Packers GM Brian Gutekunst Has Never Had This Much Ammunition Entering the NFL Draft
By GilMartin
The Green Bay Packers have four of the first 59 picks in the 2022 NFL Draft. Since becoming GM of the Packers in 2018, Brian Gutekunst has never had that many early round picks at his disposal.
One thing we know about Gute is he has a history of both trading up and trading down to get the players he covets in the draft. In three of his first four drafts, he has made a trade in the first round of the draft, sometimes trading up and down in the same year.
In 2018, Gutekunst started with the 14th overall selection but made a trade with the Saints that moved Green Bay back to 27th in the draft but gave the Packers an extra first-round pick in 2019.
But then Gutekunst traded the 27th pick to move up to 18th overall when he saw cornerback Jaire Alexander was still on the board. Alexander developed into a Pro Bowl cornerback for the Packers and is one of the best cover corners in the league today.
The following year, the Packers had two picks in the first round of the draft, originally the 12th and 30th overall selections. With the 12th pick, Gutekunst drafted edge rusher Rashan Gary who has become a quality starter for the team.
Gutekunst traded the 30th overall pick and a fourth rounder to the Seahawks to move up to 21st where he grabbed safety Darnell Savage. Savage has started for the Packers since his rookie year.
In 2020, the Packers started with the 30th overall pick again. Gutekunst traded for the 26th pick and took quarterback Jordan Love who was viewed as a developmental pick behind Aaron Rodgers.
Last year was the first time Gutekunst did not make a deal in the first round and actually used the first round pick he started the first round with. The Packers added cornerback Eric Stokes with the 29th overall pick. Stokes became a starter early in his first season and has showed real promise.
Now the Packers have the 22nd and 28th picks in the first round and the 53rd and 59th overall selections in the second round. This gives Gutekunst a lot of flexibility.
Will he trade one or more picks to acquire a veteran receiver in a trade? Wide receiver is by far the Packers biggest and most urgent need. The team doesn’t have a true WR1 or WR2 on their roster right now and Gutekunst may want to part with one of those four picks to add a veteran who can give the Packers a workable, short-term replacement for Davante Adams.
Gutekunst could also use one of those four early-round picks to trade up in the first round and try to land one particular receiver he really covets. It would be a bit of a gamble as the Packers would almost certainly need that rookie receiver to start and assume a significant role in the offense right away. Could the Packers rely on a rookie to contribute to the offense immediately and how soon could that first-year man earn the trust of Aaron Rodgers?
Gutekunst may also trade one of the four early picks to gain more picks. He did that in 2018 and earned an extra 2019 first rounder. The Packers are facing a situation where they will have a lot of dead cap money on their books once Rodgers does retire. Having more highly-regarded young players gives the Packers a chance to rebuild quickly and without using up as much cap space. All NFL teams covet having star players on entry-level contracts. With a few trades, Gutekunst could give the Packers more inexpensive players to rebuild around once Rodgers decides to hang up his cleats.
Regardless of which route Gutekunst decides to travel, this draft with its multitude of early round picks will be a critical one for the future of the Green Bay Packers. The Rodgers Era is ending soon whether it’s after 2022, 2023 or 2024. Gutekunst must balance the desire to win another Super Bowl with Rodgers as the quarterback and rebuilding the team after the two-time defending NFL MVP retires.
In 10 years when Packers fans look back at the 2022 NFL Draft, they will see it as a turning point in the team’s history. Hopefully, it will be looked at as a draft that helped keep the Pack at or near the league’s elite teams.
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Comments (69)
Ferrari-Driver
April 02, 2022 at 12:58 pm
Gil, I will grant that Gute has the ammunition, but more importantly, he and his scouting team must make those first four shots count. Gute will be drafting in the bottom part of each round, so the work of the scouting department is crucial. If he were drafting first or second, chances are that the Packers will come away with a top notch player are higher than picking 22nd or 28th in the first round. Nevertheless, I expect we will come out of this draft with some solid players who will contribute this year and keep the Packers in contention for the Super Bowl.
PhantomII
April 02, 2022 at 01:23 pm
I would like to see Gute resign Mercillus for the OLB rotation. I would also like to trade JA during the draft for a high #1 pick and draft his rookie replacement for wanting to be highest paid CB talk. #1 draft 22 Olave at WR with a move up. #1 draft 28 Watson. Move up in 2nd RD with 2023 #1 pick and draft WR Pierce. These speedy WR's will help get GB over the hump in the next 3 years and along with JA exit help offset the cap to some degree. The rest of the picks can be used at ILB, DL, OL, S or ST players. I am not opposed to trade JA to a team for a #1 WR but it would not reset the clock for cap reasons. We have already seen how highest paid LT, QB, WR have played out and I'm not interested in seeing guys that will sacrifice Championships for self any longer.
