Packers Need Veteran Backup Quarterback Regardless

Whether the journeyman backs up Rodgers, Love, or stays QB3 on the depth chart, veteran experience is necessary this season. 

As rumors circulate about whether or not Aaron Rodgers will return to the Packers for his 17th NFL season, Green Bay needs a veteran quarterback to round out the depth chart regardless of Rodgers’ status with the team. 

With Tim Boyle departing in free agency, Jordan Love is rightfully QB2. While we haven’t seen his progress yet given the lack of preseason games in 2020, going into his sophomore season, it’s only natural Love will climb the depth chart and back up Rodgers. But right now, only Rodgers and Love are on the roster; there’s no third quarterback. That will change before training camp, as the Packers always have a third quarterback at least on the practice squad if not the active roster going into the season. 

This year, that third quarterback needs to be someone with plenty of NFL experience. It’s possible Green Bay has found another undrafted free agent they’re high on, just like Boyle in 2018. And that would be great as a developmental prospect on the practice squad. But when it comes to the third quarterback on the roster, it’s time to bring in a vet. 

This again has nothing to do with Rodgers’ status with the team or with Love’s perceived lack of development. It’s just smart for the Packers. Think about the pressure a journeyman quarterback could take off Rodgers if he’s there to answer all of Love’s questions and assist in his development so Rodgers doesn’t have to. 

Here’s another thing. We don’t know what any of this will do to Rodgers’ and Love’s relationship. It’s hard to picture a seamless transition to training camp where Rodgers and Love fake-wrestle all season like Rodgers did in 2020 with Boyle. And while it’s not Rodgers’ job to help develop his potential successor, a strained relationship could hinder Love’s progress if he’s afraid to come to QB1 with questions. 

As the second quarterback on the roster who had experience backing up Rodgers, Boyle was also important to Love’s development.  

“At the end of the day, I have to get myself ready to be the best quarterback possible whether I’m ‘2,’ or ‘3’ or (practice) squad. Whatever they have me doing, I just want to help the team,” Boyle said during training camp last August. “The upper management can handle those situations, but I’m just going to handle my reps and be there for Aaron and be there for Jordan and continue to be a good, positive shining light on this team.”

Boyle is entering his fourth NFL season, now with the Detroit Lions, and has never started an NFL game. While he has undeniable experience learning from Rodgers and serving as his backup, the Packers developed him in-house. While another undrafted rookie could come in and show similar growth over the course of a few seasons, going into the 2021 season, Green Bay needs veteran depth on the roster. Veteran doesn’t have to mean “journeyman from 2008” like this next example, but it also should include someone who’s been around the league and started NFL games. 

A good example of the veteran mentor dynamic is Drew Stanton backing up Baker Mayfield in Cleveland. It’s slightly different since Mayfield immediately got the keys to the Browns franchise as a rookie and wasn’t attempting to follow a now-three-time MVP, but there are numerous reports about how much Stanton helped Mayfield’s development. Stanton was less of a backup and more of an NFL mentor, a sounding board for Mayfield who had played in the league since 2008 and knew the ins and outs of leading a football team. 

In a 2019 article on the Cleveland Browns team website, Anthony Poisal writes, “Stanton's role is to provide as much support and information to Mayfield as possible, but Stanton won't call himself a "mentor." He doesn't know what to call that part of his role. He's just here to help Mayfield out with whatever he needs, and that list is a tad less for Stanton in Year 2 of the Mayfield era.” The article then goes on to explain Stanton’s impact on Mayfield’s development specifically in quarterback meetings. 

Josh McCown during his time in Philadelphia is another example of this. He backed up Carson Wentz in 2019 and stayed on the Eagles practice squad in 2020 to assist the quarterback room virtually. McCown had his moments as an NFL starter, but he’s about as journeyman as they come, playing for double-digit NFL franchises. The knowledge he’s accumulated from the game has led to multiple teams considering him for coaching positions when he eventually decides to retire from the game. 

In September of 2020, Jason La Canfora of CBS wrote an article titled “NFL execs see Eagles' Josh McCown as a future head coach, and it could come sooner rather than later.

La Confora writes, “He has left an indelible imprint on all of those teams and impressed a legion of coaches and executives with his ability to absorb and disseminate information and serve as a trusted leader and beloved teammate. Several teams thought he could have served as a play-caller while still on the sidelines. He has been a vital voice in quarterback rooms as far as installations and game-plan suggestions and is already getting coaching experience at the high school level.”

Now, again, McCown was brought in to back up a young quarterback in a starting NFL role, not help develop a potential starter, so there are differences here. But there’s also invaluable experience in giving a veteran quarterback a roster spot, even if in all reality they’ll never see the field. Even then, a “break glass in case of emergency” quarterback option has to instill more confidence in the front office than an undrafted rookie free agent would.

Is there a risk that bringing in a journeyman veteran could rub Rodgers the wrong way? Sure. Rodgers has primarily shared the quarterback room with players the franchise developed in-house, like Boyle or Brett Hundley. Matt Flynn is probably the most recent example of a veteran coming in to backup Rodgers, and even Flynn was a Packers draft pick that came back to the team when Rodgers was injured in 2013. But the Packers have a number of different scenarios they need to plan for, including the possibility that Rodgers isn’t under center in 2021. There’s no way Green Bay could start the season with Love being backed up by an undrafted rookie. 

If all of this blows over and Rodgers gets a long-term extension to ride off into the sunset and retire a Green Bay Packer, all of this matters even less and a veteran quarterback on a one-year deal can still assist with Love’s development before Love gets traded to a QB-needy franchise in 2022. 

Or maybe Rodgers and Love will never be able to coexist, and this article is pointless because a veteran would come in and be QB2 immediately, whether they’re backing up Rodgers or Love. Even in that scenario, the backup needs to be someone with NFL experience, not a rookie. 

 

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Maggie Loney is a writer for Cheesehead TV and podcaster for the Pack-A-Day Podcast and Pack's What She Said. Find her on Twitter at @MaggieJLoney.

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KenEllis's picture

May 04, 2021 at 12:32 pm

No ... the Packers only need to add a veteran QB if Rodgers departs.

You cannot spend a 2020 1st and 4th round pick on a QB and not give him every opportunity to be the BACKUP QB in 2021.

