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Packers Linebacker Barrington Reportedly Out For The Season

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Packers Linebacker Barrington Reportedly Out For The Season

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ChicagoPackerFan12's picture

Sad news for a team that really struggled against the run. And we have Lynch and Charles the next few weeks.

Palmer and more importantly Jake Ryan better be ready to step up. I think Ryan is the starter sooner rather than later.

GO PACK GO

Allan Murphy's picture

Let's hope Jake Ryan plugs that hole quick and with power !!

Idiot Fan's picture

He's not necessarily a powerhouse talent that we're losing, but depth is certainly a concern.

Allan Murphy's picture

Yes he was ok at stopping the run but coverage he sucked i think Jake Ryan will be better after he get's his feet wet just hope it in this next game not 2 or 3 games down the road .

Bearmeat's picture

:(

Bohj's picture

Before everyone freaks out about the situation this puts us in please remember:

1. We will be no worse off than last year with BradHawkJolina.
2. This year's draft had zero inside linebackers where we were drafting in the first round, and I think we got one of the better ones in Jake Ryan. I'm a Mich fan, and this guy was always around the ball.
3. There are no free agents that were available that we could have had over the offseason. And if you think there were, then name them and then tell us what signing them would have done to our cap.
4. Palmer will be serviceable. Especially once he has another hand.
5. Mathews playing inside for most of the year is okay with me. Why restrict that dude to one side of the field.
6. More jumbo packages?
7. Hope this Barrington thing is absolutely a rumor.

Idiot Fan's picture

Yep. I'm generally a stick-with-our-guys kind of person, but the one rumor that was out there that intrigued me was that Mychal Kendricks was available for a second-round pick. If that was true, I would have been up for that.

Green Machine's picture

"2. This year's draft had zero inside linebackers where we were drafting in the first round"

Stephone.
Anthony.

A cb in the first 2 rounds was sensible.
2 cb's in the first 2 rounds was overkill.

Anthony/Rollins would have been just fine.

Drafting Randall was a mistake.

Flow49's picture

I wouldn't have minded a flyer on Bruce Carter for the right price. Emphasis on right price, not sure what he signed for though.

Allan Murphy's picture

Yes Jake seems to be around the ball and i hope he explodes at ILB i think they don't no how good this kid is but we will find out sunday night bet .

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Dawson was available in the 3rd, fwiw. I might guess that TT didn't like something about Dawson (character or field, whatever); perhaps he felt he had enough in Barrington and Palmer, + Ryan, and hoped Bradford, etc. would show something, and that Montgomery was too intriguing to pass on. If TT passed on Dawson due to character, I have to support that decision since I am not there to interview/investigate Dawson.

dschwalm's picture

Just what we need - another "serviceable linebacker" trying to stop the run or cover. Does Hawk still want to return to GB?

DrealynWilliams's picture

Fawk!

Y'all think the middle was soft...I think it's going to get worse.

UNLESS the D-Line gets better and better. It's not impossible, but man, that might be asking for too much with this group. We shall see.

I know 1 thing, the 2-4-5 (mostly for passing) HAS to get more out of the 2 DL whoever is playing.

Raji + Daniels
Raji + Pennel
Daniels + Boyd
Daniels + Pennel
(just thinking about this is nerveracking)

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Raji should not play in the nickel. I'd suggest Daniels and Datone/Peppers, maybe Pennel or Gaston at this point. The 2 DLs in nickel need to have non-stop motors as well.

dschwalm's picture

(and extremely discouraging)

marpag1's picture

Barrington, Schmarrington. It's a cold thing to say, but he's not much of a loss... ordinary against the run and a disaster in coverage. There are plenty of Barringtons out there looking for a job.

It's time to see what Jake Ryan can do.

HankScorpio's picture

Alex Marvez tweeted that the Barrington news was a "big blow". Uh yeah, not so much.

Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer to have the guy the Packers thought was their best ILB outside Matthews. But I just can't say anything but "Next man up" over this news. Maybe throw in some well wishes for Barrington on the road to recovery.

dschwalm's picture

Based on his pre-season work and his practices, I am not looking forward to Jake Ryan inside. At lease Hawk had the smarts. Ryan is too green and unproven to put him in the line of fire in the next two weeks. He would be cannon fodder

Archie's picture

No need to worry - we got the funny one (HAHA) to plug the holes. Ted - stubborn as a mule - Thompson refused to draft a top ILB the last few years despite obvious need. Looks like it will prove to be our achilles heel for this season. Reminds me of years with no S, years with no back-up QB, years with no OL, years with no RB etc.

Would have been worth giving up next year's #1 to get UCLA LB in R2 this year. Instead, he goes to Vikes and we settle for a 4th rounder from Michigan who looks OK but not the impact player we needed. So we move CMIII inside. And now we have a 6th rounder (Palmer) and a rookie 4th rounder (Ryan) to stop the run and cover the short middle. Oh boy!

dschwalm's picture

Excellent points, and well stated, Archie, but we are wasting our breath AND angst. TT is omniscient (some of the time).

Big T's picture

We have gone 5 years w/out a high caliber ILB and have 0 superbowls to show for it. But the TT sheep don't care they are happy with one and done playoff appearances. I say suck it up get one and see what happens. Hey TT, A.J. Hawk may be available...

HankScorpio's picture

Clay Matthews seems like a pretty high caliber ILB from where I sit.

Green Machine's picture

I asked this question before the season started...

Will having your best interior run-stopper, best edge pass rusher, and best coverage linebacker all being the same guy work?

The problem isn't moving CMIII inside (he's really good there), the problem is taking him away from the outside. I have zero faith in Neal or Perry or Mulumba or Elliott.

Palmer/Ryan... yikes.

HankScorpio's picture

In the end, I think the team is better off with more from the OLB group than the ILB group. My faith in the backup OLB group is above zero, maybe not by a lot but still above zero, and my faith in the ILB group is not. Moving Matthews inside is the vehicle to get there.

Not only is the overall strengthened but Matthews is thriving with all the movement. He's been fantastic since it started. He might have had his best half season at the end of 2014. And he sure came up huge on Sunday.

DrealynWilliams's picture

I don't think Clay is the best covering LB on the team. But nevermind that.

I have faith in Elliot. Mulumba hasn't been given a chance this season (yet), but he can't be worse than Neal/Perry.

I agree with the Palmer/Ryan combo causing worry. I don't think either one of them are thumpers.

Tundraboy's picture

No Hawk please.

Green Machine's picture

As painful as it might be to wrap your head around...
Hawk>Palmer or Ryan.

That hurt to type.

We've actually regressed at ilb from last season.
How is that even possible?

HankScorpio's picture

It's a little early to making proclamations they have regressed. Maybe it will play out like that. But maybe not.

I darn sure don't miss AJ Hawk or Brad Jones any.

Tundraboy's picture

Sorry too painful. At least Palmer was in the neighborhood on pass coverage.

dschwalm's picture

Finally, a reasonable comment. What does TT do? Sticks to his philosophy: Draft and Develop - to hell with need. Why don't we just have Matthews play a couple of snaps on the DL too?

Uthy's picture

Mason Foster where you at?

Archie's picture

Outside of CMIII, Teddy boy struggles mightily when picking defensive front 7 types. Look at all the blown picks on front 7. Same was true at S for years. On draft day I shudder when Teddy picks a defensive guy.

dschwalm's picture

You're right, and the jury is still out on Ha-Ha. He missed more tackles last Sunday than Tramon Williams would have missed!

omega's picture

IR for Barrington to make room for datone for now. Cut whoever was scheduled to be cut for datone, and bring in Bradford or Vaughters from PS for depth. Also, Mason Foster is out there and wouldnt cost much more than vet minimum if at all more. Gotta have more than Ryan, Palmer, and Matthews at ILB, right?

Dan Stodola's picture

When would Foster be able to help. Sign him now and maybe 8 wks from now w/ a crash course. No thanks. I'll take my chances w Palmer! Have to ask if foster is so good why the H isn't he on a team NOW?!

Green Machine's picture

They don't need a good player.
They just need a player who's better than Palmer.

