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Packers Question of the Day: Season Prediction

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Packers Question of the Day: Season Prediction

It's never too early to formulate some kind of season prediction for the Packers. Unless, of course, the current month is anywhere between April or July.

Two games into the season, the Packers are sitting at 1-1. Given whether or not they right the ship and go on some kind of miraculous run and leave behind any previous doubt, or they crumble under the pressure and miss the playoffs for only the second time in Aaron Rodgers' starting career.

What is your record prediction for the Packers, and how far into the playoffs (if they make the playoffs) will they go?

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Tommy Phillips's picture

After Sunday night? 10-6, loss in divisional round to Atlanta again.

KenEllis's picture

Predictions? I have a few.
Win the NFC North.
Win a playoff game.
Lose next playoff game when the D gets exposed, again.
Listen to MM tell the fans that Dom is an excellent defensive coordinator.
Listen to certain fans tell the rest of us how hard it is to get to the SB while watching NE play in another one.
Listen to TT stumble through a presser before he uses his 12 picks in the 2018 draft to stock the team for the future.
Lose sleep over next year's crop of thrilling UDFAs.
And get ready to celebrate Aaron's 35th birthday.

Bearmeat's picture

That certainly HAS been the MO since 2010, hasn't it? But I do think this team is different. See below. RC and I had a convo on this exact issue.

jh9's picture

We've seen this movie before. It's called "Groundhog Day."

bdavis385's picture

Seems a bit silly to suggest that the s hip needs "righted" after only one loss. Righting the ship may have more to do with getting healthy than anything else. In the spirit of the question I would suggest two things; Murphy needs to get much better and we need to have a running game that actually produces enough yards to make a difference.

dobber's picture

"Seems a bit silly to suggest that the s hip needs "righted" after only one loss. "

Especially after a game many didn't expect them to win...

BPEARSON21's picture

Right... but that's the point... nobody thought we'd beat the team we will probably see in the play offs again. So I think a 10-6 / 11-5 and losing in the play offs again is a completely realistic estimation.

Nobody expects us to beat top 5 offenses. That's a problem. That's why we all know how the season will end.

Unless you think rollins/randall/house will magically be able to stop the Falcons in January....? No? That's why we have no confidence. Nothing changed. Nothing will. Gotta start looking at results and buying into numbers.

dschwalm's picture

Yep. I can't see how it turns out any other way, UNLESS, the Lions beat them twice

RCPackerFan's picture

I still think they finish 12-4. Nothing has changed.

Virtually everyone going into the season said if they finished 1-1 out of the first 2 games they were doing really good. Well that is where they sit.

Bearmeat's picture

Exactly.

We were without Jordy, both starting OTs, Daniels, Cobb, Brooks, etc... opening ATL's new stadium, and they already were a match up problem for us?? OF COURSE we got drummed.

This team will still go 12-4 or better. They'll still win the division by a couple games (I don't buy DET at all). The only question is whether or not they'll have enough by January to beat Atlanta, Dallas, Seattle, New England, Pittsburgh etc...

I think they have a real shot if King, J Jones and Lowry keep getting better. And if the OL stays healthy.

dschwalm's picture

HUGE pressure to put on kids

RCPackerFan's picture

Exactly Bearmeat. And honestly we killed ourselves to much. To many dropped passes and sloppy tackling. So many things that went wrong in the game were controllable.
And yes we got smoked. I hate keep going back to this, but the game could have gone many different directions. The biggest turning point though was the Bennett block call. Had that flag not been thrown who knows how the rest of the game goes. If they go to halftime 17-14, they are feeling much, much different then they do 24-7.

I'm not buying Detroit yet. They played the Cardinals who are simply not good right now and played the Giants who are terrible!

I think this team will go as far as it wants if its healthy.

Tundraboy's picture

Sage advice.

dschwalm's picture

Yes, but now they have a plethora of injuries, and their weaknesses are now open to all: Their defence has been exposed (at least their corners) and their O-line is a mess and doesn't look like it will get better soon. MM wont run the ball (even though he says he will every season.), so no balanced attack and no play action. As a result, they will be 10-6. Will that allow them to make the play-offs?

