Packers 31 Chiefs 24: Game Balls & Lame Calls

The Green Bay Packers hung in after watching the Kansas City Chiefs come back from a 14-0 deficit and gritted out a tough road win at Arrowhead Stadium.

The Packers offense and defense were as up and down as a yo-yo throughout the night but when it mattered most, they made the plays and added another performance to silence the doubters.

The 7-1 Packers will hit the road again next week to face the Los Angeles Chargers.  On to the night's good and bad.

Game Balls

Aaron Jones

Jones accounted for 226 yards and two touchdowns on the night.  He had 159 yards receiving and both scores came via the pass.  Jones's last catch in the fourth quarter sealed the win and allowed the Packers to kneel out the clock. 

The Matt LaFleur offense is predicated on involving the running backs and all Jones did in this game was post a game high with seven catches.

Jones averaged over five yards-per-carry and was able to take advantage of a leaky Chiefs run defense.

Between this performance and the Dallas game, Jones has proven to be a huge difference maker and the offense is world's better with him on the field.

Za'Darius Smith

Two sacks and three hits on the quarterback.  The sack is back - for the Pack.  After getting none last week, the defense needed a spark and Z was happy to oblige.

I'm not sure if it's a series of ailments Smith is dealing with or many individual injuries, but Smith seems to come out of every game, only to return and make big plays.  He's probably looking forward to the bye week.

Chandon Sullivan

Sometimes, game balls go out for a single moment and Sullivan had just that in this game.  His big third down pass break up late in the fourth quarter was a massive stop.  Kansas City decided to punt and the Packers never gave the ball back.

Aaron Rodgers

Rodgers had another nice outing, finishing with a passer rating of 129.0 on the back of 305 passing yards and three touchdowns.  He added in 29 rushing yards.

The late touchdown pass to Jamaal Williams was nothing short of phenomenal and I'm still not sure that ball wasn't intended to be a throwaway.

Rodgers is having a lot of fun this season.  What a difference a year makes.

Jamaal Williams

One rushing touchdown, one receiving and the grab on the heave by Rodgers.  Add in some nifty dance moves and what's not to love about the "two" in the one-two punch in the backfield.

Lame Calls

Tackling

Why is this still an issue on the defense, at times?  The most fundamental thing that befuddles Packers defenders way more often than it should.  It's hard to argue with winning but being a sound tackling defense is a focus and an attitude.  The Packers need more of both.

Special Teams

95 kick return yards given up and a punt that should have been fielded at the 15 yard line that was left to fall and bounce to the two-yard line.

It looked better in the second half but the return team has had more than their share of long returns given up this season.  Much like tackling, special teams needs an infusion of focus and attitude.

It may be time to look elsewhere at punt return.  Darrius Shepherd doesn't bring the consistency you typically want to see and as the weather turns, ball security and good decision-making become more important.

As good as he's been until now, punter JK Scott didn't have his best game, averaging just 35.3 yards.

Zone Coverage

This defense has the horses to man up and be more aggressive when needed.  Mike Pettine opted to play zone coverage to keep Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins and Travis Kelce in check.  The receivers ate up yards upon yards in the second quarter and the Packers defense had no answer.  

Credit Kansas City for finding holes in the coverage but some additional and more effective pressure is going to be needed.  Defensive coordinator Mike Pettine hopefully gets more comfortable taking some well-timed chances to generate a rush and help out the back end once in awhile.

 

Others to mention

  • Rough night for the pass blocking but backup tackle Alex Light held up well in relief of David Bakhtiari (one snap) and Bryan Bulaga.  Not sure if Bulaga is going to miss time and Light is going to have to ball out if called upon
  • Blake Martinez was put in a really bad spot having to cover anyone, let alone Travis Kelce.  Horrible call and way too easy for opposing offenses.  He needs to shed that club as soon as he can
  • Between Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Tyler Lancaster and Montravious Adams: six tackles and one pass defensed.  Wanted: more
  • Good to have Savage back
  • Lazard with five grabs and more mojo.  Packers may have found a player.  Add in Kumerow's few nice grabs and it's easy to see why Packers didn't want to give up a ton for a pass catcher
  • That said, they have to find a way to get MVS more involved

 

 

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Jason is a freelance writer on staff since 2012 and also co-hosts Cheesehead TV Live, Pulse of the Pack and Pack A Day podcasts.  You can follow him on Twitter here

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Cubbygold's picture

October 28, 2019 at 06:06 am

Game ball to the coaching at the end. Pinned deep, game on the line... Feels like in recent years we would have seen at least one burned play where rodgers just chucks it 25 yards downfield. Not last night. Run, run, run... The win was there for the taking and the run game got it for them.