Stop peddling the Packers' company line to make it seem like Rodgers' departure does not have consequences and start keeping it real.

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MaggieLoney's picture

May 04, 2021 at 12:07 pm

You didn't read the article...did you. "Or maybe Rodgers and Love will never be able to coexist, and this article is pointless because a veteran would come in and be QB2 immediately, whether they’re backing up Rodgers or Love. Even in that scenario, the backup needs to be someone with NFL experience, not a rookie."

So a veteran would back up Love and/or be QB3 on the depth chart. It's literally in the title.

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KenEllis's picture

May 04, 2021 at 12:41 pm

Are you really asserting that the Pack should sign a free agent veteran QB to be INACTIVE on game days ("QB3 on the depth chart") in 2021 if Rodgers is still in GB so he can back up both Rodgers and Love?

Why would GB possibly do that?

The ONLY possible rational explanation for signing a veteran FA QB if Rodgers and Love are both on the roster to begin the season would be that Love is not even qualified to be the backup.

If that is what you are contending, say it.

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MaggieLoney's picture

May 04, 2021 at 01:28 pm

That's not what I'm contending. The entire point I'm making is that if Love is your starter in 2021, you need a veteran in the room to help his development, just like the example I used in the article with Stanton and Mayfield.

If Rodgers and Love are both on the roster going into the season, which is hard to envision given the tension that will exist in that room, then bringing in a veteran as QB3 can aid in Love's development and take that pressure off Rodgers. Rodgers doesn't want to come in and mentor someone who's looking to be his successor. And Rodgers definitely doesn't want to deal with Love and a UDFA in the QB room. There's no support for him with two young players learning the position. Just like Tim Boyle was a buffer in 2020, getting a guy like, say, Nick Mullens in 2021 would serve as a similar buffer.

This has nothing to do with me saying Love can't/won't be QB2. Maybe GB feels that way. But that wasn't the point I was trying to make here.

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greengold's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:18 pm

You know what, Maggie, I see you went into this with your eyes wide open, not wanting to stir the pot.

From my perspective, if JL is pegged by this staff to be the #1, and they bring a vet in as the #2 - it could benefit Love and his sense of leadership helping a vet QB to get up to speed with LaFleur's system.

Again, I think your last paragraph spoke to that, in not so many words. Well done.

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Coldworld's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:28 pm

In the scenario that Rodgers is gone, I agree that a veteran back up makes sense. If Rodgers returns to start, I disagree, for one thing a decent vet would cost too much in cap and roster spots.

There is a decent possibility that we have one or more base level veterans in camp since we didn’t find a UDFA. Beyond that, we aren’t keeping 3 QBs on the roster in any scenario that I can envisage.

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greengold's picture

May 05, 2021 at 09:06 am

I seriously don’t see AR returning to GB. We all know we’re pretty much sitting here, for lack of a better term, with the proverbial gun to our heads.

AR made his stance known through Adam Schefter on draft day.

DEN made the trade for Bridgewater the night before the draft. We currently have no backup QB and DEN has 4. This deal is done. I wanted this to work out differently, like everybody else here. What are the Packers to do? Make the deal, begin a new era with the guy you saw as being the future, with an armload of picks a couple of quality players in return, and an improved cap situation.

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BJP's picture

May 04, 2021 at 06:43 pm

If Rodgers isn’t available for a game for whatever reason, the Packers can’t afford to count on Jordan Love necessarily. That’s the reason for a veteran among others. This team is built to win right now. If you have three quarterbacks on the team, you treat them all as starters, just as LeFleur said. This is professional football not quarterback school.

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Coldworld's picture

May 04, 2021 at 07:33 pm

Love is a a bonafide prospect at least, despite being untested. Who do you propose as a viable FA starter absent a Rodgers trade and cap space? Not a lot out there and less we have cap room for.

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Minniman's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:40 pm

KenEllis you have to agree that, right here right now, the Packers would be negligent-in-the-extreme by not investigating the path of replacing Rodgers in the QB room if he decides to leave.

Sure, priority 1 should be finding a workable path forward with Aaron Rodgers for the foreseeable future - however from the outside looking in, the ball looks to be in Rodgers court as to what he wants to do.

Better to do that sooner rather than later.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:11 pm

Well, he doesn't want to lose 20+ Million.

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Minniman's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:34 pm

fair call

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HankScorpio's picture

May 04, 2021 at 12:19 pm

There is exactly a 0.0% chance Jordan Love is not on the roster on opening day. Such a total cave to Rodgers by releasing/trading him would cut the nuts off the entire front office and then it is game over.

If that is as a starter, a vet backup and a PS/developmental youngster is preferred, IMO. Unless they continue with relaxing PS rules for Covid for 2021, that third guy cannot be a vet.

i still believe the most likely scenario is that Rodgers starts, Love is the backup and someone is found to be a PS QB in case of emergency. Rodgers has about 30 million reasons to play and I don't believe he is really as thin-skinned as he's coming off through all this media BS his team is pumping out.

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Since'61's picture

May 04, 2021 at 01:16 pm

Hank while I agree it is unlikely that Love would not be on the roster on opening day, I have seen enough over the last 6 decades of following sports to never say never about anything.

It is intriguing to me that we think we still need a veteran backup if Rodgers is still on the team. We did not have a veteran backup last season unless you to consider Boyle a veteran backup after having thrown 4 passes in his NFL career to date.

Now if Rodgers is gone then yes I would hope to see a vet come into TC this year. But what will a vet cost in terms of the cap? The better ones will be very expensive and on the flip side why would we want a poor QB at any price.
It could be that the Packers don't believe that Love will be ready to start the season and they will want to have a vet begin the season as Love transitions into the starting role, I don't know.

If Rodgers remains I would rather bring in one or 2 developmental QBs and give them every to learn and develop.
Thanks, Since '61

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:04 pm

All I can say is Justin Herbert's rookie year for the Chargers.

4,336 yards

31 TD's

INT's 10

QB Rating 69.5

Herbert and Love were rookies together during covid and both are going into season 2. Let's quit coddling Love. He had a better training camp completion ratio than Boyle last year in his 3rd season and in his 2nd full year in LF's offense.

