Mike's Best & Worst Week 13 New England Patriots

Our weekly video segment, breaking down the best and worst from McCarthy in Week 13.

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zoellner25's picture

December 01, 2014 at 02:24 pm

MM's other best = replacing Hawk with Barrington.

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LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

December 01, 2014 at 02:48 pm

I Agree 100%. It's about time. The Defense is Much Better without Hawk in there.. I've been saying it for 3 years.

I must say, As much as I liked James Jones & wanted to keep him, & STLL WISH he were on this team, Devante Adams has filled in Admirably. I'm still a James Jones fan, but I believe Devante Adams in time, will be a Great Player. LVT

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DrealynWilliams's picture

December 01, 2014 at 04:26 pm

He looks more like Greg Jennings to me. I think Adams is going to be awesome.

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MarkinMadison's picture

December 01, 2014 at 09:47 pm

He is 2" taller on paper, about a 1/2 foot taller in real life, compared to Greg Jennings. My sister-in-law tells me she is eye level with him when he wears his styling boots with heels.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

December 02, 2014 at 07:57 am

I meant as far as his movement and route running, sorry.

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Pack12's picture

December 01, 2014 at 02:53 pm

Do I dare say it? Mike McCarthy out coached Bill Belichick. It's time that Packer fans realize just how good of a coach MM is. Belichick does not seek out the opposing coach after a game, specially after a loss and has a conversation with him. MM gained BB's respect yesterday. It's time for all Packer fans to give MM his due as one of the elite coaches in the NFL.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 01, 2014 at 05:13 pm

It's the second time he's done it. But the last time Matt Flynn's limitations and a bad defense were too much to overcome.

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Bearmeat's picture

December 01, 2014 at 05:26 pm

Agreed on Flynn's limitations, but If by "bad defense" you mean a 71 yard KOR by Dan Connolly and a missed pick 6 by Woody, then we're agreed. GB's D was AWESOME in the latter half of 2010.

I was at that game in Foxboro in person. GB should have won it - they were the better team even without Rodgers.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 01, 2014 at 09:32 pm

Yeah, that's what I "meant" :)

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Nick Perry's picture

December 03, 2014 at 05:44 am

That Dan Connolly play, it still pisses me off! The defense played great, held NE to like 250 total yards. Flynn had the Packers down to the Pats 11 yard line after a completion and just ran out of time trying to get a play in. They should have had 2 plays called but didn't.

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MarkinMadison's picture

December 01, 2014 at 09:49 pm

There was a good scheme and a lot of good adjustments last night. He definitely put the Packers in a position to win.

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pacman's picture

December 01, 2014 at 03:16 pm

Everyone is happy but I think this win is more of an AR outplaying Brady story than MM out-coaching Belichek. For MM to get full credit, we would have to have scored TD's in the red zone. Brady did not play his best but was that due to Packer pressure? Maybe that's why Brady was swearing his head off!

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Evan's picture

December 01, 2014 at 03:24 pm

For MM to get full credit, Adams needs to have not dropped a sure TD and Rodgers needs to have not overthrown an open Cobb in the first quarter?

Doesn't seem fair.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

December 01, 2014 at 04:24 pm

Yea, you lost me on this one, Pacman. MM & Capers did A HELL OF A JOB coaching that game. We have to start giving them credit when it comes to signature wins like this.

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pacman's picture

December 02, 2014 at 08:24 am

As I was writing that post I was second guessing myself but then turned back. Clearly the defense has been taught to work the new schemes. And clearly some of the offensive sets worked well. It's not like they did a bad or even mediocre job. They did a very good job - finally. But without Rodgers making those pinpoint accurate throws, it all goes for naught. He is just unbelievable. I was watching with a Miami fan and he was just astounded. The only negative about the game, and all agree, was the red zone performance. 4x! You have to give the Pats credit but 4x? This was the Pats calling card - their version of bend but don't break. And we didn't have an answer for that. I would give Capers a better mark than MM for pulling the D together.

It's hard to separate coaching from playing. Coaching good players make you look good. In this modern game, having Rodgers starts you as a 'good' coach. You've got to do something really special to be great. Many on this site have been all over MM coaching abilities. I just didn't see enough yesterday to remove all that.

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Idiot Fan's picture

December 01, 2014 at 03:22 pm

Totally random comment - that last throw by Rodgers to Cobb to get the first down is Exhibit A for why that analysis done on fivethirtyeight.com about Rodgers being too conservative late, based on various spreadsheet statistics, is fatally flawed.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

December 01, 2014 at 04:20 pm

Ha. Conservative? Aaron Rodgers? Ha!

