Packers Snap Counts Versus The Bengals: Week Five

The Packers manage to get a win despite having several players missing.  Kevin King, Yiadom, Henry Black, LB Hamilton, and TE Davis all see action.

The Packers elevated Ben Braden and Equanimeous St. Brown for the third time this season from the Practice Squad.  Players can only be activated twice per season (St. Brown was elevated last week as a Covid Replacement Player, which does not count towards the limit on elevations).  If the Packers want St. Brown to see the field again, they will have to sign him to the 53-man roster or use him as a Covid Replacement if another player gets placed on the Covid list in the future. 

The inactive players were Jenkins, Heflin, Myers (due to injury) plus Vernon Scott, Rasul Douglas and Jaylon Smith.  Jenkins had been listed as questionable.  Vernon Scott was not listed on the injury report this week, so he appears to have been a healthy scratch.

Dennis Kelly, who did not practice this week due to an undisclosed illness, and Jordan Love were active but did not play.  Jake Hanson finally saw the field, though it was only on special teams.

 

Player Snaps % STs
Nijman 64 100 9 - 29%
Runyan 64 100 9 - 29%
Patrick 64 100  
Newman 64 100  
Turner 64 100  
Braden     14 - 45%
Hanson     9 - 29%
       
Rodgers   100  
Love DNP DNP  
       
Adams 58 91  
Lazard 55 86 1 - 3%
Cobb 35 55  
St. Brown 12 19 11- 35%
Rodgers 5 8 6 - 19%
Taylor 4 6 18 - 58%
       
Tonyan 38 59 1 - 3%
Lewis 29 45  
Deguara 13 20 15 - 48%
Davis 4 6 7 - 23%
       
Jones 44 69  
Dillon 21 33 7 -23%
Hill 2 3 13 - 42%
       

 

The statistics suggest that the Packers ran the ball well.  Aaron Jones carried the ball 14 times for 103 yards (7.4-yard average) and Dillon had 8 carries for 30 yards (a 3.8-yard average).  I suppose that they did, but it was a case of feast or famine.  To be fair, the Bengals have a good defensive front four - the other team gets paid, too.

Jones had runs of 14, 11, 3 (on the first possession), 3, 0, 1, 8, 1, 5, 4, 57, 0 and in overtime -1, -4 and -1 yards.  Three of the runs were good for first downs (the 14, the 11 and the 57 yarder).  Dillon carried the ball for 3 yards and 2 yards in the first half, both on first and 10 situations.  In the second half, Dillon had runs of 7, 17, -1, 0, 1, and 1 yard.  Only the 17 yard run picked up a first down.  Dillon did catch 4 passes on 4 targets for 49 yards, all in the first half, including one for a touchdown.  Jones had a big hole on his long run but also made two players miss to turn it into a huge gain. 

The line overall provided pretty good pass protection. During the game I thought Rodgers seemed to have "happy feet" at times even when there was not much pressure.  Pro Football Focus' Game Recap  noted that when throwing in 2.5 seconds or less Rodgers attempted 17 passes for just 70 yards, a 4.1 yards per attempt average.  On longer developing plays (2.6 seconds or longer), Rodgers attempted 21 passes good for 274 yards (a whopping 13.4 yards per attempt).  Those 21 passes included 9 explosive pass plays (apparently defined as gains of 15 yards rather than the more common 20 yards).  In any event, PFF suggested on first review that Nijman and Runyan each allowed 3 pressures.  Patrick allowed zero, per PFF's first impressions.

Davante Adams caught 11 passes on 16 targets for 206 yards.  Cobb and Marcedes Lewis chipped in with two receptions each good for 34 and 30 yards, respectively.  Lazard caught both of his targets and gained 6 yards.  Tonyan caught one of two targets for 8 yards. Kylin Hill saw 2 snaps and caught a pass for 5 yards.  Aaron Rodgers has passer ratings over 100 in the first and second halves and in overtime as well.  He finished with a 102.9 rating.