The Packers have talent at OL, the slot WR now, the TE's, the WR's out wide, and the RB's. Also make the trade and steal the team taking our diva QB best WR. The Packers offense is loaded. A few growing pains sure but Love is going to impress. Stop coddling Love! He is ready and will surprise and impress!

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GregC's picture

May 04, 2021 at 09:45 pm

Herbert's QB rating was 98.3 I doubt that Love is ready to lead a team to a championship this season, but I wouldn't mind seeing him take over. Rodgers has worn out his welcome as far as I'm concerned. I was sick of Favre by the end too.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

May 06, 2021 at 05:01 am

Right. His QBR was 69.5. Pretty good: AR's was 58, 52.5 and 84.4 in 2020.

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splitpea1's picture

May 04, 2021 at 10:24 pm

Herbert played incredibly well last season for a rookie. A lot of Chargers games were on national TV in my area for some reason, he just made a lot of great throws. Unfortunately, the Chargers had a knack for losing close games; their special teams were horrible, and in a couple of losses, the opponent had the ball last and the defense couldn't stop them.... Anyway, if Love has a rookie season anywhere close to that of Herbert, we should all be ecstatic.

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greengold's picture

May 04, 2021 at 12:17 pm

I think the Packers should trade for Teddy Bri...d.....g........ oh, never mind.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

May 04, 2021 at 12:29 pm

Better ask Rodgers first. If he feels threatened by a 22 year old who has never played a snap in the NFL how is he going to feel if the Packers bring in a veteran with real playing experience?

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MITM's picture

May 04, 2021 at 01:50 pm

Haha...He will never feel "threatened" by Jordan Love. The Bears called F'N Andy Dalton to let him know they were going to draft Justin Fields, but Rodgers (and allegedly Lafleur also) was not informed which is completely WRONG, there is no debating that. Rodgers has completely earned the right to be informed on things like that, and even have a say in personnel. The turning on Rodgers amongst Packers fans who dont even know the whole story yet is despicable.

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wsn's picture

May 04, 2021 at 02:15 pm

Agree. Hard to explain a lack of heads up, if indeed that is the case. I have a hard time imagining Rodgers has a hard time with love, and very hard to conceive him being threatened by love. Probably started out as extension negotiations and turned really ugly.

My guess, Rodgers gets his extension, Rodgers starts, love backs up a few years and becomes a the legitimate heir ti the throne or is traded and a new qb is drafted. Gute, will still be doing the picks.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:28 pm

"Hard to explain a lack of heads up"

No it's not really. Gute was working hard trying to trade up to get a WR and when that didn't work out was working hard to trade up to get a QB he though was an exceptional value. He wasn't sitting around waiting for something to do. I agreed it would have been nice to inform Rodgers. But if he really is THAT sensitive that this makes him want to leave then that's on him. Gute was not trying draft a QB just to slight Rodgers. If Rodgers is offended then he is choosing to be offended.

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Minniman's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:52 pm

A good point. We are talking about circa 30 mins elapsed time here.

Reports were that Gute was gunning for Jefferson (who went 4 picks earlier)so clearly had to go to his big board and design a fallback plan.

Perhaps the aftermath should have been handled way, way better

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wsn's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:14 pm

I agree with the sentiment that he is choosing to be offended, but I wonder if it started as a negotiation that turned south rather than Rodgers truly being offended. I suspect there is more to the story than we'll ever know.

I think the view that a qb just fell to them is a bit myopic. Gute did his due diligence, I believe I'd read even went to see love play. Thus wasn't a spur off the moment decision that lacked long term consideration. I'd imagine this allowed ample time to communicate the possibility. And the board worked out in gute's opinion to entice pulling the trigger.

I also doubt gute drafted love to slight Rodgers. But I feel a bit more strongly that the personnel management may have been fumbled.

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Coldworld's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:31 pm

A heads up would have been nice but made no material credible difference at this point.

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BJP's picture

May 04, 2021 at 06:51 pm

The only thin-skinned people around are those hating on Rodgers for wanting an extension. Aaron doesn’t have any problem with Jordan Love. Aaron has been more loyal and faithful to the Green Bay Packers and has done more for them than any fan in existence.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 04, 2021 at 02:44 pm

Are you saying we should be more like the Bears???

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HankScorpio's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:55 pm

I had that Bears line in the reply I decided against making. I'm a little uneasy that we're seeing so much the same way these days. Like it is the end of days or something.

Can we argue about WRs a little? Just so the world isn't complete upside down?

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HankScorpio's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:21 pm

"The turning on Rodgers amongst Packers fans who dont even know the whole story yet is despicable."

Just check the stadium. It says "Green Bay Packers". As a fan of the team, I'll support the players until they start harming the team, When they do, I won't hold back on my criticism. I would view it as turning on the team to see things any differently than I do.

You can call that despicable if you like. I call it being a fan.

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Coldworld's picture

May 04, 2021 at 07:34 pm

If you think back to Favre, that type of invective was common. What happened was fans sorted themselves out into hard core Favre orFranchise first fans on both ends and there was a lot of that invective, particularly from those emotionally invested in the individual.

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MITM's picture

May 04, 2021 at 06:24 pm

Rodgers has done NOTHING yet to harm this team, hence my point about people already picking sides. We dont even have one FULL true explanation and people want to get mad at Rodgers? Here's a quick list of defensive players who STARTED on a Rodgers led team - that mostly never even played a game for another NFL franchise.

MD Jennings
Jerron Mcmillian
Dezman Moses
Andy Mulumba
Nate Palmer
Ladarius Gunter

To name a few off the top of my head. We beat the 49ers and Kapernick finally IN Green Bay if we didnt think we could just throw Andy Mulumba out there to keep contain. Remember that 3rd down rush he allowed Kapernick to get outside of him on that ended the game? We STARTED these guys, they couldnt even crack special teams on another NFL team. In the Rodgers hail mary Cardinals playoff game, who were his receivers? Now go and compare Bradys Super Bowl years and the defenses he played with. Most of them were very good defenses. He cant win without one. But Rodgers for the better part of a decade had to roll out there with a JV defense to win a Super Bowl? He has every right to feel slighted, after all these years.