Qoojo
April 02, 2022 at 02:30 pm
Having confidence and wanting to be highest paid cb is not a crime. It's called negotiation for a reason. If they can't work a contract out, then they will do the same as they did to Adams this year.
PhantomII
April 03, 2022 at 11:20 am
That's some confidence where you use crappy form/ technique on trying to tackle a big RB and hurt yourself. Miss, what? 13 games and were not playing like he did in 2020 to begin with. Then say you are the best CB in the league and want to be paid like it. I am also thinking this injury could resurface in 2022. It's not worth it. We're in CAP trouble as it is. He's had 1 great year and a couple good ones.
Qoojo
April 07, 2022 at 12:27 pm
It's a contact sport where it's impossible to be form perfect all the time.
Do you actually read what you write? "He's had 1 great year and a couple good ones"
and how long has he been in the league? Pretty sure the GB medical staff have a more complete view of the injury and its potential lingering possibility. It's just idiotic to even suggest trading him a year early when he is at his cheapest. A complete /facepalm suggestion unless some team is willing to give up a ransom for him.
Limyjoker
April 03, 2022 at 12:03 am
Trade JA are you nuts.
greengold
April 03, 2022 at 12:26 pm
It’s a forward thinking offering. How many here really watched the tough personnel decisions Bill Belichick made on his way to piling up - what? SIX Lombardi Trophies?
Sometimes, it helps to look at situations without ANY bias, plus or minus.
I got some Lagniappe for ya, PhantomII:
22 WR Chris Olave
28 CB Andrew Booth Jr.
53 OT Daniel Faalele
59 TE Jelani Woods
93 WR Velus Jones
132 DT Neil Ferrell
140 RB James Cook
171 OT Zach Tom
My research on this draft is in the way early stages, but, I built this out with just such a scenario in mind. Thought you might dig it.
PhantomII
April 03, 2022 at 06:03 pm
I had to look up the meaning of Lagniappe....LOL! There are some beasts on that list.
KenEllis
April 02, 2022 at 01:26 pm
So AWESOME that the Pack is always focused on the future rather than the upcoming season.
Having the most picks in the NFC is just the ticket to winning a lot more regular season games in future years.
Accumulating draft picks is what great franchises do.
Let loser teams like the Rams, Bucs, and Patriots go ALL IN, the Pack is far better positioned to remain competitive in the NFC North in 2024 and 2025.
greengold
April 02, 2022 at 03:08 pm
KenEllis, while unpopular: No trophies given for most draft picks, nor cap space available…
At the same time, draftees are low cost, which we now need. More picks also allows for maneuverability within draft as an attractive trade partner to crappy teams needing more swings. They usually have early round picks, looking for just such a partner… Since we have ZERO functional cap space, draft picks become even more valuable, right now, in this very moment.
That kind of speaks to what you want. Trades up for game breaking talents. I get it. Gotta hit tho…
I have thoughts to not trade. Deep draft. However, not deep in #1 WR-types. Not deep in starting caliber DTs. Not deep in complete starter Safety talents. One never really knows. They scout, cull data, interview, study, investigate- all for years, spending millions to get it right with staffs loaded with cream of the crop personnel evaluators. We’re just fans. Guessing far more than they are.
Should be interesting to see what Gutekunst does.
Packerfansupreme
April 02, 2022 at 03:02 pm
I agree. The packers play it too safe. Too much emphasis on the future when the time to strike is now. The rams went all in and one. The packers go 75% in and dont get it done. We have no receivers but have all this draft capital. Greeeeeat.
jannesbjornson
April 02, 2022 at 05:37 pm
Indeed bragging rights in the Ice House after your team of Midwest United fails again to pull in the Big One is a shame. If the blue chip is within range pull the trigger going up for them, if they are snatched move into the second for three chances. We will see what this group can pull off trying to replace an All Pro. The 49rs let Jerry go, but Owens was there to take his place. Gutey has to hit on TWO WRs and best to bring in a returner. Special Teams has cost this squad two trips to the SB since 2014. If the FO flops in this draft, Rodgers will move on in '23.