RCPackerFan's picture

A lot of injuries but none of them are long term injuries.

Ok, if their defense has been exposed how many teams in the league can realistically expose them the way Atlanta can? Atlanta in their dome is probably the most explosive offense in the league.

To take a positive spin on it lets not forget that 2 of their top 5 pass rushers weren't playing in the game and their heart and soul of the defense was out. Also Lowry got hurt during the game. They were down to 2 DL in the game at one point.
Also we did discover that we have a player emerging in King. If he continues this upward trend he could make a huge difference for our defense.

The OL is a mess because their starting 2 OT's have been injured. They won't be out all season. The fact that Bakhtiari went through pregame warmups shows that he is very close to being able to play. Bulaga was sick last week which was probably a big reason why he didn't play last week.

I'm fine that they don't run the ball as much but I would like to see them get Montgomery more involved in the passing game. He is a huge weapon there.

Johnblood27's picture

my prediction...

PAIN!

At least you didn't use the aforementioned "aforementioned"

The TKstinator's picture

How right you are.

Razer's picture

I think that our offense will be fine and depending on our run game - more than fine.

Ultimately, the ceiling on this team will be determined by the defense. We are too thin on our D-line and lack the needed talent at the corners. The Atlanta game clearly identified these weaknesses. 5 years ago the 49ers ran by us, 3 years ago Seattle ran around us and now Atlanta is our kryptonite. Bridesmaids again

Tarynfor12's picture

Using the words of Yogi....

"It's like Deja Vu all over again."

Bearmeat's picture

Yep. So far. Let's see what happens. Losing to the reigning conference winner to open their new building in week 2 isn't the worst thing in the world.

dschwalm's picture

No, it isn't. It was the manner in which they played. They just don't have the talent for a championship.

RCPackerFan's picture

we really did watch 2 separate games.

Bearmeat's picture

It's week 3 now. It's FAR too early to say who can or can't win a title in JANUARY.

There's a difference between what TT has done most of his career and what he did this year. Yes, he hoped his draft picks would turn out to be major players via a "jump." BUT this year he hedged his bets at positions of need. House, Brooks, Dial, Bennett, Kendrick, Evans and RJF (who was cut after the young uns proved they could play). PS - this still makes me sad.

This team has the talent all across the board to win it all. That is a FAR cry from where the team has been since 2014, and 2010 before that. The 2016 team did not have the talent once Shields went down and Randall/Rollins started their progression towards bust status (which they have IMO continued).

Now, WILL they win it all? I don't know. That depends on health and if some role players (King, J Jones, Lowry, Brice, Brooks, Murphy, Barclay, etc...) can make contributions. That's what determines winning it all. You have to be prepared. And lucky.

For example, how many years in the last 10 have the Pats been the best team in football? I'm guessing 5. How many titles do they have? 2. And both of those came down to the last second. You have to be lucky and good to win it all.

This team will be there in the final 8.

RCPackerFan's picture

Very well said Bearmeat!

Completely agree!

What I find funny is how so many people want to jump off the cliff after losing a game in week 2.

Finwiz's picture

I would have actually felt better if we lost and were competitive in doing so.
It isn't about the fact they lost - it's the manner in which they did it.
It looked like nothing has changed from the NFCCG, and that just pisses me off after 8 months to figure it out.
Obviously somebody in the personnel dept or coaching staff doesn't know what they are doing or what the problem is, and how to fix it.

Bearmeat's picture

I think you would have seen a very close game Finwiz - IF 4 of our best 5 players and 7 of our top 10 were playing throughout.

Plus, the bonus of getting shredded Sunday night is that we KNOW that Randall and Rollins cannot cover top WRs without substantial help. It sucks, but at least we know. They're CB 2/3 or 3/4 candidates. We have to roll with House and King outside from now on.

While it's not as good as having 4 #1 or #2 CBs - which we thought we might have if the chips fell the right way - it's better to know this now rather than in December.

Tundraboy's picture

That's exactly how I feel, it's how they lost. You know Atlanta had all the motivation in the world obviously with the opening the new stadium but I mean they got creamed in the Super Bowl and you would have thought, we would have looked pissed off and came in fired up because we got creamed by them.