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PeteK's picture

May 04, 2021 at 07:00 pm

Every team in creation will pale compared to Pats with Brady ,so that is a poor example. So he waits until now to complain , with a team that could be improved and have another legitimate chance. While he had a very good game ,he also made mistakes vs Bucs( didn't run, or made a good throw to Adams).This type of drama ,uncertainty, and friction is selfish and can divide a team and lesson moral. Actions unbecoming from the leader of the team.

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HankScorpio's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:11 am

"Rodgers has done NOTHING yet to harm this team, hence my point about people already picking sides. "

That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. I see it differently. He's undermining leadership and distracting them from doing their job. I'll grant you that is not an unforgivable sin. But coming from the on field face of the franchise is takes greater importance than if it was coming from that list of slug players you named.

And sure, he's entitled to feel however he wants. My wife taught me that I should never attempt to invalidate feelings. Where that ends is when he starts to act on them. It's not a marriage like I have with my wife where feelings matter. It's a football team. He's been paid lots of money to play football. The contractual obligations extend to financial gain for Rodgers. Nobody ever promised him a rose garden, Suck it up, buttercup.

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BJP's picture

May 04, 2021 at 06:48 pm

Aaron Rodgers wants an extension. Gutekunst doesn’t want to give it. End of story.

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GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

May 04, 2021 at 08:49 pm

Absolutely agree these fans that have blind faith in the GB Front office is really pathetic. They are just happy making the playoffs year after year and not seriously competing for or winning the Lombardi. Prepare yourselves for life after AR.

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Since'61's picture

May 04, 2021 at 11:18 pm

Stadium sold out for decades, win or lose. Titletown is open
win or lose. The money keeps rolling in and the beat goes on, win or lose. Becomes very easy when there is nothing to lose, no accountability, and no sense of urgency, win or lose.
1968 - 1995, 28 seasons.
2011 - ??? 10 seasons and counting.

Thanks, Since ‘61

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 05, 2021 at 10:09 am

The new Fans can see through the purple haze. They were trained by the old school from the days of Vince. Play to win it, not participate. The past decade has been torture watching this team piss away chances to play in the Big Game. The whole operation should have been scrutinized and heads rolling after the Seattle debacle. Instead,
they all gave each other a raise.

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Dragon5's picture

May 05, 2021 at 11:22 am

Since'61, I'm glad to see someone with executive business acumen continue to pull back the veil. Reminds me a lot of my April '20 post where I said:

"Murphy is basically a wolf in sheep's clothing as a commercial real estate developer in his PFO role."

A champion requires adversity to seeing it through. Communication is a fatal flaw in this organization from the top down and it needs to be addressed. QB-GM not the same page. QB-COACH and COACH-DC not on the same page in NFC championship game. Certainly this organization has to remain profitable to compete in an inflationary business model. However, as a Packer fan, I find it most disheartening, that we continue to stray from, perhaps Wisconsin's most heralded icon's finest words:

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi

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Nate-1980's picture

May 04, 2021 at 11:40 pm

Spot on, what’s even more hilarious is their blind faith in a Jordan love run offense haha..:)

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 08:15 am

I don’t see blind faith in love from anyone. If I see blind faith it’s in Rodgers being as good as last year in 2024.

This isn’t about who is the best QB now, it’s about conflict between the king term health of a franchise, the interests of an aging star, how that has been handled, the justification for that and the after effects of what both sides want, including this and future years, cap and dead money, locker room chemistry and more, depending about what one gives credence to in recent public comments.

The only thing that is beyond the pale is unthinking, slavish devotion to one side coupled with rather pathetic personal insults to those who disagree. Congratulations.

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HankScorpio's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:17 am

Supporting the team is called being a fan, to some people. Other people think being a fan requires identifying the mistakes the team is making. Plus plenty of other definitions.

Still others believe that boot-licking is pathetic and won't do it out of principle, even if they understand that negative consequence is the result.

The world is made up of all kinds of people.

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blondy45's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:21 pm

Great point Jeremy. Rodgers is so thin skinned his lack of a spine is starting to show.

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Bure9620's picture

May 04, 2021 at 07:20 pm

He is going to be pisssed regardless. If the Packers offered him an extension he wouldn't accept it. I think the trust has been lost and the relationship has run its course.

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splitpea1's picture

May 04, 2021 at 12:38 pm

Brett Hundley is available!

No, the only two vets I saw that may be of interest were Matt Moore (very old) and Nick Mullens. Moore did play pretty well against us in a 2019 game vs. KC.

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Matt Gonzales's picture

May 04, 2021 at 02:05 pm

I was actually thinking about Hundley. Should Rodgers actually demand a trade or sit out he (or Mullens) could make sense as a backup. They definitely have low ceilings, but they both have starting experience, and Mullens has experience running a similar offense with SF.

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Nate-1980's picture

May 04, 2021 at 11:44 pm

Hundley? Fucking seriously ? I’ve heard everything now, wow, just wow..

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BrettGB's picture

May 06, 2021 at 07:34 am

Did you see the game when he was with the Cardinals in Seattle where he came in and they won the game? He's developed since we last saw him in 2017, and I think he's an ok back-up. He'd be new to the offense however, if I'm not mistaken, so that's probably an unlikely move anyway, but not unfathomable.

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THESZOTMAN1's picture

May 04, 2021 at 12:41 pm

Hey, how about a competition between Josh McCown and Cade McNown! ;)

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stockholder's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:06 pm

It won't be a well known guy.

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mbpacker's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:14 pm

Who nowns for sure.

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Dragon5's picture

May 04, 2021 at 12:48 pm

Like Adams, Bridgewater, a MONKEY, would be a mistake as they both enter their enemy year in 2022. Should a Denver trade go down, Drew Lock, a RAT, may be a better alternative as a backup stop gap. Gives Denver a chance to own up to mistake, cut the loss, and move on. However, RAT is the secret friend of the OX and in the current OX year will have positive energy increasing odds of exceeding expectations in Packer uni. Denver would be wise to replace OC Pat Shurmur, a SNAKE. Rodgers is a PIG. SNAKE & PIG mortal enemies.

Rodgers & Adams
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Surtain, Jeudy, 2 1sts

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Since'61's picture

May 04, 2021 at 01:18 pm

It has been reported that Rodgers has already demanded that it's either him or Shurmur in Denver. LOL
Thanks, Since '61

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Coldworld's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:41 pm

Lol, feeling scurrilous today?

