Meet Your Green Bay Packers 2022 Draft Picks

Your first look at the ENTIRE 2022 Green Bay Packers draft class.

The 2022 NFL Draft has come and gone, and we now know the 11(!) rookies who will be joining the team as this year's draft class. A few will have a bit of an uphill battle to make the roster, but this entire class has a chance to come in and play a role on this team to some degree.

My immediate thoughts: this is the strongest top-to-bottom draft class the Packers have had in many, many years. Of course, it's all on paper right now. It's up to the players and coaching staff to turn this potential into actual talent, and as always, at least a few of these picks won't pan out.

So here, for the first time, is a short look at the ENTIRE 2022 Packers draft class in one post.

Round 1

#22 Overall: Quay Walker, ILB, Georgia

This was certainly a surprise. Most of us have gotten so used to the Packers devaluing the ILB position that we'd written off any shot of them going with an off-ball linebacker early. But it was clear that in 2021, the Packers' ability to run the kinds of packages Joe Barry wanted was hampered by the limitations of Krys Barnes, and the drafting of the extremely athletic Walker to pair with all pro De'Vondre Campbell will have a significant impact on the middle of the Packers' defense.

Walker is an all-around talent, capable of defending against the run and the pass and has a very good range to his game. It may be a surprising pick, but he fits the mold of the kind of player Biran Gutekunst loves, and it takes care of a big need in the defense that has been ignored for far too long. With Walker and Campbell, what has been a longstanding weakness could suddenly become one of the team's strongest positions.

CHTV Write-Up HERE

#28 Overall: Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia

With the team's second first rounder of the night, Gutekunst shored up another position that has been ignored for far too long: defensive line. Kenny Clark has been in desperate need of some help, and Wyatt is a highly athletic big man who could become a true force to be reckoned with. If I was a bit lukewarm in the moment on the Walker pick, this is a pick that I was excited about.

There are a couple things about the selection that were unusual. First, the character concerns. One can hope they will not be an issue in Green Bay. Second, Wyatt is already 24 years old, meaning he's just two years younger than Clark. But this is a guy who produced in college, working his way up from a Community College eam to becoming an All-SEC defender and a key part of Georgia's national title team. The Packers desperately needed a player like Wyatt on the defensive line. He figures to be an immediate contributor.

CHTV Write-Up HERE

Round 2

#34 Overall: Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State

Fans have been screaming for Gutekunst to draft a WR, and while he once again opted not to do so in the first round (wise, given the way the board fell), he still decided to trade up (with the Vikings, no less) to get Watson near the start of the second.

It's easy to see why Gutekunst fell in love with the guy. He's one of the most athletic receivers to ever hit the draft based on his measurables and size, and has tremendous upside. Not only will he be an immediate impact in the passing game, bu the was also an all-American kick returner, another area the Packers desperately need to cover. 

There are those who will say Watson was a "reach" here or that the Packers gave up to much, but if he reaches his potential, all of that will disappear very quickly. Love this pick.

CHTV Write-Up HERE

Round 3

#92 Overall: Sean Rhyan, Offensive Lineman, UCLA

It was only a matter of time before Gutekunst turned his attention to the offensive line, and when he did, he picked a prototypcial Packers offensive lineman. Rhyan is highly versatile and played left tackle for the Bruins, but scouts noted he could play either tackle or guard (again, sounds like a Packer). He could be an immediate challenger for a starting guard position on the offensive line, especially with Elgton Jenkins unlikely to be ready to start the season. There's also the possiblity he could be a Billy Turner replacement at RT.

Most importantly, he has elite hair, fitting him right in with this position group.

CHTV Write-Up HERE

Round 4

#132 Overall: Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

In taking Doubs in the second round, Gutekunst made this just the second time in the modern era that the Packers took two wide receivers in the first rour rounds (the other being 2006). Doubs is another speed demon with deep ball, gadget and return capabilities who could be a fun contributor to this offense. Unlike Watson, however, Doubs was a multi-year starter who played a lot of football games with consistent success. He's not quite the athlete Watson is, but he's no slouch either. Great value at the pick, and a guy who definitely improves what was a thin receiver room coming into the draft.

CHTV Write-Up HERE

#140 Overall: Zach Tom, OL, Wake Forest

Another classic Packer offensive lineman in the fourth round, a round that has traditionally given the Packers some real gems at the position group. He's another potential challenger for the open right tackle position in Green Bay. He's got plenty of athleticism and could be versatile enough to play guard if needed. A LOT of mocks had him going to the Packers, which shows you how much of a prototypical Packers lineman he is.

CHTV Write-Up HERE

Round 5

#179 Overall: Kingsley Enagbare, EDGE, South Carolina

Quite possibly the best value pick of the day for the Packers. They needed some help at the pass rusher position, and Enagbare is a guy that many thought could have gone in the second round. Instead, he fell all the way to the 5th, and the Packers were more than happy to swoop him up. Scouting reports indicate he doesn't have a lot of moves, but he's got strength and leverage. He'll be put into a position where he can be a rotational player and learn from a couple really good pros in Rashan Gary and Preston Smith. Low risk, high reward prospect.

CHTV Write-Up HERE

Round 7

#228 Overall: Tariq Carpenter, S/LB, Georgia Tech

Like Raven Greene and Josh Jones before him, Carpenter's size puts him at sort of a hybrid safety/linebacker role. But mostly, this is a pick that seems geared toward special teams. He's physical and fearless with good straight line speed.  He started for four years in college, too, so he's got plenty of game action and was seen as a team leader. The few snaps he may take on defense I would expect to be mostly in the box, but this screams "we need guys for special teams" to me, especially with coordinator Rich Bisaccia coming in.

CHTV Write-Up HERE

#234 Overall: Jonathan Ford, DL , Miami

Packers are taking a flyer on the big-bodied Ford, who scores low in athleticism but is a massive, massive human who was difficult to move off the line. He could also play a role in field goal and punt protection, something the Packers definitely need help with and something Ford did in college.