The TKstinator's picture

I myself will wait until week 3.

rdent's picture

"we really did watch two separate games."

RC,some watch the games objectively,
others through green and gold glasses.

The TKstinator's picture

Of beer.

GVPacker's picture

If A Rod didn't lose that Pass/LateralWhatever Fumble (Atlanta +7) that game was much closer! Just saying.

mrtundra's picture

We have to win our division again before we can talk playoffs. Every team in our division will play tough against us and I see Detroit as our biggest divisional challenge, right now. It's one game at a time and if we reach the playoffs, we can talk about that then.

Razer's picture

Detroit will be tough for sure. If Minnesota doesn't lose Bradford, they will be even tougher. The Viking defense is shoulders above anything in our division. If their O-line holds up, their offense will give us a good run.

Razer's picture

Chicago still sucks

Since '61's picture

I'm staying with my 12-4 prediction.
I had Atlanta as one of the Packers 4 probable losses for this season anyway.

My prediction also assumes that the Packers get healthy and that they begin to play King and Jones on the defense. We also need Daniels and Brooks back ASAP.

We have Aaron Rodgers with numerous solid skill position players around him. I would like to see the Packers get the ball to Monty more often, especially in space and I would like to see RIP get more snaps as well for both protection and short yardage purposes.
Jordy's return will be a key as we know from 2015.

Every team has issues and weaknesses which we will see as the season plays out. Let's see where we are at when the bye week arrives. That would be a good time to re-evaluate what this team can accomplish in 2017.
One play, one series, one game at a time.
Thanks, Since '61

dobber's picture

I predict radical swings in the prevailing opinion of this team as posted on this site on a nearly weekly basis.

The TKstinator's picture

Consistent inconsistency.

chugwater's picture

I second the prediction.

No shortage of overreactions from one day to the next.

Whole lotta season left.

Archie's picture

I see a 7-5 season, including a sweep of the Bears, leaving what they do in their 4 games vs Lions & Vikes as all determinant. If they go 2-2 in those games and fin 9-7, will that be enough to make the playoffs? Will they even go 2-2 in those 4 games? And if they make the play-offs, can they defeat 3 other playoff teams? Nope.

Bottom-line, any team with a semblance of defense will be tough for us. And it only gets worse if that team also has a semblance of a passing game. Let's face it even with 12, the GBP are a very mediocre team.

And this prediction assumes AROD plays all 16 games. The hit he took Sunday on the sideways pass/fumble play was scary.

Just another Ted Thompson/Mike McCarthy/Dom Capers team.

It is ironic that two of the hottest teams in the NFL, the Chiefs and Raiders were rebuilt by GMs who came from GB. And before that it was John Schneider at SEA. We let the good ones get away while we cling to Teddy the albatross. Why? McKenzie, Schneider and Dorsey were all risk-takers. Wolf was a risk-taker. Thompson is not.

dobber's picture

I predict that after Sunday, the soonest we hear from Archie again will be after the Dallas game.

dschwalm's picture

Finally! Someone who agrees with me. We just don't have the horses.

The TKstinator's picture

Maybe the Colts and Broncos do.

Jonathan Spader's picture

TK he said HAVE the horses. That means the Chiefs and the Redskins.

The TKstinator's picture

Oh! And Cowboys then.
Well played, señor!

BPEARSON21's picture

Enjoy the regular season fellas! It'll be fun to watch, it'll be fun burying the Lions hype train. Hopefully A-Rod can secure himself another MVP!

Then we'll get destroyed in the play offs all over, draft a few new rookies and do it all over again next season.

MarkinMadison's picture

Assuming Rodgers stays healthy, 12-4. How deep they go in the playoffs will depend a bit on luck and a lot on the development of King and Jones. There is a lot to like about this team. I said before the season started that they could go 0-2 to start the year and still make the Super Bowl. I'm not changing.

Packer Fan's picture

I am not into predictions. But I believe the Pack will make the playoffs. Atlanta is the nemesis this year. Like San Francisco was a few years back and Seattle too. We just don't match up well. The coaches will just have to find a way to beat Atlanta if they want to go to the Super Bowl. And we will need a big game from our all-world quarterback to do so.

