Not Inviting Ex-Packers To The White House Is Wrong

Another tone-deaf decision from 1265 Lombardi Avenue.

I'm going to keep this short and simple.

When the Packers visit the White House on August 12th, several members of the team that beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XLV to bring home the Lombardi Trophy will not be in attendance. Players who have joined new teams, guys like Brandon Jackson, Cullen Jenkins and Daryn Colledge, all three instrumental in the victory over the Steelers, have not been extended an invitation to join the team when they meet the President.

Even guys like Mark Tauscher or Brandon Chillar, who are currently without a team due to injury, are not invited because they are not on the Packers roster.

However, Packers rookies and first year players, who had nothing whatsoever to do with the Super Bowl victory, will be in attendance.

I'm sorry, but this is patently absurd.

I already know the popular response: They are on new teams. It's just business. The guys on new teams will have practice and couldn't attend anyway.

Nonsense.

You invite the guys. It's the right thing to do. You invite all of them. If they can't make it, if their new teams won't allow them to go - fine. That's on them. But you invite them for God's sake.

It's been interesting to see the reaction from a few of the principals.

Here's Tom Silverstein on Mark Tauscher and Tauscher's quote:

(Tauscher) said he would have loved to take the trip to the White House with the team - in part because he's very interested in politics - but he said he understood the circumstances.

"I completely understand it and I'm not the least bit upset about it," he said. "You have to be able to roll with the punches and I think it will be a great time for those guys."

And here is what Jarrett Bush had to say about it via Twitter last night (he has since deleted the Tweet):

...players that left the packers lately won't be attending the the white house. Kinda wack to me.

Couldn't agree more Jarrett.

Just another tone-deaf decision from 1265 Lombardi Avenue.

 

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bomdad's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:20 pm

Isn't it up to Obama as to who to invite?

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PkrNboro's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:26 pm

Just as bizarre as boxing-up a locker and calling FedEx for a pickup...

...but at least the roster is looking pretty good.

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Bearmeat's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:28 pm

This is just another example of TT's inability to handle simple PR decisions. He is a great football guy, but clearly didn't major in communications during his time as SMU.
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I don't know what went on behind the scenes in this decision - but MM should know better. He is a good manager of people...

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maxginsberg's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:28 pm

"Just another tone-deaf decision from 1265 Lombardi Avenue."

I couldn't agree with you more. It's unfortunate that the Packers can do this because they are the Packers. Other teams that have to worry about ticket sales could never withstand the PR blunders the Packers have made in the past year. The "most passionate fans" in the NFL is a curse and a blessing...

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Michael Neelsen's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:33 pm

Are we assuming they weren't invited or was that stated somewhere? I was under the assumption that they did invite the players but they couldn't come due to obligations with their new teams. For example, the Eagles won't let Jenkins come or the Bills won't let Barnett come. How do we KNOW they weren't invited?

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PackerAaron's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:52 pm

They were not invited.

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Michael Neelsen's picture

August 06, 2011 at 08:16 pm

I'm sure you're right, but my question was how do you know they weren't invited?

It's clear they aren't going. But it sounds a little speculative to say they weren't invited unless you have a source you can cite. Did someone say they weren't invited?

I can imagine the Eagles wouldn't be thrilled to lose Jenkins for a day on a short training camp. Same for the Bills with Barnett.

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Michael Neelsen's picture

August 06, 2011 at 08:32 pm

As a matter of fact, scroll down to the bottom of the page and you read user gbslapshot say:

"OK guys, relax a little bit. I heard Mark Murphy talking to talk radio at about 3pm today and he said that the Packers have invited everyone that is not with another team and have offered to pay for them to go to the White House."

Where did you hear that they weren't invited?

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Chuck's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:35 pm

Nobody said life is fair

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PackerAaron's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:53 pm

Including me.

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PackersThad's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:36 pm

Good God, I agree with this so much...

Decisions that you would think are a no brainer, the Packers screw up!

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PackerHQ's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:37 pm

While I agree with Aaron from a sentimental point of view the fact is that it's not practical to invite some of these players.

Case in Point Brandon Jackson, Cullen Jenkins and Daryn Colledge.

There is no way...none that there new team lets them go to the White House for this. I can't blame them and can't see any issue in TT not inviting them.

In a normal year this trip was made months ago before camp. With camp in session and the strange and bizarre start to our season I have to just call this an odd situation that would not have otherwise occurred.
I think we all owe TT the benefit of the doubt...don"t you ?

