Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 640 - Packers Finalize Their Draft Class

Matt Froehlich, Mike Wendlandt and Tyler Grzegorek discuss the six selections the Packers made on Day 3 of the 2020 NFL Draft.

Matt Froehlich, Mike Wendlandt and Tyler Grzegorek discuss the six selections the Packers made on Day 3 of the 2020 NFL Draft.

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PackersWinning's picture

April 26, 2020 at 09:47 am

So… Question number one for the Packer fans should be we got crushed by the 49ers last time around so what have we done to make that not happen? The defense was outmanned out planned and beaten into submission. So now the Packers do nothing to get better on defense, and draft future players. It is clear, the Packers strategy is to Draft guys who look good in the gym shorts run fast jump high and lift a lot of weights. Gary had no productivity and look how that worked out love had horrible productivity let’s see how that turns out

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Lphill's picture

April 26, 2020 at 10:22 am

It’s gonna be ugly.

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Archie's picture

April 26, 2020 at 10:47 am

...........so what have we done to make that not happen?

Pretty much nothing.

This draft was obviously all about looking beyond the AROD/AJones era in GB. Too bad, because with the right additions, Rodgers and Jones and Davis and Bakhtari gave us a realistic shot at a SBC over the next few years. Gute/MLF want to remake this offense ala 9rs style. You can't pursue both objectives at the same time. Either go for the SBC now or go for the makeover. Management chose to get the makeover underway ASAP.

We should have traded A Jones and A Rodgers before the draft.

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CalPacker's picture

April 26, 2020 at 01:29 pm

I don't know what's worse, picking developmental players for a 13-3 team, or consistently over-valuing measurables in your picks. Guys like Burks, Gary, Love and Dillon all killed it at the Combine, but yeah, so far we haven't seen any football playing ability from them.
Such a sad time to be a Packers fan.

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 26, 2020 at 02:40 pm

Coming off a 14-4 season. Such a sad time indeed!

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Barnacle's picture

April 26, 2020 at 10:17 am

Gute overpaid and over extended an aging QB, allowed a DC to be retained, even though with loads of recent draft picks and expensive free agents, got out smarted by SF and had no ideas on how to counter attack. Now Gute’s. draft strategy has GB picks rated by published experts as “baffling”. I think Gute does not understand basic cap management, draft management and franchise player management.

I hope Gute retires soon, before he implements more “baffling” long term destructive decions.

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Lphill's picture

April 26, 2020 at 10:26 am

I don’t think Rodgers salary is an issue, but as good as the Smith Brothers are I think Gute was over generous with their contracts. That was an indication that he is not the right man for the job, but having no owner Gute can do as much damage as possible and have no repurcussions .

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CalPacker's picture

April 26, 2020 at 01:39 pm

Disagree on Rodgers. Gute paid the market price, pure and simple. But if you're going to keep an aging HoF QB, you've got to be all in, like the Patriots and the Saints, aggressively going after players that will complement the QBs mental assets.
I also was baffled by these picks, being a draft nerd and craving a trade down scenario of Hamler, Madubiuke, Niang and Phillips-- in other words, pretty much what the Ravens did.
But as I lay out in another post, I think this draft points to a hidden dysfunction in the Packers organization. Most teams with HoF QBs will ride those guys to the end, and suffer come what may in the rebuild. But unlike the 31 other "owners" in the NFL, Mark Murphy can get fired if a rebuild goes badly. Hence, you get the bizarre strategy of rebuilding a Super Bowl contending team, because Murphy's job security is best served by keeping the Packers a 10-6 team in perpetuity. Whereas Jerry Jones? Even worst case scenario, 1-15, whatever--he keeps his yacht.

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jh9's picture

April 26, 2020 at 12:05 pm

What's clear is BG has decided to take his lead from MLF and turn the Packers into a pale imitation of Kyle Shanahan's 49ers.
It won't work. I predict in the next 5-6 years the Packers will not win a SB and both MLF and BG will be replaced.

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Lphill's picture

April 26, 2020 at 12:34 pm

As per NFL .com. Packers draft , day 2 D , overall rating C- , what a surprise.

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Tarynfor12's picture

April 26, 2020 at 01:03 pm

I have often and yearly for the past few said this team has too many Grade C players. This draft has endeavored and succeeded in maintaining such a Grade. I await now the extensive search by many here to endeavor as hard and succeed in finding excuses and reason them to justify and make this draft a Grade B at the very least.

