Packers Question of the Day - What Offensive Schemes Would you like to see the Packers Experiment With?

With offenses expanding in today's NFL, is it time the Packers begin dipping into the creative juices and show something different in 2016?

Much like Dom Capers has done in the early stages of converting safety Morgan Burnett into the occasional hybrid linebacker role now that he has the pieces to do so, should Tom Clements begin doing the same?

We've seen the wildcat have its spotlight as well as the read-option. If not schemes or formations, maybe utilizing the quickness of Jeff Janis and Trevor Davis in the offense on end-arounds or toss sweeps like the offense recently showed off in practice. Comment below with what you'd like to see Mike McCarthy and Clements incorporate into the playbook.

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RCPackerFan's picture

August 02, 2016 at 09:31 am

I would really just like to see McCarthy open up the play book.

I would love to see him do more scheming to get guys open, similar to the way the Patriots do. Also I would like to see him scheme different ways to get the guys with top speed the ball in space. Getting Janis or Davis the ball in space would be great to see. Whether its a Jet sweep or bubble screen or a play like they ran with Janis at Family Night. Getting these speed guys the ball with room to run could become big plays for the offense.

I would like to see more misdirection type of stuff. Last year one play stays in my mind against Dallas. They faked it to Cobb one way and threw to a wide open Starks the other way which went for a TD. I would love to see more of that in the offense.

Some other things I would love to see them do is to do different formations to create different looks. One thought is to put Montgomery and Cobb together in the backfield together. They could run so many different plays off of that look, and it would be hard for defenses to key in on one of those guys.

I love our offense, I just would like to see the playbook opened up a bit more.

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holmer's picture

August 02, 2016 at 09:31 am

I am not a fan of the Zone running scheme and I would like to see the Packers run a Power run scheme. The passing game is fine.

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Bedrock's picture

August 02, 2016 at 10:26 am

They're primarily zone, but run many plays with power concepts.

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Tundraboy's picture

August 02, 2016 at 03:57 pm

Has to be your best comment of the year!

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SpudRapids's picture

August 02, 2016 at 09:54 am

I think I'd like to see some 2 tight end sets with Rich Rod and Cook. Not only does it allow you to execute power run plays, it puts enormous pressure on the middle of the field which in turn leaves Nelson on the perimeter with less focus.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 03, 2016 at 12:30 am

Wut? 6 likes, too. I've seen this sentiment expressed before, so I guess I am just in the minority on this idea. I don't think it allows GB to execute power run plays since Cook is average and RR is dreadful.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

August 03, 2016 at 12:54 am

Lol, it wasn't me! I get it though. Remember that one game against the Vikes and we ran 2 TE sets for an entire drive (I guess a message to the WRs to step it up)? We looked pretty good.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 03, 2016 at 02:49 am

LOL. No, I don't remember, but my memory stinks. I went back and watched the highlights of week 11 and 17, but found no (highlight, anyway) plays out of a 2 TE set. Doesn't mean you're not right, though! Oh well, maybe some 2 TE sets will be beneficial in 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCkq2liqPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0euNJ6Fu634

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Nerd's picture

August 02, 2016 at 09:54 am

West Coast Offense would be pretty cool. Get some high percentage passing, hitting deep with pump fakes when CBs come up to cover the slants.

I bet even Janis could figure out how to run a slant.

Help protect that D with some ball control offense.

Remember how good Edgar Bennet and Dorsey Levens looked in those screen plays, draws and traps? I bet Lacy would look even better.

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ebongreen's picture

August 02, 2016 at 10:01 am

Jared Cook and Ty Montgomery are the sort of flex-tools to make the Packers offense both very interesting and very difficult to defend.

Suppose GB's skill players on the field are Nelson, Cobb, RR, Cook and Montgomery. As a defense, if you play dime personnel, watch the Packers switch to Ace (12) formation and run the ball via 2TE sets with Montgomery as a halfback. Most CBs contending with TEs (even those that block as "well" as RR and Cook) will be at a disadvantage. OTOH, play nickel and watch AR motion Ty out of the backfield to match up on a LB in empty set.

Montgomery on backfield screens would also be fun to watch. I know he's listed as a receiver, but he's got the build and talent to operate as a gadget-guy in the backfield even more than Cobb does.