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Chad Toporski's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:42 pm

When it comes to PR, it's the thought that counts. Even if the teams wouldn't let them, then put that on THEIR shoulders. Then at least people can be irked by another team instead of their own.

If you know there's no chance of them going, then what's the harm in making the gesture?

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Chris K's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:08 pm

I think Tedx hit it on the head when he said logistically... What ar the EX players supposed to fly here first or fly to Washington then meet up with Geen Bay teammates then go get screened to meet the president???

I've met the guy while in the military and you WOULDN'T believe how many hours(like 8) I had to stand there for a FEW others besides myself to get screened. The team said it has employees as well going that would equal around 170! Its not logistical-plain and simple! There is no way the Eagles or Cleveland or Arizone is going to give those players up for the actual time it would be necessary to meet up with GB then fly out there and get screened, be explained everything(do's and dont's) then take the our, eat dinner, screened again to ensure their are no posessions leaving that shouldn't be, and finally get back on a plane to make a red-eye flight to play their own preseason game in a couple hours!! Can we put this to rest?!?!???

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Chris K's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:10 pm

I meant to say 8 --eight hours for only a few people NOT smily face lol!

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Chris K's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:14 pm

This IS NOT "Oh let me make you feel good n send out an invitation"...... Thats not how Ted Plays bal an frankly I'm fine with it. Its not logistical.... ridiculous that soemone is offeded that TED already knows WONT happen!!!

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PackerAaron's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:54 pm

I don't care about other teams and what they do or do not do. I care about what the Packers do. They are supposed to be the class of the NFL. This decision is like school in the summer time: No class.

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PkrNboro's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:05 pm

You're NEVER going to get "credentialed" being HONEST !!!

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bogmon's picture

August 06, 2011 at 10:48 am

The lockout hosed this whole thing up. They would have made the visit much sooner in the spring if they would have been allowed and able. It's unfortunate for contributors like Jackson and Jenkins etc....but the scheduling nightmare right now makes it a prudent decision.

That being said...I believe that even if you "can't" or "don't want to" go to the party, well...it's still nice to be invited.

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Chad Toporski's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:40 pm

Agreed. At the very least an invitation should have been sent out. Like you said, if a player can't go, it's then either on them or their new team (if they have one).

I'm sure some players wouldn't even mind paying for the trip out of pocket.

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ppabich's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:59 pm

+1

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Michael Neelsen's picture

August 06, 2011 at 08:20 pm

How do you know an invitation wasn't sent out? I know Aaron is saying invitations weren't sent out, but I don't see any sources that say that.

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Chad Toporski's picture

August 07, 2011 at 07:30 am

It's pretty much implied in what Mark Tauscher said.

Straight from the horse's mouth.

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Michael Neelsen's picture

August 07, 2011 at 02:03 pm

You want to hear straight from the horse's mouth, check out gbslapshot's comment at the bottom of the thread where he says:

"OK guys, relax a little bit. I heard Mark Murphy talking to talk radio at about 3pm today and he said that the Packers have invited everyone that is not with another team and have offered to pay for them to go to the White House."

It's very easy to react emotionally to something that sounds or seems to imply something... but we should really slow down and think this stuff through before we start pontificating about our feelings on a blog post.

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Bercovici's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:45 pm

Not inviting Tauscher blows my mind. It's one thing for the guys who are already on other teams. I'm not even sure that's right, but it's less wrong. But Tauscher? It's not an exaggeration to say Aaron Rodgers might not still be playing football if Tauscher hadn't come back in 2009 and put an end to the science experiment that was our pass protection. ("Abstract: An In-Vivo Investigation Into the Limits of Punishment-Absorption by Human Tissues.")

It might not be strictly fair, but I don't think anyone would have screamed if the Packers had issued some kind of statement saying "In light of Mark Tauscher's extraordinary contributions to the Green Bay Packers" etc. and made an exception for him.

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Brandon Jackson's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:53 pm

I don't think it's that big of a deal. In fact, I think it would be kind of awkward.

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MarkinMadison's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:17 pm

If they think its awkward, they can decline to attend. I bet most of them would be happy to see each other one more time. And to go to the White House.

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fishandcrane's picture

August 05, 2011 at 05:36 pm

Awkward is one of the spices of life. Being invited, even to turn it down, is a joy of life.