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CalPacker's picture

April 26, 2020 at 01:15 pm

In the first four rounds, the Ravens drafted Queen, Dobbins, Madubuike, Duvernay, Harrison, Phillips, and Bredeson. At mid-season at least SIX of those guys should be starting for a 14-2 team. Meanwhile, in the first four rounds, the Packers drafted Love, Dillon, and Deguara--exactly ZERO projected starters for a 13-3 team. In fact, most reputable scouts had both Dillon and Deguara as 4th round picks.
Overall rating of C-? Are you kidding me? This should be a super bowl contending team, not a team drafting for 2022-23.
F is the grade.
BTW: in three years drafting, Gutenkunst has delivered exactly 3 total starters for the current team. Unbelievable.

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CalPacker's picture

April 26, 2020 at 01:00 pm

You don't rebuild and compete for a SB at the same time. Healthy franchises ride their HoF QBs to the end,(see Brady's multiple SBs in his 40s) and then rebuild. But here's the thing: if the rebuild gets too painful, Mark Murphy's head could very easily end up on the chopping block. Jerry Jones and the other private NFL owners? No such thing as a chopping block. Jerry keeps his yacht no matter what, but Mark just might end up losing that house. So Mark's best play is a Green Bay team that stays at 10-6 till doomsday, keeping those paychecks coming. Meanwhile, a team that went to the NFC championship game exchanges its 1st and 4th picks--not to mention some enticing trade down scenarios--for a bench-sitting QB that Belichick and Payton passed on. I'm sure Mrs. Murphy was very happy with this pick, but the current Packers team is in mourning.

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ghostdog1108's picture

April 26, 2020 at 01:03 pm

Added a game changer back in AJ Dillon which we really need to complement Jones & open up the passing game. Receiving core should be improved with Begelton & Fuchess. 3 offensive linemen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgR9FyyuYPM

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CalPacker's picture

April 26, 2020 at 01:25 pm

Nope. Dillon has so much tread-wear...well, let's just say, he's not changing any games, and that's why everybody had him projected to rd 4. Offensive linemen? All developmental projects that will be rounding into form just about the time Love takes over. And reaching at Begelton and Funchess to atone for this absolutely embarrassing draft doesn't cut it. Murphy and Gutenkunst are on the clock.

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CalPacker's picture

April 26, 2020 at 02:03 pm

I'm sorry, I can't let this "game changer" thing go. You want a game changing RB in the second round? Compare Dillon with Dobbins, looking just at their performances against Clemson last year:
Dobbins (pick #55) 18 carries, 174 yards, 1 TD (68 yards), 6 receptions
Dillon (pick #62) 19 carries, 76 yards, 1 TD (9 yards), 0 receptions

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MWendlandt's picture

April 26, 2020 at 02:32 pm

That's a flawed argument in every way. Dobbins against Clemson had a ton of weapons to keep the defense occupied that opened up opportunities for him. Dillon was literally the only weapon for BC for three years and thus had Clemson keyed on him the entire game.

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Ryan3468's picture

April 26, 2020 at 03:07 pm

It’s looking a team identity is being formed. Rogers needs to buy in. In two years he might need to go to Tampa. A lot can happen. Anyone talking down this draft is inane. These kids need to play. They might have to wait a year. Then we draft again and ride two rookie classes in to camp. Who knows? The actual future does. Good luck guessing. Good luck. I think you should be excited. Anything is possible. Other than winning a Super Bowl this is the best feeling on earth. A new mold is forming. Run the ball, play defense, and keep your quarterback healthy. Rogers would be smart to buy in now that they aren’t going to play spread offense. He doesn’t need to take 50 plus hits a year. He can stay clean. Manage the game and get all the matchups he wants from those running backs putting the fear and pain in to their opponents. Football is hard. The Packers got a lot tougher. Go Pack Go!!!

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CalPacker's picture

April 26, 2020 at 04:42 pm

Hey, no offense, but your post makes no sense at all. There is no "new mold" here--just the old mold lying on the ground in a thousand pieces. "Run the ball, play defense and keep your quarterback healthy"? I'm sorry, but three 6th round developmental offensive linemen aren't even going to see the field for a couple of years--so you can forget about run-the-ball and keep-you-quarterback-healthy. "Packers got tougher"? Yes, I'll admit, the scout team got a nice upgrade in this draft.

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