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Packers Question of the Day: Thoughts on Ricky Jean Francois Returning

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Packers Question of the Day: Thoughts on Ricky Jean Francois Returning

Just over a week after releasing him, the Green Bay Packers are once again signing Ricky Jean Francois to bolster their defensive line depth.

This is in the wake of Mike Daniels' nagging hip injury which landed him as a non-participant in Wednesday's practice, leaving him unlikely to suit up against the Cincinnati Bengals on Sunday.

What are your initial thoughts on Jean Francois' re-signing and how do you feel about the defensive line as a whole at the moment sans Daniels?

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croatpackfan's picture

I think we got something back in Ahmad Brroks and I expect Kenny and Dean to do more pressure, while Dial and RJF would be more in run stoping department...

The TKstinator's picture

Reuinited
And it feels so good

RCPackerFan's picture

This is a good smart move. With Daniels hurt they needed another DL.
This is a move that will help get through the next 2 games. They play 2 games in 4 days, they will need extra DL.

My only question is what is the corresponding move?
-Does someone go to IR? Spriggs?
or
-Do they cut someone? Pankey?

flackcatcher's picture

Packers are in a bit of a bind. Packers front office may have to cut one of their draft choices on the offensive side of the ball along with one of their young OL. If their secondary was healthy, I be looking at Evans or Hawkins to go. At least we are not the Ravens. Two games in four days, either way the front office will have a lot of decisions to make. And we are only three weeks into the season.

RCPackerFan's picture

They are definitely in a bind. Most of the injuries don't sound long term. But you need help in the short term.

If Bulaga plays, i could see them letting Pankey going. He was brought up to be there incase they needed him. If Bulaga can play and has no issues I could see them releasing him.
If they don't feel comfortable with that perhaps they look to put a guy on IR. Spriggs injury sounds more severe then the other guys. With Murphy proving he can be a good swing tackle and McCray doing better then expected, perhaps they will put him on IR.

Hawkins is their 5th CB right now. They won't let him go especially with House not practicing. Evans is a valuable player and with Brice hurt he would be one of the next guys up.

Perhaps they let Mays go?

I think the safest bet is letting Pankey go and try to get him back on the PS.

croatpackfan's picture

I agree. They may cut Lunsford from PS...

RCPackerFan's picture

In the terms of Roster moves, they cut Francois to bring up Pankey. They signed Darrell Greene to the PS to replace Pankey.

So they could simply undo what they did. Cut Pankey on the 53 to resign Francois. Cut Greene on the PS to resign Pankey to the PS. I think that would be the most likely situation.

Dzehren's picture

You can never have too many big guys. OL Springs to IR to open spot for RJF. Who would have thought TT would have brooks, Dial & RJF all playing..

RCPackerFan's picture

They are placing Spriggs on IR.

flackcatcher's picture

You called it. Murphy made Spriggs expendable for this season. Spriggs hamstring injury if true, put him out till mid season. Still, Packers have some hard choices coming. Cutting this years draft goes against what Ted does. And yet, he may have no choice. This is fast becoming a numbers game the packers are losing at. Losing preferred players, and picking up replacements who do not know the system on either side of the ball. Perry out too, wonderful/.

RCPackerFan's picture

lucky guess. :)

Thats exactly why I thought Spriggs could possibly go on IR. His injury sounded more severe from what I had heard and with the play of Murphy, he made him more expendable.

Now that they can bring 2 players back from IR Spriggs maybe a player they bring back later in the year. He would be worth bringing back for the practice time.

dobber's picture

Could be they'll bring him back, but when Bakhtiari and Bulaga are both back, Murphy has shown he can be the swing guy. Spriggs can fill in at G, but he can't snap the football. If Pankey is still active then I think swapping him out is a no-brainer. Otherwise?

RCPackerFan's picture

Yeah, that would be my guess.

I am also looking more for next year vs just this year. Spriggs would get a lot more valuable practice time vs staying on IR all year.

Spud Rapids's picture

I wonder if Spriggs bad preseason was because he had a bad hamstring throughout? I mean he dropped way off from what he was last year and a bad hammy would definitely contribute to why he looked dead on his feet

RCPackerFan's picture

I never heard anything, but that could always be a possibility. We don't always hear about injuries until a long time later.

dobber's picture

We can only hope...