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wsn's picture

May 04, 2021 at 02:20 pm

Funny stuff. Were you the guy in the packer Jersey consulting his pacemat whilst eating a bowl of wonton soup.

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Dragon5's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:55 pm

No but I am the guy that said...

--(Jan'20) despite our OL being best in the league that it would be in dire need of help by the end of 2020 season due to Turner, Linsley, and Bahktiari entering their enemy year.
--(Jan'20) Pettine would be scapegoat & let go when 2020 concluded
--(Sept'20) Gute would be making a HUGE mistake to extend Bahktiari early...Bahk & Crosby had highest injury risk forecast for '20
--Franchise, Murphy, LaFleur, Hackett, 2/5 OL in enemy year in 2021

Glad you find it entertaining as a keyboard warrior to ridicule something you know nothing about. Perhaps you'll enjoy my April 11th post too. As Since'61 said in a recent post "Rats may begin jumping ship."

Dragon5April 11, 2021 at 03:16 pm
Regardless who is under center in 2022, it will be Adams (MONKEY) enemy year (TIGER). Not favorable for him nor the Packers from a retention perspective.
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He will enter a personal 7 year on his 31st birthday, strongly increasing his chance of injury and makes any contract longer than 2 years unappealing.
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Should Packers move on from Rodgers, I've previously mentioned committing to a Love-Adams QB-WR combo is a bad idea. TIGER & MONKEY = enemy signs.
Strike 3 unfortunately, yer out.
If the Packers opt to keep Rodgers, benefits Davante, but strongly temper expectations as we likely witnessed not just a career year, but Davante's climax. Paying for past performance at his age, position, and injury history considered is risky business; the numerology / astrology cherry on top is unfortunately a sour one. We'll see how the draft pans out, but given the "run it back" commitment, I foresee the potential for a rather disheartening implosion if they don't get it done this year...a tall order given the Franchise, President, Coach, OC, and 2/5 starting OLine are in their enemy year. Next year the Smith Bros & Adams will be too. Growth, cyclical in nature, does require sacrifice & discipline throughout the journey; enjoy every last drop of its sweet nectar while we can.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 05, 2021 at 10:17 am

Earth ,fire, air and water signs are Not elaborated in your version of Sino astrology and their effects during the Ox year.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

May 04, 2021 at 01:08 pm

Regardless of how "Rodger's Big Snit" plays out - a minimum of 3 arms will be required for the start of training camp. If Rodgers does stay, I can't imagine that he'll embrace any kind of mentoring role with Love because, simply, he's not quite the great guy that we would like to believe. So in this scenario, it would be prudent to bring in a veteran QB because you could not rely on Rodgers giving Love even the time of day. A veteran QB could also act as a buffer between Rodgers and Love - which, unfortunately, might be necessary.

The other scenario - if Rodgers is traded and a QB come back as part of the trade. I imagine that the QB will have their hands full learning the LaFleur offence - so little time can be spent with Love. So, once again, another veteran QB makes sense for Love's development.

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HankScorpio's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:59 pm

The really odd part of this hissy fit is that the beat reporters say that Rodgers has been good to Love. None of the crap that Favre pulled with Rodgers. And he played like a MVP, which, of course, he was. I really thought he was handling it like a Pro.

Until Friday, anyways,

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Alberta_Packer's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:31 pm

My interpretation is that Rodgers did not initially view Love as a threat or as an obstacle to his plans - so it was much easier to be cordial under those conditions. However with the apparent development of Love and the Packers unwillingness to re-negotiate Rodger's contract - his 'dark side' was activated. Ergo the draft day media 'bombing'. And heaven help those who stand in his (petty, vindictive and insensitive) way.

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Bure9620's picture

May 04, 2021 at 07:31 pm

My thoughts exactly....If Love was throwing behind guys and at their feet all year in practice and looked lost, Rodgers would be praising him. "He's coming along great! He really attacks it I am proud of him!" This type of praise would scare me because it would indicate Rodgers knows Love can't play. Noticeably, the praise become less and less and not as robust as the season went on. On the McAfee show late in the year he was asked how Love was doing and Rodgers noticeably reserved and careful. "He is doing a nice job"..I think because Rodgers sees the kid can play and has potential....he just needs reps

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Dragon5's picture

May 04, 2021 at 06:01 pm

RODGERS = PIG
LOVE = TIGER

PIG is the secret friend of the TIGER & vice versa

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:11 pm

Not sure why everyone thinks Love needs a veteran QB for mentoring. How many coaches do the Packers have on offense including the QB coach and OC?

Love doesnt need some broken down QB to mentor him he just NEEDS playing time. Trade Rodgers ass and get our future on the field. Love doesnt need his development hindered by a horses ass. At this point do you think Love would listen to any advice Rodger's might give him? I doubt it and I certainly wouldn't.

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Coldworld's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:46 pm

The back up won’t get much attention. If Love is the starter having a vet would help from a practical perspective and also give a source with some ability to add input on the sideline. If Rodgers us sitting out untraded, I think that’s not a bad option.

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Coldworld's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:46 pm

The back up won’t get much attention. If Love is the starter having a vet would help from a practical perspective and also give a source with some ability to add input on the sideline. If Rodgers us sitting out untraded, I think that’s not a bad option.

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HankScorpio's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:26 am

"Not sure why everyone thinks Love needs a veteran QB for mentoring. How many coaches do the Packers have on offense including the QB coach and OC?"

Good point. When Favre left, the Packers drafted Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn to back up Rodgers. Things worked out. However, the draft came and went without adding a 2nd and 7th round pick. So that equivalent is out the window. Now we're talking 2 UDFA guys.

The vet market pickings are rather slim at the moment.

So the options are not particularly great either way.

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greengold's picture

May 04, 2021 at 01:22 pm

Nicely done, Maggie. Your last paragraph is spot on with how I think this will work out, and the landscape changes drastically. No one knows for sure, except those making the decisions. I'm guessing they add a camp arm or two in the meantime here shortly, just so they can run some drill stuff. Probably taking their time making their best choices, and rightly so.

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Lphill's picture

May 04, 2021 at 01:52 pm

The team has a QB coach to teach new QB’s , did Montana teach Young? No , it’s not their job did Joe D teach Mickey how to hit ? No that’s the hitting coaches job etc... Rodgers will be the starter but having an experienced QB on the roster is a must.

