Packers place Equanimeous St. Brown on injured reserve
By PackerAaron
The Packers announced their initial 53 man roster earlier this afternoon. One of the noteworthy items in the team's offiicial releae is that they have placed second year wide receiver Equanimeous St. Brown on injured reserve.
This is noteworthy because St. Brown was not on the initial 53 man roster, which means being placed on injrued reserve ends his season. He is not eligible to be brought back later in the year.
It had been reported that EQ had suffered a high ankle sprain during last Thursday nights preseason game against the Raiders. Perhaps the injury is a bit more serious than previously thought.
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Comments (74)
jeepingmakooi
August 31, 2019 at 05:37 pm
Sucks for EQ... Losing a year... Hope lazard clears waivers to bring back to the ps
NickPerry
September 01, 2019 at 09:16 am
Here's a thought... The Packers actually could use a speedy veteran. Jaron Brown was cut by Seattle so they could afford the trade with Clowney... What do you guys think of signing Jaron Brown if the price was right?
He signed a 2 year $5.5 million contract in March. The cap hit this year was $975,000.00. I have no idea what is left if any for next year and it really doesn't matter but that's not my point. He's a VETERAN who was actually pretty good in Baltimore last season, and if you remember pretty good for the Cardinals. He and Byron Hoyer might be smart additions to this offense.
Rak43
September 01, 2019 at 09:47 am
Wow! I just read where the Saints took Vince Biegel and actually traded him for an ILB of all things,lol. They actually traded him to Miami for Kiko Alonso who has started 46 of 48 games in the past 3 years. How the hell the Saints pulled that off is beyond me. Is it possible Biegel showed some promise in preseason? Struggling to rap my head around how they got a starter quality ILB for a 4th round pick that was cut and has no NFL resume to speak of.
NickPerry
September 01, 2019 at 10:30 am
UGH!!!!! How is that even possible? The Dolphins really are in FULL DUMP MODE!
Hey, maybe we could take Kenyon Drake off their hands for Dexter Williams... (No offense Dexter)
jannesbjornson
September 01, 2019 at 12:49 pm
Just moving salary Cap for the weasel Ross. This is who the Patriots go up against for the past twenty years. Jets, Miami, Buffalo....
flackcatcher
September 01, 2019 at 06:15 pm
"the weasel" Which may the most polite thing said about him.......
Bure9620
August 31, 2019 at 05:51 pm
Sucks, I really like EQ, he will be in a battle for a spot next year.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
August 31, 2019 at 10:07 pm
Bet he is really in a bad place tonight knowing he has to sit out a whole year due to a high ankle sprain. Yikes! You train and workout all year and then you sprain an ankle. Gotta be hard to get motivated for a whole year to try all over again.
Coldworld
September 01, 2019 at 07:18 am
High ankle sprains are never good though. Usually mean a protracted time off because of risk of reoccurrence and delay between fitness and full utility.
jannesbjornson
September 01, 2019 at 12:51 pm
Recall Adams on and off issues with his bad sprain, playing in pain while the Fans whined about his performance.
mrtundra
September 02, 2019 at 08:48 am
For a season and a half, Adams couldn't catch the ball, either. His sprain had little to do with his catching abilities. His head did, however. Glad he got that straightened out.
Leatherhead
September 01, 2019 at 06:07 pm
That is true, but they certainly don't need to be a career ender. He can spend an entire year now doing physical therapy, hitting the weights, studying film, etc., and there's no reason he couldn't be a part of our WR for years to come.
It's unfortunate, but I'm sure he'll handle the whole setback with equanimity.
flackcatcher
September 01, 2019 at 06:21 pm
Still don't know how much muscle, nerve damage etc. ESB took on the play. It is usually up to the player as this is a long term medical issue. It's crap like this, is why I hate the Davis family. Like father, like son.
ThxJackVainisi
August 31, 2019 at 05:52 pm
Good. They keep the rights to EQ and don't expose someone else to waivers (to keep EQ on the 53 and then IR him).
stockholder
August 31, 2019 at 06:40 pm
EQ is done as a Packer. Injury settlement coming.