CHTV Write-Up HERE

#249,Overall: Rasheed Walker, OT, Penn State

The Packers decided to take a chance on the Penn State tackle, who suffered an injury late his senior year. He started three years for the Nittany Lions and was an honorable All-Big Ten mention twice. He needs a lot of coaching up; he's an athletic player, but not consistent with his technique. He'll have a tough road to make the team, but certainly has the talent to do so.

CHTV Write-Up HERE

#258 Overall: Samori Toure, WR, Nebraska

Toure's a long shot to make the roster, but he's a quick player who can work both inside and outside and could potentially have a path to making the team through special teams, a la Malik Taylor. A triple-dip at the WR position to close out the draft.

CHTV Write-Up HERE

 

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Comments (238)

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stockholder's picture

April 30, 2022 at 07:20 pm

This entire draft ended up better than it started. From madness to genius. It's not how you begin. But where you Finish. The Go get'em was long over due. Hopefully these selections will pay dividends for years.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:30 am

No TE, trade coming ?

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stockholder's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:08 am

No- Free Agency for me.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:54 am

It actually went from genius to madness.
NO ONE after the 4th round will play even 15 games in their entire NFL careers.

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stockholder's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:15 am

No - But I wouldn't have traded back. I also would not have taken the LB/S. Bo Melton would have been the better pick. Even a TE. The WR from Nebraska could develop.

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HDbikerguy's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:57 am

Aaaaaand..... you have some kind of magic crystal ball that you can see into the future???.... idiot....

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dobber's picture

May 01, 2022 at 11:27 am

Given that they were virtually all 7th rounders, that's not a tremendous stretch. But if you wanted to put $20 down, I'd take that bet.

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mmay622's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:48 am

I completely disagree!! Our first four picks were absolutely genius!! We resisted urge to reach in first round and came away with two brilliant picks. I would’ve liked to have not traded so much for Watson but still great pick. GB fans should all be celebrating. Best draft (on paper) we’ve seen in a long time. GPG

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HDbikerguy's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:58 am

I absolutely love the first four picks.....once those WRs went so early..... great D players fell into our lap...

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 01, 2022 at 02:06 pm

Thanks for giving us Walter Football's opinion of the draft SH. What would we do without you?

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BirdDogUni's picture

May 01, 2022 at 03:26 pm

Enjoy our time here?

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 01, 2022 at 04:16 pm

Lmfao BirdDog 🤣

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 04:09 pm

Walter hates GB. It’s been a known fact for decades. Since they first started.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 01, 2022 at 04:15 pm

Probly why SH loves them so much lol

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stockholder's picture

May 01, 2022 at 11:51 pm

Be less informed. Seems everyone is leaving SB Nations Acme, to come here. I wish I could say great minds think a like. But that isn't the case.

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MainePackFan's picture

April 30, 2022 at 07:25 pm

Well done Gute!! I wanted Alec Pierce but you can't have them all. This looks like an excellent draft on paper. Time will tell.

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GreenBaySmacker's picture

April 30, 2022 at 07:36 pm

Agreed. Hindsight he could have drafted Watson #28, got Pierce at #53 (Colts got him with GBs pick), and took a DT at #59 but oh well. I believe he did damn well and like you said, time will tell.

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greengold's picture

April 30, 2022 at 07:41 pm

You may find yourself really appreciating Devante Wyatt before too long. To me, I wanted him all along, thinking we’d stand no chance of getting the #1 DL in the entire draft. Still stunned by that.

WR Fever is a thing.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

April 30, 2022 at 11:00 pm

Wyatt is the star of the draft to me. Been my #1 choice (because I knew Jameson was out of reach) from the get go! He is going to be a major difference maker on D.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:22 am

Wyatt was someone I never thought we’d get at 22.

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:46 am

“if Devonte Wyatt somehow drops to 22, I’m running up with the card!” — one happy Packer fan

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 01, 2022 at 11:20 am

When was the last time the Pack had a 300 lb DT with linebacker movement skills playing the IDL?

Getting Kenny another wingman has been a need for a long time. Lowry has stepped up, Reed on the line, Slayton looks like a keeper...and now Wyatt?

The Packer front 7 is going to be getting Ram/Niner notice this season. Watching the D help win games again is going to be a blast!

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dobber's picture

May 01, 2022 at 11:28 am

They've had plenty of LBs with 300-lb DT movement skills over the years...

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Rebecca's picture

May 01, 2022 at 11:45 am

😆

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Gee's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:57 pm

Damn the truth really hurts, well played.

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LeotisHarris's picture

May 01, 2022 at 04:57 pm

dobber, there's no reason to drag Jim Gueno into this.

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PhantomII's picture

May 03, 2022 at 05:47 pm

I started to down vote your comment until I read it thru again....So true....LOL!!!!

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Tundraboy's picture

May 05, 2022 at 09:54 pm

Lmao 🤣

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PhantomII's picture

May 01, 2022 at 02:42 pm

Yes, really happy we picked Wyatt. I have bashed Lowry as much as anyone, but this year I have noticed when he bull rushes....at just the second the Offensive player drops anchor Lowry makes a move and is bye the opponent.
I believe this technical timing has enabled him to make an impact for us this last season and put pressure on the QB. It's good to know we have a lot better DL rotation on the way and our guys will be getting more 3 and outs and will be fresher than they had been. GPG

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:16 pm

Wyatt is likely going to be Clark's replacement. Clark has a $23 million cap hit next year.

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murf7777's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:00 am

Yes on Wyatt, our best pick in the draft, although I certainly hope Watson gives him a run for the money.