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Matt Gonzales's picture

May 04, 2021 at 02:25 pm

Hard to disagree with this. I wouldn't expect a starting position player to actively invest in helping refine the game of someone who could be their eventual replacement (though some definitely do), but there are also tons of veteran players who become more "role" players, who embrace that mentorship, which I think is necessary, as coaches are limited by the CBA in how much time they can spend with players.

If Rodgers stays, I'm guessing the 3rd QB will be a developmental project and Love will be spending lots of solo film room time. If Rodgers goes I'm thinking you'll see a veteran QB as a backup plus a developmental project.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:13 pm

LP, and the Packers have a GM to run the FO and to make draft decisions. He doesnt rely on a QB on what he should do.

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Since'61's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:29 am

Mickey didn’t need anyone to teach him how to hit. He became the most feared hitter in the American League for most of his 18 year career. He produced runs at the most prolific pace of any baseball player since Babe Ruth between 1952 -1963. After that his body began to fail him.

Even then he remained the Yankees best player until his retirement in March 1969. Thanks, Since ‘61

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 05, 2021 at 10:21 am

His dad taught him the game.

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4thandinches's picture

May 04, 2021 at 02:08 pm

I'm not sure the Packers will be able to find a worthwhile veteran qb that wants to come in for cheap and be the 3rd stringer... I'd go with a udfa to toss a few balls to the receivers buried on the depth chart IF the pack are expecting Rodgers back. If they aren't, then yep we need a veteran backup.

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Coldworld's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:49 pm

Well Doug Pederson did pretty well out of it. I think it’s that kind of option.

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nostradanus's picture

May 04, 2021 at 02:10 pm

At 2.4 million they should have kept the Golden Boyle

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packer132's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:09 pm

Packers didn't expect this bombshell from Rodgers and thought they could work out a contract extension. The idea was to have Love get reps in training camp and preseason, with Rodgers starting week #1. They would bring in an UDFA for a camp arm without paying Boyle $2.5 million. Aaron dropped this news on draft day, which was premeditated and he knew that would make the Packers squirm.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

May 04, 2021 at 02:59 pm

Trade AR AND Jordan Love to the Cowboys for Dak, CeeDee lamb, a few D-Lineman, and a bunch of 1st rounders. That's a quarterback room I'd love to see with McCarthy, Aaron and Love.

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stockholder's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:13 pm

Colin Kaepernick. - Par for the Course.

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blondy45's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:43 pm

If Rodgers leaves this summer, we should find a QB on the open market. It does not and probably will not be any Veteran of name recognition. We most definitely will sign an UDFA for depth & spring camp need. We are cash strapped, Rodgers is NOT going to do the Pack any favors. We hopefully will add to the DL in FA, and that will be hard to do.

In the chance Rodgers does return (short term) this fall, Rodgers will start, Love will back him up, we will develop an UDFA, Love will get many more opportunities to play and not just hold the clipboard. You want to see Rodgers pissed? Wait until the Pack decides it is time for LOVE to get some game experience. I hope it will not hurt his feelings too much. HA HA HA. Rodgers is gone by the end of the 2021season at the latest.

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stockholder's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:09 pm

Rodgers will retire after he comes to camp. They then will offer him in trade. Because the NFL is about money now. And not the grid Iron. Gute will have his Cap space. And his glory, for a statue.

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mbpacker's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:21 pm

Where did you buy your crystal ball at? I ordered one via Amazon and it never arrived.

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nostradanus's picture

May 04, 2021 at 09:48 pm

They’re tearing all the statues down, eventually the statue freaks will say Curley was racist.

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MarkinMadison's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:29 pm

More than the QB room, I'm worried about #12's relationship with the WR room if he comes back. Because unless your name is Davante Adams, all of the media world are basically saying, "you're not good enough for him." And instead of throwing water on that fire, #12 lets it leak out that he was upset that they didn't keep Jake Kumerow. I wonder what is going through THOSE guys' minds right now. Players are pretty good about keeping their noses out of each others' contract negotiations, but this case seems a little different to me.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:18 pm

M,
Exactly what I have said a number of times now. There are a number of players on the roster besides Love who should be rather pissed off and dissapointed in Mr. Rodgers.

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HankScorpio's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:31 pm

If I had video editing skillz the scene from Dazed and Confused where Benny jumped on Randall Floyd for considering quitting as QB for his senior year would have Bahk and Rodgers heads super-imposed and be on youtube today.

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packmann's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:31 pm

Good article Maggie. Makes sense to have a buffer (QB) on the team should AR return. And I really hope he returns so we get at least one more good run at a Superbowl! But what if our worst fears become reality and AR doesn't return?

I am concerned about starting JL this year because he's had a tough rookie season with little or no development due to the pandemic. The NFL tends to chew up young QBs and toss them aside. Let's not break our shiny new QB! I'm all for giving JL all the time he needs to become the next Packer legend! This current mess is not his fault either but unfortunately he is the man in the middle. He's probably suffering from PTSD and could use another season to learn while things settle down in Packerland.

Having said that, Bridgewater or Mariota aren't going to win us a SB next year but we would at least be competitive while JL continues to develop.

Hope for the best but plan for the worst!

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Leatherhead's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:34 pm

I would suggest a simple poll.

A..Rodgers never plays for us again.
B..Rodgers will be our starting QB this season.

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blacke00's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:23 pm

LH

I'll the 1st...A!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:23 pm

LH,
You should add a third to the poll.

Does anyone truly want Aaron back after all this BS?

I will start....hell no!

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Leatherhead's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:46 pm

That’d be a separate question.

But yeah, in a second. If we win the Super Bowl, great. If not, we move ahead with the original plan and transition in 2022. That’s why the organization won’t commit more money.

But I doubt it happens.

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Packers0808's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:23 pm

Wanna turn the apple cart upside down and at same time make Rodgers happy trade Love to Lions and get Boyle back! Far fetched but hey wasn't /hasn't since Gute became GM!?

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:25 pm

P,
As much as I like Boyle why would we trade Love and move backwards? Love had better statistics in his first camp (granted not by much) than Boyle in yr 3.

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Packers0808's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:24 pm

Really I thought it was quite obvious!