Mojo's picture

Sorry Spud, but I believe someone falling on Spriggs leg is what caused the injury.

Even if Spriggs eventually turns into something, the Pack will have basically gotten nothing out of him for at least half of his first contract.

dobber's picture

In all fairness, he was drafted into a situation where he was not likely to play much--if at all--in the first 2-3 years, so as long as he picks things up, he won't be a total bust. But your point is well-taken.

Spud Rapids's picture

I think it's smart... You don't upset your rotation by bringing him in and you can keep the DLine fresh. With Bulaga coming back I think Pankey is sent back to PS

On a side note if I had a choice I'd rather see the Pack deal with the injury bug early then going into the playoffs like last year.

Mojo's picture

The only thing I wonder about is why GB lost interest in Ringo. They could sign him off the Detroit PS (unless Ringo wasn't going for it). Was he too small? Was RJF so much better? Did he spit in TT's coffee?

For whatever preseason is worth, I thought he was playing pretty well.

CJ Bauckham's picture

I too, wonder this. Seemed like Ringo would have had more long term upside as well. Who knows?
(other than Ted)

cuervo's picture

Ringo has never been anything more than a JAG. RJF has played for 9 years in the NFL, case closed....he's better at this stage of his career than Ringo can probably ever hope to be. Easy choice,

dobber's picture

It could be that the signing of RJF over Ringo signals that Daniels's injury really is more of a short-term thing.

Dave in Texas's picture

The Lions put Ringo on their 53, (might have been last week). I didn't like it when the Packers released him, so I have been monitoring his availability.

dobber's picture

Just checked...he's on their PS.

http://www.detroitlions.com/team/roster.html

Since '61's picture

I'm fine with the return of RJF. I just hope that it doesn't mean a long term absence for Daniels. We should be OK on the DL without Daniels for the next 2 games but we'll need him against the Dallas OL.

However, it wouldn't be the first time or a total surprise, if the Packers defense proves the perfect elixir for troubled QBs like Dalton and Glennon. Our defense does have a propensity to make below average QBs look like Johnny U even when we win the game.
Thanks, Since '61

egbertsouse's picture

Johnny U. Wow! Anybody except me and you get that reference?

Finwiz's picture

Yes I understand it, and he IS totally correct in what he said.
Oh - and I love the use of the word "propensity" as well!
Upping the intellectual game around here.

Since '61's picture

Egbert and Fin - there are actually a few others on the blog who are older than dirt along with us (LVT and Archie at least) who will pick up on the Johnny U reference. Just trying to maintain a sense of humor.
Thanks, Since '61

Bear's picture

I'm with you '61

The TKstinator's picture

Fin: I'll see your "propensity" and raise you an "aforementioned".

Christopher Gennaro's picture

come on man you don't need to be old to get that reference. all you need is to see the haircut once and you never forget the man who wore it.lol

Tundraboy's picture

I'm in the group, but it seems smaller every year.

The TKstinator's picture

Are you guys referring to #19 with the black high tops?

sheppercheeser's picture

Bring back Guion?

sheppercheeser's picture

Bring back Guion?

Since '61's picture

OK, but he is still on suspension for at least 2 more weeks. LOL.
Thanks, Since '61

Finwiz's picture

Word I heard is, Guion was literally just "going through the motions" in practice, which is why they cut him. Didn't care about practice, and setting a bad example for younger players. Who needs that sheet?

Since '61's picture

Fin - I agree, I don't want him back, too much baggage.
Thanks, Since '61

Jonathan Spader's picture

My thought on getting RJF back: craving dunkin donuts.

dobber's picture

I didn't need RJF to come back for that to be true...

PackEyedOptimist's picture

Mostly echoing others: 1. I like Jean-Francois, but why not Ringo, who seemed to be coming on? 2. Who is the other move? Given that Pankey seemed to play as well as Spriggs, moving Spriggs to IR seems reasonable, but Lenzy Pipkins, Chris Odom, and Devonte Mays seem like good waive-and-hope-to-PS.

Jonathan Spader's picture

Who gets cut from the PS to make room?