I wanted to share Doubs will be an interesting pick and hope he turns out. His mother is a big fan of the Packers, Romeo Loves the Packers as well and he seems to be a humble man, which I like. A boundary receiver who can stretch the field between him and Watson you know what the Packers were looking for. Our other WR’s all can play the slot. Both are going to have to really work on the Jugs machine and keep their drops down. It’s the NFL and now its time to work on your craft Full time! Hoping for the best for the two of them. Doubs also plays ST’s and he stated whatever the Packers want him to do he is blessed for the opportunity. High Character and good work ethic.

He Loves the Packers, what else needs to be said:)

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:47 am

I actually think both Doubs and Toure represent strong value. Toure isn’t guaranteed to make the team as a 7th rounder, but I think he has a strong chance to force his way in to the rotation alongside Doubs. It’s going to interesting to see which of the receivers is ready to help most in September and how ruthless they will be with those held over who get surpassed or dinged up.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:04 pm

A guy like Toure might he challenge say Amari for play, or a spot on active roster? Amari needs to really ramp up his game.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:18 pm

Wait till you see Quay Walker play. Hes going to become the centerpiece of an already loaded defense. With his size, speed, tackling, and coverage skills, the only comp for him that makes sense is Brian Urlacher. He has that kind of upside. And he will be learning from Joe Barry, the league's premier linebacker guru.

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Archie777's picture

May 02, 2022 at 10:20 am

Agreed that Walker should be a gem for us, but I liken him more to a Micah Parsons type. Great speed/quickness/power and can rush from inside as well as outside. And he can cover like a S. Can't wait to see him in action dressed in green & gold!

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 30, 2022 at 08:04 pm

Congratulations on your Predict the Pick Win!

If I hadn't taken LLC's advise, I probably would've beat ya! Lol

Great Job!

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 30, 2022 at 09:40 pm

What was that? And now you know better!

I would've done alright if I had switched the 1st two.

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BirdDogUni's picture

April 30, 2022 at 11:34 pm

You were willing to bet Travis Jones was going in the first round, and like an idiot, I believed you. Lol (It was all in fun anyway right, and I had fun.) As long as I kicked your butt I was happy. ( : }

I just had a feeling the Jags would take Travon Walker because "people" don't like being told who they should take.

Very interesting draft though. I zeroed in on Devin Lloyd, because I thought he'd be great with Campbell. I looked at Quay Walker, but not closely enough. He is by far the best ILBer for us, and Gutey/Barry recognized that. Very versatile. Using him like Dallas did Parsons last season could be devastating to opposing offenses.

Wyatt - I think we can safely say the Red Flags thrown up around him were "almost" false flags, which caused his fall to 28. I fully expect if he wouldn't have fallen, Gutey would've pulled the trigger on Watson in the 1st round.

You know I liked Watson since before we got knocked out of the Playoffs, so I was pretty happy with the trade up to get him. We drafted some great OL depth, at least it looks like it, from the outside looking in.

I'm very excited about this draft class. Loads of possibilities. Now they just have to put in the work. I think AR will be excited to work with Watson, Doubs, and Toure, along with Amari, Watkins, Lazard, and Cobb. Going to be interesting to watch until footballs start flying for real.

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croatpackfan's picture

May 01, 2022 at 02:46 am

Why everybody forget Winfree and Taylor?

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:51 am

Taylor was supplanted by EQ for a reason that never became obvious to me. Right or wrong thats put him on notice that he’s on the outside looking in. If Winfree stays healthy I think he’s in with a shot. The big questions are how committed are they to Cobb, Watkins and Rodgers if they get hurt and an alternative makes a big impact. If Toure is better than Rodgers in preseason, who makes the roster, for example?

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Oppy's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:04 pm

The difficult decision would be cutting Cobb, who admittedly I would have never brought back to Green Bay to begin with, but now that he's here, he does supply veteran leadership and he's a good model for young WRs to follow his lead.

But I'd cut him if we have young talent we don't want to lose to the numbers game.

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PhantomII's picture

May 01, 2022 at 03:06 pm

I'm pretty sure the NFL will still allow teams higher numbers to protect players on the practice squad.

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Oppy's picture

May 02, 2022 at 03:35 am

I thought that it was announced that Covid rules were out the window in 2022? I could be mistaken.

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Coldworld's picture

May 02, 2022 at 10:52 am

You aren’t

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Coldworld's picture

May 02, 2022 at 10:52 am

Duplicate

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HDbikerguy's picture

May 01, 2022 at 09:02 am

The absolute best part about Watson is IF he becomes really, really good.....we got him in a trade with the Queenies.....

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MainePackFan's picture

May 01, 2022 at 09:35 am

Thanks Bird, and thanks for taking the time to set it up. When do I get my check ;)

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BirdDogUni's picture

May 01, 2022 at 03:34 pm

*It's in the mail MPF! ; P

Yeah, it was fun. Wish a few more would've participated, but oh well, their loss.

You did great though!

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:32 am

The Walker pick took out Pierce and #59( OT, TE). My preference was the hedge with Watson @ #22. Wyatt would still be there @ #28 or Hall. Quay Walker will have to prove he was worth it.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:11 pm

Jannes,
I agree Quay threw a curve ball on the direction the draft would go for the Packers. I've watched video on him and he is instinctive and a good player who will help the team no doubt. Just my thought but drafting him along with giving up #59 caused the Pack to miss out on a top Edge player. Still what looks like a stellar draft. Getting Wyatt at 28 was huge! Us Packer fans are going to love what he adds on the field for our defense.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 02, 2022 at 10:47 am

See how Walker fairs down the road compared to Brandon Smith from PennState who went in the fourth rd. He was the most complete of the Georgia LBs and he can mirror TEs. I am most happy with the Wyatt grab.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:20 pm

Quay Walker is easily their best pick in this draft. Joe Barry is about to turn him into an absolute superstar.

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:35 pm

Totally, totally, totally agree.

These guys are playing some hardball, throwing high heat. Gutekunst, Barry, LaFleur - they all knew they were passing on Devin Lloyd to take Quay Walker, because they believe in him, their work, and their experience.

Fearless. That’s commitment.