Player Snap % STs
Savage 67 100  
Amos 67 100  
Stokes 65 97  
Sullivan 58 87 1 - 3%
King 42 63  
Yiadom 26 39 21 - 68%
Black 19 28 22 - 71%
Jean-Charles 1 1 15 - 48%
       
Campbell 59 88  
P. Smith 49 73  
Gary 47 70 1 - 3%
Barnes 23 34 6 - 19%
Garvin 20 30 9 - 29%
Hamilton 19 28 5 - 16%
Burks 18 27 22 - 71%
Summers     22 - 71%
McDuffie     15 - 48%
       
Clark 54 81  
Lowry 46 69 13 - 42%
Keke 31 46 6 - 19%
Slaton 13 19 16 - 52%
Lancaster 13 19 9 - 29%
       

The defensive line statistically got good pressure on Burrows.  His passer rating was 139.1 in the first half but for the entire game he finished at 85.5.  By my stopwatch, Burrows had 7.34 to 7.4 seconds on the 70 yard touchdown pass to Chase at the end of the first half.  Before that throw, Burrows had 64 passing yards in the first half.  Watching the play, initially the Packers rushed four (Clark, Keke, Smith and Gary) but both Preston Smith and Gary dropped back into coverage after initially rushing.  Burrows was sacked 3 times and hit 8 times.  Lowry batted down two passes. 

Slaton had 2 quarterback hits, and the Packers got 1 QB hit from Burks, Barnes, Gary, Smith, Lowry, and Garvin.  Earlier this week I noted that the Bengals were weak at center and especially at right guard.  Per the PFF article, their right guard allowed 7 pressures and the center 3 more.  Their tackles each allowed two and the left guard one for a total of 15 pressures on 26 passing attempts.

The Bengals only rushed the ball 5 times for 25 yards in the first half.  They finished with 24 rushes for 103 yards and a 4.3 yard average.  Amos and Campbell finished with 8 tackles each (6 and 5 solo, respectively).  The Packers got tackles for loss from Barnes, Smith, Campbell, and two from Clark.  Campbell did a nice job in coverage as well: PFF noted that he allowed 22 yards on 35 coverage snaps, and had 3 stops as well.  Jean-Charles got one snap, though he allowed a rushing touchdown.  Hamilton played quite a few snaps.

Whichever defensive back that had to cover Jamar Chase probably had a tough day statistically.  Anyone who did not have to cover Chase probably fared well, except for the person who allowed the completion to Tee Higgins for the two-point conversion.  Kevin King allowed just 17 yards in coverage before he left the game. 

Special teams is not fixed.  The Packers allowed kickoff returns of 44, 28 and 22, good for a 30 yard average, while the Packers returned one kickoff 16 yards.  The temperature at game time was 80 degrees.  There were southerly winds at 8 M.P.H. with gusts to 12 M.P.H.  Crosby managed touchbacks on 3 of his 7 kickoffs.  The Bengals got touchbacks on 3 of 4.  Crosby missed 3 of his 7 field goals.  Blocking on the right side of the line has not been fixed as shown by the tweet by Justis Mosqueda.  It shows lots of penetration on the right side of the line on Crosby's game winning attempt with the score tied 22-22.  All three of the field goals that Crosby missed were pulled to the left.

WRs: 2.64

RBs: 1.05

TEs: 1.31

DL:  2.34

OLB: 2.01

ILB: 1.50

DB: 5.15

 

 

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 11, 2021 at 05:08 am

"If the Packers want St. Brown to see the field again"

It's pretty desperate to put him out there, he clearly lacks the mentals to play in the NFL. I'm actually relieved to hear he's unlikely to see the field again.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 11, 2021 at 05:26 am

Well, GB doubled St. Brown's ST snaps. If someone catches Covid, he could be elevated again that way. I'd place a small bet that GB signs ESB to the 53 at some point.

Lazard now has 97 receiving yards in 5 games. I am thinking that the 2nd round RFA tender might turn into a rt. to match tender unless he gets it in gear. Lazard is the clear #2 WR with MVS out for at least two more weeks. [I wonder if Cobb runs almost as many routes as Lazard despite the disparity in their respective snap counts.]

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Coldworld's picture

October 11, 2021 at 08:21 am

What I do not understand is why? ESB is hardly excelling on STs. He does not seem to be adding much on O and we saw him obviously completely whiff on one block. I just do not see his absence as likely to detract from the O and I can’t believe that we can’t find a better ST player. Head scratching for me.

