Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 1070 - Why I Believe in Jordan Love

Jake Morley has been in on Jordan Love since before he was a Packer. Today he explains in detail why. 

Jake Morley has been in on Jordan Love since before he was a Packer. Today he explains in detail why. 
 

 

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greengold's picture

June 29, 2021 at 11:21 am

Jake, I'm right with you on Jordan Love having the traits to be successful as our starting QB in Green Bay.

Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are great examples of young QBs who have had success coming in and starting early in their careers. Justin Herbert is another. Kent Swanson knows what he was talking about with Love. Throwing athletically, in the pocket, throwing on the run, throwing out of structure accurately with great timing and an inane ability to work the ball downfield are characteristics that are highly coveted in the NFL. Love has those in spades.

I recall Kent's best comp for Jordan Love being Daunte Culpepper as a good one in that Love has a great ability to stand in the pocket to make the majority of his throws. As a floor? A more athletic Daunte Culpepper... being able to throw accurately with touch at every level of the defense is something rare and highly sought after. I'd offer another comparison in Ben Roethisberger for his abilities as a pure passer in the pocket, with Love being far more athletic, and more able to throw on the run when called for.

I've watched as much of Love's games/throws as possible, and Love does stand in that pocket with zero fear to deliver the ball to his WRs. It really is something to watch. I don't think he will be flustered at this level. He's a truly confident competitor.

Love has all of the Pro traits that cannot be taught. His shortcomings are in reading defenses, and in all fairness, those commentaries pointing to that are based largely on 2019 film where he lost 9 of 11 starters on offense. Also, reading defenses and coverage switches in a read-option offense can be taught.

You're right, Jake, that Jordan has an elite arm.

One of the biggest advantages Jordan Love brings to the Packers is he needs little to no work on throwing mechanics. He has the arm talent and athleticism to make very throw. Standing in the pocket, on the run, sidearm and shovel passes are all a part of his regular arsenal. His motion is always powerful, with no wasted energy or prolonged wind up, and he has incredible touch to go along with those traits. His release is also very quick, as you mentioned. Lightening quick.

Love has great size at 6-4 220 to see the field, and has the quick feet to outmaneuver pass rushers and make those tough throws on the run. JL's ceiling is incredibly high, and he has the right HC in LaFleur to make him the best he can be.

When people ask "why did they take him?" Well, this is largely why. He's a near perfect prospect to run the Matt LaFleur offense. I'm excited to see what JL can do this season, should AR not return to GB, and I think Matt LaFleur will work tirelessly to insure he is successful as our starter.

It's OK. My fellow Packer fans & friends, I think you can go ahead and be excited about Jordan Love taking over at QB here in Green Bay. Don't listen to the media. They don't know. Jordan Love and Matt LaFleur do know. This will likely be different than what we were expecting for 2021, but I think watching Love develop this year should be really cool. Take the pluses and minuses that come with the learning, give him the time as fans to mature into the role of starting QB, and we might realize far more success than we can imagine. I'm 100% confident he can do the job well.

Great job, Jake! "Enjoy the ride." Well said.

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Archie's picture

June 29, 2021 at 01:16 pm

I agree. JL has exciting potential. Embrace the future. I think AR realizes what we have in JL too. What else could explain his craziness?

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 29, 2021 at 11:50 am

What's the FO waiting for then? Trade Rodgers and be done with it.

It shouldn't matter if Rodgers makes Denver an SB contender, the Packers have Jordan Love, and according to all the Jordan Love adoration being showered upon us, GB remains a true SB contender this season with him under center.

Stop the game of whine and make the decision based on what is truly believed about Jordan Love, either trade Rodgers and go with the newly adored one, or concede that Rodgers is your best and only chance to get to the SB, if that's the ultimate goal, as should be.

If the FO, HC believes in Jordan, say so by trading Rodgers now. If not, settle this crap with Rodgers and move on.

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greengold's picture

June 29, 2021 at 01:29 pm

TarynsEyes,
Must you constantly shower contempt upon us Packer fans for pointing out a player's positive traits?

Signed,

"Self-ignited," Kabion Ento lover.