Brandon Fisher's picture

I think he was coming back whether or not Daniels got injured. Think they it him just because they had to make room to bring on another OL with three OTs out against ATL.

Brandon Fisher's picture

cut*

RCPackerFan's picture

Per McCarthy in his press conference. Perry has to have surgery on his hand.

Crappy news. So who knows how long he will be out. I would guess he will be out a few weeks minimum.

Now do they consider bringing Elliott back?

L's picture

I think they just role with Brooks who should be back this week and if they find themselves in a blind during a game they could use their ILBs outside and their safeties as ILBs (because they already do that).

RCPackerFan's picture

Yeah Brooks will be used a lot now.
I would assume we may see more of Odom this weekend too. Even just to rest guys.
The only problem with Using ILB's as OLB's is they could be potentially without Ryan for this game. He didn't practice yesterday.

I would say using more 3 DL sets would be something they would do, but without Daniels, that kind of eliminates that.
They will just go with next man up. Brooks, Fackrell and Odom.

dobber's picture

Ryan has not played very much. He's been only OK when he has. It just means more snaps for Martinez who has looked better.

They either need to be prepared to play Odom or think about bringing up Gilbert from the PS.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Andy has graded Ryan at +0.8 so far in 22 snaps. I'd guess that would make Ryan one of the best players on a per snap basis.

That probably means the coaching are using him only in situations that play to his strengths. Either he is a real liability in other situations, or someone else is better.

Tundraboy's picture

Would be nice to see someone emerge, ideally Brooks. Funny my first thought with Perry out was, Oh Shit. But if Brooks has something left we have more than a body to step in for a game or two.Guess I've grown so accustomed to us having nobody or a jag for depth.

Finwiz's picture

Unreal - big contract for a guy that gets hurt every single year.
Lovely - just lovely.
2nd game of the year and the guy is already going for surgery.
Maybe I should just say F-it and go to Lincolnshire every week during the football season. At least I won't leave the theater PO'd every weekend.
Does this guy have some sort of brittle bones disease or what?
Every time he puts on a uniform to play he gets injured.

RCPackerFan's picture

You leave every game PO? Even after Seattle's game?

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

PO'd because of injuries.

For instance, our injuries post-Seattle doomed us against Atlanta (as some of us predicted...).

RCPackerFan's picture

Ahh. i follow you. I thought you just meant about the Packers...

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

Nope, lots of season left.

But this MASH unit stuff has to stop. It's just too much, and frankly, it leaves our QB trying to do too much.

RCPackerFan's picture

Its tough to win when you lose starters. Like the Atlanta game. They went into the game without their starting OT's, then lost their best offensive weapon and bets defensive player. Also we were without our 3rd/4th best pass rusher in Brooks. Its tough losing those caliber of players.

I'm optimistic that Nelson and Bulaga will play this week. That will give us a huge lift for this game.

Tundraboy's picture

I'm in. Need a feel good game again.

Finwiz's picture

Yeah, everytime I see a guy laying on the field, or running to the sidelines, I'm afraid to look at the number. You know it impacts you somewhere down the line. The amount of injuries in this game now is laughable.
Say whatever you want, but these guys aren't conditioned for full-contact football, and it puts them in compromising positions.
NFL has become largely a joke.

Since '61's picture

Going the way of wrestling? Thanks, Since '61

Finwiz's picture

NFL ratings down 14%, advertisers are talking about wanting 'give-backs' for advertising dollars spent? Rush talking about it right now.

I wonder why? Not really all that facetious to say it's going the way of wrestling. Script it - why not. Players can just practice how to fall down when a defender fakes hitting them. They want parity, so they can script their Super Bowl winners and every team can truly have a chance - even the Lions and Vi-Queens. LOL

dobber's picture

Viewership will pick up as the season progresses. MLB always grabs a share early, and remember that large portions of the country have been without power for the opening weekends of the season.

flackcatcher's picture

Lets hope the owners and players understand what the current CBA has done to the pro game. And fix or trash it. After all, it's only their bodies and franchisees at risk. And in a bit of good news, looks like Rodger Goodell? time as commissioner is just about up. Pissing off your main backer Jerry Jones is a sure way to end any future job prospects.