Lazard is rarely getting targeted. What happened since this time last year, before his injury? Is he less of a player or are we just less open to throwing to him? A similar question would be what has happened to Tonyan in the red zone? We seem to have stopped drawing up plays for him. Overall, the offensive imagination seems to have diminished. I’m not sure why.

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Johnblood27's picture

October 11, 2021 at 10:30 am

If analytics are worth anything at all, ESB should be O-U-T and MLF should be aware of his regression in utilization of the players on the field, eg. Lazard and Tonyan.

With MVS down, Lazard and Tonyan should be eating up some extra touches, instead... crickets.

Malik Taylor has EARNED some PT over the past 2 seasons. He needs to get a chance.

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LambeauPlain's picture

October 11, 2021 at 10:34 am

ESB showed excellent blocking during his rookie year. Watch some of AJs best runs in 2018 and you will see #19 making blocks for him.

What has happened to him? The WR screen to Lazard was set up well and not only did he miss his man, he never touched him! Since his rookie year injuries and and when healthy (rarity) he has been "shrugging through" his on field opportunities. He doesn't play like a player who "wants it". Taylor, on the other hand, does.

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October 11, 2021 at 07:16 am

I agree and his blocking sucked also on the quick pass out to the flat,,, he missed badly.. let him figure it out on the practice squad

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Guam's picture

October 11, 2021 at 07:40 am

I just don't get the fascination with St. Brown. Malik Taylor is a better player and yet he sits and St. Brown plays. St. Brown doesn't catch well, can't play special teams and is a horrible blocker. What does the coaching staff see that many of us don't?

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 11, 2021 at 07:48 am

I'd like to see Taylor get those snaps too. ESB is interesting from a measurements perspective but he's horrible on the field. How do you have a loaf like that on the WR screen?

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Coldworld's picture

October 11, 2021 at 08:14 am

Taylor looked to have come on in the pre-season and plays hard. He’s not quite as tall but he’s arguably heavier, faster and certainly tougher mentally and physically.

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 11, 2021 at 07:42 pm

The reason E quan remains on the squad is because Gutedkunst drafted him.

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Johnblood27's picture

October 11, 2021 at 10:54 am

Yeah,, somebody elses practice squad...

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 11, 2021 at 05:28 am

One of the interesting stats is Deguara going down from 33% of snaps last week to just 20% this week, with Davis getting snaps on offense.

On STs, Slaton picked up some snaps both on defense and on STs. Tonyan only got 1 ST snap: I guess he lost the job of being the guy blocking on the right side against Cincy. Didn't help. Newman played 24% of ST snaps last week: this week a big fat zero. While Ditto For Patrick actually happened, I don't think starting centers play STs in GB, so his zero ST snaps doesn't surprise me.

I can't say I noted Hamilton and I am not sure where Burks lined up. Anyway, I included Preston Smith, Gary, Garvin and Hamilton at OLB to reach 2.01 and put Burks in the ILB camp. 3.51 LBs played per snap - the distribution of exactly where they played and how much would require watching a lot of tape.

Edit: I meant to note that many posters feel that the TEs were chipping a lot, and possibly Lazard and the 3rd WR were doing a lot of dirty work as well. That might also explain why the ball did not always come out fast since chipping by definition delays the route. It might also explain the lack of production from the tight ends and WRs?

Also, I find it curious that PFF mentions Campbell being in coverage for 35 snaps when Burrows attempted 26 passes and ran 3 times (with one - the QB draw - being an obvious designed run). Apparently there can be more coverage snaps than attempts plus scrambles?

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Coldworld's picture

October 11, 2021 at 08:19 am

Hamilton was the source of pressure that disrupted at least one play late on, coming around to force Burrows to take off to his left.

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4thandinches's picture

October 11, 2021 at 06:13 am

I'm ready to see more Slaton. Glad to see his snap count on the rise!

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Grandfathered's picture

October 11, 2021 at 07:09 pm

Larry McCarren said that Slayton lined up over nose allowed Clark to play the outside shoulder of the guard and avoid double teams. Clark was able to rush better from inside. I agree that Slaton could be used more in this manner, and hope to see more of it.

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Lphill's picture

October 11, 2021 at 06:23 am

Would like to see Heflin getting more snaps , Slaton seems to be productive even with his limited snaps .

