Packers Release WR/KR Jeremy Ross
Ross was released after muffing a kickoff that led to a turnover on Sunday against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Wide receiver/return specialist Jeremy Ross has been released by the Green Bay Packers, general manager Ted Thompson announced on Monday.
Ross's release comes one day after muffing a kickoff that led to a turnover and eventually a Cincinnati Bengals touchdown that put the Packers in a 14-0 hole in the first quarter.
He didn't play much on offense, but Ross did have one catch for eight yards in his brief Packers career, and actually filled in as an emergency running back on Sunday.
The attention now turns to what the Packers will do on returns with Ross out of the picture.
Head coach Mike McCarthy has several times expressed a desire to relieve Randall Cobb's special teams duties because of his value to the offense, but he's also the most experienced and reliable returner on the team.
Even with Ross on the team, Cobb was still asked to return kicks and punts in the most crucial situations through the first three games of the season.
During the preseason, the Packers gave an extended look to cornerback Micah Hyde on punt returns, he did a credible job averaging 12.5 yards on two attempts and making four fair catches.
It's possible the Packers could use Hyde and Cobb in a time share much like they were doing with Ross.
During training camp, the Packers gave a few opportunities to running back Johnathan Franklin, but he had only one return in a preseason game for 14 yards.
Perhaps after an impressive showing on Sunday on offense, the Packers will be more inclined to give Franklin more opportunities with the ball in his hands.
There's always the opportunity the Packers sign a free agent for a return specialist as well. A few weeks ago they had running back Joe McKnight in for a workout. McKnight has third-best all-time kick return average.
It's worth noting that the Packers will be short-handed at wide receiver without Ross, however, down to just four players: Cobb, Jordy Nelson, James Jones and Jarrett Boykin.
Fellow wide receivers Charles Johnson and Myles White could be in line for promotions from the practice squad, as could be running back Michael Hill is injuries linger at his position.
Ross played in eight regular-season games over the past two seasons for the Packers. He averaged 17.9 yards on nine kickoff returns, 20.5 yards on six punt returns
Comments (125)
September 23, 2013 at 02:31 pm
Hate to see anyone lose their job but Ross just wasn't getting it done and really looked lost back there when returning punts or kicks.
September 23, 2013 at 02:33 pm
Not terribly surprising.
As far as offense goes, I feel like I saw him a lot more often than Boykin. Where could we find snap counts for each player?
September 23, 2013 at 02:50 pm
Snap counts: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts
Week 3 not up yet, obviously.
Through 2 weeks, Ross had 6 offensive snaps and Boykin had 1.
September 23, 2013 at 02:54 pm
Nice. Thank you.
Really negligible contributions for both, but it is curious that Ross has had more than Boykin, imo.
September 23, 2013 at 04:47 pm
Ross was playing in a RB type role also. And not just yesterday when all the other backs were hurt.
September 23, 2013 at 02:34 pm
let's bring in Joe McKnight. We need experience and reliability.
PackerAaron
September 23, 2013 at 03:35 pm
I heard from someone who would know that McKinght's workout for the Packers was terrible.
September 23, 2013 at 03:59 pm
Chris. Rainey.
September 23, 2013 at 04:27 pm
I guess if McKnight looked good, they would've signed him then, but maybe he's still better than Ross now.
September 23, 2013 at 04:30 pm
I heard that McKnight has an arrest warrant out for something, doubt they'd sign him.
September 24, 2013 at 10:17 am
McKnight has a warrant out for his arrest due to traffic-related offenses. Packers won't touch him.
September 23, 2013 at 02:35 pm
Three games into the season and TT/MM are still making preseason decisions.... Funny how fans had Ross all figured out but the braintrust didn't. ... Look for more 'on the run' corrections this season, especially if GB plays similar to the Cincy game down the road. ... Folks, the Pack is rebuilding, this year & next.
September 23, 2013 at 02:40 pm
Yeah but keep in mind many of these same fans had Franklin figured out and wanted him cut in the preseason too.