PackEyedOptimist
April 03, 2022 at 06:39 am
Comparing to the Patriots is silly, they are the extreme outlier--trying to recreate them is impossible. As far as the Rams and Bucs, they have indeed been losers over the past 30 years. They turned it around by having many high draft picks, as LOSERS, and then signing a talented QB. We don't have that luxury of a stacked high-pick roster.
The Packers could have easily won several Super Bowls over the past few years, but LUCK has a huge impact on playoff games. One turnover (Jones fumble, blocked punt), ref's call, unlucky bounce/gust of wind, injury (Bakhtiari, Dillon), etc. can end it.
You want a list of the "all-in" teams who LOST? It's half of the NFL.
egbertsouse
April 03, 2022 at 08:08 am
I’m assuming your comments are sarcasm. If not, what have you been smoking ? I want some.
egbertsouse
April 03, 2022 at 08:08 am
I’m assuming your comments are sarcasm. If not, what have you been smoking ? I want some.
WestWi_Packfan
April 02, 2022 at 01:28 pm
Three 13 win seasons in a row, so he must be doing something right, although "the Lombardi" has eluded us lately. If I were Gute, I would think he'd take 2 WR in the first 4 picks of the draft, an OLB and a OT with the other two picks maybe a TE. We should be able to plug some immediate holes with that many high picks. He will hit on at least a couple. Also bring in a Vet FA WR to carry us until the rookies are up to speed and we should be fine. Re-sign a guy like Whitney Mercilus as a backup and pass rushing specialist to go along with your rookie pick and we should be ok at OLB as well. OT will depend mostly on how well Baktiari has recovered and how fast we can get Jenkins back if he is indeed going to be the RT.
TarynsEyes
April 02, 2022 at 01:59 pm
'Three 13 win seasons in a row, so he must be doing something right, although "the Lombardi" has eluded us lately."
This is an unending echo imparted to make all believe that success resides only in the regular-season wins and Division Titles in a Division filled with incompetence. How many Division Trophies would you place on the same shelve as a Lombardi Trophy? The answer should be NONE, because they don't matter or mean anything, except for those who quantify success to them, and use them as an excuse over the incompetent rivals in that Division.
WestWi_Packfan
April 02, 2022 at 03:21 pm
Never said that division championships were "good enough", just that the Packers seem to put out a winning team almost every season under Gute, and that must be an indication of the personnel he is bringing in are above average, which puts his team in a position to have a crack at the SB almost every year. While that alone is not enough, it is certainly better then being in the position that the rest of our division is in, which is losing almost every year.
So its your opinion then we should move on from Gute because Division trophy's aren't enough and that's his fault?
Packerfansupreme
April 02, 2022 at 03:06 pm
I actually like your plan. Gutey! Listen to this dude
jannesbjornson
April 02, 2022 at 05:44 pm
I would not mind them looking to a veteran Edge guy like Ingram. He has a bit more rubber to burn than Mercilus.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
April 02, 2022 at 02:42 pm
Have a lot of confidence in Gutey!
I am concerned about him trading those picks for Lockett at almost 30 years old, or Metcalf who as you recall had a serious neck injury concern coming into the league. A knee injury is one thing but one hit can end a career. Think I'd stay away from Metcalf and select two stud WR's in draft that compliment each other.
greengold
April 03, 2022 at 10:21 am
Yes. Yes. Yes. KNOCK!
There’s all kinds of crazy shit we can & should expect…
Let’s say Olave, Burks, London are gone by #22. I do like planning around scenarios like that in figuring out multiple possibilities & combinations that could still bring GB success.
I’ve had a couple more days to get a read on the lay of the land. Talent truly is deep in all 3 TOP NEEDS for the Packers:
1. WR
2. OT
3. EDGE
And, when I say the talent is deep at all 3 spots, it truly is. I say that knowing we need speed, #1 WR capabilities, starter capabilities at all 3 need positions, really. Best to be prepared for unexpected injury.
Imagine the Packers draft starting out this way:
22 EDGE Boye Mafe
28 LB Devin Lloyd
53 DT Devante Wyatt
There’s so much talent at our need positions, WR being glaringly paramount in need, I would still have ZERO problem with this. I mean, you can’t just pass on talents like Mafe, Lloyd & Wyatt at those spots… for what, a Jahan Dotson? At #22? At #28?