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CoachDino's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:52 pm

Yes, If AR is gone bring in a veteran to be a back-up to Love
No, Don't bring in a Vet to mentor Love because Ar won't. Let the coaches, by now Ar has this down, the QB coach who is the most familiar with the scheme is the best bet. Even though Ar has proven himself a self-absorbed, petty, insecure hollywood type I still hold out hope he wouldn't take it out on Love.
You're not going to pay a QB veterans min to a guy that isn't even going to be active on game days.

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Johnblood27's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:58 pm

Isnt the QB coach supposed to "coach" and/or "train" and "mentor" developing QB's?

Aren't "players" contracted and paid to "play"?

Where does any contract include mentoring or teaching understudies? That is completely bass-ackwards for a professional pay-for-play league. Especially one with a CBA.

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BuckyBadger's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:04 pm

It is something the press likes to sell and fans eat up. You don't hire players to coach, they play. If the coaches can't do that than you need new coaches.

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Coldworld's picture

May 04, 2021 at 06:02 pm

Nearest I can think of is Doug Pederson and Favre. That wasn’t so much about the niceties of QB play though.

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PeteK's picture

May 04, 2021 at 07:15 pm

Players coach by example.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:48 pm

Have you ever been on a team with a guy like that? Was he the leader of the team? Did you win any games?

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FuDog42's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:20 am

It's in the same clause that allows a QB to 'earn' the right to make GM decisions. jejeje

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BuckyBadger's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:03 pm

If Rodgers is here absolutely not. You need to make sure Love gets all the reps he can get. You aren't going to pay for a vet to be inactive on Sundays and they don't need any extra leadership in that room if Rodgers is there. If #12 is reporting all they need is a camp arm and then someone to stash on the practice squad. Maggy might be to young to remember when Rodgers was the understudy the Packers purposely kept 2 QBs to give Rodgers more reps.

Now if they trade Rodgers they better get a vet back up. After a handful of games they might need to pull the kid who is wildly inaccurate with the football at a lower level college.

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CoachDino's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:27 pm

I'm not saying this whole AR wants out things isn't true and how he's been disrespected for the last time. It's really a sad state of affairs that Arod is that type of person if so. Though the other scenario that I don't hear much, if at all, isn't much better as far as his character.

It's mostly, all about Money.
He just has an MVP year and likely won't ever again, his value (most likely) is as high as it will ever be. He wants to get extended at the highest possible rate. The problem is not that he isn't getting paid as he is and has with previous bonus and current salary. He's not "underpaid"

His problem is the Packers have this timed perfect. They can trade him after this year or next. lose the crazy cap hit, maybe still get good trade value and start fresh with a well groomed potential franchise QB. Arod will be closing in on 40 and most likely looking for top dollar. Let another team deal with that.

Its been reported they did offer an extension he refused. I don't know but I'd guess that the extension was most likely only 2 years and not at top dollar. Best Guess, He is holding out for 3 years at top dollar (40M plus avg salary). What has him so upset that he has gone to this extreme is that the packers are in a position to move on and he doesn't have them trapped. So what's he do, tries to flip the script. Him wanting out now is the worst time for the packers to move on due to cap and Love development. So instead of honoring his commitment he attempts to change the scenarios. there is no doubt that the Packers made moves they normally wouldn't have just to make another run (maybe two) at a SB with AR. Does anyone really believe that whether its this year or in two years that Love can step in and win a SB that year? Arod didn't and look how he turned out. When Arod leaves its a small rebuild thanks to having Love under development.

He isn't scared of Love being better, he is scared that if he plays out this contract, he will be 40 y/o and that there WILL NOT be a long list of teams offering 3 year, top dollar contracts for him. Why, for all the same reasons the Packers went out and grabbed a QB when the opportunity arose.

Ps.. Stop with all the Weapons garbage, that has been proven WRONG. What gives AR the best chance to win a SB,
1) This scheme which they drafted 2 guys specifically for it to help him even more -
2) A better defense. It's ridiculous that the media and a few fans buy into drafting defense hurts AR. No matter how good he is to win a SB you need to hold your opponent to less points than you. Scoring is one component, defense is the other. Its that simple.

Human Behaviour ...

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flackcatcher's picture

May 04, 2021 at 07:53 pm

Great overview CD. Covered the waterfront on Packers via Rodgers. This primal scream from Rodgers is something that the front office should have expected, giving his behavior in the latter half of his career. The irony is so thick you could cut it with a knife. Rodgers must have understood that it is his contract that is the primary driver of the roster decisions Gutekunst is making. And it's his contract that is cutting short this core groups time on the Packers roster. "Human Behavior" indeed...

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FuDog42's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:25 am

Spot on, Coach!

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blondy45's picture

May 05, 2021 at 09:25 am

CD a great well thought out opinion. I totally agree and much enjoyed this post. This is the Green Bay Packers, not Mr. Rodgers neighborhood. The FO is doing a great job under the restraints of large contract numbers and the cap crunch. Do what is best for the Pack, not media ratings, too loyal fans, or ONE too thin skinned self centered aging deva.

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Pack66's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:24 pm

Get Nick F*O*L*E*S....

Rodgers leaves...trade for Foles...start him...and he leads the PACKERS TO THE SB...!!!

YES!

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MarkinMadison's picture

May 04, 2021 at 07:40 pm

If the Packers lose Rodgers, I can't imagine the Bears handing them Nick Foles.

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splitpea1's picture

May 04, 2021 at 08:04 pm

Yes, very unlikely. Love would get every opportunity. But it was an interesting thought. Give Foles an offense to work with (like the Packers have), and he has a reasonable chance to succeed. Provide him with no weapons and saddle him with a porous line and questionable play calling (like in Chicago), and he does not. Getting to the Super Bowl exclusively with Foles, though, seems a little far-fetched.

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Pack66's picture

May 05, 2021 at 10:04 am

The Bears have THREE QBs right now..

They have to do something..
I think they were kind of dumb to sign Andy
Dalton, but they’re the Bears..

I didn’t say they would just “hand Foles to
The packers either
I

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 05, 2021 at 10:36 am

Wait until Foles is cut. He's a CAP casualty.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:33 pm

Wonder what happened to Manny Wilkens? I thought he looked pretty decent on our practise squad back in 2019. He already has experience in LF's offense. Wouldn't he be better than some FA?