September 23, 2013 at 02:50 pm
All Franklin needed was more PT. ... Plus, he was a highly successful RB at a major college program. ... No way he was not making the roster. ... That was an easy call. ... Some fans need to return to their roots ...soccer.
September 23, 2013 at 02:51 pm
Bingo. Fans sure think highly of their own scouting abilities, when in reality they have no freakin clue.
September 23, 2013 at 05:11 pm
true
September 23, 2013 at 04:18 pm
Exactly. And some people posting on here have Datone Jones pegged as a certified bust, three weeks into his career.
September 23, 2013 at 08:01 pm
Yeah, and some of youzguys were saying to be patient with Harrell. (Either the QB or the first rounder. Take your pick.) If there had been Packer blogs back then, there would have been people saying Rich Campbell & Tony Mandarich deserved more time to develop.
Sometimes the fans are right, sometimes not. Sometimes the team is right, sometimes not.
September 24, 2013 at 11:03 am
There's a little bit of difference between a preseason worth of patience and four years, don't you think?
September 23, 2013 at 02:52 pm
there is no NFL team now or in history where the roster at the end of the season was the one starting at the beginning of the season. and not just due to injuries. there are players released and added due to performance reasons all the time. Fact is that Cobb is a much better option, but he is very valuable to the offense. Nobody else stepped up during preseason, so now a returner has to be signed or someone who is potentially worse than Ross has to be used. that criticism is bogus. i remember how fans were excited before the first big blunder vs the 49ers that there was a real option to Cobb as a returner. Ok, didn't turn out that way, but can't fault TT or MM for trying...
September 23, 2013 at 02:58 pm
You're just making excuses for both TT and MM. ... Ross should have been waived during the offseason. ... Then as an org you are forced to look for better choices.
September 23, 2013 at 03:41 pm
had Ross been waived and someone else signed and made the same mistake, then I'm sure you'd post "they should've kept Ross"...
September 23, 2013 at 04:16 pm
You're drawing unfounded conclusions. .. Quit believing you have it all figured out. ... You don't.
September 23, 2013 at 06:45 pm
glad you have it all figured out. so just to see: who should the Packers sign as PR / KR, or who should they play? Let's see whether you can suggest someone who will be good for the team...
September 23, 2013 at 07:09 pm
The PR is already on the roster (KR doesn't matter) ... His name is R. Cobb. ... RC had all of 5 touches against the Bengals for a measly 54 yards.
Hey ... Here's a good idea... Let's play Sneneca Wallace the rest of the season.... We'll have a healthy AR for sure by playoff time.
September 24, 2013 at 09:06 am
if KR doesn't matter then they could've kept Ross... At least he is cheap. So we really don't care about KR, just PR, as KR is just supposed to take a knee in the end zone. I can do that. Sign me up. I'll do it for less than Ross even.
PackerAaron
September 23, 2013 at 03:45 pm
"Folks, the Pack is rebuilding, this year & next"
Please put the crack pipe down.
September 23, 2013 at 03:54 pm
Apparently they are smoking the same stuff that Cow was...
September 23, 2013 at 04:14 pm
Come on Nags
Use some deeper analysis & try to stay objective... As BD often said ... "The times .... they are a chang'in".
My hope is that TT retires after 2013. (he's 60+). Then a younger, more innovative and bolder GM can determine McCarthy's fate. ... Probably after season 2014. ... Similar to Sherman's fate back in 2005.
September 24, 2013 at 11:05 am
"My hope is that TT retires after 2013."
Count yourself among the few...
September 23, 2013 at 05:15 pm
Smart teams are always building.The 2010 team was rebuild during the year ,how did that work out?
September 23, 2013 at 04:05 pm
Whatever you say, Captain Hindsight.
September 24, 2013 at 07:05 am
hogwash... this year is going to be a very successful year.
September 24, 2013 at 10:18 am
The Pack is rebuilding? LOL
September 23, 2013 at 02:36 pm
Trade for Josh Gordon, put Franklin on returns.
*sigh*
Yeah I know, it's just wishful thinking....