Honestly, I don't know that the Packers need to get "cute" with their offense this year. If they can have even a mild level of injury luck, there are so many skill position players with move-the-ball skills the offense should be nightmarish even without lots of creativity. If key players go down again, crossers and stack sets would be nice, but those don't seem to be things McCarthy likes.

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al bundy's picture

August 02, 2016 at 11:02 am

Your assuming ty will suit up? Or are you talking next year?

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cheddarhead's picture

August 02, 2016 at 10:18 am

The flea flicker and get the running backs involved in the screen play more.

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Since'61's picture

August 02, 2016 at 10:51 am

The Packers need to get better on 3rd downs, 4th and short yardage and goal line offense. Maybe now that they have Cook they can utilize play action and/or rollouts to hit Cook or R.Rodgers in a 2 TE set, whichever one of them gets open. They also need to diversify their formations in those short yardage situations. Last season they looked very predictable when they lined up for short yardage and goal line. Also, maybe Crockett can emerge as a 3rd down threat for either quick hitters and/or quick passes out of the backfield. I would expect that he can get to the LOS faster than Lacy and pickup some first downs. Either way we need more speed and diverse plays in our short yardage offense. Thanks, Since '61

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dobber's picture

August 02, 2016 at 10:58 am

Catching the football.

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Since'61's picture

August 02, 2016 at 11:03 am

Excellent Dobber!!! Love it! Since '61

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Tundraboy's picture

August 02, 2016 at 04:00 pm

Ditto. 2 thumbs up.

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al bundy's picture

August 02, 2016 at 11:01 am

Lacy left lacy right pass lacy left lacy right pass. Of wait that was last years scheme.

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NickPerry's picture

August 03, 2016 at 05:59 am

Pretty sure Rodgers had MORE attempts last year than any year before. At least if you're going to come here to attempt to be witty, come with something that at least resembles the truth.

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LeagueObsrvr's picture

August 02, 2016 at 11:07 am

I'm still waiting for the trick play, where Cobb takes the hand-off and throws down field. (Cobb played some QB at Kentucky)

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ES 1957's picture

August 02, 2016 at 11:15 am

Could be done from the jet sweep series I suggested below.

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J0hn Denver's Gavel's picture

August 03, 2016 at 10:00 am

He's thrown some balls in play already, hasn't he? 3-4 years ago?

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ES 1957's picture

August 02, 2016 at 11:12 am

A jet sweep series with a single RB and Cobb and Montgomery in double slots could take advantage of their respective talents. Run it from shotgun with the motion in front of the QB like some spread teams in college do. This would compliment a lot of what they already do from this set.

Assuming the O Line gets and stays healthy, a short yardage package with Tretter and Spriggs as double TE's. If the defense sells out they're athletic enough to throw the ball to.

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pipelinedave's picture

August 02, 2016 at 11:19 am

I would like to see more slants. And I would also like to see some end arounds and why don't we have plays for Cobb to throw the ball being that he played QB some?

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DrealynWilliams's picture

August 02, 2016 at 11:45 am

1. I'd like to see the Cobra formation not only used as booster when the Offense is in a funk

2. I'm not a fan of bunch formations, but if the lack of separation continue to show then I'm all for it.

3. 5-Wide (of course we'd have to be healthy)

4. I'd like to see more PA with Rodgers under the Center. I understand Shotgun has its advantages (Pass Pro and QB vision), but PA should be more effective when the QB is under Center (especially with a RB like Lacy, who's more threatening with a head of steam then "just getting getting started").

5.Players that are getting meaningful snaps that may be limited in some part(s) of their game should have tailored plays. We've seen it with Cobb and Montgomery (Cobra/Bunch/). How about we help out Adams/Janis?

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Handsback's picture

August 02, 2016 at 11:54 am

Would like to see some type of power running game that the Pack could use in the 4th qtr when they have the lead. A 3 TE line-up (maybe use Tretter as the 3rd TE) that pounds the ball, but could float Rodgers and Cook to the flat for an easy completion.

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Finwiz's picture

August 02, 2016 at 12:18 pm

I liked 11's fluid movement in the family night scrimmage, but he looks like he needs 10-15 pounds and strength to beat the jam he's sure to see. If he can't get off the LOS he won't be able to flash that speed. It's a stretch to suggest he's going to be the number 3 this year, even with the way 17 can't seem to catch a cold on a consistent basis.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 02, 2016 at 12:59 pm

I would like ... the schemes that works... That little...

