He gained 29 yards on 14 carries (2.1-yard average) with a long of 6. Dillon caught 4 of 4 targets for 32 yards with a long of 20 yards. Aaron Jones gained 14 yards on 4 carries (3.5-yards per carry) with a long of 9, and caught 1 pass for 3 yards. Wilson gained 12 yards on 3 carries with a long of 5 and caught 1 of 2 targets for 9 yards. Jones and Wilson were both injured in the first half and did not return. [Reportedly, the Packers do not think Jones sustained a long-term injury despite being carted off the field/]
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Musgrave | 46 | 64 | 5-19% |
| Kraft | 30 | 42 | 18-69% |
| Sims | 16 | 22 | 10-38% |
| Deguara | 1 | 1 | 5-19% |
The pass-catchers in general on this team have hitherto not been doing Jordan Love very many favors, but that changed against the Chargers. Yes, there were some drops (4 by my count including the wide receivers) but they also started to make some plays. Part of that is due to improved placement by Love. Musgrave caught 4 of 6 targets for 28 yards with a long of 11. He also threw one of the blocks that sprung Reed on a 32-yard touchdown run. Kraft caught both of his targets for 32 yards with a long of 27. Indeed, I had to watch the replay to believe that it wasn't Musgrave tip-toeing down the sideline on the big 27-yard gain. Sims had no statistics. Degaura's role on this team seems to have dwindled down just to special teams.
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Watson | 56 | 78 | |
| Reed | 50 | 69 | 3-12% |
| Doubs | 49 | 68 | |
| Wicks | 24 | 33 | |
| Heath | 15 | 21 | 10-38% |
Doubs caught 5 of 6 passes for 53 yards with a long of 24 for a touchdown. Doubs did a nice job of high-pointing the touchdown pass to eliminate any chance the defensive back had of swiping it loose and ruining a nice throw from Love. Reed caught 4 of 6 targets for 46 yards with a long of 19. He added 46 rushing yards on 3 carries, including a touchdown. Wicks caught 3 of 5 passes for 91 yards with a long of 35 yards. Wicks did have a drop, but he also absorbed a big hit in the open field and bounced off of it to add an additional big chunk of yards to help Love generate some offense. Watson caught 2 of 4 passes for 21 yards, including an 11-yard touchdown catch. Heath caught his only target for 7 yards and threw a downfield block to spring Reed on his touchdown run.
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Love | 72 | 100 | |
| Clifford | DNP |
Jordan Love had an encouraging day. He completed 27 of 40 (67.5%) for 322 yards (8.1-yards/attempt), 2 touchdowns, 0 interceptions, and finished with a 108.5 passer rating. There were no odd looking decisions. Love's accuracy looked good. He did not force his receivers to adjust to his passes as much or as often. Love did have a fumble, which was recovered. The Chargers were able to generate pressure. Love scrambled 3 times for 0 net yards with a long of 1.
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Clark | 50 | 77 | |
| Wyatt | 33 | 51 | 5-19% |
| Slaton | 29 | 45 | 10-38% |
| Brooks | 25 | 38 | 7-27% |
| Wooden | 5 | 8 | 4-15% |
The Packers allowed running backs to gain 77 yards on 16 carries (4.81-yard average), but most of that came on one run by Ekeler for 37 yards when Wyatt could not quite corral him in the backfield. The Chargers were generally ineffective on the ground, gaining just 2.67 yards per carry by running back outside of the long run. However, Herbert added 73 rushing yards on 8 carries with a long of 28. Officially, the Packers allowed 150 yards on 24 carries for a 6.3-yard average. The Packers played just 2.18 true defensive linemen per play on average, a low number for them.
No lineman had more than one tackle, though Brook's was a sack. Clark had a pass defensed to help seal the win and a huge forced fumble inside the Packers own 5-yard line that was recovered by Gary to prevent a touchdown or field goal. It is interesting that Wooden got only 5 snaps.