September 23, 2013 at 02:53 pm
Why would trading for someone we don't need be wishful thinking? It would be unnecessary.
September 23, 2013 at 03:17 pm
The Packers currently have 3 receiver they can count on. One goes down, and all the plays with 3 WR go out the window. And you should watch how many 3 WR sets they run.
September 23, 2013 at 02:39 pm
"Folks, the Pack is rebuilding, this year & next."
Um, chill.
September 23, 2013 at 02:44 pm
Fans need to do a little research. GB has another 15 or so FAs (mostly UFA) after this season. Many starters. All those late round picks that Thompson loves aren't going to make up the talent gap that is inevitable. ... And AR can't do it all.
September 23, 2013 at 06:23 pm
With what more late round picks to develop replacing the late round picks who did not develop.
September 23, 2013 at 02:56 pm
I would love to have McKnight returning kicks. Can't beloved he is still on the market.
September 23, 2013 at 02:58 pm
Yeah, I think he makes a lot of sense with our current needs (KR/RB). But, I really can't see them going with just 4 WRs.
September 23, 2013 at 03:29 pm
Yeah, I agree...
Does anyone know if there are any WR-KR/PR available?
I would say Joe McKnight, but they are thin at WR right now.
September 23, 2013 at 03:32 pm
Of course, if one of these RB injuries proves serio....nevermind...knocking on all the wood.
September 23, 2013 at 03:57 pm
No doubt...
I wonder if Charles Johnson might be the guy they bring up. They have Hyde who could return punts.
I don't know if Johnson could return kicks but they could put Franklin in there possibly.
Would have been nice if they would have signed Tandon Doss.. He returned a punt 80 yards yesterday.
September 23, 2013 at 04:48 pm
I was thinking Roell Preston might be willing to take the minimum.
September 23, 2013 at 09:43 pm
Damn. Now that's a deep cut.
September 26, 2013 at 09:34 am
I seen Desmond Howard on a pregame show Sunday...apparently he is available
September 24, 2013 at 07:07 am
the fact that he is still on the market ought to tell us something... it appears that there is something that is obvious to all 32 teams that we do not know.
September 24, 2013 at 11:41 am
There usually is, which is why when everyone was clamoring for McKnight I was non-committal. If a guy is on waivers at almost any point there is usually a reason. Next time when you see a guy is available, ask yourself why is he available. And if you don't know, assume there is something.
September 24, 2013 at 12:10 pm
I agree, but then you do have to look at guys like Dujuan Harris last year. He was a street free agent, and came in and gave life to the Packers running game.
Sometimes players go to a place and it just works.
I agree that there is usually a reason why a player is available, but sometimes you can find players that really can contribute.
September 24, 2013 at 10:21 am
I can believe he's still on the market. He has a warrant out for his arrest.
September 23, 2013 at 03:02 pm
And the year after that, they will have UFAs, and the year after that, and the year after that... Who cares? If anything, that fact supports the opposite conclusion - win NOW while we have Raji/Shields/Jones/Finley, etc.
It sure sucks to start 1-2, but anyone who is quitting on the season has no testicular fortitude. Long way to go and not nearly time for the white flag. Go Pack.
September 23, 2013 at 03:09 pm
No one is throwing in the towel. ... Depending on AR to pull out this season is folly ... Both TT and MM have been riding AR since 2008. .. Holmgren stayed too long. Sherman stayed too long (until he was fired). ... Both TT and MM have been in GB long enough. They both hit their peak a few years back. They're both now stale and need to go home. I hate seeing AR's best years used up by incompetent management.
Even Vince knew when to leave.
September 23, 2013 at 03:25 pm
I'm sure as hell depending on AR to pull out the season! He's a 29 year old MVP-caliber, super-bowl-winning quarterback. I like those chances.
No reason to even bother with the fire TT/MM stuff. Even if it was a good idea (it's not), no reason to discuss it after 3 games. Let the season be played first, because it's a non-issue till afterwards.