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 01, 2014 at 05:15 pm

Rodgers picks his spots to take calculated risks. That's one of his best qualities.

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Samson's picture

December 01, 2014 at 04:37 pm

Please stop it.
Just because the Pack defeat a good team at home, suddenly MM is an elite HC. --- He's an average HC with an elite OB (AR). All elite OBs carry their HCs. Check out the history books.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 01, 2014 at 05:18 pm

He may not be elite but he is certainly better than average. Nobody wanted Rodgers, MM helped make him the player he is today.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 01, 2014 at 06:58 pm

Beat me to it, Aaron. That's why you're a pro...

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lucky953's picture

December 01, 2014 at 08:48 pm

Amen! Great piece. Thanks.

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Samson's picture

December 01, 2014 at 11:08 pm

packeraaron
Funny you chose SI. --- The same publication that strongly suggested the ONLY way the Packers were going to survive in the NFL was move from Green Bay to Milwaukee. --- Do you know your history ?? --- Look it up.

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zeke's picture

December 01, 2014 at 10:35 pm

That was a Frank Deford article from 30 years ago, no? I wonder if he still holds that opinion.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 01, 2014 at 07:49 pm

Whatever McCarthy is, there is certainly nothing sudden about it.

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4thand1's picture

December 01, 2014 at 09:40 pm

Samson is the new cow.

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Samson's picture

December 01, 2014 at 10:33 pm

That's hilarious. ----BF was in his what, 14th or 15th year when he first met MM. AR was drafted as an All-American QB in the 1st round by TT before MM was ever hired by GB. Did MM play a part?? Of course.---- Were both BF & AR going to the HOF if MM had never coached them ? ---- Again. --- Of course.

Is that you again Stroh?
Aren't you banned?

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Samson's picture

December 01, 2014 at 10:43 pm

Everyone knows you're Stroh. --- You're only fooling yourself.

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Packer_Pete's picture

December 02, 2014 at 05:34 am

MM was BF's QB coach in 98. Just sayin...
I am not so sure about AR without MM. AR is elite, no doubt. Would he have been in the NFL without MM? Doubt it. Not vouching for MM here, but he played a big role in AR's development. Otherwise, he may have been another Tedford QB, great in college, not NFL caliber...

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LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

December 02, 2014 at 07:11 pm

I agree with Samson here (Doesn't matter to me, who he is). Brett Favre was a Quality QB long before MM came along. BF didn't particularly like MM, & didn't like TT at all. He stated "The 1st thing he did was hire my replacement" BF was a Great QB who gained confidence under Holmgren. He also had something a lot of Good QB's don't have. He seemed to have more than his share of luck. He could throw a pass 50 yards off a defenders back, & we'd wind up with it. He also knew how to get rid of the ball fast, & turn his back, to stay healthy. No one made BF but BF. I'll say this, I think BF became a Better QB than he ever was in his last years as a Packer. If you want to credit MM with that, So Be It. I think it was just a lot of BF experience playing with a really good team again.

I think for the most part, the same goes for AR. I think he learned a lot from watching BF, especially the roll left. AR is a Better QB at this point in his career than BF was. BF was Good, & Lucky. AR is just plain Good, & playing with over-all Better Teams with a couple of exceptions than BF did. BF proved that he could carry a mediocre team by himself. As good as AR is, I'm not sure he can do the same. I don't see where MM really has anything to do with AR's path to the HOF. AR is still the same Great QB he was when he came off the bench. Not sure AR agrees with MM on a lot of things. I don't see any MM influence on AR. He is what he is, Just plain Good, & sometimes Great!! I think we've all Under Estimated Him & His ability. I wish he would learn to get rid of the ball sooner, & turn his back like BF, but that's not his style. AR is without question a Great QB. I just don't think MM made him Great. AR has more of something than most other QB's. He has Natural Ability. All Great QB's have it, but AR has more of it. That can't be taught or learned. We've been more than fortunate here in GB, to have had 3 Great QB'S in a row. Yeah, I'll include Majakowski. I think he was better than he gets credit for. Enjoy the present. It will probably never happen again in your lifetime. I know it won't in mine.

Is MM a Quality Coach? Of coarse he is. His Record speaks for itself. Did he mold 2 HOF QB's?? I personally don't think so. JMO

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4thand1's picture

December 01, 2014 at 09:39 pm

No matter how many playoff appearances or titles the Packers win, there'll always be haters. Like they could have done better. Take a look at the NFCN, how many coaches have there been since the MM era alone?

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Samson's picture

December 01, 2014 at 10:40 pm

Obviously you're content to gauge the Packers in comparison to the patsies. (Lions, Bears, Vikings)

The Pack are 1-3 in the last 3 seasons in the playoffs. ---- Sounds like you'd be fine with 1-4 after this year.

