Packers: 38 Seahawks: 10 The Good, Bad and Ugly

Aaron Rodgers, Damarious Randall and the Secondary, Clay Matthews, Datone Jones, Dominating Turnover Battle, Josh McCall

Injuries, Third-Down Efficiency

Vikings and Lions Winning, James Starks

 

 

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Lphill's picture

December 11, 2016 at 08:37 pm

The good Christain Ringo running on field late and bull rushing the Seattle O line , maybe that should be a designed play. I think Michael belongs in the good, some nice runs , ok a missed play but he is still learning.

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Razer's picture

December 12, 2016 at 07:52 am

Christian Ringo charging into the play was one of my highlights. Driving the Seattle Oline back into Wilson was too funny.

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marpag1's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:11 am

I would definitely NOT include Christine Michael in the good. At 10 carries for 36 yards, plus two awful busted plays, what is there to like?

The knock against Michael in Seattle is that he never learned the playbook. Not only does that waste a down, but it could easily get Rodgers killed.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:21 am

You can't blame Michael for not knowing the Packers playbook in 3 weeks.

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marpag1's picture

December 12, 2016 at 09:16 am

What you say is true only if you assume that they were expecting him to know the ENTIRE playbook by this time. That's very highly doubtful.

I think we can take it for granted that there were only a handful of calls that were truly "in play" when Michael was in the game, and I seriously doubt that ARod would actually hand the ball to the new guy unless they were running one of those plays. Rodgers clearly expected that Michael should know the play. On the second botched assignment, you could see that the O-line was pissed about it, too.

Michael was in Seattle a lot longer than 3 weeks, and the story is that they let him go largely because of blown assignments.

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GBFaninCA's picture

December 12, 2016 at 09:17 am

I agree with not blaming him, but he definitely did not deserve to be in the good category, as was being suggested

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jlc1's picture

December 12, 2016 at 11:46 am

Ripkowski and Kerrigan were in the backfield for another clearly busted play and they definitely should know the whole playbook. Maybe this has to do with MM adding some plays given the new personnel?

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GVPacker's picture

December 11, 2016 at 08:44 pm

The Good the Packers embarrassing an opponent on National TV with a blow out win. It's been a while and I almost forgot how it feels but now I remember, it's very satisfying.

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Tundraboy's picture

December 12, 2016 at 06:33 am

And Seattle no less!!!!!! Have a Happy Monday everyone.

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Tundraboy's picture

December 11, 2016 at 08:51 pm

Good: The Team
Bad: Yet more injuries
Ugly: Officiating

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 11, 2016 at 08:54 pm

Good: Rodgers, Montgomery, Adams, Nelson, Cobb, OL, DL, Burnett, Randall, Rollins

Bad: injuries.. Lions won.

Ugly: Seahawks.

There was so much good about this game. The injuries were the biggest negative about the game.

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The TKstinator's picture

December 11, 2016 at 08:54 pm

A great reminder as to why they actually PLAY these games. Loved it.

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Lphill's picture

December 11, 2016 at 09:11 pm

Just FYI , Le veion Bell 6 '1 220, Ty Montgomery 6 '1 218 , just saying.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 11, 2016 at 09:43 pm

If anyone questions whether or not Montgomery is a RB at this point is in denial.
And he is not just a gimmick RB. I'm pretty sure his goal line TD run ended those questions.

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NickPerry's picture

December 12, 2016 at 06:02 am

RC....Just think if McCarthy actually completely committed to Montgomery. It's not just his goal line TD, it's how quickly he's able to get around the edge. He see's a hole and hits it, no dancing no nothing, just hits the hole. I feel for Starks who's just fallen like a rock, but NOW is the time to commit and play the best players on your team. That's Montgomery and a dose of Michaels.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 12, 2016 at 07:27 am

Completely agree NIck.

Montgomery had 9 rushes in this game. What would he have done if he got 15-16?
The way he can get throw a hole that is tiny. The way can explode through the hole. The way he can take a ball to the outside and get to the corner is unlike any RB the Packers have had in quite some time.

His stiff arm of the safety that put the Safety on the ground was great to see.
Most of his runs to are not tosses or trickery types of runs. They are handoffs up the middle or off tackle. Nothing special.

Also his ability as a receiver out of the backfield is a huge key to the offense. He adds so much value that way. When they used to spread Starks or Lacy out wide, they were essentially a non factor. When they spread Montgomery out, he is a legit weapon out there.

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Savage57's picture

December 12, 2016 at 05:21 am

And, a little closer to home, Ahman Green, Packers all-time leading rusher, 6'1" and 220 lbs.

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zoellner25's picture

December 11, 2016 at 09:18 pm

G: whooping Pete Carroll..... Finally
B: Fox in Colorado switching to NO/Tampa in 4th quarter
U: injury situation in December

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NickPerry's picture

December 12, 2016 at 06:04 am

Yesterday they gave a stat that the Packers were the only team to beat Carroll by 10 points which was last season. I'm pretty sure I heard that correct in which case make that...TWO TIMES!!