Adding his running mate DT Devonte Wyatt up front to keep Walker clean a few picks later in that same 1st Round? That’s destiny.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:55 am

Pierce will be a bust after he gets rocked the first time he touches the ball and never recovers!

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BirdDogUni's picture

May 02, 2022 at 10:48 am

This might be one of the worst take I've heard in a week.

I am biased, because I really wanted both Watson and Pierce.

Every time I have heard a coach talk about Pierce one of his biggest assets was his toughness. In fact, the first time he touches the ball, I'll bet he's the one doing the Rock'in.

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GreenBaySmacker's picture

April 30, 2022 at 07:25 pm

Toure will make the team. Mark my words. Watson, Doubs and Toure just may be the future of the franchise at WR. I believe they're that good and they have the Packer mentality too it seems. All 3 have underdog stories and have beaten the odds so far. Can't wait for week 1 lol go Pack!

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Bure9620's picture

April 30, 2022 at 07:45 pm

That would be 7 WRs which is unlikely

Locks are
Cobb
Lazard
Rodgers
Watson
Doubs (likely)
Watkins

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greengold's picture

April 30, 2022 at 08:28 pm

OMG, Bure, they have ways… Doubs will be in that room.

Cobb, the Jedi-Master wise sage will find the PUP early, guiding all the way, mentoring, while he takes a big break, which is smart to save him for the playoffs. Same with Watkins, if he wants… though his contract incentive laden.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:37 am

Amari is the guy standing on the Ledge. He shows or goes.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 01, 2022 at 04:17 pm

I still like Amari much better than Doubs. Amari just needs reps. Doubs needs serious work. Raw athlete in every sense of the word.

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Coldworld's picture

April 30, 2022 at 11:25 pm

Injury risk is high for Cobb and Watkins and one will also be the primary returner anyway and another gunner. That’s without any injuries entering the season. Honestly, I think Toure, even Winfree could make Rodgers retention uncertain. He’s going to have to show up and we have more than one other return option. Let them fight it out, but I wouldn’t guarantee Rodgers.

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greengold's picture

April 30, 2022 at 11:27 pm

You can’t make me fight on that hill. No, Sir.

Nice try, you fucker.

LOL

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:29 am

The point of a loaded room is to let the best fight to remain in it. I don’t expect much patience if players are being out played and are not Watson or Lazard (unless Cobb gets a special pass). Likewise I don’t think we let go a player who becomes a consistent target because he wasn’t. The need is for production this year.

You will succumb eventually GG.

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 06:04 am

Black glove and all, huh? POINTED RIGHT AT ME IN A HALF CLUTCH…

“Hey, what happened to my forearm? And why am I hanging onto this giant antennae?… Why is it windy in Space?” LOL

Too good.

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BTW, totally agree. Wish Dareke Young made the room. Saw raves about him. Hell, I wish Velus did too. Regardless, the competition is going to be great, and we’ll see who is left standing.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 09:19 am

I think we really missed out on a prime ST candidate as a gunner with tremendous upside. I wonder if he was the next one before the chickens plucked him. I do like the Toure pick though. He was far far above value.

In that last round we got a potential long term slot type, a potential Lancaster replacement, a OT redemption candidate listed as a first rounder by many a year ago but with technical regression and a hybrid type S whom I see as a RB target primarily. He’s one hell of a big gunner/tackler with strong ST experience. Focused targeting I think for roles and one boom/bust pick in Walker. He’d be a massive steal based on appraisals a year ago.

Velus was probably redundant after Watson and Doubs. I really don’t like the fact that the Bears got him though. He’s a better receiver than many think but he’s a potentially elite returner.

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murf7777's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:08 am

CW….Cobb isn’t going anywhere, he showed he can still play. He might not play the whole year, but he can play. You have to have good vets on the team and he has a connection with Rodgers which will be important.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 09:26 am

I think it’s unlikely, but if (IF) both Rodgers and Toure have a great preseason and out play him the team should release the old guy. If he can’t stay healthy and others can and are showing up, the same applies. Watkins is a similar proposition.

The odds are both Watkins and Rodgers make it, but they need to do so on merit and in part by staying healthy. We can’t afford to keep non stars if they are outperformed. They are one year players, if they are clearly out played then we must be ruthless.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 01, 2022 at 02:04 pm

You can stash Toure on the practice squad to begin the season. Watkins' contract is incentive laden. Cobb is basically playing for free. Both of them will almost certainly miss time this year.

And yes, we can keep Toure on the practice squad if we're willing to spend a little money to keep him there.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 02:48 pm

Not if you want him on the field. Old PS rules are now back.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 01, 2022 at 09:56 am

We need 5 healthy on gameday; let's see what we look like in September. You would expect that Cobb, and Watkins, and even Lazard, could miss games with injury. We don't know if any of the rookies are going to hold up for a season that's about twice as long as the 10 game college season.

So no, Cobb isn't going anywhere. Amari Rodgers isn't going anywhere. Nobody's going anywhere. This is our WR group. Now, if somebody takes a bad injury in training camp, we might pick up somebody. Or maybe one of the practice squad guys from last year like Winfree or Taylor hangs on, or maybe the 7th round guy (who I think will end up on the practice squad.)

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Oppy's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:15 pm

At this stage in his career, it's a serious concern if Cobb's job isn't in contention.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 01, 2022 at 01:59 pm

Oppy, he's a veteran, a good guy, a good mentor, and he can still get open and catch. AND he's playing for free, basically. I'm pretty sure this is his last lap around the track. If everybody is healthy, he'll be a gameday inactive.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 02:55 pm

We can free up cap by releasing him, but that was never my point. My point was that a) we may need to carry more as we have injury prone players and b) that we must be willing to keep the best players regardless of draft position (excluding Lazard (experience and snap volume) and Watson (developmental)). That’s how one gets better. First we have to get them all to week one healthy.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:24 am

Duplicate

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

May 01, 2022 at 06:14 am

I am not an Amari Rodgers fan. That said, I think he'll be given every chance to make the team again this year.
Toure reminds me a lot of a young Donald Driver in the way he moves; I think he'll make the 53 just because I think one of the other top guys will be injured by the start of the season. I just have a feeling about this guy...
A couple weeks ago, I commented that "Romeo Doubs looks like a poor-man's Davante Adams." Emphasis on "poor-man's." :-D Still, he could be solid--I'd have preferred Khalil Shakir (I don't CARE if he has short arms!).