This too shall pass- but a shame for the guys who left that won't ever....EVER get a chance to go.

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Tarynfor 12's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:54 pm

I think it's more a slap in the face that they had to wait this long.Lockout or not,absolutely no reason why the Packers couldn't get permission for White House visit when some got it for a wedding.

Besides,hasn't it kind of lost the shine it should have garnered?

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lebowski's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:58 pm

What phone number can we call to deluge the front office with complaints?

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dougie smooth's picture

August 05, 2011 at 04:07 pm

920-569-7500

everyone should call and complain. this is bullshit.

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Jeremy's picture

August 05, 2011 at 01:59 pm

I don't get it either. What's the harm in telling former Packers that if they are in the hotel lobby the morning of, they are welcome to get on the bus?

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BubbaOne's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:05 pm

There may be an unwritten rule in the NFL, if you're on another team...you don't go.

But I'm w/ you the on unsigned guys; Tauscher, Chillar, Willhelm?, and Bigby. If you're in the lobby the morning of...

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Mark Mirra's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:07 pm

As much as I would love the Packers to have invited certain players that are not on the team right now, I understand why they didn't. TT said that this is a business trip (they are doing it right before a preseason game) so they can't invite as many people as they initially wanted. Only game day staff is allowed to go. Messed up? Yes. But it is understandable.

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hyperRevue's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:07 pm

Isn't it also true that the rookies will be going? Derek Sherrod gets to shake the President's hand but not Mark Tauscher?

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PackerAaron's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:08 pm

As I wrote:

<em> Packers rookies and first year players, who had nothing whatsoever to do with the Super Bowl victory, will be in attendance.</em>

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hyperRevue's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:11 pm

Pffff...you expect us to read EVERY word?

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PackersRS's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:34 pm

+1

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PkrNboro's picture

August 05, 2011 at 06:48 pm

lest you want to be yelled at in "italics"

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MarkinMadison's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:18 pm

Get to the back of the line $#%&amp; rookie.

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alexwoodsIAM's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:11 pm

This makes no sense to me. Didnt the players earn that right to meet the president. Seems like the packers are trying to be a cold faced team, and its starting to rub me the wrong way.

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Cole's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:15 pm

If the lockout hadn't of happened this wouldn't even be an issue. I blame that crook devil Goodell.

I wouldn't want to go to the whitehouse just to shake a Bears fans hand.

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Tyler's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:20 pm

If I was an ex-packer, it would feel like an empty invite to me. Yeah the thought is nice, but you know because of the circumstances that you wont be able to attend anyway

I also read that after the 96 SB, Ron Wolf didnt invite former players either. Maybe it was precedent

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robbie's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:24 pm

ok...yall just need to get over it in a typical offseason without a lockout they would have went a week or two after the SB, thats not what happend, its not practical, what where they supposed to do? track down every player that left the team and arrange flights for them? other teams would not have let the players leave anyways. who cares they got the rings right? so la vie

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Mojo's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:43 pm

The Packers should have invited the same group of people who ended up in the SB picture.

I know the MJS reported that Jerry Jones wished he hadn't after he allowed everyone to go after a Cowboy SB, but not bringing some of these former Packers seems odd to me.

It makes much more sense to bring the players who part of the SB team than newbies who had absolutely nothing to do with it.

There maybe awkward moments, but so be it. I have a feeling MM and players would have liked some of these former Packers there but TT nixed it.

Considering how well the Pack often treat former alums this doesn't make sense to me.

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Packnic's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:55 pm

Who cares? seriously? I haven't heard one word about it besides from Jarret Bush, who IS getting to go.

The other guys have moved on. Brandon Jackson is a Cleveland Brown right now. He is trying to win a championship with Cleveland (a futile effort it may be) He has the hardware. The ring and the ceremony have already taken place. He got what he came for and now he is on to the new objective. Why would he need to stand on a stage for a photo op for something his former team accomplished a half year ago?

I for one am glad that the Packers are run as a football team instead of a public relations office. Let Jerry Jones worry about the photo op's, Thompson can keep on winning rings.

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PackerAaron's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:59 pm

"Who cares?"

I do.

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Mojo's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:12 pm

I guess quite a few fans cared after SBXXXI per this JS report: "Thompson might have made his decision based on the Packers' last visit to the White House following Super Bowl XXXI. Then-general manager Ron Wolf did not invite players who had left in free agency or had been let go.