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Tundraboy's picture

December 12, 2016 at 06:38 am

Double yay!

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Razer's picture

December 12, 2016 at 07:55 am

Viewers in Ontario Canada also got switched to the New Orleans game. I could handle it until I saw N.O. handing the win to Tampa. Dirty double-cross

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Ibleedgreenmore's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:26 am

They did the same to me in Missouri so I got on line and watched the remainder of the game.

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Idiot Fan's picture

December 11, 2016 at 09:22 pm

MM takes so much flack here, he definitely deserves a shout-out. The team was ready to play, and he called a great game.

Also, the oline was amazing.

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:16 am

I've said it before: if this team wins out and makes the playoffs, this might go down as his second best coaching job...behind 2010, of course. If this team wins out and does not make the playoffs (unlikely given Detroit's schedule, thanks to NYG's win last night)?

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Bearmeat's picture

December 11, 2016 at 09:37 pm

G: The Packers, Fans like RC and 61 who never give up.
B: Fans like me, NP and Samson who do give up.
U: The Seahawks.

Yep. I own it.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 11, 2016 at 09:45 pm

Never give up!

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 11, 2016 at 09:47 pm

They won one game and will need a lot of help to get into the playoffs. So I wouldn't call the criticisms of the last few weeks totally misguided.

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Dzehren's picture

December 11, 2016 at 10:07 pm

We had 5 or 6 UDFA's playing in the secondary. Now we have Randall, Rollins , Hyde back in.

We also have some other recent draft picks from 15' 16' contributing- Lowry- fackrell- Clark Montgomery- Rollins- Randall-
That's the difference - and #12 of course

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 12, 2016 at 07:41 am

There was a lot more problems with the team than just the secondary.

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:18 am

Given the Giants win over Dallas last night, the Lions road just got that much harder. The Packers are as close to being in control of their own playoff destiny as they can get without actually being in control of their own playoff destiny.

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Spock's picture

December 11, 2016 at 09:53 pm

Bearmeat,
Nice of you to own up to doubts, but, hey, this season has given even the most ardent fan some pause. I will ALWAYS pick the Packers as I was born and raised in Wisconsin and the Pack is in my blood, but, I must admit that parts of this season were a trial for me. It's not easy in Tucson (moved here eleven years ago) wearing my Packers gear when they are not doing well. Kudos to you for applauding RC and 'Since 61" (although I've got 7 years on him) since this IS a fan site and sometimes people lose sight of the fact that rooting for the team is, perhaps, more important than whether the team wins or loses. I enjoy the fact that I am an "NFL owner" since 1996, even though I know it doesn't really mean much in reality. A great win and I thoroughly enjoyed the crappy coverage I got from FOX here (missed the beginning and end of the game, damn you, FOX) while the game was on. Hey, NOW IT GETS INTERESTING!!!

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Since'61's picture

December 11, 2016 at 10:01 pm

Thanks Bearmeat. Too many years invested not to believe. Since '61

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:19 am

It's not about success, it's about the "G". For some people, there's no bandwagon to jump off.

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aron_roger's picture

December 11, 2016 at 10:13 pm

Good on you for saying so Bearmeat!
It's been a trying season, but we've been blessed for a long time as Pack fans. If this is a bad year, we've really got little to complain about in the big picture of fandom.

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NickPerry's picture

December 11, 2016 at 10:14 pm

I'm right here "Owning It" with you Bearmeat. I was just think I needed to give a shout out to Since '61 and especially RC but you beat me to it. Really thinking about all of you who didn't give up.

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EdsLaces's picture

December 11, 2016 at 10:15 pm

You could put me on negative Nancy list as well..

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Bearmeat's picture

December 11, 2016 at 10:42 pm

I thought about that Eds. haha.

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Razer's picture

December 12, 2016 at 06:48 am

Put me down for some pie as well. Winning big was one thing but winning with the depleted cast of characters was the shocking part. Goes to show what I know about this team.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 11, 2016 at 09:44 pm

Who's Josh McCall?

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

December 11, 2016 at 11:03 pm

"That's one small step for man...and congratulations Josh McCall."

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Dzehren's picture

December 11, 2016 at 09:54 pm

The UGLY:
Pete Carroll constantly & excitingly chewing gum on the sidelines & the legion of BOOM.

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December 12, 2016 at 07:43 am

If that was a snaphoot of how they play without Thomas then they are gonna be the "Legion of Poot" for the rest of the season.

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:20 am

Their remaining games are mostly at home against soft opponents. They'll bounce back and win the #2 seed.

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:21 am

It's a wonder he hasn't worn those teeth down to nubs by now.