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:45 am

Doubs is the better Wideout. Similar offenses. Just like with Skyy Moore, Packertown would not know how to use shorter, faster, quicker guys a' la Welker, Edelmann, Shakir, Melton etc. They stick to WCO schemes. Toure' was a threat for Cornhusker.

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:24 pm

I really thought Amari was a perfect choice last year as a JET, slot, with unique offerings. I still do. Seemed he had an uphill battle getting meaningful reps.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 03:32 pm

Apparently the team decided that he should learn the full route tree. He apparently looked great on the scout team but got discombobulated with Rodgers and the firsts. Was that a move made in reaction to Cobb? If so it misfired when Cobb got hurt. Not that Cobb ran what little option we ran. We gave that to EQ. We will probably never know why. Gute made sure EQ went this off season, which may say something of his view on that.

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The_Justicar's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:11 am

More than likely one or more go to IR in training camp.

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Bure9620's picture

April 30, 2022 at 07:45 pm

That would be 7 WRs which is unlikely

Locks are
Cobb
Lazard
Rodgers
Watson
Doubs (likely)
Watkins

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

May 01, 2022 at 01:49 am

I am trying to remember the last time a fourth round pick didn't make the 53. Maybe that has happened, but Doubs seems like a lock to me barring a career threatening injury.

I think you're probably right that Cobb is a lock, though his $2.78M in cap savings is out there (ignore OTC's numbers: they once again decided to make a player's numbers indecipherable). Ditto for Amari Rodgers, who I would suggest is a good bet, but not a lock.

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dobber's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:29 am

Pete Dougherty pointed to WR Cory Rodgers in 2006 (the last time the Packers took 2 WR in the first 4 rounds). I don't think Carl Bradford (LB) made the original 53 in 2014.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:45 pm

Ah. Wiki indicates Rodgers got into a bar fight and received probation. He was later signed to his rookie deal but was then cut. Bradford's Wiki page indicates he was inactive for every game as a rookie. I guess Brohm survived for his rookie year.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 01, 2022 at 09:58 am

I'd expect Toure to begin the season on the practice squad.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:14 pm

Bure with Cobb and Sammy injuries are always a possibility. Also, Amari is going to have to really step up his game. Right now I'd be concerned if him with the new WR's coming aboard. No guarantees in the NFL!

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PackfanNY's picture

April 30, 2022 at 08:41 pm

What’s interesting about Toure is that he seems to be the counterbalance to Watson and Doubs. By that I mean those two are “big play” down the field options while Toure strikes me as more the mid range possession guy. Not sure how he fits on the roster with Cobb, Lazard and Watkins. Not that he doesn’t. We are also assuming everyone is healthy. Hopefully, these are the type of issues we have to worry about. LOL.

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MWendlandt's picture

April 30, 2022 at 10:04 pm

Toure led the Big Ten in Yards per Catch last year at 19.5. He's a big play receiver.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:32 am

But he’s more of a slot than an over the top down the sidelines guy. I think that’s the primary difference suggested.

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 06:12 am

Exactly. Gutekunst certainly added variety to the room in the last couple of years…

Bunch of fast, nimble cars in that garage.

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Jlbksmith's picture

April 30, 2022 at 09:14 pm

Yup. I think Toure ends up being a steal.

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MainePackFan's picture

April 30, 2022 at 07:27 pm

I loved the Doubs pick. That's your sleeper.

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baldski's picture

April 30, 2022 at 08:01 pm

The Doubs pick made my day today since I live in Reno and follow UNR football also. Romeo is a solid pick.

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mrtundra's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:52 am

Doubs and Watson will be our returners on STs

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greengold's picture

April 30, 2022 at 07:31 pm

I love this draft. Some players I really wanted, and a lot of nice surprises throughout. Gutekunst is an ascending talent, himself. Certainly appears to be after looking at his work and that of his Packers Personnel Department immediately following Day 3… well done, Packers!

22 LB Quay Walker
28 DT Devonte Wyatt
35 WR Christian Watson
93 OT Sean Rhyan
132 WR Romeo Doubs
140 OT Zach Tom
179 EDGE Kingsley Enegbare
228 S Tariq Walker
234 DE Jonathan Ford
249 OT Rasheed Walker
258 WR Samouri Toure

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stockholder's picture

April 30, 2022 at 08:08 pm

The worst case scenario
@22 Aj Hawk
@28 Daniels -
@35 MVS
@93 Turner
@132 St. Brown
@140 Patrick
@179 Ke Ke

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LLCHESTY's picture

April 30, 2022 at 09:43 pm

You really are a ray of sunshine aren't you?

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Minniman's picture

April 30, 2022 at 09:55 pm

Only one player taken above the 4th round from that group stockholder, and many starters\competent players.

I like that this draft class is loaded with players with a high potential for receiving many meaningful snaps this year.

Though, as a fan base, we shouldn’t place undue expectations on the receivers being the reincarnations of Randy Moss and Megatron (or Tae) - before year 3 (at least).

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greengold's picture

April 30, 2022 at 11:22 pm

11 players selected. 7 are in Ourlads’ Top 100 Rankings:
Devonte Wyatt, Kingsley Enagbare, Christian Watson, Quay Walker, Zach Tom, Sean Rhyan, Romeo Doubs

5 of them exist on Athlon’s Top 100, 4 of them on PFF’s…

Remarkable work this draft by Gutekunst & Co.