I see near equal, possibly better WR talents that can be had at #59. There. I acknowledge that, but the Packers - by waiting to address WR until pick #59, narrow their margin for error greatly. They’re going to really have to hit it right, get some luck, possibly “over-draft” one or two WRs to secure what they need on their roster, and get “ buy-in” from the guy throwing the football,
I do trust Brian Gutekunst & his Packers Personnel staff to navigate this draft to the best of their abilities, which I believe to be top shelf in quality.
When I start building my own personal mock drafts for the Packers, I like doing it straight,with no trades. My first thought is risk aversion, and that’s why I’ve been pushing a narrative of “ just go up, turn the card in, and get your guys.”
People talk about over-drafting players, which I pay little heed to when it comes to players that are perfect fits for your system and your future. I ALWAYS consider “well, he’s got an R3 grade” for example, to be meaningless, as we’re ALWAYS picking at the end of each given round. If a player is that good of a fit, using this example, and will most likely have an enormous positive impact on your team, take him end of R2.
Case in point:
22 LB Devin Lloyd
28 WR Alec Pierce
53 TE Jelani Woods
59 WR Velus Jones
93 S Kerby Joseph
To me, all of these 5 players are perfect system fits with enormous upside offerings for years to come. No EDGE. No OT. But, this draft appears deep enough to add those positions with quality players with our next 3 picks.
Not saying this is the way it should go if the top is taken off the WR field, but, it would be what I believe would be a very solid plan B going into Day 3. Dynamic talents, all of them.
Maybe things work out this way Day 1 & 2, with players in what might be regarded as more traditional slotting, and a lot of luck:
22 WR Treylon Burks
28 LB Devin Lloyd
53 S Jalen Pitre
59 WR Alec Pierce
93 TE Jelani Woods
Wow, some fierce talents there… with 6 more picks to add OT, EDGE, CB, and more WR depth… all with great talents left to be had.
BirdDogUni
April 03, 2022 at 09:21 am
22. Trevor Penning OT Northern Iowa
28. Kaiir Elam CB Florida
53. Alec Pierce WR Cincinnati
59. Boye Mafe EDGE Minnesota
92. Jalen Tolbert WR South Alabama
132. Isaiah Thomas EDGE Oklahoma
140. Jelani Woods TE Virginia
171. Eyioma Uwazurike DT Iowa State
228. Bo Melton WR Rutgers
249. Jalen Nailor WR Michigan State
258. Quay Holmes RB ETSU
greengold
April 03, 2022 at 10:24 am
Ha! BIRDIE! Yeah, I know I’m preachin’ to at least one choir with that said… you get it though. You’re right. If Penning is still there, he’d be another that we shouldn’t really pass on.
Been seeing a bunch of mocks lately with 4 QBs taken in R1… that will help push some really great talents into our laps. And, if a bunch of the top WR talents are gone? I’ve seen GB’s 22 sitting there with the Top 5 already taken. No problem tagging a great ILB to pair with Campbell, or an incredibly gifted DT, or a solid ballhawk at S…
I’ve also seen some with my own personal top two WRs sitting there for the taking.
We’ll see.
BirdDogUni
April 03, 2022 at 10:09 am
I am all for taking at least 3 WRs in this draft. I don't even care if Gutey shy's away from guys in the first round. I can't speak to their character, but I'm sure the scouts have done their homework, so if they don't draft a guy in the 1st round who might be a character concern in the future or a likely diva, I'm good with that.
Davante had a tough start to his career in GB, but he was never a diva. In the end, he wanted to go to the Raiders, but he was never a problem and got us a 1st and 2nd round pick as he walked out the door. (Those are the types of guys we need to draft this year.)
It all comes back to who is available when we are on the clock. As long as Gutey is patient and doesn't do some stupid shit, we should come out of this draft with a much improved team overall.
greengold
April 03, 2022 at 10:31 am
Totally agree, 100%.
If he trades up for a WR, I’ll understand it - and more than half expect it (~70% is my guess). There might be that big of a consensus in the decision room. Going to keep my mind open as the fluidity of this draft reveals itself.
BirdDogUni
April 03, 2022 at 11:16 am
Most years I have a guy I would love to see Gutey trade up for. Not so much this year.
If I had to pick one guy for Gutey to trade up for, IDK who it would be. I know I hate trading up and wasting valuable draft capital, so I dearly hope Gutey just stays patient and lets the draft come to him as opposed to trying to make something happen that has a 50 percent failure rate.