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Since'61's picture

December 11, 2016 at 09:55 pm

The good: A. Rodgers, playing brilliantly through injuries. Monty, Adams, OL, Burnett, Randall, Lowry, entire D.
The Bad: Officiating
The Ugly: Starks

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stockholder's picture

December 11, 2016 at 10:14 pm

The Good, MM, Wrs, Secondary for the heads up INts. The Bad. Seahawks Wrs, Didn't they remind you of somebody? Ugly; officials,

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CJ Bauckham's picture

December 11, 2016 at 10:18 pm

Cb #35 on Seattle... ugly. Or, good. Brutal day for him though

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4thand1's picture

December 11, 2016 at 10:29 pm

WTF, where was his team all year?

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Razer's picture

December 12, 2016 at 06:49 am

Ha, ha - maybe there is a Santa after all.

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Mojo's picture

December 11, 2016 at 11:02 pm

The good - as in good luck with the deflections off Seattle receivers intercepted by our secondary. They win the Jeff Janis off your facemask hand-eye coordination award.

The bad - both the Lions and Minny barely winning against putrid opponents. I think NYG beating Dallas tonight helps in the fight for the division (Dallas might have to play hard against Detroit after all, but we lose ground to NY for a wildcard.

The ugly - Arods wobbly legs. He had a hard time walking off the field. A real concern going forward.

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:23 am

The WC is such a convoluted mess. The Packers chances have been best by winning the division all along. Just keep plugging away and control what you can control...1-0 this week. On to Chicago.

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Kyle Graham's picture

December 11, 2016 at 11:27 pm

What a game. Almost forgot what it was like to totally dominate an opponent. By the way big win tonight for the Giants. This makes the lions games against NyG and Dallas mean something for Dallas and NY. That's huge. The win today was huge!

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:23 am

I would not be surprised if the Lions have won their last game of 2016.

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Norm's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:33 pm

Ha ha, that could be interpreted two ways: their "last game of 2016" is against the Packers, let's hope they haven't won that one!

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Dzehren's picture

December 11, 2016 at 11:36 pm

The bad-
Something is off with Starks. He is just aweful. This is not his year. Play Mony + MICHAEL and plug in RIP on blocking downs short yardage goaline & special teams. sit Starks

good-
Janis reverse 2 weeks in a row for 2 big plays.

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December 12, 2016 at 05:36 am

The good: O and D, Coaching staff actually being prepared for the game, Play calling

The bad: Useless MM challenge, trotting Starks out there, Christine Michael's knowledge of play calls.

The ugly: The legion of Boom and Cow's predictions of Gloom. The 'most energetic NFL HC' which I would re-label 'the whiniest NFL coach of all time'. Seattle WRs - the most pedestrian group of pass catchers I've ever seen. Seattle OL - looks like a random assembly of common bar drunks.

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keeley2's picture

December 12, 2016 at 07:28 am

Anyone watch the end of the Lions game? Chicago would have certainly won that game save for back to back holding calls on the Bears and then a non-call on a blatant pass interference by the Lions. I'm normally not a conspiracy theorist, but this one had a very funny smell to it.

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Razer's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:08 am

Yeah, that was a tragedy and a sham. As they say, you could find a holding call on almost every play. The officials were playing to the hometown crowd. I can't believe that I was cheering for the Bears. They crapped the bed as only the Bears can. I do like this QB and he has been effective against the Packers. I wouldn't take them lightly.

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December 12, 2016 at 08:17 am

I didn't watch a lot of that game, but there were so many bad calls/non calls in that game when I did watch. On one of the Lions first drives where Stafford had a huge 3rd down throw. They called holding on the Bears, where in fact there was holding against the Lions.

I don't know how they didn't call that pass interference.

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dobber's picture

December 12, 2016 at 08:25 am

Watching the early parts of that game, the Lions weren't getting many calls. In the end, the refs evened them out.

The bottom line is that the Lions, even though they have 9 wins, are an average to above average football team. They're going to finish the season 9-7 and wonder where the playoffs went.

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GBFaninCA's picture

December 12, 2016 at 09:23 am

Ugly: Bringing up Bostick during the onside kick, I still get nightmares

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al bundy's picture

December 12, 2016 at 12:42 pm

Good: tied, the pass rush and pass protection, pass defense. May have been the best all year

Bad: Hopefully no more long lasting injuries

Ugly: Seattle game play. They never were in this thing. Unfortunately with their easy schedule remaining and tops in their division, some poor sucker has to go there to play. And probably after they get a bye week too.

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lambeauleap's picture

December 12, 2016 at 05:49 pm

Good:

The offense. I finally felt like they were on the same page and things were clicking. I do think Aaron Rodgers injuries have actually helped him play better. It's as if his immobility has helped his fundamentals. He was making passes he was making in 2014 and rarely was making the last year and a half. Plus I thought the offense just seemed to have more creativity to it.

Ty Montgomery as a RB was a genius move. Whoever came up with that idea needs a raise. James Starks has been a disappointment.

Adams. I stand corrected for ever wanting him cut. Patience paid off!

Bad:

Lions, Vikings, and Giants won

Ugly

Seattle's dirty play

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