On a related note. Have you noticed that some prior Packers are now out of a job. Lacy didn't play, Datone Jones got cut, along with Elliot. Suggest they really weren't that talented and the coaches got the most out of them. What about Randall and Rollins? This is really a question about TT. Is there enough talent on the DB to win the Super Bowl. The coaches need to let King and Jones play to develop by years end. And also Hawkins and Pipkens - 5-10 plays a game. See if they develop. Otherwise bring in a veteran if one becomes available. Because when the Packers face Atlanta again, and they will in the playoffs, something has to be changed in the DB and the backups.

MarkinMadison's picture

You could see King on the boundary and Jones in the slot by the playoffs. I think that is realistic, and would improve the unit.

Everyone will have injuries between now and then. And Matty Ice has had really bad stretches of play over the years.

We'll see.

dschwalm's picture

PLAY-OFFS??? Who said, PLAY-OFFS?

rdent's picture

Exactly, injuries could continue to pile up including AR, after Sunday night we are lucky he is still alive! It is way to early to "assume" the Packers win the division, let alone will go to the playoffs, if Rodgers goes down for any length of time forget it.

Packer Fan's picture

Best comment, EVER!

Point Packer's picture

11-5. Loss in Divisional Round to Atlanta. Another test with Rodgers and without a SB.

GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

It's not that we lost to Atlanta it is in the way we lost. Their offense had their way with us. Moved the ball at will. How can anyone have confidence that we will beat them in the playoffs? Odds are better if we play them at home but I do not see that happening.

sheppercheeser's picture

I agree- those 20+ chunks of yardage, play after play, was tough to watch, while we struggled to move the chains. I hope this loss helps in the long-run to realize how far we need to go to be competitive.

Packmaniac's picture

For two years running I said 9-7 and narrowly missing the playoffs. May as well make it a trifecta -- 9-7 and narrowly missing playoffs. And if they do make the playoffs, no Super Bowl appearance. In Ted I do not trust.

croatpackfan's picture

13-3 season... And 1st seed. Losses to Steelers and Buccs...

Hardest divisional opponent - Lions. I see Lions win over Atlanta this weekend!

dschwalm's picture

Croat, I was waiting for your forecast. I will remind you at the at the end of the season!!!

RCPackerFan's picture

I would have penciled in a potential loss to the Bucs before but now that the Bucs will not have their bye week 2 weeks before the Packers game. They will now be on the road 3 of the 4 games games prior to coming to Lambeau,I think the Packers have a better chance of winning that game.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

I guess I'll have to try & make you guy's feel better. It's way too early to be making predictions on GB. You'd get better odds right now on 4 - 12 than you would on 12 - 4.
The game against Atlanta means Nothing. GB would not have won that game if everyone would have been healthy. I told you that before the game. Las Vegas doesn't care who wins, they only care about 1 thing, making MONEY. It was obvious to me, that the game was Controlled. It would not have mattered if Nelson or Daniels would not have gotten hurt, or if our OT would have played. GB would not have won that game. WHY??? Because the Majority of money was on them. I told you again before the game that GB +3 is almost always an Automatic Loss. I don't care if you believe me or not. You should have been able to see how the calls controlled not only the outcome, but the Over as well. If you didn't, You Never Will. That's ok.
On a positive note, All this bad news works in GB's favor. They will not win, or I should say Cover, until the Money is off their backs. It's been that way for the last 25 years.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

I guess I'll have to try & make you guy's feel better. It's way too early to be making predictions on GB. You'd get better odds right now on 4 - 12 than you would on 12 - 4.
The game against Atlanta means Nothing. GB would not have won that game if everyone would have been healthy. I told you that before the game. Las Vegas doesn't care who wins, they only care about 1 thing, making MONEY. It was obvious to me, that the game was Controlled. It would not have mattered if Nelson or Daniels would not have gotten hurt, or if our OT would have played. GB would not have won that game. WHY??? Because the Majority of money was on them. I told you again before the game that GB +3 is almost always an Automatic Loss. I don't care if you believe me or not. You should have been able to see how the calls controlled not only the outcome, but the Over as well. If you didn't, You Never Will. That's ok.
On a positive note, All this bad news works in GB's favor. They will not win, or I should say Cover, until the Money is off their backs. It's been that way for the last 25 years.

