Mike's Best & Worst Week 13 New England Patriots
Our weekly video segment, breaking down the best and worst from McCarthy in Week 13.
By coreyb
Welcome to our weekly video segment "Mike's Best and Worst" where I take a quick look at the best and worst things McCarthy did on game day.
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Comments (48)
zoellner25
December 01, 2014 at 02:24 pm
MM's other best = replacing Hawk with Barrington.
LASVEGAS-TOM
December 01, 2014 at 02:48 pm
I Agree 100%. It's about time. The Defense is Much Better without Hawk in there.. I've been saying it for 3 years.
I must say, As much as I liked James Jones & wanted to keep him, & STLL WISH he were on this team, Devante Adams has filled in Admirably. I'm still a James Jones fan, but I believe Devante Adams in time, will be a Great Player. LVT
DrealynWilliams
December 01, 2014 at 04:26 pm
He looks more like Greg Jennings to me. I think Adams is going to be awesome.
MarkinMadison
December 01, 2014 at 09:47 pm
He is 2" taller on paper, about a 1/2 foot taller in real life, compared to Greg Jennings. My sister-in-law tells me she is eye level with him when he wears his styling boots with heels.
DrealynWilliams
December 02, 2014 at 07:57 am
I meant as far as his movement and route running, sorry.
Pack12
December 01, 2014 at 02:53 pm
Do I dare say it? Mike McCarthy out coached Bill Belichick. It's time that Packer fans realize just how good of a coach MM is. Belichick does not seek out the opposing coach after a game, specially after a loss and has a conversation with him. MM gained BB's respect yesterday. It's time for all Packer fans to give MM his due as one of the elite coaches in the NFL.
jeremyjjbrown
December 01, 2014 at 05:13 pm
It's the second time he's done it. But the last time Matt Flynn's limitations and a bad defense were too much to overcome.
Bearmeat
December 01, 2014 at 05:26 pm
Agreed on Flynn's limitations, but If by "bad defense" you mean a 71 yard KOR by Dan Connolly and a missed pick 6 by Woody, then we're agreed. GB's D was AWESOME in the latter half of 2010.
I was at that game in Foxboro in person. GB should have won it - they were the better team even without Rodgers.
jeremyjjbrown
December 01, 2014 at 09:32 pm
Yeah, that's what I "meant" :)
NickPerry
December 03, 2014 at 05:44 am
That Dan Connolly play, it still pisses me off! The defense played great, held NE to like 250 total yards. Flynn had the Packers down to the Pats 11 yard line after a completion and just ran out of time trying to get a play in. They should have had 2 plays called but didn't.
MarkinMadison
December 01, 2014 at 09:49 pm
There was a good scheme and a lot of good adjustments last night. He definitely put the Packers in a position to win.
pacman
December 01, 2014 at 03:16 pm
Everyone is happy but I think this win is more of an AR outplaying Brady story than MM out-coaching Belichek. For MM to get full credit, we would have to have scored TD's in the red zone. Brady did not play his best but was that due to Packer pressure? Maybe that's why Brady was swearing his head off!
Evan
December 01, 2014 at 03:24 pm
For MM to get full credit, Adams needs to have not dropped a sure TD and Rodgers needs to have not overthrown an open Cobb in the first quarter?
Doesn't seem fair.
DrealynWilliams
December 01, 2014 at 04:24 pm
Yea, you lost me on this one, Pacman. MM & Capers did A HELL OF A JOB coaching that game. We have to start giving them credit when it comes to signature wins like this.
pacman
December 02, 2014 at 08:24 am
As I was writing that post I was second guessing myself but then turned back. Clearly the defense has been taught to work the new schemes. And clearly some of the offensive sets worked well. It's not like they did a bad or even mediocre job. They did a very good job - finally. But without Rodgers making those pinpoint accurate throws, it all goes for naught. He is just unbelievable. I was watching with a Miami fan and he was just astounded. The only negative about the game, and all agree, was the red zone performance. 4x! You have to give the Pats credit but 4x? This was the Pats calling card - their version of bend but don't break. And we didn't have an answer for that. I would give Capers a better mark than MM for pulling the D together.
It's hard to separate coaching from playing. Coaching good players make you look good. In this modern game, having Rodgers starts you as a 'good' coach. You've got to do something really special to be great. Many on this site have been all over MM coaching abilities. I just didn't see enough yesterday to remove all that.
Idiot Fan
December 01, 2014 at 03:22 pm
Totally random comment - that last throw by Rodgers to Cobb to get the first down is Exhibit A for why that analysis done on fivethirtyeight.com about Rodgers being too conservative late, based on various spreadsheet statistics, is fatally flawed.
DrealynWilliams
December 01, 2014 at 04:20 pm
Ha. Conservative? Aaron Rodgers? Ha!
jeremyjjbrown
December 01, 2014 at 05:15 pm
Rodgers picks his spots to take calculated risks. That's one of his best qualities.
Samson
December 01, 2014 at 04:37 pm
Please stop it.
Just because the Pack defeat a good team at home, suddenly MM is an elite HC. --- He's an average HC with an elite OB (AR). All elite OBs carry their HCs. Check out the history books.
jeremyjjbrown
December 01, 2014 at 05:18 pm
He may not be elite but he is certainly better than average. Nobody wanted Rodgers, MM helped make him the player he is today.