BirdDogUni
April 03, 2022 at 09:44 am
22. Kaiir Elam CB Florida 6' 1" 191 lbs RAS: Not Available
28. Lewis Cine S Georgia 6' 2" 199 lbs RAS: 9.9
53. Christian Watson WR North Dakota State 6' 4" 208 lbs RAS: 9.96
59. Myjai Sanders EDGE Cincinnati 6' 5" 258 lbs RAS: 9.17
92. Quay Walker LB Georgia 6' 3" 241 lbs RAS: 9.6
132. Charlie Kolar TE Iowa State 6' 6" 252 lbs RAS: 9.77
140. Tyquan Thornton WR Baylor 6' 2" 181 RAS: 9.77
171. Danny Gray WR SMU 5' 11" 186 RAS: 8.91
228. Quay Holmes RB ETSU 6' 2" 225 lbs RAS: Not Available
249. Ryan Van Demark OT Connecticut 6' 5" 304 lbs RAS: 9.49
258. Noah Elliss DT Idaho 6' 4" 346 lbs RAS: Not Availble
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
April 07, 2022 at 02:04 pm
GG,
1,000% in agreement!
If Gutey's first two or three draft choices (3rd with trade up) be guys like Devonte Wyatt (who I really want because him and Clark would cause serious damage together), Devin Lloyd, or Boye Mafe our defense would completely rock! I'd be ecstatic!
There are only two WR's that if available in round 1 I believe Gutey would be derelict in his duties if he didn't draft them straight up. These are Jameson William's and Garrett Wilson. These guys are stars and difference makers. Otherwise, drafting say 3 WR's in round 2 thru 4 would work. There are a whole lot of good WR's to be had in these rounds. Some good ST's receivers as well.
golfpacker1
April 02, 2022 at 02:35 pm
No Trades UP In This Draft. There are so many great options for wide receiver this year. We don't NEED to waste any middle round picks when rounds 3,4,5 will be so strong. Olave is good but so areBurks,Watson,Pickens,Tolbert,Pierce, etc. Why waste a 3rd or two 4ths AGAIN when this draft is loaded, Rounds 3 and 4 are where we can pick TE, S, LB. Trade back from 28 to early second round and we can get another third and 5th or 6th. A 6th round pick would be gravy and we could take LSU placekicker York or best punter in draft Araiza. Making special teams good again. Teams always overpay to get back in 1st round. We are in a perfect spot
to hose someone.
White92
April 02, 2022 at 02:36 pm
Not the year to be picking punters, long snappers, back up QBs, or projects. If the plan is to draft 2 WRs in R1 and not get any vet of significance, they may as well have traded Rodgers for a boatload more picks and gone all in on the rebuild.
Minniman
April 02, 2022 at 02:36 pm
My tip is that Gute will look to trade for an established WR and this will happen either close to or during the draft. If it doesn't happen, then it will be because the asking price was way too steep, not because he didn't want or try to.
I don't think that he will sign a current FA WR until after the draft - when he and MLF know what skillset they are missing.
I see the Packers experimenting with a WR-by-committee approach in lieu of the traditional concept of "WR1, who gets the most targets"....... which hasn't been consistently effective for them in the big games of late.
As things stand, the Packers have solid RB and TE groups. The WR's they have seem to be more middle of the field specialists. The skillets missing are 1) deep threat 2) boundary\out route. Sure, normally these traits qualify a WR is a WR1 type, but I think that there's enough threats elsewhere to not expect s rookie to run these routes perpetually double-teamed (like a true WR1 is).
LLCHESTY
April 02, 2022 at 03:16 pm
I wouldn't call the TE group solid. Tonyan is on a one year deal and Lewis isn't immortal. There's quite few a good athletes and, more importantly, decent blockers in rounds 3-5 this year. I'm really hoping they grab one.
canadapacker
April 02, 2022 at 04:41 pm
TE - is pretty good as long as Deguara continues to develop - Dafney blocks well if they bring him back and Tonyon needs to regain form and should be back for camp. Now should we pick a TE - I would say yes as long as it isnt replacing a Defensive player who can also develop - later round guys who can also play special teams - that is what young TE's do - run down the field on special teams and are big enough to block in the return game.
jannesbjornson
April 02, 2022 at 06:07 pm
Dafney needs to be replaced by a true Fullback for this offense to be effective. Special teams errors were his downfall and his concussions. TE is a position where they should pull in two from this draft, depending on how they feel about Davis. Deguara should be the movement guy running HB sets. Lewis will have to show some level of a pulse. His fumble in the playoff game was a critical error in ball security. He's lost maybe another step? There are Inline guys in this draft to look at, for a change.