September 23, 2013 at 03:31 pm
Wow, really? Would you have fired Tom Coughlin two years after they beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl the first time? Would you fire Coughlin now-- they're 0-3 and just got shellacked by the Panthers of all teams! No one wins the Super Bowl every year. Really, really glad you're not our owner!
September 23, 2013 at 04:14 pm
Funny that folks don't recognize that their freaking out over a 1-2 start is a sign of how well the coach and GM have done - they've gotten so spoiled by consistent success that they think 2 losses is the end of the world. I don't know if people think quality coaches/GMs grow on trees or what, but the overwhelming likelihood is that if we fire TT/MM, whoever comes next will be worse.
September 23, 2013 at 04:24 pm
Can you read?
"No one is throwing in the towel."
Try deeper analysis with some objectivity. GMs/HCs come & go all the time.... As with players, I rather see them exit a year early than a year late.
September 24, 2013 at 07:09 am
coughlin is the perfect example to show your patience. new york was hounding for his head, then he delivered... the man is a class act.
September 23, 2013 at 03:43 pm
Firing the head coach is a terrible idea. Firing the offensive line coach and defensive coordinator on the other hand...
September 24, 2013 at 11:45 am
If by stale you mean winning consistently then I'll take that kinda stale any day! Dumbass.
September 24, 2013 at 10:23 am
The Pack started 1-2 last season and look how that turned out. All they did was win the North and make the playoffs.
September 23, 2013 at 03:46 pm
McKnight makes the most sense. Can cut a rookie WR from IR while we are at it and fill that void. There are plenty of exceptional WR's available right now.
September 23, 2013 at 03:50 pm
"Can cut a rookie WR from IR while we are at it and fill that void."
...huh?
September 23, 2013 at 03:50 pm
Putting aside the fact that the entire league is disinterested in McKnight for some reason(s)... What's the story with McKnight and the Jets?
Do they have a dynamic returner now? I know their RBs are far from world-beating. Any known reason they cut him?
September 23, 2013 at 03:59 pm
Apparently he's a bit of a headcase.
September 23, 2013 at 04:01 pm
yes - arrived late for training camp. Failed his conditioning test, apparently dropping to his knees after 5 sprints and asking for water while cramping up. Was arrested for outstanding traffic violations, twice. once during training camp, once 3 days ago. he said he had a concussion, team doctors said he didn't. he missed multiple practices due to this "concussion". he then clashed with reporters who asked him about the concussion. overall a truly outstanding and upstanding citizen who would do great here in GB.
September 23, 2013 at 06:59 pm
This. Not to mention he just had a warrant for his arrest issued.
September 23, 2013 at 03:59 pm
I really wish we could find a Trindon Holliday. Like the Broncos did last year.
September 23, 2013 at 04:03 pm
There is a Trindon Holliday and his name is Chris Rainey.
September 23, 2013 at 04:09 pm
I just saw he worked out for the Chiefs, and reportedly rand a 4.3 40.
Is he a PR?
I know he has a shady background so I don't see the Packers looking at him. But the guy's play on the field is intriguing.
September 23, 2013 at 06:05 pm
TT is not spending a dime. What it is with the Pack fans don't they understand this team has no money. There are no deep pocket owners here who can backload contracts, play now pay later.
Why do you think we have all the undrafteds and 5,6,7th rounders? They're cheap!
TT said he will not back load any contract, its a pay as you go system.
September 23, 2013 at 08:16 pm
Is there a Ma Linger.com? If not could you make that happen please?
September 24, 2013 at 12:13 pm
What would a free agent cost this time of year? basically minimum. If someone is available that he feels can help the team, he will sign him.
Dujuan Harris last year is a good example...
September 26, 2013 at 09:43 am
Chris Rainey was cut by the Steelers after being charged with beating his girlfriend. Packers will not touch him....no way...now how
September 23, 2013 at 04:01 pm
Not thrilled with the thought of Cobb as the primary returner again. Sure you can get hurt playing receiver, but those punt-returners are in the crosshairs of those maniac special team gunners. We have three good receivers now but almost no depth if Boykins lack of PT is an indication. Can't lose Cobb, he's just too valuable.