Coldworld
August 31, 2019 at 06:53 pm
That’s the normal route, but this type of injury is well known for prolonged return timescales and downgraded performance. They may have just decided he would be better served to come back next season when other spots (Allison) may open and that they had adequate depth this year. We will see.
jannesbjornson
August 31, 2019 at 08:13 pm
How many reps would EQ. get with Allison and Kumerow in line ahead of him? It may be for the best.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
August 31, 2019 at 07:02 pm
Hope you are wrong!
dvanallen
August 31, 2019 at 11:58 pm
Same approach they took with Kumerow last year. It sucks for Eq, but it's a business and the organization has to do what's best for itself within the rules of the league.
Coldworld
September 01, 2019 at 07:22 am
Kumerow was on the roster in the 53 then moved to in-season IR.
EQ was in the roster before the 53 was set.
Kumerow was therefore able to be brought back from IR. EQ can not be.
So really I would say significantly different handling of the two. I would guess that the reasons are likely depth this year and the nature of the injury.
Rebecca
August 31, 2019 at 05:52 pm
Redmond on the 53 and ESB to IR was the only move I got wrong on the final 53. I still have questions though.
jannesbjornson
August 31, 2019 at 06:07 pm
I hit on everybody but Redmond. I had Wilkens to the 53. Thought the idea of EQ out ten weeks or longer was too steep a price to pay for a spot on the defense. Shepherd deserved his spot and is good insurance in the event Davis gets injured, fortifying the return game.
Coldworld
August 31, 2019 at 08:39 pm
Shepherd covers Davis on returns and provides options In the slot no one else does as well as additional coverage. I’m glad he made it. Quite an achievement.
Redmond played really well on Thursday and has the ability to read the field and be in the right area. That’s a great plus for a safety (one might argue essential for a deep one). He also tackled well at key moments and even played some SS. He earned his spot in my view. He was a ball hawk in college before injuries, so he has skills. He has been my sleeper pick since game 1.
My two big disappointments not tied to current injuries are that Markus Jones was cut. I see him as being necessary to make up numbers but also as having genuine upside. Has made plays since he arrived mid camp.
The other disappointment is that they wasted time on Carson (cut after by far his best game which speaks volumes) and largely ignored Ford, who is a much better athlete. It’s speculative, but I would have felt better with him having a shot at RB3 and keeping Williams at RB 4 if that is what it took at least until Williams can handle basic protection ( which I think could be a while).
jannesbjornson
August 31, 2019 at 08:15 pm
See if Ford gets on the P squad.
Bure9620
August 31, 2019 at 06:28 pm
Me too, Also has Lazard over Sheppard
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
August 31, 2019 at 10:08 pm
I would have kept Lazard over Shepherd
BuckyDaBadger
August 31, 2019 at 09:20 pm
only 2 wrong on the 53 prediction....time to set up a meeting for you with Gute! :)
Lombago
August 31, 2019 at 06:10 pm
Why could EQ not go to PUP?
Lare
August 31, 2019 at 06:14 pm
Only players that have not practiced in training camp can go on PUP. EQ had to go on IR, either before being added to the roster or after.
Tedlyflyfisher
August 31, 2019 at 06:14 pm
I’m really happy for Chandon Sullivan and Will Redmon. I like this 53. I hope Bolton clears waivers and hangs on for us. Lazard too, if he’s eligible for the PS (not sure about that).
stockholder
August 31, 2019 at 06:36 pm
All three won't be here next year. Look for more changes.
Coldworld
August 31, 2019 at 07:08 pm
Oh go on, you might be pleasantly surprised by one of them. Tramon’s still here.
jannesbjornson
August 31, 2019 at 06:41 pm
Bolton is either on the IR or waiting out an injury settlement. The 53 is set for now.
Rak43
August 31, 2019 at 07:22 pm
Bolton was waived injured. If no one claims him he would go to GB's IR.