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Walker | 65 | 100 | 5-19% |
| Smith | 51 | 78 | |
| Gary | 45 | 69 | |
| Campbell | 41 | 63 | 4-15% |
| Enagbare | 22 | 34 | 12-46% |
| McDuffie | 21 | 31 | 16-62% |
| Van Ness | 12 | 18 | 7-27% |
| Wilson | 16-62% | ||
| Welch | 14-54% |
Campbell had 7 tackles (6 solo) including a tackle for loss. Walker also had 7 tackles (2 solo), and he was used as a spy sometimes. Van Ness had 2 solo tackles. Gary had 2 tackles, including 1 sack and 2 QB hits. He did have multiple pressures and drew a holding penalty. He also was penalized once for being off sides, but also recovered a fumble. Smith had 2 tackles (1 solo) with 2 QB hits. He also drew a holding penalty. Enagbare had a tackle for loss.
The Packers had trouble covering tight ends. TE Donald Parham (starting in place of Gerald Everett) 4 of 6 passes for 57 yards and dropped another. TE Stone Smartt caught 1 of 3 passes for 51 yards, and also had a drop. Some of those issues probably belong in the defensive back category. They did get pressure. While Herbert rushed 8 times for 73 yards, some of those were not so much due to pressure as to seeing a lot of open green space ahead of him.
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Owens | 65 | 100 | 10-38% |
| Valentine | 65 | 100 | 7-27% |
| Ballentine | 65 | 100 | 1-4% |
| Johnson | 65 | 100 | |
| Nixon | 55 | 85 | 13-50% |
| Sapp | 1 | 2 | 7-27% |
| Leavitt | 16-62% | ||
| Anderson | 14-54% | ||
| Rochell | 11-42% |
The Packers played 4.86 defensive backs per play on average. Owens had 8 tackles (4 solo) but that included a whiff on a play that ended in giving up a touchdown. Nixon had 7 tackles (6 solo) including a tackle for loss. He also committed a penalty. Ballentine had 5 tackles (4 solo) and a pass defensed. Valentine had 4 tackles (3 solo) and 3 passes defensed. Anthony Johnson, Jr. had 4 tackles (3 solo).
It is true that the Packers only gave up 20 points. It seems reasonable to believe that the Chargers left a ton of points on the field. Justin Herbert completed only 58% of his passes for just 260 yards, but his receivers dropped at least 5 passes, including two or possibly three that might have been touchdowns. Their first two possessions ended on dropped passes that would have been enough for the first down. Ekeler's fumble at the 3 also took points off the board when Gary recovered it.
SPECIAL TEAMS:
Nixon muffed a punt but recovered it. He had two 30-yard kickoff returns. Carlson missed a 52-yard field goal but hit from 28. He made 2 of 3 extra points. The snap and holds looked off on the misses, and indeed, on some of the kicks Carlson made as well. Whelan punted 4 times and averaged 48/.3 gross and 46.75 yards net. He had 2 inside the 20 and one touch back.
WR: 2.69
TE: 1.29
RB: 1.01
DL: 2.18
ILB: 1.95
OLB: 2.00
DB: 4.86
Photo courtesy of Dan Marlowe of USA Sports.
Comments (46)
Coldworld
November 20, 2023 at 05:59 am
That was a strange game in retrospect. Two teams that tried to shoot themselves in the foot around some good plays. I find it really hard to decide what that game means as a result.
That said, I think we do see continued growth in offense and from Valentine and Ballentine in the secondary. Kraft seems to have better natural balance and foot speed than Musgrave. That’s going to be a very good tandem if they can develop true proficiency as blockers and thus get both out on the field more together.
The Chargers seemed half hearted at running the ball and that played in to Barry’s light fronts fetish. Were I a Chargers fan I’d be livid with their game plan against us, with that to the fore. That said, Love was a tad better than Herbert on the day. I think we’d all take that. In a sense the Chargers showed us what issues with catchers and the run game make a good QB look like. I have to say that is something I do find encouraging.
In amongst this, the O line was pretty poor. I didn’t think Tom or Jenkins had a great game. Myers was flat out bad and Runyon not better. Myers simply could not stand up to Day. It’s just not good enough. It’s the same every week.