September 24, 2013 at 11:17 am
How many players have the Packers lost on to injury punt returns? I don't remember any of the top of my head. Just curious...
September 23, 2013 at 04:27 pm
No need for a punt returner. Just rush 11 every time and block every punt.
September 23, 2013 at 04:37 pm
Kick returner? 80% are out of the end zone. A herring can fill that spot. It's best to simply reduce the amount of times your kick off return team is on the field. That wins championships. Punt returner is a trickier thing no doubt.
September 24, 2013 at 07:59 am
Excuse me, good sir. Where can I submit my application?
September 24, 2013 at 08:43 am
classic
September 24, 2013 at 11:50 am
Did you miss the release of Ross over a mishandled Kickoff?! Apparently its quite a bit more than you think it is!
September 23, 2013 at 04:40 pm
Holy MF er. Man how do some people even exist in their doom and gloom worlds. lmfao. Fire everyone! TT is a bum! MM sucks! Packers ARE an elite team. 2010 they were 1-2 and I'm sure you same people were writing them off.
September 23, 2013 at 04:50 pm
2010 was ... well, 2010. ... To expect results to always remain the same are the expectations of a fool.
Besides, NO ONE has mentioned firing anyone except those who are against it. ... Quit making up stuff. ... Sounds like you're the one over-reacting.
September 24, 2013 at 11:55 am
Jake... And I quote "Both TT and MM have been in GB long enough. They both hit their peak a few years back. They’re both now stale and need to go home."
Sound a lot like you are suggesting they should be fired! Whats wrong can't read what you yourself wrote?!
Go away dumbass!
September 23, 2013 at 04:52 pm
They started last year 1-2 after losing to two top non-divisional opponents (SF and SEA), the latter of which "should" have been a win, kind of like yesterday (depends on who you ask).
The Pack will be okay.
September 23, 2013 at 04:58 pm
GB is 1-2 versus 3 teams whose combined record is 3-6 with both SF & Wash. looking like bottom dwellars. ... This is 2013. ... Not a continuation of any other year.
September 24, 2013 at 07:19 am
the combined records now of those teams might be 3-6, but you cannot tell me that you seriously believe that those three teams are going to continue that trend all season and end up with a combined record of 16-32. Taking a partial season sample is a total joke. you have to consider that the nfl is promoting its biggest contests in the beginning of the year for the publicity sake. both packer losses could have been wins. a few mistakes here and a few there and a win becomes a loss. add in the injury toll and you see a 4th quarter meltdown. this is a good packer team. it needs time to gel. rebuilding is for other teams, not this one.
September 23, 2013 at 05:01 pm
Actually, in 2010 the Pack started the year 2-1.
September 23, 2013 at 04:55 pm
There is a new structure developing in regards to the roster 1. Cut those coming of serious injuries (Green - Bishop), 2. Cut those with below average size for their positions (D.J. Smith - Datko), 3. Cut those given ample time to improve who did not (D.J. Williams - Terrell Manning - Dezman Moses) and now Ross who was given full opportunity. Too bad, he had the size, toughness, and straight ahead speed but could not catch the ball under pressure, to use a baseball analogy, you can't steal first base.
September 23, 2013 at 05:02 pm
Datko is 6'6", 315.
September 23, 2013 at 05:55 pm
If he were 6-7 and 316 he would have made the team.
September 23, 2013 at 07:01 pm
This brought me to lol's
September 23, 2013 at 06:40 pm
Stop bringing in facts to the argument!
September 24, 2013 at 07:55 am
6'6" 315 but plays as "soft" as a marshmellow.
September 24, 2013 at 08:11 am
Maybe...but that's not what you said. You said "below average size for his position."
September 25, 2013 at 08:10 am
I stand corrected Evan.
September 23, 2013 at 06:00 pm
You hit on one recurring theme. All the people you mentioned were late round picks or undrafteds that no one else wanted due to lack of skill, size and speed. Many were injury prone as well.
TT wants to play cheap ball under the guise 'we like to develop people'. Hey how about trading for some low number one picks, guys that contribute right away: Cahill, AP, Newton.