I also read Packers can wait til he get better than resign him although I'm not sure how that works if he reverts back to IR. I'm kinda scratching my head trying to figure out Bolton's situation.
jannesbjornson
August 31, 2019 at 08:17 pm
The Great Reynaldo will have to clarify the procedure.
Coldworld
August 31, 2019 at 08:46 pm
If he reverts, they will negotiate an injury settlement. Once that is reached, any team can sign him except the Packers for a period of three weeks. After three weeks, the Packers can resign him to the roster or to the PS.
If they believe that an undersized rookie FA is nit likely to be sought after and thus available after the three weeks, this could actually have him back in a month IF he is healthy. IR would be longer.
Since we don’t know his medical prognosis we can’t know if this was the thinking, but it is the only explanation I can see for waiving a player they were excited about as a starter a handful of days ago.
mattgsx
August 31, 2019 at 09:46 pm
If he is released on an injury settlement, G. would be restricted from resigning him for the length of the settlement + 3 weeks, but he would be a free agent free to sign with any other team.
If they can't reach an injury settlement he goes on IR, he cannot be released until he passes a physical, and GB is prohibited from activating him this year since he was never part of the final 53.
Thegreatreynoldo
September 01, 2019 at 06:45 am
Agree with Matt G. If Bolton passes through waivers, he reverts to IR, and GB then has choices. Injury settlement or if they can't reach an agreement GB can just wait for him to be able to pass a physical.
Since he was waived injured, he was never released. Bolton is a Packer unless a claim is made. If not claimed, his contract is still in effect. Note that OTC lists his cap hit at $380K, which is the $378K minimum for a split contract plus one third of his $7K signing bonus, or $2,333. OTC is still prorating his signing bonus because his contract is still in force.
My understanding is that Bolton would simply be on the IR, and GB would retain control over him for 2020 and 2021 per his contract (if he goes unclaimed). Bolton then could return in 2020 to compete for Burks' job or to be the backup to Burks. I am not sure if Bolton earns a credited season if he is on IR for 2 games or if he earns an accrued season if he's on it for 6 games. He has to be on "full pay status" whereas he is on the split contract minimum. I'd have to quick check the CBA, but my phone doesn't like the 300 page PDF.
Personally, I think GB should just leave Bolton on the IR all year and retain control and take the cap hit because I think he has potential. Does GB like Bolton $22K per week? If they gave him a 4 week injury settlement, GB would save $289K on the cap. GB could re-sign him after 7 weeks, but he might be on some other team's 53 or PS.
Coldworld
September 01, 2019 at 07:31 am
It all depends on the injury. If his return is relatively short term then the settlement approach is a way to get him back sooner if he is not grabbed by another team.
If the injury is near or truly season long then leaving g him on IR would make sense to retain his rights. That said, no need to waive him injured. Like EQ, just put him on IR if that is the plan. That’s why the full year theory doesn’t ring true for me.
It is possible that they just don’t know. Bolton has said that further tests are required to narrow the prognosis. The adopted approach has some risk of loss but keeps options open without having to expose another player to waivers and allows a return to the PS or 53 at any time after 3 weeks from settlement.
Thegreatreynoldo
September 01, 2019 at 09:21 am
Yes, that all makes sense, Coldworld. And it may be that they just don't know exactly the extent of Bolton's injury, or perhaps Burks' as well. GB does only get 5 days to reach an injury settlement, though.
So I'd like to amend my comment by incorporating by reference to your comment.
4zone
August 31, 2019 at 08:44 pm
Being injured should keep Bolton from being picked up on an active roster. Look for him back on the PS.
Rak43
September 01, 2019 at 01:33 am
I hope you're right! I like that kid, he plays aggressive with a lot of heart and a chip on his shoulder. He has solid athletic ability and has potential to be a good ILB.
jannesbjornson
September 01, 2019 at 06:59 am
Probably just IR the guy. If they wanted to bring him back on the designated IR, he would be on the initial 53. Somebody may like his film and place a claim in for him? Have to wait it out.