To compound that, what on earth is the reason for the alternation at LT and LG? How does that help any OL? I really struggle to think of any team that willingly does that, especially at LT. To my mind Nijman and Rhyan looked better live, but that’s not the point. Pick players and run with them and let them play, let the line play together unless they are that bad you have to pull them, in which case stick with that.
To be honest, I thought none of the 4 rotated players were worse than Myers. But he’s apparently untouchable. I can only say that he’s visibly not good enough to be a starter. That this persists says to me that neither are those making the personnel decisions on the field.
What I got from this game was that our players are improving and gaining confidence. I really don’t see the coaching needle moving significantly (except further back on OL). The Chargers were a worse version of us on field and tactically and we won the turnover battle.
A good win, pleasing signs from players/roster but a game that probably doesn’t tell us much else. I hope we get lucky with the injury news though.
HawkPacker
November 20, 2023 at 06:44 am
' That said, Love was a tad better than Herbert on the day. I think we’d all take that.'
I could not watch the game but in looking at the box scores, it looked to me like Love was a lot better than Herbert. With Love passing for 322 yards and two scores and a 67.5 completion rate, I don't know how much we can ask for out of our QB.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 22, 2023 at 01:55 pm
The idea that JL is somehow "better" than Herbert is lunacy. LAC had less than our usual number of drops, and they happened at the best possible time for us. We had even fewer drops than that, and it's ALWAYS a good time for that!
Hopefully that becomes a trend. Dillon is the only Packer catching all his passes. I'd love to see a scheme that exploits that, and also gives him a little room to run. While I've been very down on our coaches and downright harsh, the offensive plays were schemed up well; or at least many were. I've never called that ability into question. It's the lack of teaching individual skills and holding players accountable for it that's been so disturbing. The progress in this game isn't directly attributable to correcting that, but it's of course still GREAT to see. I think it's foreseeable that it may be difficult to gauge if this continues in Detroit ...
NickPerry
November 20, 2023 at 06:49 am
Your comments about the O-Line, specifically Meyers are right on CW. Meyers MUST be untouchable because I watched him for several plays yesterday, just him, and it was really discouraging.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 22, 2023 at 01:57 pm
Look on the bright side Nick, Kenny Clarke put their C on skates and JB didn't have him attack him much at all.
Thegreatreynoldo
November 20, 2023 at 07:16 am
NT Turner last week had 10 tackles. This week NT Sebastion Joseph-Day had a nice day with 3 tackles, 1 TFL and 2 QB hits. Day is making $8M per year. Pretty good player, but still, we need more out of Myers and Jenkins.
Nijman gave up one of Mack's sacks. Not sure who was responsible for Mack's other sack. Jenkins gave up some pressures at the least.
The snap and hold on the missed field goal looked clean to me watching it again. The missed extra point featured a snap that was high and inside.
If the Chargers had played a cleaner game, they probably put up 34 to 37 points. The Packers could have put a more points as well: Wicks and Musgrave with some key drops. As is so often the case, turnover differential/timing plus red zone efficiency determined the outcome.
I liked a lot of what Love did. Way more passes caught in stride. I'd never really watched Justin Herbert, but the guy has a cannon and put it into some tiny windows, plus he runs well.
T7Steve
November 20, 2023 at 08:16 am
TGR, did you watch any of the Bears/Lions game or highlights?
Did the Bears expose something or were the Lions overlooking the Bears?
dobber
November 20, 2023 at 11:11 am
The Bears were unable to take advantage of a "Goff" game. He wasn't sharp.
The Lions were scoring TDs while the Bears were kicking FGs.
Minniman
November 20, 2023 at 12:43 pm
It was the Goff interceptions.
Once the Lions respected the ball again, they ground Chicago into the turf.
T7Steve
November 20, 2023 at 08:14 am
"The Chargers were a worse version of us on field and tactically and we won the turnover battle."
CW, I think they have a better team and were outcoached. Do you believe I said that???
Not necessarily outcoached so much as theirs not sticking with the running game to open up their passing more, or not having to pass at all like the Steelers and Atlanta.
