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Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 260 - Draft Preview Part 10 - The Safeties

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Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 260 - Draft Preview Part 10 - The Safeties

On today's episode, Kris Schimmel and Dan Kotnik are joined by fellow Pack-a-Day member Matt Froehlich. The three take a deep dive into this year's safety draft class. Find out which prospects stick out the most and which players they could realistically see in a Packers uniform.

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Andy is a graduate of UW-Oshkosh and owns & operates the Pack-A-Day Podcast. Andy has taken multiple courses in NFL scouting and appears weekly on 107.5 The Fan in Green Bay to breakdown film. This past season he was an analyst on Green Bay Nation on WFRV TV in Green Bay. Andy grew up in Green Bay and is a lifelong season ticket holder; follow him on Twitter at @sconniesports.

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albert999's picture

Draft a safety, offensive line and a special teams returner
Abram
Taylor
Holyfield

KeepErMovin's picture

Abram has zero ball skills. Plus he's a hard hitting safety in a league that has eliminated enforcer type safeties. On top of that he has had shoulder injuries already. Hard pass on Abram for GB.

Also, I don't think Holyfield will be ready for camp because he needs to finish running his 40.

NitschkeFan's picture

"I don't think Holyfield will be ready for camp because he needs to finish running his 40."

Now that was funny!! Keep them coming, we need more levity on this board.

Holecrap's picture

I raced him last week and I'm in my 70' s, so is his 40 times.

jannes bjornson's picture

Abram will be the first Safety off the board.

KeepErMovin's picture

My safety ranking specifically for GB:

1. Adderley
2. Thornhill
3. Savage
4. CGJ
5. Thompson
6. Hooker
7. Blair
8. Rapp
9. Abram
10. Tell III

GB needs a safety who can play deep. Rapp's 4.74 40 eliminates him from consideration.

Abram has zero ball skills. Plus he's a hard hitting safety in a league that has eliminated enforcer type safeties. On top of that he has had shoulder injuries already. Hard pass on Abram for GB.

albert999's picture

Adderley is WAY over hyped

jannes bjornson's picture

Addereley's been rated at the third round by many or lower second. Bucky Brooks has his new ratings out and the pro day results are in for the rest of the group. Thompson falling like a rock. Thornhill given consideration as a CB.

stockholder's picture

Draft: Thornhill, Next: Adderley, Thompson, Rapp, Johnson, Abrams. SB Nation has Sweat @12 and Adderley the preferred [email protected] Can we just drop OL until the 4th?

KeepErMovin's picture

3rd or 4th round for OL is fine.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

You listed 7 safeties I'd be happy with, KeepErMovin. Surely one of them will be there at #44? OTOH, guys who can be projected to replace Bulaga in 2020 are more scarce. Take the OL at 30 (assuming we haven't taken Taylor with the higher first round pick).

Thornhill over Adderly?. I could be talked into Thornhill at #30. It really depends on who is still on the board at 12 and 30. I suppose that is true for all the picks.

stockholder's picture

The OL really do scare me. Not saying that because I want defense. Their feet, Muscle, or arm length just isn't right. I'd Take the Iowa TEs over any OL. @30. Thorn hill will be a great player. And the fact he can play CB is a bonus. I'm seeing @25now. I believe Thornhill is this years Alexander Climbing. I wish we had more picks between 30 and 44. Watch the patriots Trade up.

KeepErMovin's picture

I listed 7, but that does not mean they are equal. Adderley and Thornhill are first tier for me and I would take either at 30.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Fair enough. I'd be fine with Adderly or Thornhill at 30 (has to be a FS). I declined to argue with a draftnik who pointed out that not all the OL are equal either, particularly if you're willing to wait for the 3rd or 4th round, at which point they are really not equal and means we ain't getting an OT.

The draftnik argued that GB should trade up from 30 for Risner. I suggested that Risner might easily be there at #30, and if not, there are a bunch of OL I'd be happy to take with the thirtieth pick (not to mention a bunch of other positions) while saving the 3rd or 4th round pick by not trading up.

