Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 489 - Can Green Bay Bounce Back?

On today's episode, Jenelle Mackie, Matt Froehlich and Dan Kotnik discuss the ramifications from Sunday night's ugly loss and what it means moving forward into this week's game against the Giants. With a winnable matchup this week, who needs to have the biggest bounce-back performance? Plus, how will injuries come into play as Green Bay starts the home stretch towards the playoffs?

On today's episode, Jenelle Mackie, Matt Froehlich and Dan Kotnik discuss the ramifications from Sunday night's ugly loss and what it means moving forward into this week's game against the Giants. With a winnable matchup this week, who needs to have the biggest bounce-back performance? Plus, how will injuries come into play as Green Bay starts the home stretch towards the playoffs?

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PackersWinning's picture

November 26, 2019 at 01:45 pm

I think most fans suffer from MJS syndrome after reading that worthless paper for years. Graham is worth the league minimum not $12M. After Davante they have zilch. Lindsey should play every snap, he never hits anyone. Coaching....coach got burned. Martinez never made a tackle closer than 5 yards to the line of scrimmage. And lastly Rodgers still can drop a dime, however they’re few and far between. His performance and skill detestation has been incredible. The 2 interceptions better reflect his unwillingness to try than his accuracy. At the end of the day the talent gap continues as does the fact that we are not a tough team mentally or physically. Until we close the talent gap, the coaches mature, and the organization realizes that winning is more important than style points we’re not winning the big prize.

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ShooterMcGee's picture

November 26, 2019 at 06:07 pm

Of course we can beat the Giants and other mediocre teams but a run to the Superbowl is unrealistic. Both Seattle and San Francisco can end our season in the playoffs with their superior talent and coaching. Maybe next year.....

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RedRight49's picture

November 26, 2019 at 10:31 pm

You ask:

" With a winnable matchup this week, who needs to have the biggest bounce-back performance? "

MLF and his play calls;
Aaron Rodgers should return to form after the San Francisco massacre;
The entire O- Line;
All WRs and TEs;
ILBs;
The secondary en masse;
Special teams including the punter.

The Pack will take down the Giants and resume their rightful winning ways against non-elite opponents.

Minnesota will be an on par challenge in a few weeks and I look at the upcoming NY and Washington games as opportunities for the entire team to return to winning positional battles and bouncing back to playing winning football.

This Green Bay team is better than last year's team, has some notable upgrades each named Smith, although there remains
a chasm between the Packer's roster and those of the elite teams.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 27, 2019 at 02:01 am

This is about players, not plays. I do not believe LaFleur's scheme is at fault. Sure, there are some things coaches can do with the play calling and scheme, but that works at the margins. If the OL gets whipped physically, there isn't a hell of a lot a coach can do about that. There are two big problems.

1. AR won't throw over the middle. 2 passes were attempted between the hash marks out of 33 attempts. See the Next Gen link below. This is very common: you can go back and look at AR's pass chart for prior games and the pattern is stark. Against SF, the average depth of pass was the line of scrimmage. I had dreams of Vitale, et al, running seam routes, but at most he runs a wheel route so Vitale is at or near the numbers, where AR is comfortable. There is a third passing attempt between the numbers. Everything else is short or outside the numbers.

2. WR Talent. Other than Davante, there isn't any. The San Fran quotes are devastating:

"We played a lot of man-to-man. (Defensive coordinator Robert) Saleh called a lot of man-to-man today and we felt like that was the plan to try and stop the run and stop Aaron Jones," (Richard) Sherman said. Kyle Shanahan said a big reason why his defense limited Rodgers was the fact that "guys weren’t open in rhythm," and coverage was "very tight."

SF loaded up the box and took Aaron Jones away. The receivers had one on ones but could not get open in the requisite time allotted. You can scheme some rubs that get WRs open quickly, or you can have WRs who can win quickly. We don't have the latter. MVS is fine as a deep threat, #3 WR type. Otherwise, he is unpolished in terms of route running and field awareness.

Only Adams can get open quickly, and he is out on the boundary fairly often where that is more difficult. Guys like Kumerow will run the route correctly and be where they are supposed to be so AR can throw him open, but that means beating press and re-directs so the receiver is not delayed and is where he is supposed to be on time.

The street free agency tree is pretty bare for starting quality WRs. The only one out there who might make a difference is Antonio Brown. I have not followed Brown's off the field issues so perhaps I would say the price for glory is too high. A commissioner's suspension might make it moot anyway. So we will have to wait for next year and hope to draft a rookie WR who can make an instant impact, something that has not been done really in the AR era.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/pass/team/season/week/aaron-rod...

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