So, as you say, Berry lucked out because of that and with all of their drops. Take what you can when you can get it.
dobber
November 20, 2023 at 11:14 am
The Chargers' use of their RBs is a bit baffling. LIke Jones, Ekeler puts the ball on the ground from time to time but he's a tremendous weapon and a tenacious runner. Only 12 touches given his utility as a pass-catcher?
SicSemperTyrannis
November 22, 2023 at 02:05 pm
Mike Spofford continues to do yoeman's work. He pointed out Kenny Clarke doing a LOT that doesn't show up on a stat sheet. He didn't have to point out Rashan Gary, but Campbell also showed up in some unsung ways. Mike Wahle (why isn't he on GB's coaching staff??) continues to point out what Preston Smith does that no one noticed.
In short, there were quite a few individuals who made a difference with outstanding effort on our defense, despite JB still being a dumbass.
On O, there were times GB started to play like a team :) Some nicely drawn up plays, too!
Guam
November 20, 2023 at 10:07 am
CW: Iam also struggling with the rotations at LT and RG. I played RG in high school and quickly discovered that continuity on the O-line is very important. The ability to communicate and adjust with your line mates on either side of you was a major component to success. I can only imagine that grows more important as you play at more advanced levels. Seems to be just another odd decision by the Steno/Butkus combo.
T7Steve
November 20, 2023 at 12:31 pm
I was also a right guard in high school. The tackle and I had played side by side since we were in grade school. Unless I was pulling or we were passing, our coach gave us the green light to cross block any time I thought we'd get the advantage. I just wiggled my little finger and I would cross first and he'd clean up. Got our RB All State in our senior year. We only got Mentions, of course.
Guam
November 20, 2023 at 03:25 pm
I had the same relationship with my center and we had played together since junior high. Our coach was pissed off the first time we adjusted the blocking scheme on the fly, but it worked and we had the green light afterwards! We weren't as decorated as you guys, but we won our conference championship our senior year and were proud of that - first time in a long time for our high school.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
November 20, 2023 at 06:07 am
TGR,
Always a great job & good info! Thanks!
21Savage
November 20, 2023 at 06:52 am
Emanuel* Wilson and Jayden* Reed
PeteK
November 20, 2023 at 08:43 am
We got lucky on some bad plays, but three raw rookies in D backfield, AJ, Wilson ( who looked good) Campbell injured during game and we still won against a very good QB, WR, RB, and Mack who already has 11 sacks ! :) :)
dobber
November 20, 2023 at 11:16 am
People keep hitting on that late pass that Johnston dropped, but it's not like Herbert dropped it in his breadbasket an it got away from him. It was a bit overthrown, and leading him to the boundary. Not the easiest catch, but one you want your guy to come up with.
Minniman
November 20, 2023 at 12:50 pm
The Packers got let out of Jail.
3 absolute sitter throws were dropped that should have been TD's.
Quentin Johnson dropped a deep ball home run, but the drop by Keenan Allen on what should have been a 2 step TD was the most egregious.
In reality, the Packers DB's have been lucky that poor QB play has not exposed them as badly as they could have been. This isn't to say that they are bad, just inexperienced. I expect Mahomes and Kelce to bully Ballantine, Valentine and Owens in a couple of weeks time.
Thegreatreynoldo
November 20, 2023 at 04:07 pm
That is reasonable and possible, but Mahomes does not have any receivers, either.
Minniman
November 21, 2023 at 01:07 pm
True, other than Kelce, there's no legit WR1 in KC.
I commented on another post - I just watched MVS drop a dime of a throw from Mahomes.
Admittedly, deep balls on a post route are the hardest to catch (due to the player having no visibility of the ball until the last second)........ but MVS put his hand up for $10M a season, so he has to make that catch.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 22, 2023 at 02:12 pm
Ballentine, Owens and Valentine should not be up against TEs.
Herbert in no way represents "poor QB play." LAC could have had 41 points or more, and our DBs are not the reason they didn't. Gutey has cut 6, in a season where everyone expected it to be a weakness, and 3 DB star players are down with injury.