Didn't argue because that particular draftnik has proven himself over the years to me. Listening to this podcast, at least one guy has Rapp then CGJ above Adderly and Thornhill. I decline to argue with them as well since I don't watch a lot of film anymore.

stockholder's picture

Draft Scout posted some updates. The size, speed, and rankings are interesting. I remember drafts, when there were No arguments on the top 5 OL. Even S. Now they throw them into a big pile. My problem with adderley is his speed. Nobody has an update. They said he was fast. But nobody has clocked him lower then 4.55. Until I see adderlys and Thompsons 4o time. I believe Thornhill must be the pick.

jannes bjornson's picture

TGR As an Abram supporter I mock Thornhill to the #30 spot. He has the FS qualities and ball skills The Pack needs. Abram is a close call but Amos has that job.

albert999's picture

I think Rodgers would disagree

stockholder's picture

“Talk low, Talk slow, and Don't say too much.”
― John Wayne. He broke his collar-bone and that ended his football playing. Rodgers only needs to throw the ball. Not put it in writing.

jeepingmakooi's picture

Depending on how Madison does and how they viewed him last year talent wise they might not take oline until late now. They have a second year player in Nico and basically a rookie tackle in Cole.. along with Alex light.. you guys always dismiss guys who haven't been the starter. Remember we signed Turner as well.

stockholder's picture

Right! I don't see how Gute can pass on safety now. These guys will make more of an impact then a Rookie OL. I remember tape on Green a RB from Hawaii. It was so good he should have been in rd 1. I believe Thornhill will be the first safety off the board. Not Adderley.

Packman60's picture

Adderley , Savage or Thornhill At least one if not two of these should be available at #30 or #44. Amos would be better utilized as the strong or box safety., so I would stay away from Abrams and while I like Rapp I think his lack of speed would be exposed in the deep centerfield. Defensive front seven BPA at #12 and OT at whatever spot they don't take a safety with. This would be an awesome start to the draft.

jannes bjornson's picture

Abram covered Metcalf deep twice w/out issue in the battle of the confederacy.

Old School's picture

I'm glad you mentioned that. Abrams is #1safety on my board. He tackles.

He is #43 on the CBS rankings.

Packman60's picture

Thompson reminds me too much of Ha-Ha. Instincts are lacking.
No thanks.

3rd round, Hooker from Iowa would be a solid choice. I wouldn't expect any of these (Adderley, Savage or Thornhill) to last until #75.

KeepErMovin's picture

I mean, that is just incorrect. Thompson has the best instincts in the class.

www. profootballfocus.com/news/draft-pff-film-room-deionte-thompson

(You will have to remove the space after the www.)

blondy45's picture

The Pack must draft their first safety with pick number 30 or 44. I list them as my favoritesbelow:

stockholder's picture

But how do you feel about a trade. The packers won't take Sweat. They trade the @12 pick to Oak. for 24 or 27 AND 35. Oakland gets their Edge or CB. Or A Trade #2. with Indy. #26 and #34 gives them a CB. (And yes I'm talking G.Williams./ Murphy for both Oak.and Indy) This gives GB a TE/OL/DT and Safety. They still have @30 and @44.

blondy45's picture

That would be awesome Stockholder. The more picks in the top 118 draft picks the better for the Pack. I would still take Ed Oliver or Devin White @ 12 if they are there though. The more picks to move up or down the better. I know the Pack needs OT help, but I hope we fill our Safety, TE, and INSIDE LINEBACKER needs first. Add at least 2 more OT later. We could use a RB and obviously a TE. I love Safety Juan Thornhill or TE Noah Fant @30, and OT Dalton Risner @ 44. Montez Sweat is no chump at 12 either. A guy can dream right? Thanks for reading Gary.