Since '61's picture

LVT - I must give you credit. You said that the +3 for the Packers on the road is a loss and you were absolutely correct. Great job!
Do you think the current line of -8 for the Bengals game will hold up all week or will it move depending on the injury reports later this week?
I'm not interested in betting but I am interested to see if your theory that the games are "Controlled" by the money is consistent.
Thanks, Since '61

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Since 61, I really don't want to talk to much about this. I will say the following. I actually think most games are bet pretty evenly, so it doesn't matter much. It's the Big Money Games that seem to go Las Vegas's way. Why & How, I don't know, but they do. Just so you know!! MM knows what I'm saying. AR knows what I'm saying, but they can't say anything or they are done. MM knew what was going on in the Atlanta game. They all do. I wish I knew how it's done, I Don't!!

To answer your question on the -8, I can't. If you could tell me where the money is being bet, I believe I could. I can say this. I don't think this is a Big Money Game. When you get into these bigger lines, -7 or more, there is too much room to figure it. There are a number of things that I go by regardless of who's playing. They don't always work. If I'm going to bet an over & the number is 50, I'll always go over. Just like the other night. The OVER was almost an all time high of 56 1/2. My thinking is most went UNDER. Las Vegas took all that money. I knew it was an Over, but it's hard to bet that before the game. I thought I could sneak in a 1st Half bet, but again, it was GB +1. Most times that loses, & it did.

I don't know how it's done, all I know is it's done. I've been doing this for 40 years or more. I've paid my dues. Something isn't Right. Going opposite where I think the money is works for me. Why???

The -8 line will move if Las Vegas wants it to move. It's Impossible from the outside to see what's going on. I can tell you that MM, AR, & all the rest know when things are Not going their way.

Bad News out of GB isn't necessarily bad. It's done to get as much money as possible the other way. MM knows what he is doing. Wish I could say more. Experience tells me + or - 2 or 3 is Not a Good Line in most cases for GB, whether they are at Home or on the Road. The only places I would take it is at the Pats, or Seattle. Green Bay has Too Much Love.
LVT

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

P.S. Since 61, The game opened GB -10

Since '61's picture

LVT - I didn't realize that the line opened at -10. In any case it's all very interesting to me. I appreciate your taking the time to respond to my inquiry. Thanks, Since '61

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE POST.
LVT

dobber's picture

Packers early week injury report is up.

http://www.packers.com/team/injury-report.html

DNPs: Bakhtiari, Brice, Cobb, Daniels, House, Perry, Ryan, and Spriggs
Limited Participants: None
Full Participants: M. Adams, Brooks, Bulaga, J. Evans, Nelson

Since '61's picture

Dobber - thanks for the update.
Happy to hear that Bulaga, Brooks and Nelson are practicing, surprised but happy to also hear that M. Adams is practicing.

Wish we had better news about Cobb, Daniels and Perry.

Thanks, Since '61

dobber's picture

Packers also re-sign RJF.

profootballrumors.com/2017/09/packers-re-sign-ricky-jean-francois

al bundy's picture

Zach I'm doing everyone a favor and not going there. Last year I guessed 8-8, again based on lack of pass defense and pass rush.
This year, letting it ride. I do think that the Packers will not have a field day against the Bears, Lions or Vikings. They all improved too. I see a rat race.
PS: Bradford's knee will be healed before the Pack game that's for sure. Not to mention they have the second best runner in the league at this point.
Ya very interesting

chugwater's picture

I said 12-4 before the season. Still riding that horse.

Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

10-6, 2nd in Division, Wild Card loss.

Here's something I'd like to see: Right now, this team needs something that scares other teams and forces them to alter their strategy against us...

...so activate Michael Clark from the Practice Squad.

There are several poor performers who could be released. Ryan and Thomas do little at ILB, especially with Jones coming on. Rollins is becoming an afterthought. Patrick serves little purpose with other guys returning. We never have all 3 backup RB's active on game day. Someone, somewhere, is expendable.