They are not idiots?!?
Guam
November 20, 2023 at 08:53 am
Liked a lot of what I saw from Love and the receivers. Did not much like the Packer O-line play and am starting to get concerned about Jenkins. He has just not fully recovered from his ACL and is not the run blocking force or pass pro wall he was prior to the injury. CW more than adequately covered the other O-line issues and I agree with his assessment. The Packers need reinforcements from next year's draft for this O-line.
Did anyone else notice on a number of Justin Herbert's runs that the Packer D-line just about invited him to run? On several occasions I watched a very unbalanced D-line rush three guys to one side leaving a gaping hole in the middle that I could have walked through and gained 10 yards. Herbert gained a lot more. That lopsided pass rush looked to be by design. What happened to rush lane discipline and containing the QB? Pressure is good, but not if you give up big yardage to QB scrambles. At least have a QB spy if you are going to have lopsided rushes.
I will take the win and the growth from the young Packer players. Still lots to work on though.
dobber
November 20, 2023 at 11:19 am
"At least have a QB spy if you are going to have lopsided rushes."
Yeah, the Packers never really made an adjustment to "shadow" Herbert. He's not a running QB per se but very mobile.
Leatherhead
November 20, 2023 at 12:10 pm
dobber, when you play press coverage, your DBs....half your defense....end up turning their backs on the QB, so he's in stride and over the line of scrimmage before the secondary even notices.
On the other hand, when you play soft zone coverage, the DBs can keep the play in front of them and react more quickly.
If the offense puts 4 guys in the pattern, that'll usually require 6 guys in coverage. You rush 4 guys, so you have one guy left to spy on the QB....and cover the remaining eligible receive
Bitternotsour
November 20, 2023 at 01:36 pm
welcome back
Guam
November 20, 2023 at 03:17 pm
Strongly second the welcome back Leatherhead. You and your commentary have been missed. Hope everything is okay!
LeotisHarris
November 20, 2023 at 05:33 pm
Good to see you, LH.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 22, 2023 at 02:16 pm
Dobber, Herbert is a very good runner! They don't use him like that much, which is sensible. He also makes it look easy, so it doesn't stand out. That's because he's so good.
Thegreatreynoldo
November 20, 2023 at 04:16 pm
Yeah, I noticed that. In the article I mentioned that Herbert had 8 rushes but not all of the them were scrambles due to pressure, some were just that he saw vast quantities of unoccupied green space open ahead of him.
Welcome back, LH. I am still ready to butt heads! We have three week OL positions, the importance of OL is something we do agree about.
Quay did spy some. I forgot to mention that Campbell left the game and did not return. I don't know why he is in the doghouse for so many fans, but he's really solid and has sideline to sideline speed. It probably didn't help when he left and was replaced by the thumper, McDuffie. [I like McDuffie - he is a hardnosed hitter, but let's not suggest he can cover or track down mobile QBs.]
SicSemperTyrannis
November 22, 2023 at 02:14 pm
Guam, you're talking about JB doing a piss poor job.
YES
Ferrari-Driver
November 20, 2023 at 08:55 am
TGR, Super job and my favorite initial read after games. Since it's such a long trip for me, I only get to go to one game per year and that was the thrilling win over the Saints this year. I have to believe the lucky fans who got to see this one in person viewed a game as least as exciting and rewarding as did I. I am rapidly becoming a bandwagon Reed fan and he and Jordan are seeing "eye to eye". The comments from some "experts" immediately after the draft that were calling our selection of Reed in the second round a reach, seem to have missed the mark with that one. He is turning out to be a star in the 20023 draft class among receivers. Again, thanks for providing the detailed stats and comments.
dobber
November 20, 2023 at 11:21 am
"The comments from some "experts" immediately after the draft that were calling our selection of Reed in the second round a reach, seem to have missed the mark with that one."
He's showing that the "non-round 1 WR need time to develop" mantra doesn't always hold. There's a lot of Amon-Ra St. Brown in what he does, and St. Brown emerged very quickly, too.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 22, 2023 at 02:24 pm
Reed should be considered our #1 WR, at least by JL. He gets open a LOT.