Oppy's picture

Palmer has played exactly one game as a ILB. Just how good IS Nate Palmer, Green Machine?

I seem to remember an awful lot of people were sure the Packers were going down the shitter when Brett Favre's train left the station, because the only guy we had to play QB was the inexperienced Aaron Rodgers.

Let's see what we've got in Palmer. He was turning heads in training camp before fracturing his hand. You never know, he just might be pretty good.

dschwalm's picture

.....and those fall off the NFL trees. What a shame. TT may be respected because of his D&D philosophy but I don't know any GM who sticks to that philosophy religiously like TT. Now, I may be dumping on the wrong guy. Maybe McFatty and his hand picked coaches have told TT what we have at ILB in house will be enough to stop the bleeding.
Look at what Denver has on defence in spite of their explosive offence, Defence won the game for them when Peyton had a bad day last Sunday..

omega's picture

Not asking Foster to be Ray Lewis. Neither would Bradford, Vaughters, or even D Bishop. Its called DEPTH. GB is one more ILB injury from having a real big problem.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

The depth (Vaughters and Bradford) can stay on the PS for now. If someone tries to sign either off the PS, I'd guess they'd let TT know and he can then decide whether to promote them.

jh9's picture

No one knows what TT will do, but at this point Palmer hasn't yet proven he can be an effective run-stopping ILB and it's too early to push Ryan on to the front line. The only option I see is to sign Mason Foster and coach-up Ryan.

Mason Foster has the physicalness and versatility we need. He can be a run-stopper and play in coverage. Right now the only LB we have that can do both is Matthews.

HankScorpio's picture

Packers just announced they activated Datone Jones and put Barrington on IR. So if they want another ILB, they'll have to make a cut now.

Their in-house PS call up option is Carl Bradford, so I'm hoping they take a good look at who is on the street, if they decide to go that route.

Dan Stodola's picture

If Foster is soo good wht the H isn't he on someone's, anyone's roster?! Usually means he's Not very good.

Let's see what Palmer can do w this opportunity!

jh9's picture

Let's see... James Jones was cut by both the Raiders and Giants before the Packers signed him. How is that working out?

For those who have an open mind, here is an article by Fox Sports on Mason Foster and his stats: http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/tampa-bay-buccaneers-free-agency-maso...

DrealynWilliams's picture

Before I start, let me say that I don't know ANYTHING about this Foster guy.

I agree with both sides here.

Read this one though:
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6601/mason-foster

To be clear, the agree part is the side of me not wanting to see any of our LBs on the practice team play any Regular Season snaps. Maybe we do need to look outside for ILB help.Maybe we don't. But I do know the help isn't on the Practice Squad.

jh9's picture

It's always good to have more information. But in this Rotoworld article they say Foster is "...a two-down banger..." Yet is 2013 he had 3 interceptions and 7 passes defensed. Those are great coverage stats for a LB and I would be thrilled if we could get a similar production out of any one of our LBs.

DrealynWilliams's picture

I'd like to see some film on him. It's hard to judge a guy off stats when you've (I'm not talking about you) never watched him play.

I'm sure TT will do whatever he feels helps the team this year though. Whatever that might be.

DrealynWilliams's picture

:35

1:57

2:39

His 3 INTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJRosROAfJ8

I can't front. He looks nice. I know all "highlight reels" are supposed to, but he's showing he can move and big play ability.

This one is older - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrco1GG1Chk

What did he do last season???

jh9's picture

Thanks for posting those videos. You're right, highlight videos are hard to judge by but three things do jump out:
1) The dude has ball skills.
2) He has some speed.
3) He has some pop.

Other than Clay Matthews, show me another ILB on the Packers who has an NFL highlight video as good as Foster. He's only 26 and should be in his prime now.

And you're right about another thing. TT and his staff will do their due diligence. If they don't sign Foster, I'm sure they will have a good reason.

Dan Stodola's picture

Difference is Jones KNOWS the Packers offense and can step in immediately and contribute. Was Foster in anyone's training camp? Pre season? That story was dated in march. By the time he learns enough to contribute it'll be wk 8 or so. Its not like he can step in and play immediately.