ThxJackVainisi
August 31, 2019 at 06:38 pm
Did all who guessed the final 53 have Fadol Brown making it? Good for you if you did - and I'm happy for him. My only prediction was Gutekunst would pick up someone (or two) off of the waiver wire to play ILB and maybe RB. Obviously wrong... so far anyway.
I was also happy to see Kizer & J'Mon cut. Nothing against either or them of course, but for the longest time the Packers would keep draftees over UDFAs who did more to earn the spot. The trade capital spent on Kizer and the draft capital spent on J'Mon is gone: Glad to see they realized that and not let it interfere with their roster decisions.
jannesbjornson
August 31, 2019 at 06:42 pm
Fadol Brown made some nice plays last season as the five tech. He is a player.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
August 31, 2019 at 07:05 pm
I think Fadol is too! Was ripping up practices earlier prior to injury.
Coldworld
August 31, 2019 at 07:11 pm
I loved Brown as a find last year and he was one I wanted to watch in camp. He lasted a day or so I think and looked great., but I thought his chance was gone like Donnerson’s.
Apparently they must have really liked him. I think he is one too many at the position, but I’m surprised and happy that it’s him if they are going to have that many.
jannesbjornson
August 31, 2019 at 11:31 pm
CW, more 4-3 looks to be expected from Pettine. Play the run on the way to the QB.
Coldworld
September 01, 2019 at 07:33 am
May have to be, given numbers at LB and DL. Still short in my opinion.
flackcatcher
September 01, 2019 at 07:09 pm
I find it interesting that the Packers preferred position still is DB, as it was last year. I think we should be careful with what formation the Packers come out in. While it may look like a 4-3, with the skill set, this defense will certainly not play like it. I'm beginning to believe that what defensive formation "the Mad Doctor" uses will be nothing more than a shell to hide his scheme and system and what rules his players play under. We saw hints of that last year, before injuries tore that all apart. Packers defense could look like Wisconsin's, with all those mad skill athletes at DL and LB. (Bucky plays a hybrid 3-4 which swings to a 5-2 or even a 1-5. It's a true high risk match up D focusing on the LOS plus 7 either way. The Packers look to shift that concept to the secondary with how the NFL has changed their pass rules. If true, then the need for longer leaner players who can swing from OLB to DE and Hybrid/DB who can play the run and cover the LOS plus 7 is no 1 and 1a in the Packers needs.) We will see next Thursday. Bear week Baby!!!!!!
4thand10
August 31, 2019 at 08:57 pm
It was a toss up between brown and Olive Sagapolu...I picked Olive because he got pressure and got his hand on a ball or 2 with tips. At least that what I remember seeing. I also thought they would keep an extra DL and let a safety go...because it’s deep talent at Safety, but special teams probably played a role in that. And I thought they might role with 3 QBs...Kizer leaving but Boyle and Wilkins staying. I don’t know if they plan on stashing Wilkins or not on the PS. Nice that they cut ties with Moore.... TED would have hung on to him for 3 yrs with zero production...
I honestly thought they would go cheap...cut Crosby and sign Ficken, they decided on the vet...he’s hot and cold so IDK if that’s a good thing or not. Oh, and I thought Markus Jones would make it...he had a nice game But they like Crawford. Summers wasn’t a surprise, he kept improving, made plays. Glad they found room for Sullivan and Shepherd.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
September 01, 2019 at 05:21 am
4th and 10,
Summers led the whole league in tackles in pre-season with 30. Just pre-season but no matter how you slice it that is impressive.
Coldworld
September 01, 2019 at 07:34 am
Raw yes, but we knew that. For me, the issue is not ability, we see that, but technique. If Summers can handle play calling as a rookie that’s a really good sign that he can learn.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
September 01, 2019 at 08:48 am
CW,
Agreed!
Personally, I think Ty is going to be a player for the Pack.
wildbill
August 31, 2019 at 06:58 pm
The 53 is not set yet, will see how it plays out but was real happy how it has worked out. Can probably drop Redman when Campbell is ready . The GuteMister is probably burning up the phones working on getting even better
ShooterMcGee
August 31, 2019 at 11:13 pm
hope he calls the Texans they are giving away things down there.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
August 31, 2019 at 07:06 pm
Kind of thought ESB would go on IR. Was hoping Lazard would make it. Surprized on Kizer but not upset about it as been a Boyle fan since his rookie pre-season.