Christopher Gennaro's picture

Sadly roger going nowhere, he just signed 5 year extension. Besides he pissed off Kraft and survived, as longs as the money keeps coming, Jerry will get over it.

flackcatcher's picture

Goodall was getting 40 million a year. He is only getting 20 million in his extension, with a early out clause (if the rumors are correct) the owners forced in. Nice parachute Huh.

Spud Rapids's picture

If you're that fed up with the NFL then why do you participate in this forum?

Finwiz's picture

Like cocaine addiction - just can't quit cold turkey.

Spud Rapids's picture

bahahwaha you crack me up

donnyanderson44's picture

Which makes me wonder why did they sign him? You could throw in Beigle too, knowing his injury history. I don't get the logic.

Bearmeat's picture

Perry hurt? You don't say!!!

RC - I told you and NP this was coming. Perry and CM3 get at least one major injury. Every. Effen. Year. This is why it was stupid to go into training camp expecting those two to be pass rusher #1 and #2. And it blows my mind even more that TT and Co. expected Fackrell, Biegel and Elliot to pick up the slack when the starters inevitably got hurt.

At least Brooks and Dial fell into our laps. Sigh. Let's see what they have.

TT - Get a clue. YOU MUST PAY FOR PREMIUM TALENT, and since you don't seem to be able to draft defensive talent, you'll have to use FA.

RCPackerFan's picture

My biggest concern was knowing they get injured. That being said going out and getting Brooks was a great move. Sounds like Perry's injury wont' keep him out for a long time, but will likely have a club for a while.

I don't really get the yelling at Thompson. He saw that he needed more depth at OLB and he went out and got Brooks. After that he claimed Odom who they were very high on. Biegel will join the team later in the year. While Fackrell isn't where I was hoping he has been actually pretty decent when he has been playing.
Thompson went out this year and made a lot of moves. More then ever before.
The one move I do wish they would have done is went out and got Dumerville. I thought he would be a good fit for the defense. But they did get Brooks which overall is probably a better fit.
I personally would have liked to have seen them keep Elliott. I was higher on him then a lot of others apparently.

Bearmeat's picture

You and I will just have to disagree on Elliot. He sucked for years... I didn't expect any different this year.

I'm yelling at TT because I've been frustrated with this for years. FS, RB, TE, 5 Tech, P... OLB is just the latest reincarnation of this problem. He just so rarely hedges his bet and if the young guys don't step up, he's (and we as fans) screwed.

He did in August this year - ONLY after it became clear that his 3 hopeful "jump" candidates weren't going to make it. He got lucky that the 9ers were cutting bait on the 34 defense and letting go of some halfway decent players.

I do give him credit for moving in August. But he should have done it in March.

RCPackerFan's picture

Thats ok. We can disagree. :)

In the past i get it. This year though. He went out and got proven veterans vs using UDFA's...

We can say he was lucky, but he did go out and get Brooks and Dial.

Just curious, Who in March would you have rather seen him get over who he got in August?
It really doesn't matter when he got them does it? As long as he got them?

fthisJack's picture

they should just give Perry a club on each hand to play with, then he won't get hurt.

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

RJF? Meh. This just shows how bad it has gotten, as no other team wanted him.

I think Spriggs will be back. Pankey looks like the odd man out. I'm really not comfortable with Murphy requiring tons of help at Left Tackle, as that hampers our weapons.

But of course, it's not like Spriggs is any great shakes. I just think he'll develop better on the left side, with Murphy on the right.

octopuskyle's picture

The Packers were already paying RJF due to him being on the roster for a game and being a vested veteran, so it makes perfect sense to bring in the guy you're already paying .

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

True, although now we have to pay him more.

But a run-stopper is ideal against Cinci and Chicago.

dobber's picture

He and Ringo are both "plug-and-play" guys. They both know the system and should be in shape and ready to go.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Money has nothing to do with it. To bring back RJF, they have to pay him more. Bringing RJF back is about bringing back a fairly decent player who is familiar with our system, not about money.

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

Now Perry is having hand surgery.

This team is cursed. Absolutely cursed.

Tarynfor12's picture

Must have hurt it patting himself after that over rated game against those Seahawks incredible blocking oline. No wonder he wasn't noticed last week in Atlanta. Now he collects big checks for doing nothing or just below what he actually does in real perspective and not the stat sheet version.