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packer132's picture

June 29, 2021 at 01:31 pm

Greengold: I think Taryn and Stockholder are the same person.

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greengold's picture

June 29, 2021 at 01:54 pm

It's OK. Laughable. We have to keep it fun.

Regardless, there is a lot to like with many Packers players because Gutekunst and his staff work tirelessly to find good players, and they're really some of the best in the business.

For myself, I really appreciated Jake Morley sharing this, as it allowed me to share what I had learned about JL after all the stuff I had studied on him.

Not everybody has time to search this stuff out. My wife & I don't have kids, so, I do have a little more time to throw at this kind of stuff. Plus, the personnel side is a real passion of mine. Just wanted to share those things that I found that really set him apart from the others, and what the Packers might have been seeing to make him that #26 pick of the 2020 NFL Draft.

A lot of fans complain about the pick, but then don't offer up who they felt was the best choice there, at either #26 or #30. I know my choices were 1. WR Michael Pittman Jr. or 2. RB Clyde Edwards-Hilaire.

I laugh at that now.

Never considered they would take a QB, so I didn't study them. I get it now. This guy's got the goods.

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 29, 2021 at 01:59 pm

Must you constantly shower contempt upon those who do not buy non-game-tested players simply because you want it that way?

You prove your self-ignited character flaw by getting inflamed by someone who will not buy what you're selling without seeing first what he can do.

What he did in college is what got him drafted, it isn't an automatic testimony to what he does in the NFL. That comes from play and play is what he hasn't done, and shorts and shirts and the use of a no-hitting defense don't count.

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greengold's picture

June 29, 2021 at 02:24 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I knew that, "Must you," would be the first two words of your retort.

Gotcha MF!!!!

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 29, 2021 at 05:56 pm

It's known also as 'back at you' and I did and you can try an laugh it off as much and for as long as you desire.

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Amy Berk's picture

June 29, 2021 at 12:00 pm

Because they need to see him play against an NFL defense.

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 29, 2021 at 12:28 pm

Then they should never have allowed what's going on to happen and not trade up to get Love, and by not doing so would have shown they were committed to honoring the contract with Rodgers that everyone screams as having 3 years left remaining and one year into the new deal, which says to Rodgers that the FO regretted the new deal. Looked for a QB that they can use to create this situation and have Rodgers look like the sole cause of the problem. If not, start Love, even if Rodgers returns, but they can't and won't unless it looks as though Rodgers forced their hands.

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greengold's picture

June 29, 2021 at 02:06 pm

Let me get this straight... the Packers FO conspired to get rid of Aaron Rodgers?

Or, did they just make a plan to move on?

Packer Fan Nation being showered with this bad, and quite frankly, shockingly new information wants to know. Don't all NFL teams honor their contracts fully? For how long has this been going on? Forever???

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 29, 2021 at 05:19 pm

Drafting a QB in the first round, not to dismiss the trade needed to do such, after one year of signing an extension that made Rodgers the highest-paid QB isn't a tad concerning? This contract spoke to and had not only Rodgers but near everyone that he was the QB for the seeable future and would suggest that a QB would be drafted in the 5th round at best over the next 3 at least. Looking for his replacement was at least 3-4 years away at the signing, not the next year after. Perhaps if it were a Trevor Lawrence type I'd get the desire to do it, but it wasn't and Love isn't.

I'll add this, perhaps it became a realization that the MLF offense didn't NEED the Rodgers level at QB and realized the extension was done too soon, as I and others have stated many times before it became a reality.

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greengold's picture

June 29, 2021 at 09:11 pm

Oh, yes, TarynsEyes. You were so right many times before back then...

With all of your pissing and moaning about the Packers taking Jordan Love, you’ve yet to say who your preferred choice was. Shocker.

Again, lots of bashing. Little substance. I’ve already explained why I felt Jordan Love was a great choice. The R4 to move up? No wonder you’re unwilling to get into it.

Wow. While you christen “Trevor Lawrence?” Really?

“5th round at best?” “At least 3-4 years away?” Favre was a year younger when we drafted Aaron. What in the actual fuck are you talking about? Nonsense.