Minniman
April 02, 2022 at 06:22 pm
When Tonyan is on the field I'd call them able to execute what MLF wants - solid, without being Kittle\Kelce\Rudolph exceptional. I totally agree that a mid\late round development prospect should be taken.
But as things stand for the 2022 season, this group's experience will take some of the heat off of the rookie WR's.
LLCHESTY
April 03, 2022 at 05:20 am
Jelani Woods going to Marcedes Lewis school for a year! 👍And he played the personal punt protector on STs, I think we might need one of those!
https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1506731074868727813?t=uGEsNrjk...
LLCHESTY
April 03, 2022 at 05:23 am
It won't let me edit the comment but the whole Fennell thread is worth looking at.
BirdDogUni
April 07, 2022 at 02:45 pm
The question is, where do we have to draft Jelani to ensure we don't miss? #59? I don't think he'll make it to our 3rd round pick. (I know it seems we say that about every draft pick, but he is a talent, so someone is going to take a chance on him earlier than we expect I think.)
greengold
April 07, 2022 at 04:47 pm
Yeah. Tough to say. Saw him moving up today. Just hoping for the best. Some dynamic talents to be had at a lot of positions not named QB.
canadapacker
April 02, 2022 at 02:55 pm
I dont think that there is a Claypool or a Chase or a Jefferson or a Lockett. And even if there is - they will be year 2 go to guys. So pick the best and fastest and develop them and gimick them this year ( ie screens, jet sweeps etc) . It takes awhile for them to know what to do when AR wants them to do it ie back shoulder - stop in the hole -keep going and not stop - even Deguara and others are having issues with that. Not being on the same page leads to INT's. First take the best receiver available first then I say take the best guys (either side of the ball ) available at each round ( unless somebody really ranked high falls). Now TT made some bad moves in the higher rounds and at least Gute hasnt but people were screaming at him to taking Gary until this year. We do need to sign a reliable receiver who can get deep - but waiting until after the draft might not be that bad - some of these guys are overpriced right now. We do need to draft in the later rounds guys who can play special teams as well as development guys - our special teams are lacking in that area and have for years now. Finally in re-watching some of the games that we won last year - many through bad play by the offense late in games and lucky plays by the defense - Arizona, Baltimore, Cleveland - all could have been losses and bad coverage by San Fran should have been a loss. Lafleur and AR need to fix that part of the game that they go for the jugular and not depend upon an INT or pass breakup on a 2 point conversion to seal the deal.
LLCHESTY
April 02, 2022 at 03:23 pm
I'd say Josh Jackson was a high round mistake and the 3rd rounders leave much to be desired. But expecting perfection isn't reasonable.
canadapacker
April 02, 2022 at 04:35 pm
no
canadapacker
April 02, 2022 at 04:35 pm
Yes you always have high round mistakes or guys who do not pan out in our system - but we have had many go to other teams and do well as well. My major point is that we have historically been bad at picking guys who also play special teams unlike other teams - such as Ravens. I believe that it is something that is not valued by our scouts - or in our rating of players - plus coaching - the same as tackling by Dbacks - other teams - Ravens, Steelers and others value that - it appears that we dont or we dont help them develop that technique. Yes you can cherry pick the losers and hindsight is 20-20 - but look at other teams draft lists and see if we rank better or worse than them. Havent done that myself - except to look at TT's misses especially in the first round ( Justin Harrell) - and he was not that productive after AR.
jannesbjornson
April 02, 2022 at 06:11 pm
If they keep missing , replace them, just like they do to the players.
Gee
April 02, 2022 at 05:33 pm
Well you are right about expecting perfection isn't reasonable, my only problem in TT last 5-7 drafts was the fourth was his best round. Like he struck gold, but you can't be a team that sits on their hands in other areas, of getting talent and expect to keep the cupboards somewhat filled. When you misfire in the first 3 rounds, its almost impossible and no amount of extra 6th and 7th rounds pick can make up for that.
jannesbjornson
April 02, 2022 at 06:14 pm
You Pay the high picks more, so like any business, you would expect a return on the investment.
BirdDogUni
April 02, 2022 at 03:35 pm
Just when I think I know what Gutey has in store for us he crosses me up. After the season ended, I had convinced myself there was no way he would draft a WR in the 1st round. Now, I'm almost expecting it. AR has never had a 1st round WR picked for him and I think part of the deal in him coming back was Gutey's promise to provide him with decent WR talent, especially after he traded Davante.