The decision caused an enormous uproar. The Journal Sentinel received 3,500 email messages on the subject, 85% of which opposed the team's omissions."

Sorry but PR is important to organizations including football teams. If running a football team didn't include PR than why this recent headline; "Packers name Jason Wahlers director of public relations"?

Bottom line how people treat each other is very important to most of us.

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PkrNboro's picture

August 05, 2011 at 02:58 pm

Odd are the White House thing is a pretty weird affair... guys running around in dark glasses, talking into their cuffs.

I can imagine there's a Secret Service briefing first; probably goes something like this:
(1) Three of you have been selected to shake hands with the president -- standard clasp, one pump, let go immediately.
(2) Additionally, one of you has been selected to have a Presidential backslap.
(3) The rest of you -- DO NOT TOUCH THE PRESIDENT.
(4) A complimentary button awaits your departure.
(5) Please be on the bus, in your assigned seat, within 60 seconds after photographers are removed.

Enjoy your day !!

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Chris K's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:21 pm

IT IS!!! Its not worth the time to meet the guy! I was in the Navy and when we were finally done getting screened for alittle over 8 hours(!) we were instructd what we could &amp; what we could NOT say or ask him!

They were cutting military pay and when he came to visit us overseas someone asked anyways!! haha, they were immeiately yanked out of the room in the midst of a sall crowd and punished per the military--of course, it was not a reasonable punishment b/c they were going to be made aware of the punishment.... Its lame, Charles Woodson will have about 3 sentences with him if he's lucky!

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ppabich's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:08 pm

I love being a Packers fan this season, nothing but "first world problems." Other teams have QB controversies, they're running around signing free agents, worried about new playbooks and coaches, have chemistry issues, etc.

For us it's: who is going to meet the President, and how is Aaron going to spread the ball to all his receivers.

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drinking jim crow's picture

August 05, 2011 at 04:31 pm

/thread

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lars's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:14 pm

Geez, here we go again with the victim narrative. Stop the whining and give it a rest. Really, who cares of Justin Harrel and Nick Barnett get to partake of the photo opp. at 1600 Pennsylvania ave.?

Though, I think it would have been appropriate to bring Tauscher along since he's still w/the team in a supportive capacity.

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CSS's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:16 pm

"Though, I think it would have been appropriate to bring Tauscher along since he’s still w/the team in a supportive capacity."

He is???? Where is that written/stated?

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PackerAaron's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:20 pm

He was. He is not any more.

And meeting the President of the United States is more than a photo op.

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bomdad's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:19 pm

I'll take your tickets at face value if your truly upset with this.

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PackerAaron's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:30 pm

Where did I say I was upset? I said it was wrong.

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FITZCORE1252&#039;s EVO's picture

August 05, 2011 at 04:08 pm

+1. Face + %.10 from this guy.

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Yope's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:20 pm

Sorry but this is just a formality, the Packers aren't going to extend niceties for the sake of it. It's just a trip to the Whitehouse, afterwards you still have to lace up and play (the important bit). I think a bit of perspective is needed here for heavens sake.

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Chris K's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:24 pm

AGREED 100%. Its quite ridiculous and honestly I would not be surprised if someone from the team talked to Jarret Bush about his spouting off

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PackerAaron's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:27 pm

Yope, you have a funny idea of "perspective"

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Yope's picture

August 05, 2011 at 04:52 pm

Why? because I view football and 'the repeat' as more important... sorry but this is a non issue to me.

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PackersRS's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:41 pm

Really, people? If Aaron disagrees with you, you call him a whiner? What are you, 13?

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Nononsense's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:42 pm

No big deal to me, I blame the lock out. Taking the Packers brass to task for this decision is lame.

How many other teams after winning the SB had to wait till after training camp started to go to the White House?

Sorry to break it to you but the Packers org is not perfect no matter how much you want them to be. Carefully step down off your high horse.

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CSS's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:47 pm

It's a bigger issue of PR to me. The department exists for a reason and either it's incompetent or not utilized to make informed decisions. This is purely a PR event, and even if you don't want to invite former players or you believe they can't attend it's still the smart/diplomatic thing to extend the invitation.

This is a basic function in any high (even low) profile organization, and the current PR (which I believe is now new) is dropping the ball.

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PackerAaron's picture

August 05, 2011 at 03:47 pm

"Carefully step down off your high horse."

Will do, shortly after you carefully learn how to read.