Spud Rapids's picture

Oh look Taryn ripping on Nick Perry...

Bearmeat's picture

I'll give her some credit: She has her own opinions and does not give up.

dobber's picture

Yeah, how's Kyler Fackrell doing? ;)

Tarynfor12's picture

I remember most saying same about my Starks pick and support and boy did he help us. ..right.
Hopefully Fackrell now gets his chance and proves same. Can't be any worse than 6 years of crap from Perry, no matter how one convinces them self otherwise.

dobber's picture

I'm just jabbing at you...I liked the Fackrell pick, too.

I think the appropriate comeback might have been, "He's healthy, isn't he?" :)

Tarynfor12's picture

No....the disgust with Perry has no bounds.
Fackrell hasn't had time to be compared.

Tundraboy's picture

Was about to write the same. At least Perry has NFL talent.

fthisJack's picture

how many sacks did he have last year Taryn?

rdent's picture

I just read that, looks like GB will never get their moneys worth out of Perry, hate to say it but, first round INJURY BUST. Time to draft a OLB first round next year.

dobber's picture

It was time to find one or more pass rushers next draft whether Perry stayed healthy or not.

Frankly, they needed to draft at least one more this season, but Odom could be turning out to be the equivalent of the "late round flier" many of us wanted them to take (rather than drafting a guy like Amichia).

Tarynfor12's picture

Said this day one when drafted.

egbertsouse's picture

Maybe MM should put a piano teacher on staff and have them do finger exercises.

Since '61's picture

I'm thinking now that Perry is injured CM3 is bound to be next.
Perhaps LVT and/or Taryn can work out a pool that we can play to see who comes the closest to guessing when CM3 will be injured. After all why should this season be any different than the last 5 or 6.
If Perry or Daniels are gone for a while this defense may not get off the field until they give up a score.
Once again it's up to Rodgers and the offense to carry the load and the offense has enough issues of their own on the OL and at WR.
Like I said yesterday, let's reconvene on the predictions when we get to the bye if we have a team left.
Let's keep our sense of humor guys it's looking like we're going to need it.
Thanks, Since '61

Finwiz's picture

The over/under on CM3 getting injured:

I say TWO point FIVE, as in 2 1/2 games.
I'll take the under - LVT??

Tarynfor12's picture

Thanks for the invite Since61....

Coming from the angle of needing to have reason for the possible loss to Cincy this week and the more likely loss against the Bears on Thursday, Matthews fills his hammie order late 3rd/ 4th quarter to add credence to excuses for these losses, which is already being filled out by in denial group. : )

Since '61's picture

Always good to hear from you Taryn. I'm going to hold off on CM3's injury to the 2nd qtr of the Dallas game after he runs himself out of a play where Elliot cuts back into the hole CM3 should be filling. Either way, it's only a matter of time.
Thanks, Since '61

GVPacker's picture

I hate my self for saying this but I agree with ya Since'61, CM3 with A ham string pull!. But it might happen before they play the boy's!

dobber's picture

"...have reason for the possible loss to Cincy this week and the more likely loss against the Bears on Thursday,"

Your nickname is 'sunshine', isn't it? ;)

Tarynfor12's picture

My name is whatever you want it to be via internet.
But my realistic view comes to fruition more often than those of blind optimism or rather denial of seeing is believing. Most seen GB as a top defense after Seattle, I saw the same over rated lethargic , slow, afraid to tackle can't start elsewhere guys and that includes Matthews and Perry.
Playoffs actually don't seem as definite today as yesterday.
Rodgers can only carry so much before he seems older than Brady.

fthisJack's picture

i would say your view is blind pessimism not realism.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Hey Tarynfor12, I won't predict injuries. At least we're getting some recognition. I can't predict this one, but I tend to lean your way. Would be glad to meet you at GV Ranch to discuss it. I've stated my feelings on this game. It's not a game I want to play. As far as CM3 goes, that's easy. I'll take -1. He's been hurt since the day we got him. I'm going to keep riding Oakland as I did last year.
LVT