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sonomaca's picture

October 28, 2019 at 03:32 pm

Lombardi would have been proud.

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sonomaca's picture

October 28, 2019 at 03:32 pm

Lombardi would have been proud.

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Cubbygold's picture

October 28, 2019 at 06:15 am

Lame call to rodgers for scrambling like its 2017 and KC taking a late cheap shot. Rodgers is a competitor, so he'll never change, but he has to understand that we're competing for a superbowl. He puts himself at risk in a way that Brady refuses to, he needs to get better in this area.

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MikeDV34's picture

October 28, 2019 at 07:36 am

Last I checked, he got first downs when he ran.

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Cubbygold's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:08 am

sure. Is that worth risking the season? no

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:10 am

Oh here we go again. He got the first down and took a late hit. He could've taken a late hit at any point in the game and the result would've been the same.

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Cubbygold's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:23 am

Yup, cheap shots aren't preventable. Not the play I'm concerned with. Running down the middle of the field and diving head first is.

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dobber's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:08 am

Let's not compare ARod to Brady in this way. They're just different players, and breaking the pocket and playing on the run was never part of Brady's game...it's part of what makes #12 great. You're right: at some point, ARod is going to be a different player and need to play differently. Without those runs tonight, that W would have been much harder to get.

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Cubbygold's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:17 am

12 scrambles to make big plays, that's part of who he is and what makes him great. There's a difference between doing that, and getting sacked 8.5 seconds after the snap. Or diving head first on a run.

Brady is a different player, but he hasn't had season ending injuries that last two years for a reason. Rodgers gets hurt and the season is over, again. No doubt about it. My only point is that Rodgers needs to better understand that line in the sand between getting a regular season win and putting the season on the line.

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:17 am

Rodgers had his collarbone broken on a sack back in 2013, that was a fluke. He had his collarbone broken on a late hit in 2017, and a 300 pound lineman fell on his knee as his pocket collapsed last year. You can't prevent injuries your entire career and most of his notable ones weren't from doing anything out of the ordinary.

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packrulz's picture

October 28, 2019 at 06:19 am

Remarkable what a difference a coaching change makes! I often wonder why Mike McCarthy didn't use the running backs more. I also wonder how many Super Bowls we could've won.

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mnklitzke's picture

October 28, 2019 at 07:27 am

Couldn't agree more. You think MM watches and scratches his head in amazement?

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PeteK's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:24 am

Look up the names Jackson, Starks ,Lacy, and Montgomery . They all had over 40 receptions in a season.

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LambeauPlain's picture

October 29, 2019 at 07:45 am

Agree....and MMs stubborn refusal to replace Capers also kept the Pack from getting another Lombardi or two or three.

Wade Philips was available a few times too as Capers predictable, soft, prevent Ds continued to lose games for the Packers. Imagine what Philips could have done in Green Bay.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 28, 2019 at 06:27 am

" Mike Pettine opted to play zone coverage to keep Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins and Travis Kelce in check. The receivers ate up yards upon yards in the second quarter and the Packers defense had no answer. "

Looked like they started out mostly in man to me and got ate up in the 2nd quarter. Then started playing more zone, which while not ideal at least started to contian Hill and Kelce. By the end of the game they where mostly in zone which obviously didn't stop the Chiefs but did slow them enough to let the offense win the game.

Without rewatching in all 22 I would say that if they had stayed in man they would have lost.

They held the Chiefs to 24. I'm happy with that even if the method is hard to watch.

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flackcatcher's picture

October 28, 2019 at 06:45 am

Not pretty, but the right call. Chiefs did most of their damage in YAC. Shifting to cover 2 and 1 high with a combo of quarters and straight zone reduced the ability for a breakaway touchdown like Jones had on the short screen which broke the game open. Packers held a team on their turf to 17 points and a give me call that led to another 7 that could have gone the other way. Eighth game into a 16 game season. Not sure what any fan can ask at this point but victory.

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dobber's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:06 am

The Chiefs did a really nice job of getting their playmakers the ball in space, especially through the 2nd and 3rd quarters. The team speed and athleticism there is outstanding. It was about like watching OSU v. Bucky on Saturday in that regard.

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flackcatcher's picture

October 28, 2019 at 07:39 pm

As you say ' it's not where you play them, but when'. (UGH) OH GOD THAT THIRD QUARTER..... Bucky still got some growing to do....

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Guam's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:51 am

Playing coverage and just rushing four is a little hard to watch, but definitely the right call against the Chiefs. Reid's game plan was to get the ball out quickly and Moore was doing it between 2.0 and 2.5 seconds. A blitz would have played right into Reid's hands as no blitz is going to get home in under 2.5 seconds and it would just have taken another man out of coverage.