I'm not. - Neither are the Pack.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 02, 2014 at 06:28 am

Boy, you sure stomped the heck out of the strawman you created. Nicely done, Samson.

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Samson's picture

December 02, 2014 at 09:44 am

You don't even know or understand the straw man (it's actually two words) argument.------ Most people bring it up only because they are too lazy to string together some kind of real, cohesive refute.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 02, 2014 at 06:45 pm

So I misspeled a word? I feal shame. I will go sit in the korner.

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Evan's picture

December 01, 2014 at 09:58 pm

Everyone knows Hall of Fame QBs materialize out of thin air, fully formed. Nope, no coaching involved at all.

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zeke's picture

December 01, 2014 at 11:05 pm

Which is why they are always the first pick in the draft, whichever year they come out of college. A child can see this.

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Samson's picture

December 01, 2014 at 11:25 pm

Try this question.
Who's better at their job? The HOF QB or the HC who coaches the HOF QB?

Even better.
How many HCs who have coached HOF QBs are also in the HOF?

The best.
BF is a guaranteed HOF inductee. AR is very, very close. ---- What are MM's chances? ---- Be honest.

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zeke's picture

December 02, 2014 at 01:13 am

Apples and oranges regarding who is better at their job (but a quick look at the HoF web site says there are 23 "modern era" QBs in the HoF, and 22 HCs. Probably a lot of overlap, but it still wouldn't answer the question of who is responsible for the other's success).

If GB wins another SB or two, I'd say a pretty good chance for McCarthy getting in.

There. I was honest.

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Samson's picture

December 02, 2014 at 09:49 am

Apples & oranges ??
Who's decided this? ---- You?---- It's much easier to make your case when you are also declaring what the rules are. ---- Except it doesn't work that way. ---- Try again.

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zeke's picture

December 02, 2014 at 10:03 am

Logic decided it. Who was better at their job: Vince Lombardi or Joe Montana?

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Samson's picture

December 02, 2014 at 01:05 pm

Your logic, right??

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zeke's picture

December 02, 2014 at 07:12 pm

Why so hostile, internet tough guy? It's just a conversation about a game.

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zeke's picture

December 02, 2014 at 07:13 pm

Why so hostile, internet tough guy? It's just a conversation about a game.

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4thand1's picture

December 02, 2014 at 07:25 pm

We've just discovered skip cowless's room mate. ding, ding, ding!!!!!!

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4thand1's picture

December 01, 2014 at 10:05 pm

Packers open the week 11.5 favorites. That's huge.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 02, 2014 at 01:28 am

Kudos to you, Mr. Nagler, for calling yourself out regarding MM. It can be a hard thing to do. This is my mea culpa as well. I never was a MM hater, having ranked him as a well above average HC. Now I would rank MM as a very good coach. I will continue to point out any flaws I perceive (stubbornness, excessive loyalty, failure to adjust sometimes). If MM continues to have more excellent game plans and personnel management, then the discussion might turn to whether MM is a great coach. Go Pack!

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Packer_Pete's picture

December 02, 2014 at 06:38 am

I'm with you there. Never thought that MM is a great coach. But his play-calling lately and especially utilization of personnel is superb. He obviously learned. May still be stubborn, but he learned. No problem on my part to say I was wrong about MM.

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Lphill's picture

December 02, 2014 at 05:46 pm

Are Samson and COW the same person?

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4thand1's picture

December 02, 2014 at 07:26 pm

I think they're lovers.

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Packer_Pete's picture

December 02, 2014 at 08:21 pm

or 1st cousins. down in rural Tennessee somewhere.

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Packer_Pete's picture

December 02, 2014 at 09:01 pm

Here's an interesting take from Mike Martz:
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/12/02/nfl-mike-martz-adam-gase-mike-mccoy-mike-m...

The most interesting to me is the following take on Cobb, when Martz was still in Chicago (remember that failed experiment, trying to change bad Jay...), and wanted the Bears to draft Cobb:
"Says Martz, “I tried to get Chicago to draft him, but they said, ‘No. Too little, not really a receiver.’ ”"
Now they have decent receivers down there, but imagine the 2 huge WRs and the TE, and then Cobb as the 3rd WR... Would be the best 3 WR - TE combination in the league... But then again, glad they didn't pull the trigger.

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December 03, 2014 at 06:39 am

The Bears did ok with Jeffrey and Marshall last season. I don't think their issues have anything to do with a design flaw on the way the pieces fit. The Bears problem is they are a locker room train wreck. Cutler has a 10 cent head and Marshall isn't much better. No leadership at all.

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