From the article Dra linked "struggled mightily for the Bucs last season. He's a two-down banger, and not a particularly good one."

Doesn't sound like he's worth it to me. A 2 down ILB and not a particularly good one? I'll pass thanks!

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Rotoworld suggested that James Jones was washed up. I don't know enough about Mason Foster to have an opinion.

dschwalm's picture

TT will never admit that he has to go to the street to secure help. He is an excellent Drafter~~~

Allan Murphy's picture

Can he cover a player like sproles in space no from what i hurd so give Jake Ryan a shot first see what we have .

Tundraboy's picture

Wow. Oh well, we did OK second half of last year. Just another year with ILB issues so what's new? Sure is a struggle all the time somewhere.

FITZCORE1252's picture

Possible blessing in disguise, Sam was JAG, and an absolute liability in space. Throw Ryan In there, get him some OTJ training.

EdsLaces's picture

I am with ya ...pretty decent speed kinda physical...smart. Could be a little soon,but screw it what else we got to lose?

Amanofthenorth's picture

This is more a DL challenge thing. If they don't eat OL's not even Butkus himself will help

Amanofthenorth's picture

This

Amanofthenorth's picture

This is more a DL challenge thing. If they don't eat OL's not even Butkus himself will help

EdsLaces's picture

Clay has such a hybrid role hard to call him a "mlb". So palmer and Jake the snake are what's left. Not to say they both can't end up being good,but it's sooooo risky. That's 2 players that = 2 question marks....

MarkinMadison's picture

First off, the article about Foster is worth a read and definitely complimentary towards Foster. I don't care if he is not all that, the Packers need to take a hard look at the guy and give him a "prove it" contract if he looks better than any of the ILBs currently on the roster.

Why not next man up? Because that only works so much. Any philosophy taken to its extreme becomes crazy, and right now, the ILB position is thin, thin, thin. Isn't the whole point of the 3-4 to set your LBs up to make the plays? Well what do you do with a 3-4 D that has not much at the LB position? And we all know that this team is THAT close to winning a Super Bowl, and this team was in the top 3 for cap space available last I heard.

Is losing Barrington the end of the world? No. Is he JAG? Probably. Problem is, the Packers are running out of JAGs and digging into developmental players. Maybe one of them will be ready for prime time, but with one more injury even that slim hope could be snuffed out. Time to make a move if a move is available.

Green Machine's picture

"Time to make a move if a move is available."
They won't.

dschwalm's picture

I second that because TT will not admit that he left the team vulnerable because of his D&D philosophy.

Tundraboy's picture

Going to get very interesting. Thin is being kind.

Uthy's picture

One thing with Barrington that will be missed is the piss and vinegar running through his veins. Beside Daniels, he was really becoming a vocal leader on this D. Much better than ' Ah heck' Nick Perry and 'Aw Schucks' Datone Jones. We need the tude dude.

MITM's picture

Brandon. Spikes. I dont care how many times hes been arrested, the guy can flatout stop the run. The only thing to factor in is if he is facing a suspension if he signs. We need a thug who brings the wood and has a rap sheet. Desperately.

DrealynWilliams's picture

I was reading along just fine until the last sentence (not taking you serious). I burst out laughing. The "...has a rap sheet" part killed me.

Lphill's picture

Maybe Julious Peppers still has Lance Briggs cell phone number . You never know . One more chance at a ring .

Tundraboy's picture

Good one.

Tundraboy's picture

Could not hurt,options are limited that's for sure.

WKUPackFan's picture

Walter Football has a list of the top 37 FA ILBs as of September 1. Other than Foster and Spikes there's not much out there. Might as well role with Bradford and look for another younger guy.

4thand1's picture

I find it interesting that Ttwins quit posting and green machine appeared out of thin air. Cowpies stink to high heaven.

dschwalm's picture

Whaaaat??

Crackerpacker's picture

If we are talking about bringing someone into the 53 there are 32 practice squads to choose from.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

That is an intriguing idea.

Allan Murphy's picture

Give Jake Ryan a chance first before shopping maybe he's a Brandon Spikes type player and that would be a good thing - the rape sheet lol.

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