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Leatherhead's picture

June 29, 2021 at 04:02 pm

Instead of viewing this from the perspective of who Love might or might not be, I look at it like this:

I like the Packers. They stumbled along during The Long Dry spell, but finally they got their act together and people like Harlan and Wolf built a real good organization that involves a multitude of good people who are smart, work hard, and know their shit. Our front office is a model of how to do things.

So when this organization picks a guy at #1, I trust he can play, and I expect he’ll be ready before too long. And until I see compelling evidence otherwise, that’s what I expect to see. I would use two measuring sticks on Love.

1). What does he do is his first couple starts in comparison with Favre and Rodgers.
2). How does he compare with Burrows, Herbert, Tua and Hurt.? They were in his draft class and all played extensively as rookies, so if Love is the AVERAGE of that group, what might we expect. Based on a survey of those guys, a reasonable expectation might be 63% completions, about 24 TD and 10 picks, assuming he played all 16 games.

Love is also going to a better team than any of them. That’s going to count.

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Crankbait's picture

June 29, 2021 at 04:26 pm

I beg to differ. Our front office is a model of how to waste two Hall of Fame quarterbacks.
Since Holmgren and Wolf, this organization has had more terrible coaching staffs than not and crap trench drafting.
I do appreciate and enjoy all the regular season winning, but
you expect more playoff success.

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greengold's picture

June 29, 2021 at 06:18 pm

Best laid plans, man... best laid plans.

Who could have ever imagined Mike Holmgren, the picture of prudence, would make a statement to the press during the press week leading up to the Super Bowl in 1998 that he had aspirations to find a job as a GM/HC?

That was a shocking distraction to what was the superior team.

That brought us Ray Rhodes. Then Mike Sherman, and the quick exit of the legend Ron Wolf. The Sherman era was a disaster. In comes Ted. He did alright until his mental capacities failed him. They went unchecked for a number of years because those are difficult to recognize and diagnose.

Gutekunst is in year 3. It took Ron Wolf 6 years as GM to bring home a Super Bowl winner.

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TarynsEyes's picture

June 29, 2021 at 06:01 pm

"Love is also going to a better team than any of them. That’s going to count."

You can honestly say and believe that if Rodgers isn't the QB? Perhaps these other teams you speak, without mentioning, of being worse just needed the QB upgrade and will now make GB look like the losers in comparison. It is ignorant to dismiss what Rodgers did for every Packer team that has played with him as we've seen the quick fall from mythical presence without him.

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greengold's picture

June 29, 2021 at 08:32 pm

Not a difficult task to connect CIN, SD, MIA & PHI with the QBs mentioned.

Here are some power rankings. Objectively, these power rankings carry little weight, but they do reflect the change from the pre-draft end of season projections.
https://www.thelines.com/betting/nfl/power-rankings/

Don’t you think it might be kind of ignorant of you to assume that anyone who supports Jordan Love is dismissive of the contributions Aaron Rodgers made to the Packers in previous seasons?

I’m sure all of the Brett Hundley & Seneca Wallace fans here were dismayed when Rodgers went down. Might be even more ignorant of you to equate Jordan Love with either of those two.

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stockholder's picture

June 29, 2021 at 04:53 pm

I stated: When they drafted Love it was for the Glory of Gute. That it was for "REPLACEMENT" rather then winning. If we talk bad about Love. Were talking bad about the Packers. The warning here is "Malice". Gute has No integrity. And in some capacity; it will hurt the packers for years to come.

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Archaism's picture

June 30, 2021 at 08:25 am

I think maybe it is fair to say that the Packers had not invested in any kind of suitable backup to Rodgers in years. Doing so with the best player available (in the FO's mind, not yours), at the hardest position in all of pro sports, at the end of the first round. This indicates an investment of the position long term while also giving the flexibilty of the short term IF needed. Nothing more, nothing less.

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June 29, 2021 at 09:57 pm

Always interesting to hear people say our front office wasted two hall of fame QBs. Seems they put a solid enough team around both to get them to the NFC championship many times over. Who failed in those big games, the FO or those two HOF QBs? Guess it’s all in how you look at it.

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