hobowilly's picture

hi Blondy....l'd bet on both Oliver & White being gone maybe by 8, definitely by 10.....let's watch! I'd take either though....run to the podium @12. Either way, there's a strong hunch Gutey chooses BPA over need if he stays @12. Like what you gave as an overview! Remember BPA and it was Gutey who moved GB's board into that position based on his FA signings! Lastly, GB did well last year selecting WR's, both MVS & EQ contributed and they have great upside. If Moore doesn't improve, Gutey will get rid of him. Tey is awesome right?! Book still out on Allison, but AR likes him; If he's available @ a reasonable position, a gadget man like Isabella could work..that is if Bellicheat doesn't snag him earlier. I wouldn't go higher than 75 for him though but if "Cheats" likes him, NE has 73rd pick, just say'n...

jannes bjornson's picture

Why not trade down #30 to #35 and pick up a low three?

stockholder's picture

A low 3 takes you away from 1 more of the safeties, Fant, Simmons, Little,Ford,lindsstrom,Risner. Anybody that was considered top 50. The prize was the 34 /35 pick. For say Sweat. By trading down Lets say Raiders. @27 Fant /Lawrence @30Simmons @35 Thornhill/Adderley @44 Lindstorm / Risner If Anything, I would trade out of the 3rd rd.

Old School's picture

I'm on the trade down bandwagon. There are a lot of very good players in the Top 100 or so and I'd like as many as I could get.

Old School's picture

I'm on the trade down bandwagon. There are a lot of very good players in the Top 100 or so and I'd like as many as I could get.

blondy45's picture

Safety 1. Thornhill 2. Adderley @ pick # 30 3. Abrams 4. Rapp @pick #44. First pick @12 I hope will be 1.Oliver 2. D. White 3. Sweat 4. Burns

KeepErMovin's picture

GB needs a safety who can play deep and cover. Adderley and Thornhill are ideal for that role. Rapp's 4.74 40 eliminates him from consideration.

Abram has zero ball skills. Plus he's a hard hitting safety in a league that has eliminated enforcer type safeties. On top of that he has had shoulder injuries already. Hard pass on Abram for GB.

I find the 4 safeties you listed interesting. As skill sets go, Abrams and Rapp could not be more different than Thornhill and Adderley.

blondy45's picture

I agree with you KeepErMovin, pass on Abram and Rapp.

albert999's picture

Bleacher report just reported this

"A source close to one of the team's skill-position starters says Rodgers was the one 'sinking the ship' with zero interest in developing [Marquez] Valdes-Scantling, [Equanimeous] St. Brown or [J'Mon] Moore," Bleacher Report's Ty Dunne reported

jannes bjornson's picture

That is the WR coaches JOB. Gruden worked with Sharpe and Brooks, Farve just tossed them the ball, dig.

stockholder's picture

wrong - Adams is looking forward to playing the slot. He praised Rodgers, and not Jennings or Finley. Adams is earning everyones respect. Well Done Mr.Adams. Well Done!

blondy45's picture

Rodgers is our meal ticket to a successful season. The past is past, the future is NOW. I'm sure the fact that Rodgers did very little at practice to help develop the young WR's because of his injuries. That is the past, now he is "healthy" and NOW must develop his young WR's games. Rodgers will be under the microscope this year. If Rodgers is indeed full of himself, word will get out. If Rodgers is the leader most think he is, his chip on his shoulders will make everyone especially his WR's improve. The head coach must lay down the rules and demand adherence to them. Do not kiss Rodger's back side. He needs to be a team player more than ever.

RickInCali's picture

Anything Dunne says with regards to anything GB is completely suspect.

I watched a lot of tape where the rookies weren’t where they were supposed to be, consistently. One of the archives here has a great breakdown showing that. More proof of poor coaching, poor preparation and possibly a disconnected/frustrated and obviously injured QB. Not to mention a suspect o-line (some of which due to injuries), an injured Jimmy Graham, and Cobb not being able to separate.

It can only go up from there......

Holecrap's picture

I read one analyst suggesting we move someone to safety and graft a shut down corner. The corners are better then the safety choices this year.
His thinking, a real good corner makes the safety position easier.

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