Our late round first are really mid round seconds at the very best but we took em.
September 23, 2013 at 06:39 pm
Vikings had 3 #1 picks this year, how's that working out for them? High draft picks don't guarantee a damn thing except a higher cap number than a lower pick. I'll stick with TT over the panicky, knee-jerk over-reactors who show up after each loss.
September 23, 2013 at 09:37 pm
If you go back and look up the first round of each year's draft you'll notice there often seems to be little correlation between how early a player was picked and how successful he went on to be. Seriously! It's weird! Not uncommon at all for guys picked in the 20's to outperform guys picked in the top ten. See for yourselves.
September 24, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Most players from about #20 thru about 50 are all similarly rated. That's the case almost every year. Perry and Sherrod both carried late 1st rd grades and were rated in the mid to late 20s overall in their draft class. Finding the guy that fits your scheme and can help the most is the difference outside the top 15-20 picks. Sherrod and Bulage were good picks, same w/ Perry. You just expect them to do too much early. Perry is making a difficult transition to OLB, but he's getting better at it every week. Sherrod would be starting now if not for his devastating injury. Same w/ Bulaga, but neither had any injury concerns leaving college. Bad luck. Perry btw is essentially a rookie right now in terms of playing experience.
September 23, 2013 at 05:08 pm
Good now activate Charles Johnson
September 23, 2013 at 07:10 pm
+1 that sh@t!
September 24, 2013 at 10:29 am
That's more than likely what will happen. Franklin and Hyde on returns, activate Johnson. TT will not sign a returner. He likes the guys he has - and I'm fine with that.
September 23, 2013 at 05:13 pm
Remember when Cobb had the 103 yard kickoff return for a TD? The ST coach said Cobb had violated their return rules. I don't think our ST coach knows what in the heck he is doing. Every week there are ST blunders, every week ST coach "knows" who screwed up, every week he is very loud at practice and every week our ST teams make the fans very very nervous.
Part of the problem may have been Ross, but it also(mostly)is the ST coaching.
September 23, 2013 at 05:19 pm
legit question. Why do we need a Kickoff & Punt returner? Not sure of the %, but quite a lot of punt returns are penalized anyhow.
My two cents, put someone back who can catch it or get out of the way, Punt returns. Put an extra rusher on the punter make them make the mistake. Most punters when rushed cant focus or coffin corner kick it.
The kickoff has to go into the end zone, or kicking team is penalized by a favorable spot. I'd rather see Aaron start on the 20, than 5 any day.
September 23, 2013 at 08:10 pm
If you don't try to return kickoffs, the other guys will kick it in front of you and you'll have to pick it up or let them retake possession.
September 23, 2013 at 05:48 pm
Oh Please. Ross should have been one of the cuts in pre season. The writing was on that wall but Macarthy decided he needed someone. Funny we didnt draft someone.
Ross was slow, smallish and had poor hands.
September 23, 2013 at 05:56 pm
I have that, haven't we heard this before scenario with the dept of the Packers in question?
If we lose a receiver were hurting. If Mathews is out were hurting. If Lacy is out were hurting. If we loose one O lineman were hurting.
Maybe the real problem is our last three drafts have not produced any playmakers. Perry - teams are running right at him. They've seen the game films and determined he is the weak link.
Datone - where is the pressure from his pass rush. Why is he on the bench most of the game? If Jolly has beat him out for playing time, another wasted draft pick.
Worthy - analyst said he was a bust and third rounder at the very best. He had done nada when he was healthy.
You cannot compete when you drafts are as bad as the packers, it catches up with you.
were 1-2 and face two tough opponents and we have a team of walking wounded by game three.
September 24, 2013 at 07:19 am
Kinda hard to draft studs when we draft late in rounds. We've been fortunate to be so successful and not had to suffer many losing seasons. Although, we haven't had enough to get us over the hump to get to and win the BIG DANCE.