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stockholder's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:01 am

Let me give you a little different scenario. Or redraft- @22 Walker was a reach. I now what they saw, and the report. I said this was Ok. But letting Watson drop was the gamble. Next this came up. Per draft Gurus= @ 28 Watson should have been the pick. No trade was needed. But taking a DT messed up the draft. Yes, they could have waited and Got Jones (Conn.). Jones was the better DL in my view. ( Time will tell. )
And Kept a 2nd rounder. {If they then wanted to go up for Pickens they could have. Losing Doubs. Pickens would have cost them a 2 and 4. Gutey would have given them a 3.} Which would have been a mistake in the long run. Pickens was Boom or Bust. Going after him would have been a bigger mistake than anyone realizes.
Gutey's whole draft depends on his DT not getting hurt. (And blowing out his knee.) But that could happen to any of these picks. Which I hope doesn't!
Watson was the prize. And Gutey made the best move of the draft getting him.
In the long run. He got two OL. And messed up other Teams draft boards. And you can give him a A- for this draft.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 09:47 am

Walker is a Barry pick. He has the quintessential Barry ILB profile and indicates that Barry wants to play 2 ILBs more. Barry ILBs need to be able to range, cover and tackle in space. Walker was probably in a class of one with his mix of skills and physical attributes.

In hindsight, that makes a lot of sense and is for Barry a similar pick as Dillon and Deguara were for LaFleur. Is that a reach? Maybe under classical definitions, but in our context it was ticking off what Barry may have seen as the one chance to make the biggest marginal upgrade on his D. If we’d taken Wyatt at that pick he’d still have been tremendous value. We got him too, so it’s a wash even without the Barry factor.

The massive gamble in this draft is round 2. We could have come away with 2 very promising alternative players. While I think Doubs and Toure were good enough picks of great value and cancel out the passing on other receivers, we gave up another pick with quality. That may be our TE or true S, who knows.

What we got was a project. Massive upside but, at this point a raw player who needs to learn technique in almost every area, including catching, virtually an entire route tree and to adapt to very different defenses and level of athletes. That’s the definition of a gamble pick. We need to remember that as Watson tries to find his feet.

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stockholder's picture

May 01, 2022 at 11:53 am

If WR wasn't taken by #53. You would have only got 2 WRs- per late picks. BECAUSE OF SIZE! (Maybe a shot at Pierce.- A player that would never be a #1) The 3 best Safeties were off the Board. You would have Got a DL or OL. ( OT was Deep.) And I like the OL the packers selected more. The DL would have been Jones or Leal as I predicted. Both were projects to play other Positions. Teams needed the Edge/Lb First. And the Packers went back to the DL, in the 7th. I'm sure they would have taken the Trench. @53 and #59.

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stockholder's picture

May 02, 2022 at 12:06 am

Cold- No- You wouldn't have come away with two. Watson is the second rd pick. You only lost @59. Regardless, the picks would have had to be offense.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:26 am

Agreed, Moss was 6'-4, 195 lbs with a 4.25, 40 and a 47"-0 Vertical at his Marshall Pro Day. Denny Green had the brains to grab him at #21. A Big Whiff to put on the Wolf coup stick. He listened to Lou Holtz and paid the price. Christian Watson is not from a survivor's background and could use some of the Moss mojo like MVS received training at Randy's Camp. Watson is not too shabby in comparison: 6'-4, 209 with a 4.36 40. 38-1/2 vertical and 10-1/8 mitts with similar body control. Let's Get to Work.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:07 am

Randy Moss came in after a stellar 1A college career. Over 3500 yards and 54 touchdowns in 2 seasons. He lost out to Charles Woodson, but he was 4th in Heisman Trophy voting.

Watson has less career catches than Moss had TDs. 11 to be exact.

Watson also played against much lesser athletes and ran a far less complex offense. He’s far far less technically polished and not the utterly natural catcher that Moss was. We have just signed UDFA WRs that racked up more catches and yards against better opponents than Watson faced without close to the athleticism.

Watson needs time. His acolytes may just end up burying him. The only similarity between him an Moss coming out is the physical athleticism. That should be mirrored in early expectations, but I see that train has clearly left the station.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:26 am

Give it a rest. If Watson was on the OSU squad where would he land in the Draft? Three-year starter on a pro-style, running attack for the Buffalos.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:40 am

Get a grip on fact not fantasy. Ifs and might have beens aren’t the same as achievement.

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stockholder's picture

May 02, 2022 at 12:10 am

Cold- can't give it a rest. He didn't want Rodgers to have help. He hates Rodgers.

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 01:00 pm

Lost in all this are LaFleur’s first comments about him referenced noticing Watson’s great run blocking…

This appears to have been one of a pretty wide ranging set of plans 2021 and the future.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 01, 2022 at 02:49 pm

Probly 5th round cuz he wouldve never seen the field. Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave werent even the best receivers on that team. Jameson Williams had to transfer cuz even he couldnt get on the field at OSU. Watson wouldve been the punt team gunner there.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 07, 2022 at 07:58 am

Clueless.

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BirdDogUni's picture

May 01, 2022 at 03:57 pm

I watched the combine live and when I saw Watson's unofficial 4.23, I thought it was legit. I'm serious. When 4.23 came up on the TV screen, I was convinced that's exactly what I had just watched. Of course, we all know the official time became 4.36, but I call BS.

I went back and watched some of the Senior Bowl practices, and Watson is not a No-Trick Pony. His best trick might be the Fly route or the skinny Post, but he can do a hell-of-a-lot more than just those. I will be following his development as close as any draft pick the Packers have ever had.

I think Watson's running motion is more fluid than Randy's. Randy had those really high knees. Granted, Moss was other-worldly, so if Watson can come in, keep his head down, learn the system, and become the best Watson that he can be, the Packers will be glad they took him a few years from now. (Hell, I'm glad right now!) ; )

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:04 pm

He’s got the all raw materials. Now it’s up to him to learn. If he does, he will make the Vikings rue the day before he is done. As you say though, he has a way to go to get there.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 02, 2022 at 11:05 am

The best pick for the Pack since Kenny Clark. The question for fans is do your trust what you see, or what you hear?