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FITZCORE1252&#039;s EVO's picture

August 05, 2011 at 04:10 pm

Zing!!!!

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Nononsense's picture

August 06, 2011 at 03:01 am

Sensitive are we?

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Church's picture

August 06, 2011 at 12:36 pm

+1 to Nononsense

Sensitive much Aaron? Still crying that Josh Bell didn't get a ring?

Too many folks have this belief that the Packers are the only ones that do this. The Pack do a lot more right than wrong (and I don't think they're wrong here) than most organizations and I'm sure other players didn't get to attend with their former team than they won.

If Bob Harlan and Ron Wolf can do it, so can TT.

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PackerAaron's picture

August 06, 2011 at 12:42 pm

Um, I wrote Bell wouldn't get a ring. His agent was the one that was upset.

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dougie smooth's picture

August 05, 2011 at 04:14 pm

The sad thing is there is probably a good explanation for why the logistics don't work out. All they had to do was either extend a token invitation, or explain publicly why it won't work. That's what PR people are for. Now fans and players are bitching and you haven't heard peep from the Packers. Their' PR department is the absolute worst mess, it's downright embarrassing to me as a fan. The fact that this or the Superbowl team picture issues even need to be debated by anyone is evidence of how bad their PR department is. Both were easy to see coming a mile away and could have been defused well before a messy public uproar forced their hand. Pathetic.

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Ken's picture

August 05, 2011 at 04:18 pm

It's as if the organization is getting punished for the more success it attains.

I thoroughly disagreed with the hissy fit over the injured players in team photo business.

But I do agree with you here, Aaron. There's no reason Tauscher shouldn't have been invited.

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fishandcrane's picture

August 05, 2011 at 05:39 pm

He could pass security at least.

And more importantly, who is up for this same argument next year? I AM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Johnny's picture

August 05, 2011 at 05:36 pm

Read all the comments, seems the real Packer fans and the bandwagon fans are having a little tiff here. This isn't about logistics or whether or not the ex players could attend or not. This is simply about doing the right thing. If your truly a fan, you care about the public perception of your team. Plain and simple. If you don't care or it don't bug you how your team is perceived, become a Cowboy fan for shit sakes.

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PackersRS's picture

August 05, 2011 at 06:29 pm

Well, it's official. It has hit Favrian levels. "real" Packer fans? Puhlease. And this coming from a guy that thinks the Packers did wrong and should have thought better about PR.

But there should be no true or bandwagon Packer fans. What defines a true Packer fan is if he cheers for the Packers at all times, when the squad hits the field.

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Common Knowledge's picture

August 05, 2011 at 06:41 pm

I agree.

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Common Knowledge's picture

August 05, 2011 at 06:22 pm

I have to disagree, I do not think it is wrong. It is too much trouble to contact and arrange for players to meet up with the team for the trip. He is doing the right thing in concentrating on the players that are on the team currently. This is an effect of the lock out and not a PR thing. If the lock out did not take as long as it did, they would have had much time as a team to visit but it is what it is.

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asshalo's picture

August 05, 2011 at 06:43 pm

Honestly, it's really hard for me to care about this. That said, I do agree that the offer should have been made to players that haven't landed on new teams yet. For the players that are on new teams, that's where I draw the line. It's nothing personal, but the obligation stops when you're working for the competition.

Also, I wonder what role the lock-out played in this. I know the saints went a little later last year, but I have to believe they would have went a little earlier had the lock-out not taken place-- then again, free agency would have been earlier too.

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Johnny's picture

August 05, 2011 at 06:43 pm

Been cheering for them since 1960 RS. Through the good and the bad. Very bad at times. I remember cheering when our Packers made a first down and didn't go backwards. Remember Taggy Time? So if I follow your logic, I'm not a fan because I think they may be a little mixed up in the PR dept? Interesting to say the least. Look, if you disagree with my take on this it's your choice. No harm no foul, but at least you have a choice.

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PackersRS's picture

August 05, 2011 at 06:47 pm

"So if I follow your logic, I’m not a fan because I think they may be a little mixed up in the PR dept?"

Where, oh where did you take that from what I said? In fact, I explicitly said I also think they effed up in this.

I don't disagree with you on this subject. I disagree on labeling someone a bandwagoner if they disagree with you, and with me for that matter.

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chuck c's picture

August 05, 2011 at 06:56 pm

It's an Obamanation!!! Cold Cold business.