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stockholder's picture

August 02, 2016 at 01:31 pm

I would like to see a Rb catch the ball down the field. Dorsey Levens was so important to the west coast offense. Who do we have that can do that? STILL To Slow at RB!

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HarlanHuckleby's picture

August 02, 2016 at 02:15 pm

The ol' Statue of Liberty play.

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The TKstinator's picture

August 02, 2016 at 05:52 pm

Beat me to it. Well done!

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OhioPackerFan's picture

August 02, 2016 at 02:34 pm

Cobb held for PAT's and FG's in college and should do the same now. That would open up several trick play options - just more ways to score and gets the punter off the field as the holder.

The other option they should throw in is for the two middle linebackers to sometimes line up over the center on passing downs to blitz - fake blitz and freeze the interior pass blockers from helping block our outside rushers

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WKUPackFan's picture

August 03, 2016 at 05:15 am

Unfortunately practice time, and modern practice structure, simply does not make it viable for a position player to be a holder. Cobb would be missing time with the offense while practicing with Crosby.

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Turophile's picture

August 02, 2016 at 03:55 pm

If Adams is slow, then including him in rub routes and bunch formations should help. Janis, Montgomery and Adams in a bunch could be interesting with Jordy on his own on the opposite side (plenty of size/strength there).

If Davis makes the 53, then a bunch of Janis/Davis/Adams (again with Jordy on the other side) would force the opposition to respect deep speed, which gives Adams a chance to succeed underneath. It would be nice to see Montgomery and Adams running a criss-cross rub (though they will get called on it, if too blatent).

I'd also like to see how Ripkowski is with the dumpoff pass, especially right after they have burned a defense deep.

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Tundraboy's picture

August 02, 2016 at 04:04 pm

Razzle dazzle.

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Michael Grunewald's picture

August 02, 2016 at 06:41 pm

I want to see more two back, power I or offset I packages. Too many of our runs are single back sets out of the gun. I believe our short yardage struggles are a culmination of a lack of reps with live bullets firing on the other end. Our redzone offense has been an eyesore consitently as well, especially as we get inside the 10 yard line. They need to emply personnel packaging commensurate with their position on the field and exercise more creativity and less predictability in short yardage/short field situations.

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lucky953's picture

August 02, 2016 at 07:00 pm

1st Down: Lacy for 5 yds + PA
Short yardage: 2 TE sets
Occasionally No-Huddle with Cobb and Montgomery being moved between backfield, slot, and Y
Red zone: more 4 Wideouts

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John Galt III's picture

August 02, 2016 at 07:59 pm

Janis wide right or left
Nelson opposite side wide
Two Tight Ends in to block and/or release

Lacy in backfield.

Just keep running it unless you gas the defense.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

August 03, 2016 at 03:56 am

Go for it on 4th down. Every time. Never punt. Use Masthey's position for the 7th WR.

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x24's picture

August 03, 2016 at 08:36 am

Green right, spider 2 Y banana

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 04, 2016 at 03:42 am

How about "green 18 right apple pie, shake n bake, potato 2.?

Yeah, mine is gibberish (actually, it is my dinner menu - apple pie (guess I'll put apples on only one side of the pie), chicken breasts and 2 baked potatoes). I wondered how many folks would actually respond seriously, and I prudently decided not to post so as to hide my woeful ignorance regarding scheme. My post above about 2 TE sets deals with personnel, not scheme. If Cook were out, we should probably play more of our guys in our least talented personnel group. We could go to a 3 TE set and execute power running plays, right? My guess is that Backman and RR would closely resemble roadkill as defenders ran over them like an 18-wheeler over a squirrel, though Perillo might execute his block, or at least get a stalemate.

@ x24: for those wondering, his post is not gibberish - though I have no idea if it is a good play for GB - but see the link:

http://www.sbnation.com/2012/4/12/2943709/west-coast-offense-playbook-gr...

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x24's picture

August 04, 2016 at 09:14 am

Thanks for the shout out. "Green right Spider 2 Y Banana" is a Gruden fav

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