Meanwhile, Clark would greatly enhance our redzone offense, since no team could dare single-cover him with one average-sized DB. Opponents would have no choice but to adjust, leaving other openings and matchup advantages.

Clark would provide a difference; a shot in the arm for our offense--and that's without having to know the whole route tree.

Activate Clark.

Tundraboy's picture

One game at a time. Maybe they will settle in on O this week, with the drama of Seattle and Atlanta over with. 1-1 is about what I expected and although I still hated having lost to Atlanta, the next 4 to 5 will tell if this year is really going to be different than last. I think so. Play the new guys and let's find out what we have.. May's, both Jones, and Evans if Brice is still hurt.

Siwi87's picture

Man O Man......What's with all the doom and gloom?
The Pack lost a game....Dang it! We're not going undefeated.....Atlanta at home is a difficult opponent no matter the health of our team.....We preserved the health and the future of our team by holding out two very important pieces DB and BB....In game injuries suck but none of them threatened our future (Nelson practiced today) So he was banged up and held out for precaution or future goals?....I know! I want to win every game and get so focused on that one game on my tv for three hours that I forget about the big picture all the time....Thankfully our powers that be do not get caught up in the emotions of that one game like us fans so often do....Eyes on the prize! My prediction is simple stay the course and keep grinding. And hope we get lucky with injuries, referee calls and an inch there or there. Predicting what happens months for now is pointless. Let's get a win this weekend and discuss January when it gets here.

Finwiz's picture

You really don't get it, do you?
Sigh.....
Carry on.

Duke Divine's picture

Super Bowl! But bengals cover the +9 Sunday

Pauly's picture

Man O man,, I have been on the fence about Capers,,, but this past Sunday I changed my mind to negative after watching single high Safety and no bracket coverage on Julio Jones plus not shadowing by our best CB (Yeah! Who?) on him with safety help. Sunu is slow and can be single covered by House or King.
J. Jones running free is a scary sight!!

Pauly's picture

Even the Bears were able to shut Julio Jones down somewhat....

dobber's picture

...on grass.

Nick Perry's picture

What the hell is going on at CHTV?????

Like RC and BM have mentioned I can't think of anyone who thought the Packers would start 2-0 when that schedule came out. Matter of fact I remember quite a few who had the Packers at 3-2 after week 5. The Packers lost to Atlanta opening a new Stadium and suddenly all is lost. The Packers are EXACTLY where 95% of us thought they'd be after 2 weeks.

What I've learned in the first 2 weeks is the Packers offense is starting SLOW, and the defense right now is still trying to figure things out while King and Jones get some valuable reps. We've learned or just reinforced some peoples opinion that Randall and Rollins still suck. Randall can talk about showing the world why he was a #1 pick until the cows come home, but it's going to be tough when you play EVERYBODY 10 yards off.

The Packers are where I thought they'd be and Atlanta is not the same team on the road as the Bears proved week one. They still have to play AT New England, AT, Carolina, AT Tampa Bay, and AT Seattle. My guess is they lose at least 3 of those games and at least one at home. What if they suffer a rash of injuries in a game and lose 9 starters like the Packers for a few weeks. Depending on where those injuries are they might not have the depth to overcome it.

The Packers have 14 games to make up 2 games on Atlanta, that's a lot of games and a lot can happen. But the Packers HAVE to beat the Bengals and the Bears the next two weeks without a doubt. GO LIONS!!

dobber's picture

"The Packers have 14 games to make up 2 games on Atlanta, that's a lot of games and a lot can happen. But the Packers HAVE to beat the Bengals and the Bears the next two weeks without a doubt. GO LIONS!!"

I don't worry about Atlanta for the reasons you cite. Anything can happen. But the first priority (aside from winning this week, of course) is always winning the division. No, this isn't complacency for those who insist that there are too many fans who are happy with this threshhold goal. It's that you can't host a playoff game, much less two, or get a bye unless you win your division. Detroit might be a threat. They need to lose--especially to a good conference team that's already beaten the Packers (think divisional tie-breaks)--and the Packers need to get back to lead-dog status. Once that happens, we can worry about getting cute with who we hope Atlanta loses to.

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