Hopefully he isn't seriously injured, and comes back 100% quickly. I don't expect him to be able to play in Detroit though.
Doubs and Wicks? Tucker Kraft breakout game?
tobinrote
November 20, 2023 at 09:43 am
Love finally made some routine throws, but i find little to get excited about when what I took away from watching it was the real hero of the game was the late autumn sun in Lambeau which hand guarded Keenan Allen's eyes. is it just me, or is the general quality of NFL football in serious decline? it is rare to watch a well played game between competitive teams.
T7Steve
November 20, 2023 at 09:56 am
You have to admit that it was about time they dialed up a crosser for Watson in the end zone for a TD.
CW has been complaining all season and maybe last season too, about that being his best most comfortable rout and they've only been using him basically on the go routs.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 22, 2023 at 02:35 pm
Steve, yes. I identified #9 as a replacement for the MVS role as soon as he was drafted, and he instantly showed he's an improvement over MVS. His connection with JL10 has to materialize sometime, right? RIGHT??
croatpackfan
November 20, 2023 at 11:31 am
"... the real hero of the game was the late autumn sun in Lambeau which hand guarded Keenan Allen's eyes."
It is not on Packers or luck that Herbert and Allen did not take in consideration weather conditions and other things on which you can not have impact to. You'll not throw dart into the chest of the blind (or blinded by Sun) player. Only what we can say is: "Thank you!"
And take notice on that so you wouldn't do that to yourself in similar situation in the future...
SicSemperTyrannis
November 22, 2023 at 02:26 pm
Tobinrote,
definitely quality is in decline league-wide. JL still misses the easy layup, which is 100% correctable. Should be priority #1.
Getting the O line to play well is another task ...
dobber
November 20, 2023 at 11:28 am
The LT platoon is very interesting. They seem to be auditioning for 2024...even though I think we all know they need to draft a T. I haven't seen if Runyan was hurt and that got Rhyan snaps, or if it was a little more test-driving at the position. A real platoon would've been more snaps there.
With the injuries to RBs and to Deguara, it's not a surprise that they're seeming to play more 11 personnel, but that also helps to get Reed on the field. Reading more NFL correspondents who agree Reed is now the #1 WR (if they truly have one). It's a little bit "what have you done for me lately", but he's clearly got chemistry with 10.
The DL rotation has clearly shaken out with Wooden being the 5th guy. This has held up for a couple games now.
Nixon is a tough dog...got beat up on a return but didn't really miss any time. He's quietly had a very good season.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 22, 2023 at 02:41 pm
OL: Mt Caleb has yet to play a down in the NFL. That's sheer incompetence! Tom should not be playing OT, especially when he's hurt. He doesn't have the size to be dominant, even though he's doing well. Maybe Nijman never plays well unless he always plays? They seem to have figured out that he's not a switch tackle. Between him and Jones and Walker, why does Tom need to play RT? C is our weakness. Or perhaps JRJ is the weak link in that combination?
SO many ways to fix this, yet they don't give Rhyan meaningful snaps, and they aren't improving the situation at LT, which can't be helping Jenkins.
DL: they need to play more at the position. #99 Ford is needed, especially against a team like Detroit that runs all over us.
White92
November 20, 2023 at 06:32 pm
First rounder continues to be a red shirt for the Packers. "Gutey" gonna "Gutey"
SicSemperTyrannis
November 22, 2023 at 02:44 pm
Yeah LVN not playing more is my biggest gripe with this snap count. Gutey doesn't make those decisions though.
Qoojo
November 21, 2023 at 10:20 am
Thanks. I was waiting to see the snap count this week.
When Dillon was left, I was guessing that Deguara was the next man up after Dillon, but then I was wondering if he was even active after not seeing him play.
SicSemperTyrannis
November 22, 2023 at 02:46 pm
I'm very glad to see Gutey bring in options other than DeGuara. And glad to see Leavitt cut. How many roster spots are taken up by guys you DO NOT want anywhere but ST?