Good plan by Pettine and well executed by the defense. Holding KC to 24 points is an accomplishment.

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:21 am

You can't match up in man for an entire game against that offense. There's too many moving parts, too much speed, the defense would be gassed after a quarter. With that being said, I think Pettine has been playing a bit too much zone over the past few weeks. I'm also not impressed by the cornerbacks playing off by about 10 yards on most plays. Against the chiefs, warranted. But you can't give that much space against offenses like Dallas and Detroit. They have the personnel to play man, I think they should run it more often.

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ragemk1's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:25 am

most of the big plays were against zone coverage not man. They should of played man to combat the quick passes. That busted play on kelce was Sullivan Biting on that post route. other than that most of their plays were made via YAC, due to us playing so far back.

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MarkinMadison's picture

October 28, 2019 at 06:42 am

The club is not enough to excuse Martinez's inability to cover Kelce. On the TD he wasn't even in the same zip code. It looked like he was just plain lost. I know that is not his forte. I know that he leads the league in tackles. But this is the NFL in 2019. If you can't cover at all it is hard to see spending the big money on you in free agency. He has to get better in this area.

I was surprised Wilson only had one sack. If felt like he was in the backfield a lot.

I think Bakh is more banged up than we know.

Elgton Jenkins makes me smile. The whole OL made me smile on the last drive. It's not just the play calling. I do not know if the OL last year could have driven the ball from the 2 to close out a game. I don't think they could have done it.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 28, 2019 at 07:32 am

I wonder if Kelce just wasn't supposed to be Martinez's responsibility at all. Otherwise I just have no explanation for how.younlet him run free like that. TEs have killed the Packers this season and it doesn't seam to be improving.

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4thand10's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:19 pm

Its that single middle linebacker look...but having Savage back is going to help alot. In no real world should a middle linebacker be covering Kelce for anything after 5 yards.

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LayingTheLawe's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:54 am

Any team in the nfl has just created a huge mismatch if they schemed a play that got their tight end on a middle linebacker with no help in sight. If the packers did this play you'd be praising how awesome the playcalling was to get that mismatch.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 28, 2019 at 11:05 am

Yeah, there’s plenty of LBs who can cover Kelce downfield. He sucks and is easy to cover.

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Rebecca's picture

October 28, 2019 at 05:41 pm

Hahaha...sweet sarcasm!

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October 28, 2019 at 09:38 pm

Just cant give this enough thumbs up lol

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GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

October 28, 2019 at 06:45 am

We need a #2 WR - Allison & MVS were only targeted 5 times and were 2 for 5 with 11 yards . Kumerow 2-4, 48 yds and Lazard 5-5, 42 yds. we need a #2 WR BAD.

AJ is a beast! Going forward we need a #2 WR and an ILB . Hopefully GUTE can find upgrades even if short term answers without giving up too much. GB showed alot of resilience in this game, they didn't fold like previous years. nice job MLF.

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flackcatcher's picture

October 28, 2019 at 06:49 am

we're past the trade deadline, and with the cap the Packers didn't have much to spend with. For better or worse, the Packers are going forward with what they have. There are no more deals out side of the wavier wire...

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murf7777's picture

October 28, 2019 at 07:02 am

I believe The trade deadline is tomorrow late afternoon. If Cincinnati is willing to trade for AJ Green or Gino Atkins the Packers should entertain the idea. Green is last year of contract and only pay a pro rate portion of salary. In addition if you choose not to resign him you get probably a third round compensatory draft pick. Gino would cost a lot but would be the difference maker in the middle with Kenny Clark whom is playing injured.

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dobber's picture

October 28, 2019 at 07:37 am

I know they say Green is about ready to play, but you DON'T trade for a rental who is injured. Just don't.

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murf7777's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:10 am

I understand the apprehension but a rental is what happens all the time in MLB and I believe you are seeing a shift in the NFL. If AJ Green passes a physical, it would make our O unstoppable. THE clock is ticking and when you have a great opportunity to go to a SB you go for it. Don’t be surprised if Gutey doesn’t make a splash trade before 4pm tomorrow.

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Cubbygold's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:27 am

I think if he could pass the type of physical you're suggesting, he would have been playing for the Bengals this weekend.

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PeteK's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:47 am

AJ Green and Atkins would be perfect additions. However, we can't destroy our cap( 6.5 mill for each) and draft for two players. Maybe Atkins for a 4th rounder.

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GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

October 28, 2019 at 07:16 am

Trading deadline ends Tuesday October 29th at 4:00.