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greengold's picture

April 30, 2022 at 11:14 pm

LOL, stockholder… you asked for this! Well done:

Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy
Sunshine in my eyes can make me cry
Sunshine on the water looks so lovely
Sunshine almost always makes me high

If I had a day that I could give you
I'd give to you a day just like today
If I had a song that I could sing for you
I'd sing a song to make you feel this way

Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy
Sunshine in my eyes can make me cry
Sunshine on the water looks so lovely
Sunshine almost always makes me high

If I had a tale that I could tell you
I'd tell a tale sure to make you smile
If I had a wish that I could wish for you
I'd make a wish for sunshine all the while

Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy
Sunshine in my eyes can make me cry
Sunshine on the water looks so lovely
Sunshine almost always makes me high

Sunshine almost all the time makes me high
Sunshine almost always

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 09:45 am

Black hole sun, won’t you come, and wash away the rain?

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 09:04 am

The one player I am really unable to decide about fit is Enagbare. Is he an OLB, a DE and how do they plan to use him. That’s not to say I’m against the pick: he seemed clearly the best player available at that position when picked based on his record. It’s that I don’t know what they see him as and how they plan to use him. If he bulks up, will he learn to hold up against the run? It will be interesting to see.

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dobber's picture

May 01, 2022 at 11:44 am

Enagbare profiles physically somewhere between Za'Darius Smith and Jonathan Garvin: better effort and production than Garvin, not the dynamo of ZaDarius. Tests similarly to Z, not quite the athlete that Garvin is.

Maybe people want more variability in their OLB/rush ends, but I don't see any inconsistency with them asking him to play at about 255 and be a flexible rusher in that same mold as he gets stronger.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:59 am

Tariq CARPENTER, the sp teams demon. I got four out of my obsessive speculations. The Intensity of this band of bloggers, I feel
transferred some Energy to the brain trust. They performed well. This Gen Z group of Greenhorns may help them take home the Prize this season.
It now feels "All-In"

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stockholder's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:20 am

I would not have taken Carpenter. I would have taken Melton, Strong, Or a TE.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:36 am

Carpenter is Bisaccia's guy. 6-2, 230 at 4.47. Rasheed Walker dropping was surprising. He still must be recovering from a cracked leg. I had him in the fourth rd. Toure' is a bit taller than Melton. Melton was a dominant force vs Badger. PR/KR dynamic in space. They wouldn't know how to use him. Seattle creeped in ahead of them twice in rd seven. Schneider acting like a fox.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:37 am

Almost certainly. I’m glad we are taking this seriously and targeting ST talent. It’s a high pick for such, but that is what is needed to really change the level of ST play. For years we’ve just punted in raw athletes and hoped.

We now have 2 with the CB signed earlier in the year in FA. I hope they work out, but it does look like RB is getting his tools. It’s not just talk.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 01, 2022 at 11:29 am

Too bad for your guy Dereke. Schneider was thinking the same way and I wanted Melton as the returner vs. Toure'. So it Goes. I thought they would move into rd six for positioning. I had Carpenter in all the mocks and either Tycen Anderson or Joey Blount. The Special teams will be overhauled. Even Crosby will have to prove he belongs.

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dobber's picture

May 01, 2022 at 11:37 am

I think Rasheed Walker was a tremendous value in the 7th round, assuming he's healthy.

"Seattle creeped in ahead of them twice in rd seven. Schneider acting like a fox."

Only if they were looking at the same players. The selections are so broad at that stage that it hardly matters.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 01, 2022 at 02:51 pm

3 receivers isnt enough for you? They already had 4 under contract and drafted 3 more. They typically only carry 6 on the gameday roster. Do the math.

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packer132's picture

April 30, 2022 at 09:45 pm

I thought the 2021 draft was very good but 2022 looks better yet on paper. You would like 3 starters every year from the draft, and I think that will happen. Last year was Stokes, Myers, and Newman (4th round). It will be a very competitive training camp, and not all 11 picks will make it. The WR room still has Winfree and Taylor, and competition is always good. Packers signed 13 undrafted FA's today to compete, including 2 WR's and 2 RB's. I am hoping for fewer injuries and a very fun season.

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mbpacker's picture

April 30, 2022 at 08:37 pm

Me too! Injuries are a reality so important to have depth! GPG!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

May 01, 2022 at 03:43 am

Three at least average or better starters.

Newman looks a little shaky as a starter. Yes, he started but that was mostly by default as the Packers did not have an average or slightly below average RG on the roster. Rhyan will challenge Newman for snaps. Should be a good battle because I think Newman got better as the season progressed. When push came to shove, Stenavich made Lucas Patrick the starter. Most of us think well of Stenavich, and he acknowledged that the OL personnel was his decision in the playoffs.

Myers is hard to judge. He looked pretty good in game one and two and then hurt his finger. He returned but didn't look as good (finger or putting out tape for opponents to study?) and then got hurt again. Tom will challenge Myers for snaps, but Tom might need a year in the weight room. I feel better about backup center with Tom on the team.

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Guam's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:11 am

Everyone thought the Packers should draft tackles, but I agree with your assessment that this draft was targeted at the interior O-line. Only Runyon was solid last year on the IOL and Rhyan and Tom certainly will provide competition for Newman, Myers and Hanson.

I think the Packers will be fine at OT this year with Bahk, Jenkins (eventually), Nijman and perhaps Van Lanen or the Penn St OT. I think Runyon could also play RT in a pinch as he played tackle for MIchigan.

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BirdDogUni's picture

May 01, 2022 at 04:38 pm

Yeah, the RT competition is going to be fierce this TC. There are a handful of guys that could possibly start at RT. Gutey sounded like he was confident that DBAK would be back and at full strength. Once we get Jenkins back in the mix, this OL could be top notch, again.