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James's picture

August 05, 2011 at 07:20 pm

Isn't there a rule against management talking to other teams players, especially if it's to invite the player to one of your teams functions?

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Big Mikey's picture

August 05, 2011 at 08:38 pm

And it sure would be nice if Ted could arrange for President Obama to personally present Josh Bell with his Superbowl ring.

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Jmac34's picture

August 05, 2011 at 08:41 pm

I think a lot this has to do with the timing of the trip. The Packers have a preseason game the next night and my guess is they don't want to deal with players who are no longer on the team.

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Matt's picture

August 05, 2011 at 09:14 pm

LIKE

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Matt's picture

August 05, 2011 at 09:13 pm

alright guys, we just got invited to the white house. lets get our team together, go to DC, claim our last little reward for winning the super bowl and get the hell outta there so we can focus on whats really important. MEETING THE PRESIDENT NEXT YEAR. the packers dont have time to make sure no ones heart got broken cuz they didn't meet the president.

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BrianD's picture

August 05, 2011 at 09:40 pm

We don't know the terms and conditions the White House gave the Packers organization as to who they can all invite. For all we know, the Packers cannot invite anybody outside their own organization. I'd also like to see info regarding the past 30 or so champions and whether or not they invited players no longer under contract in their organization. Until I see factual information, I won't jump to a conclusion to judge the Packers organization (and I certainly wouldn't write an article about it if I were a blogger without gathering all the proper information).

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Ruppert's picture

August 05, 2011 at 10:27 pm

It's not wrong. It's not even important. Give me a break. This looks like an excuse to rip the Packers organization where none really exists, to me. Pipe down about ripping the team. This is ridiculous.

If anybody deserves blame, it's the parties responsible for the lockout. The lockout caused the trip to be pushed back. I'll blame De Smith and Goodell...equally.

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gbslapshot's picture

August 05, 2011 at 10:49 pm

OK guys, relax a little bit. I heard Mark Murphy talking to talk radio at about 3pm today and he said that the Packers have invited everyone that is not with another team and have offered to pay for them to go to the White House.

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gbslapshot's picture

August 05, 2011 at 10:53 pm

It was on 97.5 green bay radio.

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fishandcrane's picture

August 06, 2011 at 08:54 am

ahhh...leave it to the Packers to fix another problem. Could use some of that in Chicago.

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CaLIPACKFAN's picture

August 05, 2011 at 11:40 pm

This happens in other sports too for example when the PUMAS won the mexican soccer tournament they visited Felipe Calderon without some of the players that were part of the champion team that went to other mexican teams.

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Juice Maloose's picture

August 06, 2011 at 10:38 am

To me, this seems to be an example of fans getting too emotionally invested in a team &amp; its players and subsequently holding them to an overly high standard. Time and time again, the Packers make decisions just like any corporation would, but because their fans view them more like an extended family rather than a business, many are offended. This happened in 1997 with the White House visit, it happened when Brett Favre wasn't allowed to return, and it's happening now.

As much as we'd like to think of our beloved Packers as a tight knit family first and a business second, we know it's not true. The Packers are a business, period. That's why Tauscher is on the street and not currently a part of the organization (not to say that he won't be in the future).

Let's say that Packers, Inc. wasn't a football team, but were instead a corporation in some other field. In 2010, they were the leaders in their industry and had their best year in over a decade.

The following year, the staff is invited to the state capitol by the governor for a celebration of their success &amp; their contribution to their community. Due to circumstances beyond their control, the trip is delayed till mid-summer. In the mean time, a handful of employees have left for other jobs with competitors, and some have been terminated (even a well-liked one with a long tenure). New employees have been brought in.

Would you honestly expect a company in this situation to invite all of these former employees on the trip? For that matter, would it be unreasonable for the new employees to participate?

Sure, inviting all of the ex-players to meet the POTUS be a nice PR gesture. Is it a bit disappointing that Tausch won't be there? Yeah. But overall, this whole thing doesn't upset me enough to think that an article like this is necessary. Obviously some of my fellow Packers fans feel otherwise.

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BrianD's picture

August 06, 2011 at 04:21 pm

Incredible post. You've added a new perspective to counter Aaron's argument that I fully agree with. Great analogy about the way businesses are run too.

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Ruppert's picture

August 07, 2011 at 12:03 am

Perfect.

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Yope's picture

August 06, 2011 at 11:16 am

Love the fact one of the tags is: Packer People my ass... That's real funny!