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flackcatcher's picture

October 28, 2019 at 07:44 pm

Ugh. Yeah the deadline tomorrow. (bangs head on desk bangs head on desk again..)

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Cubbygold's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:12 am

Defensive help, sure. The offense is playing well and have reinforcements on the way (adams, tonyan, sternberger). I wouldn't trade for AJ Green and doubt the other prime trade candidates would move the needle much. LB on the other hand may be more impactful.

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4thand10's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:36 pm

Lazard is playing really fricken well. He just passes the smell test it seems like. He has lined up all over both sides of the field and has made plays...and he is young. I think we also have Ryan Grant who is probably still studying the play book. Im not sure if they have a slot role in mind for him? Earlier in the year i thought a #2 was needed...now im not so sure.

On defense missing Raven Green has had an impact and missing Savage for those previous games had an impact. Pettines single MLB seems to only work if there is stellar safety play. I still believe having another good DL for both spelling Kenny Clark while also giving the ability to play more base is kinda needed.

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SterlingSharpe's picture

October 28, 2019 at 06:46 am

Rodgers tried to get MVS more involved.
He slipped on one so Rodgers moved on, and he gave him a deep ball that was catchable but he really didn't have much separation, yet the pass was there & he should have caught it.

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ALLGASNOBRAKES's picture

October 28, 2019 at 07:00 am

Actually SS on that deep ball the KC CB swatted the ball out of his hands right at the end. It was really a nice play by the KC corner. IMO KC clearly focused on not giving anything deep to MVS and the Packers.

Other than that ball to MVS and the impossible throw (which only Rodgers can throw) I don't remember any other deep balls. Although at my age I may have already forgotten!

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jlc1's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:26 am

I saw that pass as about a yard or two short and that is why the db got his hand in to make it uncatchable. Just a touch higher and the dback does not get his hand in there. but hey how many QB's do you talk about making a better throw on a long ball like that?

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pacman's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:03 am

Yes, he COULD have caught it but it would have been a great catch. AR under-threw him YET AGAIN. And over-threw the old guy (JG) on the free play.

Not sure what the solution is here - can any QB adjust his throws that well for a super fast and a slow player besides everything else he has to think about?

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flackcatcher's picture

October 28, 2019 at 06:57 am

The only changes Green Bay could make at this point on Special Teams, is to play more starters on the units. But that might be more risk than reward at this late date in the season. I suspect that MLF is going thru his roster to see if he can upgrade the units, but at best, small moves giving the current roster makeup. I'm afraid the only thing we fans can do, is pray for their success...

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murf7777's picture

October 28, 2019 at 07:07 am

What I really love about this O and Aaron is there willingness to take what the opposing teams D is willing to give. The past 4- 5 games they are lighting it up! Cudo’s to MLF.

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Houndog's picture

October 28, 2019 at 07:41 am

The defense seemed to allow KC to do whatever they wanted and it was painful to watch at times. How many short passes does it take to get the DBs to move up from their 10yd cushion or MAKE a tackle?
Oh yeah, I realize KCs speed receivers played a big part in this scheme, and way too much of it was poor tackling, but we've got to get more help in the middle of the front.
Leonard Williams would be nice but I fear way too expensive, and I can't see any real ILBs that might be available.
With Z. Smith playing a lot of the game in the down position Vic Beasley could make a lot of sense as it wouldn't take a high pick to get him.
Gutekunst needs to make a move, and fast, this is not a championship defense and the deadline is looming.

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dobber's picture

October 28, 2019 at 07:41 am

It started to look like KC's blitzing the center gaps (which teams did to the Packers ad nauseum last year) was going to template how to attack this offense. Thankfully the Packers showed they could adjust and beat teams by dinking and dunking.

They're saying Mahomes could play next week. Good luck with that, Vikings...

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sam1's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:01 am

Jake Kumerow doesn't make a lot of plays but when he does he is reliable and makes catches that make you say wow! He is fun to watch and is clutch!

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Pack88's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:04 am

I find it tiresome to listen to the Talking heads and their blather about chemistry between Rogers and LaFluer. How about a disection of the improvement in O line play. E Jenkins is a stud. I wanted Dalton Risner and was unsure how Jenkins would do at guard but I was very sure that the hire of the O-line scouting specialist from Baltimore would pay dividends and I think the evidence is there.

Like a few years ago when GB drafted tackles and turned them into pro bowl guards maybe it is now turning centers into other positions. Anyway improved Oline play has been huge. Bulaga has been awesome this year and I agree DBak is hurt. I hope he uses the bye to get well. I also think Billy Turner is starting to mesh with his teammates. I also felt for much of the 1/4 of the season his power game did not match the speed and flow of the current O-line but the past two weeks he has seemed much more in sync with his mates in the run game and it shows.