Tarynfor12's picture

Sorry you lost your 1st half bet but as I said, the only way to bet last week was tease up to 7-8 if one needed to bet them.
Oak this week on road vs Wash is a good game for their forward confidence with a win but more important is how they lose if happens. I like them here though money line.
I'm taking Cincy and 9 1/2....if any team can make the Red Rifle look relevant again....it's the Packer defense. Odds of Cincy not scoring TDs....can you find any.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Hey Tarynfor12, I can't argue with what you are thinking. Unless I'm missing something, Teasing GB the 1st or 2ond half wouldn't have got me any money. I like the Moneyline on Oakland, but it's too much. I don't really like the -3 all that much. I'm just going to stay with them. I can't find a game that I'm really that crazy about this week. I'm tempted to take Tenn -2 1/2 over Seattle. That's the only one that jumps out at me. I can't argue with your thinking on the GB game, but I don't have a good record betting the GB game. I think you are right, but I can see it both ways. Maybe I'll sit this week out.
LVT

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

Here's what's disturbing:

The Cinci game marks the 3rd straight week our injury list is longer--much longer--than our opponent's.

Different year, same awful tune. It's too consistent to not be anyone's fault.

Finwiz's picture

Oh it IS somebody's fault - but they will never divulge whom, let alone do anything about it. It's clear they don't have any idea what the problem is, and therefore don't do anything to fix it. Like I said, they need to quit being so cheap up there, and hire some people from Mayo clinic to come in as a conditioning and training consultant. Pay the big bucks.

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

Every building in TitleTown needs to be a medical clinic...

...and for Geronimo Allison, a dispensery.

Finwiz's picture

LOL....a dispensary - LMAO.

rdent's picture

Can't do much of anything to prevent a hand injury.

fthisJack's picture

2 clubs Perry!

Spud Rapids's picture

You've got rose colored glasses my friend. You're a Packer fan so you think we are the most injured team always and it hits you emotionally, however, statistically speaking GB hasn't been near the top in injured teams. Using Football Outsiders Adjusted Games Lost stat they have been doing pretty good. Here is how they ranked the NFL in adjusted games lost (1 being the least injured team)

2016 Rank - 15th
2015 Rank - 9th
2014 Rank - 3rd
2013 Rank - 31st
2012 Rank - 32nd
2011 Rank - 16th

Look you made fun of me for citing the article where McCarthy brought snacks to practiced and hired a nutritionist and 3rd party to study injuries but fact of the matter is they went from the bottom of the league in injuries to the top that year. Maybe you should read and do research before attacking my arguments because I actually dig in and find backing data to mine.

Just as a reference here is what Adjusted Games lost tracks according to profootball focus:

"With Football Outsiders' Adjusted Games Lost (AGL) metric, we are able to quantify how much teams were affected by injuries based on two principles: (1) Injuries to starters, injury replacements, and important situational reserves matter more than injuries to benchwarmers; and (2) Injured players who do take the field are usually playing with reduced ability, which is why AGL is not based strictly on whether or not the player is active for the game, but instead is based on the player's listed status that week (IR/PUP, out, doubtful, questionable, or probable)."

Finwiz's picture

Maybe my reading comprehension is F'd, but I don't see where they "went to the top".
That 3rd rating could have just as well been an anomaly as any conscious effort on their part to limit injuries. 9th and 15th are nothing great either. And usually it's all about WHOM is injured, not the number.

That aside, I already told you I'm coming around to the acceptance of the fact you are all right, injuries are a part of the modern day NFL. The league has become a joke due to training methods, practice, and not letting perceived starters play in preseason. If nobody wants to play their players in preseason, just eliminate it I say. Doesn't seem to do any good anyway, other than evaluating rooks, but they can do that in practice.

You really took that personally when I ripped you on the snacks comment, huh? Even you have to admit, that snacks comment sounded a bit ludicrous.

Spud Rapids's picture

I always take it personally when someone insults snacks.... no one brings me snacks at work

Also they averaged 26th in the league over the first 3 years of the data I provided, then McCarthy made adjustments (snacks) and they have averaged 9th over the past 3. That's 17 spots in the ranking and from bottom 10 to top 10. So you make fun of me for mentioning snacks but statistically speaking McCarthy has made adjustments that have improved there injuries in that time period.