It's too early to say this season is a loss. There's lots of football left. But keep in mind, regardless of how this season turns out. This team will be drastically different next year. Likely 2 of 3 of the following will be gone to FA: Finley, Raji, Shields. Those will leave pretty big holes. As far as I'm concerned, it's win this year or wait for a few years to reload. Meaning you will be getting your stud draft picks over the next couple years as we slide toward the bottom half of the division. Not being a pessimist, but realist.
September 23, 2013 at 06:02 pm
Franklin could have been a return guy since we weren't using him with Starks and Lacy delivering quality running. Apparently he sucked in training camp at it.
September 23, 2013 at 06:28 pm
I think cow is jake, lol. My biggest concern is the same reoccurring injuries. Hamstring hamstring hamstring. When are we going to get a pass rusher opposite CM ?
September 23, 2013 at 07:15 pm
Jamie ... Go - Away.
September 23, 2013 at 06:35 pm
Quick Vikings sign Ross, there's another Packer reject for you.
September 23, 2013 at 07:17 pm
Mcknight has a warrent out for his arrest for failing to appear.. highly unlikely TT signs him
September 23, 2013 at 07:26 pm
Hyde can return punts. He doesn't even need to split time with Cobb in critical situations. His biggest flaw as a punt returner is being conservative - just what you want in critical situations.
Using Hyde there leaves the Pack free to bring up a WR or RB, whichever they think they need more. Personally, I know I'll get killed for this, but Starks is awesome when healthy, but he is never healthy for long. I'd cut Starks if he will not be ready to go after the bye, bring up WR Johnson, and find a RB on the street.
JakeK is not Cow42. I saw Cow42 on the game blog this weekend. His name is weiner.
September 23, 2013 at 07:40 pm
However, I always appreciated Cow. .. He was abit too emotional for me but a solid Packer fan nonetheless....
He has the same fear I have. ... The TT/MM/AR era is turning into another "fart in the wind" period in Packer history. ... Note: AR is not to blame.
September 23, 2013 at 08:21 pm
Just like the Manning era in Indy, the Young era in San Francisco, the Marino era in Miami (wait, they didn't win anything!). I guess if you don't win more Super Bowls than Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson, then what's the point huh?
September 24, 2013 at 10:56 am
Exactly.
September 24, 2013 at 10:34 am
I love how everyone thinks we can find these stud players out on the streets. LOL
September 24, 2013 at 12:25 pm
I agree with mostly what you said.
Except you can't cut Starks now. If you were going to cut him, it would have been after training camp.
I like Lacy and Franklin, but you have to have 3 RB's that can play.
Starks on a snap count can be as effective as just about any RB in the league. Problem for him is staying healthy. So after he comes back I think they will use him on maybe 5-8 rushes a game at most...
September 23, 2013 at 10:04 pm
The Jake says, "mooooooo"
September 24, 2013 at 01:10 am
Amen, Bibbon. Jake, Cow, Ma, et al. are all the same troll. Why are we feeding it...
#fartsmeller
September 24, 2013 at 01:48 am
Field position is vitally important. Therefore, the KR and PR are equally important. I assume those calling for all kneel downs and fair catches are engaging in hyperbole. I for do not want to see the Pack starting from the 20 on every drive. That's why Masthay is such great weapon kicking off. Every kickoff should be out of the end zone if possible. However, every team does not have that weapon so the Pack needs an explosive returner.
The return game suffered for years in the post Allen Rossum era. Nightmares of Antonio Chatman linger. Combined with Longwell's inability to kickoff past the 10 yard line, field position both ways was a serious problem. When Cobb was drafted my first thought was "Our return problems are finally over". Now, two short years later, Cobb is deemed too inexpendable for a role where he is clearly the best option to help win games.
It's hard to disagree with not exposing Cobb to those extra hits. He is perhaps the most valuable offensive player besides AR. Hopefully someone else can fill the spot and bring some spark to the return game. However, at some point you have to play to win without the constant thought that injury may occur.
September 24, 2013 at 08:21 am
"I assume those calling for all kneel downs and fair catches are engaging in hyperbole."
Note to Alanis Morissette: this is ironic.