Coldworld
August 31, 2019 at 07:13 pm
I think if Boyle has to play significantly it will do him more harm than good. It is at least a year too early for him and us.
flackcatcher
August 31, 2019 at 08:00 pm
It's not over yet. Got to believe Gute and his team are doing a deep dive into the list and looking for more trades to fill at least the backup QB slot. I counted two moves to open slots for DB and at least one more pickup at what the Packers deem a position of need. Going to be a fair amount of churn at the bottom third of this roster all season.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
August 31, 2019 at 09:12 pm
Cold,
Probably! Sure wish Boyle played a couple of late games last season.
Coldworld
August 31, 2019 at 11:38 pm
Yes. That was a horrible waste of a lot of opportunities for a number of players.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
September 01, 2019 at 05:22 am
Tonyan immediately comes to mind.
Swisch
August 31, 2019 at 07:33 pm
It's gotta be tough wondering if the elation of making the team today will turn into the dejection of being replaced by a waiver pick-up tomorrow.
The NFL is a tough business. Praying the best for all 90 of our preseason players.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
August 31, 2019 at 09:17 pm
Competition brings out the best in everyone. For a lot of those players that were cut many will never suit up again. However, the memories and friendships they made will last a lifetime. How many of us can say they were on a NFL roster? They have a lot to be proud of and those experiences will benefit them in future endeavors.
Guam
August 31, 2019 at 09:45 pm
Happy to see Gute is willing to cut ties with "his players" (Moore and KIzer) if they do not work out. I suspect the previous regime would have hung on longer to the detriment of the team.
I believe Campbell will displace either Redmond or Sullivan when he comes off the PUP list. I also hope the Packers get Bolton back either on the PS or 53 when he heals.
dobber
September 01, 2019 at 05:46 am
I suspect that by the time he comes off the PUP, there will be players to cut or IR.
Coldworld
September 01, 2019 at 07:40 am
I agree, If he comes off, he won’t have practiced for a year. It will take a while to get him ready to play. A lot can happen in that time.
I’m more intrigued by Roberts. He had core surgery and they have kept him on PUP. They must really like him I guess. Perhaps he is getting a redshirt year. I wonder if they knew that this was likely and that factored into the unusually high UDFA bonus for GB.
crayzpackfan
August 31, 2019 at 10:28 pm
It will be interesting to see if the Packers grab anyone off the waiver pool. I see at least 10 players out there that could add some depth for this years team. QB, ILB, RB, OL, there’s some nice players out there and some interesting young guys they could develop. I’m excited about this season.
Since'61
September 01, 2019 at 12:05 am
Finally had a chance to look over the initial 53. I thought Lazard had a shot but maybe he still makes the PS.
Good to see that Kizer is chucked. Crosby over Ficken is the smart move. Beyond that there really aren’t any surprises so far. Still need to get through waivers etc. before the 53 and the PS are finalized.
Gute may still have a few moves left.
Thanks, Since ‘61
mrtundra
September 02, 2019 at 08:53 am
Crosby over Ficken. I'm betting the Packers draft a Kicker next draft.
MarkinMadison
September 01, 2019 at 07:07 am
QB, RB, ILB and OLB all seem like areas that could be addressed. Other than QB I'm not sure that rolling the bottom of the roster will make a huge difference. I wouldn't be shocked to see a K signed to the PS.
PackersWinning
September 01, 2019 at 07:46 am
Goody is a pro. He made performance based roster moves. Boyle and Shepard earned spots. I feel great about 5he future of the team
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
September 01, 2019 at 08:54 am
PW,
I too agree! Love the turn around with Gutey!
Roadrunner23
September 01, 2019 at 08:23 am
Rehab and get ready for next years Super Bowl run EQ!