PackerAaron
December 01, 2014 at 06:50 pm
Enjoy Samson:
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/12/01/mike-mccarthy-green-bay-packers/
HankScorpio
December 01, 2014 at 06:58 pm
Beat me to it, Aaron. That's why you're a pro...
lucky953
December 01, 2014 at 08:48 pm
Amen! Great piece. Thanks.
Samson
December 01, 2014 at 11:08 pm
packeraaron
Funny you chose SI. --- The same publication that strongly suggested the ONLY way the Packers were going to survive in the NFL was move from Green Bay to Milwaukee. --- Do you know your history ?? --- Look it up.
zeke
December 01, 2014 at 10:35 pm
That was a Frank Deford article from 30 years ago, no? I wonder if he still holds that opinion.
HankScorpio
December 01, 2014 at 07:49 pm
Whatever McCarthy is, there is certainly nothing sudden about it.
4thand1
December 01, 2014 at 09:39 pm
No matter how many playoff appearances or titles the Packers win, there'll always be haters. Like they could have done better. Take a look at the NFCN, how many coaches have there been since the MM era alone?
Samson
December 01, 2014 at 10:40 pm
Obviously you're content to gauge the Packers in comparison to the patsies. (Lions, Bears, Vikings)
The Pack are 1-3 in the last 3 seasons in the playoffs. ---- Sounds like you'd be fine with 1-4 after this year.
I'm not. - Neither are the Pack.
HankScorpio
December 02, 2014 at 06:28 am
Boy, you sure stomped the heck out of the strawman you created. Nicely done, Samson.
Samson
December 02, 2014 at 09:44 am
You don't even know or understand the straw man (it's actually two words) argument.------ Most people bring it up only because they are too lazy to string together some kind of real, cohesive refute.
HankScorpio
December 02, 2014 at 06:45 pm
So I misspeled a word? I feal shame. I will go sit in the korner.
Evan
December 01, 2014 at 09:58 pm
Everyone knows Hall of Fame QBs materialize out of thin air, fully formed. Nope, no coaching involved at all.
zeke
December 01, 2014 at 11:05 pm
Which is why they are always the first pick in the draft, whichever year they come out of college. A child can see this.
Samson
December 01, 2014 at 11:25 pm
Try this question.
Who's better at their job? The HOF QB or the HC who coaches the HOF QB?
Even better.
How many HCs who have coached HOF QBs are also in the HOF?
The best.
BF is a guaranteed HOF inductee. AR is very, very close. ---- What are MM's chances? ---- Be honest.
zeke
December 02, 2014 at 01:13 am
Apples and oranges regarding who is better at their job (but a quick look at the HoF web site says there are 23 "modern era" QBs in the HoF, and 22 HCs. Probably a lot of overlap, but it still wouldn't answer the question of who is responsible for the other's success).
If GB wins another SB or two, I'd say a pretty good chance for McCarthy getting in.
There. I was honest.
Samson
December 02, 2014 at 09:49 am
Apples & oranges ??
Who's decided this? ---- You?---- It's much easier to make your case when you are also declaring what the rules are. ---- Except it doesn't work that way. ---- Try again.
zeke
December 02, 2014 at 10:03 am
Logic decided it. Who was better at their job: Vince Lombardi or Joe Montana?
Samson
December 02, 2014 at 01:05 pm
Your logic, right??
zeke
December 02, 2014 at 07:12 pm
Why so hostile, internet tough guy? It's just a conversation about a game.
zeke
December 02, 2014 at 07:13 pm
Why so hostile, internet tough guy? It's just a conversation about a game.
4thand1
December 02, 2014 at 07:25 pm
We've just discovered skip cowless's room mate. ding, ding, ding!!!!!!
4thand1
December 01, 2014 at 10:05 pm
Packers open the week 11.5 favorites. That's huge.
Thegreatreynoldo
December 02, 2014 at 01:28 am
Kudos to you, Mr. Nagler, for calling yourself out regarding MM. It can be a hard thing to do. This is my mea culpa as well. I never was a MM hater, having ranked him as a well above average HC. Now I would rank MM as a very good coach. I will continue to point out any flaws I perceive (stubbornness, excessive loyalty, failure to adjust sometimes). If MM continues to have more excellent game plans and personnel management, then the discussion might turn to whether MM is a great coach. Go Pack!
Packer_Pete
December 02, 2014 at 06:38 am
I'm with you there. Never thought that MM is a great coach. But his play-calling lately and especially utilization of personnel is superb. He obviously learned. May still be stubborn, but he learned. No problem on my part to say I was wrong about MM.
Lphill
December 02, 2014 at 05:46 pm
Are Samson and COW the same person?
4thand1
December 02, 2014 at 07:26 pm
I think they're lovers.
Packer_Pete
December 02, 2014 at 08:21 pm
or 1st cousins. down in rural Tennessee somewhere.
Packer_Pete
December 02, 2014 at 09:01 pm
Here's an interesting take from Mike Martz:
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/12/02/nfl-mike-martz-adam-gase-mike-mccoy-mike-m...
The most interesting to me is the following take on Cobb, when Martz was still in Chicago (remember that failed experiment, trying to change bad Jay...), and wanted the Bears to draft Cobb:
"Says Martz, “I tried to get Chicago to draft him, but they said, ‘No. Too little, not really a receiver.’ ”"
Now they have decent receivers down there, but imagine the 2 huge WRs and the TE, and then Cobb as the 3rd WR... Would be the best 3 WR - TE combination in the league... But then again, glad they didn't pull the trigger.