Without these guys having played a single down in the NFL you are making wild claims. Read up on Musgrave and you will see his ceiling is extremely high and he is a better receiver than Washington right now.

Washington is rumored to have a knee injury. Word is that is why he is sliding. Some say he may not be available until 2024.

Why dont you retire from this board. Crybaby.

Geezzzhead. You wouldn't pick a guy with a knee injury................but that's EXACTLY why Washington fell to the later third round.
Given how the board fell, my choices would have been:
Round 1 Edge Myles Murphy (pretty close call between him and Van Ness)
Round 2.1 S Brian Branch (very hard to refuse the top Safety on the board when the Packers need one)
Round 2.2 DT Gervon Dexter. Yes, three defensive players in the first 3 picks. Why ? Value
Round 3 I'm good with TE Tucker Kraft here. I liked TE Washington (so many of us did), but have no idea how bad his knee is (which caused him to drop).

Still need a WR in my version of the draft (I want A.T.Perry in round 4 and would be willing to move up to get him).

That would fill a great many needs.

Apparently there are some injury concerns with Washington. Not certain what for sure, but that's what I'm reading online. I'd rather have a pass catching threat than another Marcedes Lewis but only time will tell. I'm excited about the two TEs we drafted and can't wait to see them paired with Love and our young WR group!

Ageed!

You were on it, DoubleJ! Well done.

He was NFL.com's #1 rated TE. Probably Gutey's #1 too. He and Love can learn together, along with all the rest of the youngsters. It may not be pretty at times this year, but sure should be fun to watch the growth.

Musgrave's ceiling is higher than Kincaid's and Van Ness is much better than any EDGE taken today.

You would've been disappointed had the Pack done what you suggested. All the 2nd tier edges (McDonald,Murphy, Anudike-Uzomah, Hall, Foskey and Ojulari) went between the Packers 1st pick #13 and their 2nd pick #42. They got much better value with Van Ness and Musgrave.

I thought for sure Hyatt was next. Oh well . Now onto finding some diamonds in the later rounds , unless the 3rd round is a charm for a change.

We are now out of R2 and neither Washington or Hyatt have been drafted. I think the consensus is Hyatt and Washington are not as good as the media has said.

Actually glad we passed on Hyatt who I heard from an NFC scout who met with him that Hyatt has personality/behavior you don't want to deal with. Not a Packer player apparently!

Conversely, you are ridiculously wrong. The people who are professional talent evaluators decided that he was the guy, at that spot, and he was the pick.

Like so many, you're unafraid of your ignorance, so you have that going for you.

Unless Gutey drafted Mayer or Tucker who both can play inline & move TE the Packers choose one of the two best move TE's who is going to inject instant offense. Kincaid or Musgrave were the TE's, or should I say the big/power Slot WR's I wanted in the draft.

As I am typing this the Packers just selected Tucker Kraft TE. Love it! They have their in-line TE but one who is also a pretty good receiving TE.

Good lord. The same nonsense said about Love. You're not an NFL talent evaluator.

Outside of QB, TE is the hardest position for rookies. You cannot expect a rookie TE to come in and be your TE1. Doesn't matter if he is the #1 pick or the #256 pick.

Gutekunst knows he can’t afford to miss.

Splitpea1, I think Washington not passing physical points to both Musgrave & Reed having been readily cleared. That gives me some consolation.

I felt exactly the same - but after years decades-style doing this, there’s usually good reasoning. Not like when Ted was throwing Major League (the movie) backstop killers.

Whoever said Gute even liked Washington? These narratives take off and people just run with them. Its a known fact teams use some top 30 visits on guys they arent interested in drafting just to throw other teams off. Gamesmanship. Ive said it for months that they werent taking him and nobody listened to me.

Think bigger, stronger, faster, younger Lazard. That is what you have with Musgrave. Offensively....not special teams!

Spot on GregC!

BOTH Kraft & Musgrave are big play guys. This is huge.

I’ll say this too, being a huge Washington fan. He not clearing the Packers’ medical should signal both Musgrave and Reed are healthy & good to go.

Also, HUGE.

Heres the thing. in the wide zone offense, tight ends dont have to be devastating drive blockers. They just have to have the agility to get outside the edge defender and get themselves between the defender and running back. The wide zone is a 2 read play so even if the tight end gets beat, the running back has 2 options. Shannon Sharpe was 228 pounds and a piss poor run blocker and yet Terrell Davis ran for 2000 yards. Its always athleticism over power for tight ends in an offense like this.

Did you watch his highlight video? He is a middle of the field eating machine!

Gimmie a break Georgia! Seriously....is that the best you can provide? AR is old news....let it go! Furthermore, I have posted before all the talent AR had at WR & TE in 2008 when he started & it will be significantly more talent than Love will have yet for quite a few years.

For all you doubters & haters regarding the Musgrave pick!

Per Packers Wire....."One of the most athletic tight ends ever (98th percentile). Compares favorably in terms of size and athleticism to Travis Kelce."

Absolutely love this selection! Instant offense! Tell me how a defense is likely to stop him with Watson, Doubs, and maybe Reed on the field along with AJ & Dillon.

Confused about this pick? Just watch the highlight video. 75% of the replays are Musgrave catching passes over the middle.

Enough said :)