It was easy to see Savage and his speed again last night, a tough match up with all that ability in the WR group but he suddenness is obvious and when Pettine finally changed tactics after the half both he and Alexander had crucial defended passes that helped win the game. It is a shame that Raven Greene is hurt- he seemed to have such a big impact on this team in the first two weeks, maybe Campbell will be able to help in the same manner when he returns. No knock on BJ Goodson he is an excellent run defender but his sundial time gets exposed in the short passing game.

Anyway a great win and I am just hoping for a great result in GB West next week

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October 28, 2019 at 08:07 am

We either live with AR or we die with AR EVERY game. I still don't get snapping the ball with a half of a second left on the clock. I can imagine that the DLine is watching the clock and he may catch them off sided. Two penalties due to that. Then he throws a ball out of bounds but somehow it lands in Williams' hands. Sorry Aaron, I love ya, man but don't tell me that it was meant for Graham or Williams. When the playoffs come and we face Brees, Garappolo, Goff, Wilson, they will pick apart the Packers defense and give up first down after first down. Where is that swarming Packer defense that we saw the first couple of games. Unfortunately, I see them as one and done due to their weak secondary. Lastly, yes Jones is a beast at 5'9" and 215 lbs, but it's a long season and as successful as he's been for the Packers I am concerned about him being either overused or get hurt. If he were to get shut down, who else can pick up the slack?

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jlc1's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:21 am

It seemed to me those penalties and other moments of confusion on the offense were because MLF was getting the plays in late. Hard to know for sure if that is true but the huddle definitely broke late a number of times.

Williams can pick up some slack and he is a better blocker too boot. I trust the coaches will continue to rotate the two to keep them both healthy.

Oline did do a good job outside of the 2nd quarter. My favorite was how far down field Linsley was on Jones' final touchdown, giving him one more block that really turned him loose.

as for the D yes there is work to do, but that is what we were saying about the offense a few weeks back. So let's see if the D gels a bit more like the offense has.

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Cubbygold's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:23 am

It's very odd that the defense isn't showing signs of progress. Their top 5 dbs were all on the field yesterday, can't blame injury.

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dobber's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:24 am

Agreed on Jones, but playing in the passing game more and pounding less (meaning Williams getting more run snaps) might help. When he went out to get his shoulder checked, I think there was a collective shudder passing through Packer country.

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October 28, 2019 at 08:56 am

I was shivering, Jones, Bak, Bulaga- LOL

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October 28, 2019 at 09:18 am

Teams are regularly keeping extra blockers in against the Packers pass rush and the Packers have one of the lowest blitz rates in the league...it's much harder to beat 6 or even 7 with 4. We saw that the last several weeks, and while it didn't seem that KC did it quite as much, their motion and short passing game kills that upfield push pretty quickly.

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October 28, 2019 at 09:21 am

not sure if you are packers fan or someone who is beyond negative for no reason. You do realize they are still learning a new system right? Its extremely wordy so whatever on that. SO what the ball was meant to go out of bounds, it was caught, and it was a TD so why are you crying? The chiefs had a great plan and it did not help pettine ran zone all game. That's not the players fault lol, they play what they are told. Calm Down Jeez

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cpabandit's picture

October 28, 2019 at 11:16 am

I am and have been a Packers fan for 50 years. I'm NOT negative, perhaps "concerned" would be closer. Don't get your panties in a knot over my comment with the Rogers/Williams pass, only being facetious. But I am very concerned about the soft defense shown in recent games compared to the swarming defense in the first couple of games. Not blaming the players, just pointing out something. Not crying, not crying at all. RELAX ragemk1, just RELAX.

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October 28, 2019 at 08:08 am

The Chiefs had a good game plan. If Savage hadn't been available, it might have worked. Alexander is good, but his reputation may have have gotten bigger than his play. I saw Martinez give ground on that TD to Kelce, but wonder if it was a busted play. No way does the ILB cover the TE down the middle w/o help. The strength of the defense is that they do work together. Which is why the 2nd qtr. was so frustrating. Any QB that is getting the ball off in less then 2.0 seconds isn't worried about being pressured. So, you have to decide....do I go light on ILBs and cover the heck out of those short passes and let them run or stop the run and make them beat you with a pass? I think Pettine has made those decisions throughout the year and made them successful. The difference between the Packers and the Patriots are busted assignments. The Pats have very few...the Packers still have too many of them in a game.