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Coldworld's picture

October 11, 2021 at 08:23 am

Slaton was one reason Lowry looked better as I saw it, benefitting from Slaton’s extra push

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October 11, 2021 at 07:44 am

With some obvious exceptions, I liked what I saw from our wounded defense. Down the Packers two best defenders (Z. and Jaire), I expected the Bengals to run up at least 30 points and they only got 22. The D-line was active and aggressive for the second week in a row and both Lowery and Slaton played pretty well. Slaton doubled his snaps from last week and I would like to see them double again next week.

Very much looking forward to the debut of Jaylon Smith. It has been a long time since the Packers had two good ILBs. Add Barnes in as quality depth and the ILB position might actually look pretty good!

Thanks TGR for always getting this article out so promptly the following morning. This has become my second favorite CHTV piece behind Jersey Al's weekly "Confessions" article. I learn something from your piece every week!

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Coldworld's picture

October 11, 2021 at 08:26 am

King was actually decent until a player took him out. Yiadom is a good ST player but a big downgrade on D. That’s an area to watch, especially if King is injured.

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jont's picture

October 11, 2021 at 09:00 am

This is a CHTV piece I look forward to each week.

Today I was surprised to see Slaton had only 13 snaps. During the game it seemed he was involved and making his presence felt over and over. I can see why so many here were high on him in pre-season.

Also, Deguara isn't making an impact, and Tonyan's production is down. Are the TEs blocking more and catching less because of the O-line issues?

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Grimbo's picture

October 11, 2021 at 10:58 am

St. Brown getting more snaps than Malik Taylor? The Packers clearly need another wide receiver to generate more offense. Without MVS, it’s Adams and Cobb. That’s it. Taylor showed a lot of promise in the preseason. He sits while St. Brown plays? Makes no sense. Get Taylor some snaps and some targets! Time to see what he’s got!

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LambeauPlain's picture

October 11, 2021 at 10:58 am

Z may have played his last game for Green Bay at a time when he had the table set for a great year. Dang. The Team could have really used him...especially now.

I also read he was grumbling through his agent to Packer Mgmt for more money this year. Mgmt said no. Then he was not voted Team Captain. That raised my eyebrows. Then came "a more serious back injury than thought." Then surgery and on the shelf.

I hope this is not sliding into a M. Bennet situation where an undisclosed injury was finally disclosed and he demanded to go on IR as he packed it in and eventually walked away with a lot of Packer cash.

I hope Z is not looking ahead to his next team but reading he is disgruntled with the team troubles me as he sits on IR.

Will Jaylon Smith be used on the Edge rotation? He's done it before. He's also a good blitzer from the middle and on stunts.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 11, 2021 at 12:21 pm

Yes, those thoughts occurred to me about ZaDarius. However, the Packers did clear him to play and he took snaps in game one. GB is known for being conservative medically. But my response is really that a fan can't really know what's going on in this situation.

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ImaPayne's picture

October 11, 2021 at 01:01 pm

1.Shocked beyond belief, King made a tackle. First time I ever saw him make a tackle by himself.
2.Packer Org are idiots. Lions need receivers and St Browns brother is on the team, trade the guy and get a pick for him or something. Oh this, he is our emergency guy is bs, they dont even use him. Get something for him while you can. He never amounted to anything.
3. For those of you with short memories, Crosby had this problem once before when he couldnt hit the side of a barn from 10 feet. Once he works his way out of it, he will be solid like a rock again. give him time.
Good game really. Cinci is a good team they just played crappy yesterday but we will take the win

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October 11, 2021 at 03:28 pm

Thanks for the round up TGR, like others here, I do really look forward to this. Random thoughts: Thought the Packers had to find a way to get max protect with how good the Bengal's D line is. Looks like the Packers were protecting Degurara from another knee injury, can't tell with how seldom he was on the field. The weakness of MLF offense showed up again with both the lost of MVS at WR and Deguraua unable to preform at F-Back. After the first quarter, most of Rodgers snaps were from the shotgun or pistol. But give both MLF and Rodgers credit for adjusting with swing and curl routes out of the backfield to expose the Bengal's LB pressing at the LOS. The injuries to the secondary worry me, it is so early in the season, and the loss of edge playing these positions is very real. One other point, the Bengals really wanted this game bad. The intensity was playoff level from the kick-off. What a chippy bunch. Bet the Packers were than happy to stuff that down their gut.

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