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Andrew's picture

August 06, 2011 at 12:18 pm

Can't believe I made all the way through to the end of this truly embarrassing article. In the absense of drama, Arron, you have created some. Women do this shit all the time to get attention no matter if it's positive or negative. This is a non-issue. The lockout created this. Just getting this trip together had to be a logistical nightmare. Reacting so irrationally to something you most definitely do not have all the information to makes me question your journalism skills. I saw your video of the Harrell pick, and it gives a little insight to your passion for the Packers( which I respect), however, it reveals much more than that. We all would love for a perfect situation in this matter. That does not exist. Get over it. We all love this sight, but don't turn your reporting into some kind of New York-Philly kind of negative-second guessing everything circus!

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PackersRS's picture

August 06, 2011 at 12:26 pm

It's not his video. It's not him on the video. Read everything before you talk.

This is what I'm talking about, the ridicule of some Packers fans. Jump to conclusion and personally attack anyone that disagrees with them, calling them "women" or "whiners" etc...

Grow up people. You're embarassing the fanbase. At least act like educated, civilized adults. This is not the JSO comment section...

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Andrew's picture

August 06, 2011 at 01:02 pm

My bad, all the "I" references distracted me. Missed the "Slater" part at the end. Sorry. Still doesn't change how irrational this article is. I did not call Aaron a "woman". I compared the creation of drama in this "article" to women creating drama. Twisting people's words to fit your argument is a little ladylike wouldn't you say? Apparently you can insult me as "uneducated" without knowing anything about me, yet I fully admit I made a mistake on my last post. Throw a little of that embarrassment back at yourself there bud.

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Juice Maloose's picture

August 06, 2011 at 01:15 pm

You don't have a very high opinion of women, do you?

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PackersRS's picture

August 07, 2011 at 05:54 pm

So... not only you behave like an infant, but also like a sexist?

(see, didn't call you a kid or a sexist. Two can play this stupid, childish semantics game)

As I said before: grow up.

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Andrew's picture

August 08, 2011 at 02:44 pm

Typical liberal bullshit. Pointing out very real characteristics makes me sexist? It's a shame that you feel so sensitive that you can't think for yourself. Insulating yourself from the real world with feel good thoughts gets you nowhere. Show some balls and have an original thought.

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Andrew's picture

August 08, 2011 at 02:47 pm

See how I didn't say "a sexist"?

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Yope's picture

August 06, 2011 at 01:14 pm

Best. Comments. Ever

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Andrew's picture

August 06, 2011 at 01:28 pm

Love women. Happen to observe very real traits most women possess. Seriously, am I wrong? Is your wife or girlfriend watching over your shoulder?

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Jordan's picture

August 06, 2011 at 03:03 pm

Andrew,
You are not wrong. You took the words right out of my mouth in your post.

Glad to see that there are educated, rational packer fans out there such as yourself that can think on their own.

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Andrew's picture

August 07, 2011 at 02:31 pm

Thanks Jordan.

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CSS's picture

August 06, 2011 at 04:03 pm

The reading comprehension in this thread is simply painful.

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fishandcrane's picture

August 07, 2011 at 10:38 am

amen. All increase reading compression, so we are ready for this again next year.

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PackersRS's picture

August 07, 2011 at 05:55 pm

This.

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Jake-B's picture

August 06, 2011 at 11:40 pm

Did anyone read gbslapshot say that Mark Murphy said on the radio that he sent an invite to everyone that they can go to the white house Current and Ex-Players.

Arron please cite some credible source saying they wernt invited.

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Michael Neelsen's picture

August 07, 2011 at 01:55 pm

Exactly.

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PackerAaron's picture

August 07, 2011 at 05:28 pm

Jake-B:

If Murphy has indeed sent those invites (I have called the Packers but have yet to hear back) it is only after/because of the public pushback.

I was told by two now ex-Packers.

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Andrew's picture

August 07, 2011 at 12:17 pm

I know I was lazy in my overview of the video article. That was wrong. Sorry Aaron. First sight I go to daily for Packer info. Love it. Stay positive until it's warranted people. Go Pack Go!

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dgtalmn's picture

August 08, 2011 at 08:14 am

DOn't you just hate it when your old employer gives you the cold shoulder.

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mark's picture

August 08, 2011 at 04:39 pm

I agree, this is lame. Classy comment by Tausch though.

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