The biggest issue I had last night was with the offense. KC to stop the Packers had to put pressure on Rodgers. Those outlet passes were great and in the 2nd qtr. should have been used on first down verses the longer passes.

Special Teams...ugh. Has to get better.

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October 28, 2019 at 10:01 am

Comparing to the pats? Gee why don't more teams do it like the best team ever? Lol. If people could copy the patriots then they wouldn't be the patriots.

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October 28, 2019 at 08:14 am

Don't know why MVS is not more involved, might be poor route running. One thing they can involve him with is go routes but Rodgers has to stop underthrowing him on the deep ball. It's like he does not yet get how fast MVS really is.

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Cubbygold's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:27 am

Did Rodgers also severely under-throw Graham on that near interception to Breeland? I was wondering if it was a bad route by Graham, or if Rodgers really missed by 5 yards

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October 28, 2019 at 09:05 am

Rodgers does seam to under throw MVS. However MVS needs to help himself by also blocking out the defender instead of letting the him have an angle to get int his catch radius. If MVS can start to do that he can be a star.

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dannylee's picture

October 28, 2019 at 12:59 pm

I remember when the Ravens won the SB their receivers would slow down on underthrown balls and take the ball high. They would either catch it of the defender would run into them for PI.

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pacman's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:31 am

Been saying this for weeks - under-throwing MVS. It's a weekly occurrence now.

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dobber's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:25 am

Game ball to Shady. His fumble turned the game permanently back toward the Packers.

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Spock's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:31 am

KC had a good game plan but we still beat them in their house. JK Scott finally had his bad game and we came out with the "W" so I'm hoping he got it out of his system. :) I think the Packers are playing well but just surviving right now with the bye week still two weeks away and a lot of players "gutting it out". Z. Smith seems to go out at least once or twice a game but is a warrior and returns. I'm hoping no one has too severe an injury. Alex Light shows how important having a reliable backup swing tackle is! After 3 weeks in a row of playing teams who've had a bye or mini-bye week this has been a tough stretch and a game ball to MLF for keeping his team ready to play and having a winning game plan. On to the Chargers. Go Pack Go!!!

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jlc1's picture

October 28, 2019 at 03:36 pm

I'm going to give Scott some slack here as it sure looked like he was almost always trying to get the ball out of bounds. That, i assume, is because the kick unit does not cover the returner well enough to put the ball in play. so net he may have been ahead.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 28, 2019 at 08:48 am

Game Balls:

Aaron Rodgers - He had pressure in his face a lot. But he still went 23/33 for 305 yards, 3 TD's and a 129 rating.

Aaron Jones - He ran 13 times for 67 yards. Of those 13 carries and 67 yards, 6 carries and 29 of those yards came on their final drive! Then he rightfully so made the final first down to win the game.
Oh yeah, he also had 7 catches for 159 yards and 2 TD's.
The biggest difference that I have seen between the McCarthy and LaFleur led offenses is the way LaFleur uses his RB's. In Jones first 2 years (24 games he played in) he had 35 catches for 226 yards and 1 TD. This year alone he has 34 catches for 355 yards and 3 TD's.

Lame Calls:

Shepherd - He was removed from Kick Off returns, and is close to being removed from Punt Returns. That last PR he has to find a way to catch that. He can not allow that punt to get to the 2 yard line. Had the offense not finished it out we probably would all be ripping Shepherd apart for not catching that punt.

Letting Matt Moore look like a great player. Yeah I know that he had a week and a half to get ready for this game. I know they have great weapons. But that 2nd quarter was UGLY for the defense. The defense made the right changes in the 2nd half, but that first half got ugly quick.

Notes:

I really thought this was a game that Oren Burks was going to get involved more. He is big and fast. I thought they were going to use him and his speed to help cover.

It was great getting Savage back. I am hoping it was more due to rust then anything. Regardless seeing him flying around is a great thing for the defense.

Lazard has emerged. 5 catches on 5 targets. Rodgers seems to really trust him! I expect him to continue to be a key target.

When they get Adams and Tonyan back this offense could really take off.

With the trade deadline approaching, I am not sure if they will make a deal. I wouldn't be surprised if they traded for a WR/PR/KR type. Shepherd I like, but they need an upgrade. One more offensive weapon could completely change our offense. Do we need it? No probably not. But sometimes its that type of move that could completely change the team. Sometimes its not about need. Did the Patriots or the 49ers both need WRs? No, but they found a way to improve themselves. They both are undefeated as well.

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dobber's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:22 am

"Did the Patriots or the 49ers both need WRs? No, but they found a way to improve themselves. "

I would argue that they did. NE lost Brown and Gordon, and Dorsett's been playing hurt most of the year. They're getting nothing from their TEs.. SF has nobody...Pettis, Deebo, those guys aren't getting it done. It's all Kittle and the RBs.