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Coldworld's picture

May 04, 2021 at 06:25 pm

Think he’s still a FA. Was never picked up after we released him. Couldn’t hurt as a camp arm at least.

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blacke00's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:53 pm

OH, the Drama!

If I were the Packers (which I am with 1 stock) and after debating this issue for the past week. I've just decided it's time to stop playing Rodgers game, which he is ,of course, doing. He's used a myriad of excuses but really? He's planned this out and he's determined to win. So, make him an offer to extend his contract to play with "no bitching" all the Prima Donna crap ends. If he doesn't take that offer. Then take him up on his offer either trade him for value (no low balling here) if a deal can't be reached he retires and we (the Packers) move on! Play hard ball! Tell him that directly, no more Bullshit! Take your lumps and live to fight another day. .

BTW, Rodger is participating in Classic Narcissistic behavior. Beginning to make Obama and Trump look like pikers.

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optimisticfan's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:32 pm

Maggie,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and backing them up with your rationale. I disagree with taking a vet QB now for a few reasons:

1) The Packers are over the cap. They have no money to sign their drafted players. They are going to have to alter some contracts just to slash another ~ 7 mil to pay the 53. Rodgers and Adams contracts likely are not getting changed to help get under the cap. Money is tight. Rather have a cheap vet DL if possible then vet QB but likely no money for either.

2) We rise and fall with either Rodgers or Love as QB1. Having a vet to coach up Love is less important than just having a semi-capable backup. The QB coaches and MLF can coach up Love if Rodgers retires. In that scenario a QB picked up from another team on cut downs is probably the way to go.

3) If Rodgers gets traded then you get a vet QB as part of the deal

4) If Rodgers and Love stay then problem solved

5) If we bring in a vet QB now, that could destabilize negotiations with Rodgers further. Kerosene meet fire.

Just my perspective. I appreciate you taking the time to put out your logic, I just see it differently.

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mbpacker's picture

May 04, 2021 at 06:05 pm

I am not as worried about a strained relationship between Rodgers and Love. I do think that Aaron knows Love has nothing to do with this mess. After reading everyone's comment there is so much to agree and disagree with., so I abstain rehashing concerns. To me it comes down to Rodgers taking it personally and not business as usual. After a long, storied career and carrying the team to a point, then having an MVP year, It seems Aaron was expecting the red carpet to be rolled out and giving what he wants. Of course none of us know for sure except probably more security with an extension, more guarantees, and more $.
The apparent big mistake was not letting Aaron in on the plans to get a QB, as it turns out moving up to get his future replacement.
I guess my feeling at this point is that I am already exhausted with it all. I don't think Rodgers is showing great leadership that he claims to be a good leader. Think of those young fans watching all this or asking their parents to , please explain Mom and Pop. Is Gute being any different looking out for the Packers future which included giving Rodgers the biggest deal for a QB two years ago. Keeping the core group together in order to make another run at the SB. Being hand-tied by Rodgers contract so , have fun keeping things together Gute and Ball. Maybe Aaron should restructure to free some money up. Is Gute any different than Aaron who aggressively and publicly is campaigning for the Jeopardy job, not bothered by doing what's best for him. By the way, give the job to Ken Jennings IMOP. Gute was doing the same thing, looking out for the Green Bay Packers and the Community that is so tightly connected to their team. Business in the NFL is brutal unless your Aaron Rodgers wanting things his way. I am sure, as with the Farve soap opera, that their will be pro and anti Rodgers camps with some in the middle like me just wanting football not drama.
Think I will go put on Yes's Close To The Edge album and escape for awhile. Dang, this all seems " Close to the Edge".

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mbpacker's picture

May 04, 2021 at 06:00 pm

I am not as worried about a strained relationship between Rodgers and Love. I do think that Aaron knows Love has nothing to do with this mess. After reading everyone's comment there is so much to agree and disagree with., so I abstain rehashing concerns. To me it comes down to Rodgers taking it personally and not business as usual. After a long, storied career and carrying the team to a point, then having an MVP year, It seems Aaron was expecting the red carpet to be rolled out and giving what he wants. Of course none of us know for sure except probably more security with an extension, more guarantees, and more $.
The apparent big mistake was not letting Aaron in on the plans to get a QB, as it turns out moving up to get his future replacement.
I guess my feeling at this point is that I am already exhausted with it all. I don't think Rodgers is showing great leadership that he claims to be a good leader. Think of those young fans watching all this or asking their parents to , please explain Mom and Pop. Is Gute being any different looking out for the Packers future which included giving Rodgers the biggest deal for a QB two years ago. Keeping the core group together in order to make another run at the SB. Being hand-tied by Rodgers contract so , have fun keeping things together Gute and Ball. Maybe Aaron should restructure to free some money up. Is Gute any different than Aaron who aggressively and publicly is campaigning for the Jeopardy job, not bothered by doing what's best for him. By the way, give the job to Ken Jennings IMOP. Gute was doing the same thing, looking out for the Green Bay Packers and the Community that is so tightly connected to their team. Business in the NFL is brutal unless your Aaron Rodgers wanting things his way. I am sure, as with the Farve soap opera, that their will be pro and anti Rodgers camps with some in the middle like me just wanting football not drama.

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MarkinMadison's picture

May 04, 2021 at 07:42 pm

The list of unsigned free agent quarterbacks is uninspiring. Jameis Winston might be the most promising. My daughters will stop speaking to me if they read this post.

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GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

May 04, 2021 at 09:09 pm

Isn’t it the GM’s job to field the best team possible in order to win the SB?? BG failed on that task by the JL pick. Those 2 picks could have made the difference against TB. Anyone who can’t see that doesn’t want to see it.

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Pack66's picture

May 05, 2021 at 10:08 am

I prefer Boyle to Love at QB, actually..

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BrettGB's picture

May 06, 2021 at 07:40 am

Right now? Yeah, probably. He was the back-up last year for a reason.

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bbarryirish's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:39 pm

Time to go full circle kids!!
Get Alex Smith out of retirement. It's now HIS team, super bowl talent, he will be willing to teach Love ( think Mahomes), won't break the bank, one year and done.
DO IT!
Bye bye AR, enjoy hosting game shows. (Don't bring in a substitute host.....:)

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