Since '61's picture

Spuds - appreciate your research. Just confirms that 2014 was our year to reach the SB and we didn't get it done. May be a long while before this team is the 3rd least injured team in the league again. Thanks, Since '61

dobber's picture

It just goes to show you (2013) that it's not just how many you lose, but who.

Since '61's picture

Bingo! Ding! Ding! Ding! you know it Dobber. Give the man another cookie! Thanks, Since '61

dobber's picture

Chocolate chip...not raisin!

Spud Rapids's picture

Don't have to be top 3 looks like top half with a hot QB. If you look at the trend of the Super Bowl winner the over the last 7 seasons, that team has been continued to trend higher in the AGL ranking of course but staying at the top half seems to help.

2016 - Patriots 8th
2015 - Broncos 10th
2014 - Patriots 12th
2013 - Seahawks 13th
2012 - Ravens 13th
2011 - Giants 26th
2010 - Packers 30th

dobber's picture

Thanks for the data!

Tincada's picture

Is it just me or is the GM, Terrible Ted completely incapable of the job. You bring the guy in for a month or so and then cut him because he's of no use. What kind of scouting report was that? Then because TT has NO depth on this team after two weeks TT has to grovel to bring the guy back, REALLY?

Since '61's picture

RJF was still being paid by the Packers so why not get our money's worth.
I don't support every move TT makes but bringing RJF back under the current situation is a good move regardless of his contract status. Also, when a team is dealing with multiple injuries at one position group, as the Packers were on the OL after the Seattle game, sometimes the player(s) released is just a numbers game to get to 53. Remember RJF could not go to the PS any longer.
I doubt if there was any groveling. The phone call probably went,TT - "Hi RJF are you available? RJF - "S*** yeah, on my way." Both - "See ya' later". End of call.
Thanks, Since '61

dobber's picture

Well put...S*** yeah!

rdent's picture

He will be asked to retire after his contract is up in 2018.

dobber's picture

If his contract is up and they don't want him, they don't have to ask him to retire. They just hire someone else.

Thing is, they're unlikely to have a lame-duck GM in 2018, so either he'll announce "on his own" that it's his last year or they may extend him but not disclose a plan for him to move out of the role.

rdent's picture

What I meant is I don't beleive they will offer him any sort of extension beyond 2018 which in essence a way of saying it is time to retire. And they do have a few qualified people waiting in the wings in the front office, but you never know.

dobber's picture

Possible, but I just don't see them putting him in a lame-duck situation.

Tundraboy's picture

A lame Duck Ted is a scary thought.

Packer Fan's picture

I'm glad they brought Francois back. But what is it with injuries again. Spriggs in put on IR. Perry needs surgery again on his hand. Glad they brought Brooks in.

Now, OL. Two on the IR. No good backups for OL and the two tackles are hurt. Really, need veteran backup.

So, TT has to step out of his shell and get some good backups in. I remember when in 96 when the Packers won the Super Bowl. Before the season they brought in Santana Dotson, Sean Jones and safety Robinson. They became a great defense.

But they brought in Earl Dotson when Michaels didn't work. And when Brooks went on the IR and Freeman broke his hand, they brought in Andre Rison during the season.

Point is, Wolf realized there were gaps of talent. He went out and got people to fill them, even during the season. TT is kind of doing that, but sure looks he needs to do more.

Since '61's picture

Ron Wolf was a no messing around GM. He knew that he had Holmgren, Favre and Reggie White and that he had a chance at an SB in '96 so he went for it with everything and everyone available. He was well known and well respected around the league and he knew how to get the job done. He's not in the NFL HOF for nothing. I often wonder what this team would be like if he was still the GM. Thanks, Since '61

BPEARSON21's picture

https://www.facebook.com/FOXSportsWisconsin/videos/10155569963992667/

Full disclosure.. this has nothing to do with RJF but this is what I've been saying forever. This is the truth about the Packers - backed by pure facts and a third party source who isn't a packers fan whose biased.

Worth your 4 minutes.

dobber's picture

Updated injury report:

packers.com/team/injury-report.html

None of the DNPs upgraded.
Bulaga downgraded from full to limited, but still expected to play on Sunday, last I heard.

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