I think there's a chance the Packers make a deal, but I feel pretty confident that BG won't overpay, and he won't threaten his cap with a deal.

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PeteK's picture

October 28, 2019 at 11:35 am

I think your right RC, we need WR, DT, and LB ( don't think any available fits at LB) I would give up a 3rd for Leonard Williams, but Jets would have to eat most of the remaining 7 mill. He's young and would flourish as part of our D.

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ragemk1's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:39 am

Look people it was a good team win. The defense did their best with what they were told to play, ZONE. I understand why they did it, but I would say 79% of KC biggest plays came against zone coverage. They did most of their damage YAC, where our Corners had to come down and try to make a tackle when their playmakers were already in their stride. Sucks but they held, played a great third quarter and got the only takeaway in the Game. Our biggest need is another Hybrid LB or start trusting Oren Burks because we need amos back in the back. That Kelce TD was a Blown coverage by Sullivan when he bit on a post to the other pylon. I don't really know why he would considering Moore was moving to his right. Veteran eyes would of seen that but we got the W so its all good, but Mike pettine has to do a better job of putting the players in a better position to make a play

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Leatherhead's picture

October 28, 2019 at 11:08 am

The defense held KC to 7 points in the second half. The RBs had 4TDs and nearly 300 yards. And Kelce catches passes against lots of people.

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CoachJV's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:44 am

" Mike Pettine opted to play zone coverage to keep Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins and Travis Kelce in check. The receivers ate up yards upon yards in the second quarter and the Packers defense had no answer. "

Lame Call to the writer... Just because YOU and most of the fans want to see it played differently - more aggressive - just goes to show that it's a good thing Pettine calls the D and not you! Pettine's choice was ABSOLUTELY the correct one... because we won! There was no answer because it worked as intended. So "no answer" was needed.

It's easy to write an article and critique... probably why you don't play the game.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 28, 2019 at 10:32 am

There is no need to be this harsh. We all have opinions about the game and since we are just fans they are probably all flawed to some degree.

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Max.Payne's picture

October 28, 2019 at 11:29 am

Ya I'm not a Petitne fan. IMO our Dbacks are way more talented then they are showing because Petine is pretty much conceding the field but trying his damdest to prevent the big play.
All I know is when the chiefs play the vikes there wont be one arm tackels and guys wide open, they will have defenders draped on them contending every catch. Why, because of the talent and the way the d coach uses that talent.

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4thand10's picture

October 28, 2019 at 09:58 pm

I dont agree, Andy Reid threw every trick play in the book against this defense and it still didnt get it done. Id love to see the vikings man up on Hill, Kelce and Watkins. Especially if Mahomes is healthy.....Ill get the popcorn.

Pettine was good for this team...new blood, not soft and assisting in winning games....7-1 against a way way tougher schedule then what the Pats got.

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Charvid's picture

October 28, 2019 at 11:05 am

I’ve read several posts referring to Scott’s bad game. I have to believe that the plan was to directionally punt the ball. Did he leave some yards on the field? Yes and it affected his average dramatically. Did he effectively neutralize the most bad ass return guy in the NFL? Also yes. So was it a “bad night”? I don’t know...

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4thand10's picture

October 28, 2019 at 10:00 pm

He also got roughed....which was a pretty bad no call.

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Max.Payne's picture

October 28, 2019 at 11:26 am

Game Ball The whole team should get a game ball for hanging in there, adjusting when needed, playing hurt and giving as good as you get. KC is not some patsy team, they were 5-2 going in and your playing in their house.

Lame calls. Did not like the play calling in the beginning. Drop back and try and make those McCarthy 25 yard pass plays with someone in your face every play. That ain't working and hasn't worked. Told wife wish he would roll out and give himself some time and try some short stuff and misdirection and sure enough when they did that the entire game changed.

Lame Call: Collingsworth. What a dork.

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PeteK's picture

October 28, 2019 at 11:42 am

We gave them a taste of their own medicine. What was wrong with Collingsworth ?

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Since'61's picture

October 28, 2019 at 11:49 am

Game Balls: Aaron Jones, he was the difference in the game. Aaron Rodgers, still makes the most unbelievable throws when they are needed the most and he still kills defenses with his mobility. Z. Smith, Lancaster for being on the ground right where the fumble landed.
O-line to close out the game with about 4 minutes left.

Lame Calls: Tackling on defense and Special Teams returns and coverage. Our STs just look awful.