What better way to break tendencies than to have a basically whole new WR corps? The only problem is there is no way to know who will be available when we pick and Gutey isn't the type of guy to "settle" for whoever is left. So how does Gutey get to 22 and take whichever WR is on the board if Jordan Davis, Devin Lloyd, or Trevor Penning is still on the board?
Minniman
April 02, 2022 at 06:26 pm
As long as it's not a reach I don't care where the WR's get picked.
The one thing about this group of prospects is that there's no day 1 complete packages (like there were in years past). The "complete packages'' are coming off serious injury and the nest tier guys (like Olave) need to hit the weights room or polish their routes.
LLCHESTY
April 03, 2022 at 05:33 am
That's my biggest worry about Olave. He struggled against press so he's going to see a lot of it in the NFL until he shows he can break it. Or have to be moved to slot where he'd be in a rotation with Cobb and (hopefully) Rodgers. Burks played a ton in the slot but actually had better by the catch numbers when out wide.
stockholder
April 02, 2022 at 03:42 pm
I doubt Gutey Trades up. Unless it's a small jump, for Burks. He then can Gamble on Ojabo Edge Mi.
#22. Treylon Burks. WR. Arkansas
#28. David OJABO. Edge Mich.
#53. Boye Mafe. Edge. Minn.
#59. George Pickens. WR. Georgia
#92. Carson Strong QB. Nevada
#132. Jayden Peevy. DL Texas A& M
#140. Eyioma Uwazuurike DL Iowa State
#171. Tyquan Thornton. WR. Baylor
#228. Javion Heiligh WR Coastal Carolina
#249. Owynnterrio Cole. S Louisville
#258. Antwan Collier. S FL A & M
jannesbjornson
April 02, 2022 at 06:19 pm
So Ojabo is your "jar on the shelf" for 2023? Players are needed for this season.
stockholder
April 02, 2022 at 07:34 pm
Recovery is 6-8 WEEKS. Four to 12 months for football. If the trade talk is true. The packers would trade up for Oregons edge Kayvan. Costing them more. A 1 and 2. (Draft TEk had the trade in their mock.) Ojoba was put in this draft as an alternative. It took Gary 3 years. Mofe is compared to Gary. (By NFL.com) Mofe still needs coaching. This was 2 for the price of one!
Gman1976
April 02, 2022 at 04:26 pm
They first 2 picks really should be WR and OL (and not necessarily in that order). We need to build a wall around our QB to win the big playoff games.
canadapacker
April 02, 2022 at 07:04 pm
Oline is a position of strength both if healthy and if the bring back Njman Hanson and maybe Kelly - unless a great guy really falls - why waste it on guys who cannot play special teams or cannot spot in at another area - ie the next Kittle round 5 - Bobby Wagner Round 2
Minniman
April 02, 2022 at 08:17 pm
Close - I think that they are a RT away from being the fortresses of 2015/2016. This keeps Nijman as the swing tackle\backup (which are inevitably needed).
If BPA is a Tackle, then I don't have an issue with then taking one at #22.
LLCHESTY
April 03, 2022 at 05:39 am
Here's what Gutey said about Nijman at the owners meeting:
"With Yosh, first of all, you’ve got to give him a lot of credit through the last three years just his work ethic and his consistency working,” Gutekunst told reporters at the NFL’s spring meetings in Palm Beach, Fla., on Monday.
“I think he just needed an opportunity. It’s probably as much my fault as anybody. We kept bringing in veteran guys at tackle to shore up kind of that third tackle spot, which never really gave him the opportunity. Once he got the opportunity, he certainly performed exceptionally well. So, very proud of him and his work ethic and what he accomplished when he was given the opportunity.”
Maybe that's just GM speak but I don't expect a OT taken in the first round. I'd be fine waiting for a day 3 swing guy. Once Jenkins is back they're fine at OT.
PhantomII
April 02, 2022 at 07:57 pm
I agree Gman but, unfortunately AR has decided to build his own wall with 100 dollar bills. I look forward to the day we don't need a TE blocking every snap.
Thegreatreynoldo
April 02, 2022 at 07:33 pm
Wow. Xavien Howard signs for $25M AAV Per AGENT. We'll see what that translates into. Still, waiting doesn't usually help.