Honorable Mention: Chandon Sullivan, perfect play on Kelce to end the Chiefs last possession. Nice game by Jimmy Graham receiving and blocking.

On to the Chargers. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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ricky's picture

October 28, 2019 at 12:10 pm

Can we give a shout out to Adrian Amos? The guy isn't flashy, but he is rock solid as a tackler and covers really well. That the Bears let him walk to sign Clinton-Dix just shows the huge difference in how each of these teams front offices stack up. The Bears paid a ton for Mack, moved up in a huge trade to get Trubisky, and hired a coach who doesn't seem to be able to create a decent offense. In Titletown, the Packers pick up four starters on defense for much less than Mack is getting paid; drafted well (again) this year, and have brought their offense back from the dead, mainly due to Rodgers and LaFleur finding ways to coexist and create an offensive that has become a balanced, well tuned scoring machine.

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marpag1's picture

October 28, 2019 at 12:16 pm

How about a respectful tip of the cap to the guy who landed Aaron Jones with the 182nd pick in 2017 round 5?

Thanks, Ted. Be well.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

October 28, 2019 at 12:26 pm

When you have a fast player like Tyreek Hill you have a CB jam him up at the line with a safety ready to relay and take the 2nd part of the job. This will also tire Tyreek down having to be more physical at the line of scrimmage .

Packers learned to do this when they faced Randy Moss in his prime after he racked up 200+ yards in his 1st game as a rookie!!

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Adorabelle's picture

October 28, 2019 at 12:29 pm

Based on most of these comments I had to look up at the mast and make sure I didn't wander into the Miami Dolphins chat by mistake. At what point do you people enjoy watching football?

The Packers are 7 -1. Enjoy it. They won a road game in one of the hardest places to win a road game. The offense is scoring 30 points a game and the defense is aggressive.

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October 28, 2019 at 12:34 pm

Kudos to the Packers for the win
I was very disappointed when I saw the Packers play soft zone coverage. Quite frankly, in shock.

Kudos to the opposing Chiefs. They knew thet did not have Mahomes and Matt Moore played great and they threw almost their entire playbook at the Packers!!! Very, very creative plays by Andy Reid and their blitzing 50% of the time to get back in the game. Packers did great adjustments and Rodger's took control with his leadership and was really reading the defense and guided our players on who would be attacking!! I honestly dont think Mahomes could have done much better. I could be wrong, but Moore really looked solid

Kevin King did good. For some reason fans were knocking him for the coverage on Tyreek Hill. Hill is an absolute Beast!! Probably the fastest ot top 5 fastest player in the NFL. Definitely #1 with his Versatility!! The guy does everything!!!

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alforno54's picture

October 28, 2019 at 03:27 pm

Watching this years version of the Pack makes one wonder how much different things could have been all these years if Aaron R had an Aaron J. Would probably hold every record. Not to mention more rings

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

October 28, 2019 at 04:51 pm

still would have had Dom Capers
stil McCarthy l would not have used RB as a deep passing threat
still would not have TEs properly or 2 TE set
still would have gotten 35 year old FA

NO THE PACKERS STILL WOULD HAVE SUCKED!!!!

They are finally doing what I have been yelling for for years !!!!! And all I got was smack talked back to and band from sites like this one and now we are 7-1.

I'll take my Thanks Doug now

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Rebecca's picture

October 28, 2019 at 05:35 pm

All the “Jones can’t catch the ball” idiots need to apologize or else. Funny how a new coach can find ways to use avaukable talent.

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October 28, 2019 at 06:54 pm

To be fair...No one in the NFL can cover Tyrik Hill. I cant really fault Pettine except for the Blake on Kelce play.

Game balls...Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Aaron Rodgers. Baktiari and Bulaga for grinding it out. Lazard, dude is legit. Vitale...making fullbacks great again and making the most of his limited snap counts...he a a nice lead block on a rushing TD.Sullivan with a crucial play on Kelce as was mentioned.

Lame calls...sure, the tackling, but it was Hill, Kelce, Watkins and Hardman and at times McCoy...that is a tough group to cover..especially without DL getting much pressure up the middle. Hometown refs, many no call holds on the KC Oline that were just blatantly un noticed or ignored. , 3 no call PIs that i counted on GB receivers.

Special teams were bad last tonight
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October 28, 2019 at 09:34 pm

Special teams HAS to get BETTER!!!

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azicebowl67's picture

October 29, 2019 at 05:10 am

Missed a point. We need a real threat at TE. Graham and Kendricks will be gone in 2020. We need to sign OJ Howard tomorrow. A good TE always kills us. We never reciprocate. It is a guarantee that Kittle will have over 150 yards when we play the 49ers. Sign Howard.

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