NE traded a 2023 3rd rounder to get DeVonte Parker and a 2022 5th rounder. NE expects to get a 3rd round comp pick in 2023. That's dirt cheap, if accurate. Story per Mike Reiss.
BirdDogUni
April 02, 2022 at 08:47 pm
You have to figure Gutey had a conversation with Miami about Parker, but maybe not? Maybe they weren't interested in Parker? He's been with a loser for so long, they might not want to bring in losers. ; )
We don't know what Gutey has planned, but you know he's going to do something at WR. Can't wait to find out what though...
stockholder
April 02, 2022 at 09:22 pm
They are rumored to be interested in Fuller. He was suspended for a med.
Thegreatreynoldo
April 03, 2022 at 04:57 am
This is a trade made not just within the same conference but also within the same division. NE was 10-7 and Miami was 9-8 in the AFC East.
Have to figure Miami would have taken a tad less from GB. As it is, NE gets Parker and a fifth this year and Miami gets a comp third rounder in 2023.
That is dirt cheap. Not sure what Gute is thinking, but I hope he has something up his sleeve.
LLCHESTY
April 03, 2022 at 05:41 am
I read that it is in addition to money still owed so it works out to a 5yr/$90 million dollar deal. I think the agent is fibbing a bit.
Dzehren
April 02, 2022 at 09:49 pm
GB has a solid history of second round WR's. Take DL, Safety or OLB in round 1 picks. Trade up from the second round and grab a WR around pick 38 similar to other second round picks like Jordy, Jennings, Davante, Cobb etc.
Start looking at TE, OL & another WR & LB in the middle rounds.
Limyjoker
April 03, 2022 at 12:47 am
In Gutey I trust. IMO the packers need to draft 2 WR and at least 1 TE in the first 3 rounds of the draft. We need youth at the positions. If they decide to trade for a WR it better be DK Metcalf. Nothing against Lockett, DK is way younger. I understand that we would need to sign him to an extension but it would not be at the price that Adams or Hill are at. 4 years at 22-23 million per year would be a good start. On to the defense. Jaire Alexander needs to be resigned. Its difficult enough to find a good corner (i.e. Jackson, king). Even though resigning king to the veteran minimum to be the 4th corner would be good IMO. I want the packers to take a WR with their first pick of the draft but if Jordan Davis is available that would be an amazing pick. The packers have kept the defense preatty much the same. If they add through the draft that is fine with me. Nakobe Dean or Daxton Hill would be great picks as well. I think everyone knows that Gutey needs to draft offense this year. Looks like the draft will be entertaining as usual. Go Pack Go.
LLCHESTY
April 03, 2022 at 05:49 am
I'd rather have Wyatt than Davis. Davis isn't the pass rusher Wyatt is and Wyatt is no slouch at defending the run. I wouldn't be surprised if they draft Winfrey. He's a better pass rusher than Wyatt and is over two years younger. If Packer draft trends hold up they'll want those two years.
PackEyedOptimist
April 03, 2022 at 05:54 am
There are two very different conversations going on in this thread and in most draft threads: "Who would I pick if I was GM" and "Who do I think BG will pick?" For me, those results are pretty different, though I have some hope that BG might trade for the additional 2023 1st round pick, which I think is the smartest move.
Consider: "All in" isn't really a thing; every GM wants to win now AND in the future, and the cap limits any true "all-in" maneuvering. Green Bay lost ONE starting receiver. Davante needs to be replaced, but burning 2 of 4 high picks if they aren't both BPAs is a terrible strategy. A great ILB to replace Barnes or a great nickel S/CB will be JUST as likely to help the Packers win this year as a second high pick at WR. There is almost NO possibility that the Packers would start two rookies at WR.
The real question, that none of us know the answer to, is "How much faith do BG/MLF have in Jordan Love as Rodgers successor?" That steers everything right now, because this could easily be Rodgers last year. If they think Love is ready, get a WR and three BPAs--ideally from S/OT/ILB/ED...maybe TE/CB. If they DON'T have confidence in Love, trade for a #1 next year. That gives them ammo to go after a successor QB next year, if it looks needed. In the meantime, the Packers STILL have an extra #2 this year, and the trade should gain a move up in another round (maybe switching our #4 for their #2 or whatever). That is STILL a very good set of picks, and we'd still have a #1 for a WR plus two #2s for the other positions or second WR.
Johnblood27
April 03, 2022 at 08:18 am
If GB follows strategy like this they will already have a top 10 pick in hand...
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