After Runyan did such a good job inside as a Rookie, they might be thinking he could kick out to RT and one of the rookies can get their feet wet at G? I know how talented Jenkins is, but when he's healthy, our OL would look awful good with him back at LG.

BAK - Jenkins - Meyers - Tom - Runyan is just one of countless OL combinations they could try.

BAK - Tom - Meyers - Runyan - Niman

Royce Newman T/G
Cole Van Lanen T/G
Sean Rhyan T/G
Rasheed Walker T

Hell, I know asking Rasheed Walker to start at RT as a rookie is a big ask, but at 6' 6" 325lbs, who knows? He might be able to handle it?

Interesting how they have them labeled. Zach Tom is listed as OL, Walker is listed as a T only, most of the others are T/G.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:40 am

A small correction. We had a good RG on the roster, his name was Patrick.

But Patrick had to play Center, because our starter got hurt. The guy who would have normally been the backup center, Jenkins, was busy playing LT in place of Bakhtiari.

So that meant Newman was thrown into the fire, and he struggled and battled. He'll probably be better this year for the experience.

This is the definition of cobbling something together with what you've got. This year, we start with Myers, who missed most of the season, at Center. His backup is Hanson? And Nijman, who is a very capable backup LT, is starting at RT and we have nobody as a backup at either spot? I'm already at Defcon 4 with this group. If we start taking injuries here, it could derail the season.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

May 01, 2022 at 11:08 pm

Fair. I am not arguing. Indeed, I wondered why Patrick didn't start the first few games at RG while Myers was healthy for game one and two. I wondered if the coaches felt Newman needed the reps to unleash his potential or if Newman straight up beat out Patrick by day one. If so, Patrick regressed from his 2020 level.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 02, 2022 at 11:56 am

Patrick was a solid backup as a Center and a fill-in for the guard spot. A tenacious and fundamental blocker but was bull rushed into Rodgers too many times.They wanted bigger guys up front withMyers and Newman. They beat him out and performed well as Greenhorns. The injury bug with Jenkins going down put a crimp in the SB plan and Turner hobbling about. I like the three new additions.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:56 am

Two things with Newman. One, It’s not physical talent it was recognition. Two, he got markedly better in the last third of the season. I therefore believe there is a good chance he continues to improve.

We have now added some depth, but let’s not jump to assume they are readier than what we have. Remember, Newman was the best rated guard in the league in preseason. There is often a learning curve. We have depth and some talent and potential within it.

I do agree that Myers isn’t a given. He seems to have potential but was poor after injury and bad on recall (clearly should not have started in retrospect in my opinion). Again, depth is good and we just signed a very smart and technically adept C. to challenge Hanson. In reality the only true test is consistent performance in season once schemed against (as Newman reminded us).

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 01, 2022 at 02:53 pm

Newman is better suited for tackle than he is for guard.

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AgrippaLII's picture

April 30, 2022 at 07:40 pm

I really like this draft class. Gute got key pieces in the early rounds, added some good depth in the middle rounds, and made special teams better in the late rounds. At least that's my take on this year's draft.

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Wilment's picture

April 30, 2022 at 07:40 pm

In my first year as a Fan/owner, Im pleased with the way it finished up for us We got good value in the first round(though I was clamoring for a receiver, but we got the guy I wanted in round two, reminds me of a taller Jordy nelson, and he is use to catching balls in the cold weather), got great value in the later picks. Overall, Id give us a B plus....GOPACKGO!!

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MooPack's picture

April 30, 2022 at 08:01 pm

Very good draft. Has chance to be one of the best ever. Could have four starters by end of year.

I had Watson and Tom in all my sims. Walker and Toure in a few. Surprised by Wyatt, Rhyan(he's thick, isn't he?), and Enagbare. Thought they'd be gone by Packers picks.

WR room is going to be the talk of the summer and pre-season. Def room not far behind.

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mbpacker's picture

April 30, 2022 at 08:39 pm

OL will be competitive too.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 01, 2022 at 02:55 pm

Best ever? Lets pump the brakes a little. I doubt this even becomes Gute's best draft. 2019, where they drafted Rashan Gary, Darnell Savage, and Elgton Jenkins with their first 3 picks will be incredibly hard to top.

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BirdDogUni's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:04 pm

Pumping the brakes while going down the Mountain at 100 mph is always fun. ; )

If they all were to stay healthy, I could see Quay = Gary - Wyatt > Savage and Watson = Jenkins... (As far as their contributions to the team go.)

(Yes, we have no idea yet what we have, but like some around here, I am very excited to see.)

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 02, 2022 at 09:54 am

Dont get me wrong, I love this draft class. But the 2019 class set a bar thats going to be hard to match. With that being said, I hope this class surpasses 2019. Would only mean great things for the Pack.

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MooPack's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:42 pm

Brakes? I don't use brakes. Ask my wife.

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:46 pm

“ALL GAS. NO FUCKING BRAKE.”

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

April 30, 2022 at 08:11 pm

Just looked at all the other teams' drafts and realized: I would not trade our draft picks for ANY other team's picks!
That is the FIRST time in my 40 years as a draftnik that I can say that!

Several teams had a better top two, or they had an equal top five, but not one had as many high-quality picks as we did, in my opinion.
:-)

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 30, 2022 at 08:38 pm

I will second that commendation. As if the spirits expunged the odor of ancient drafts. A solid collection of football Players to move them into the Big Game.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:36 am

Thanks, and shout-out to the anti-Packers lurkers who downvoted this post!
:-D

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 02, 2022 at 11:23 am

Those fans thought Burks and Jackson were solid two picks and UDFA scrubs are the equivalent of high picks at the skill positions...

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stockholder's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:05 pm

I agree. Because the packers never drafted the ILB or DL. And I had Watson as my #1 WR @22. Then to get those OL was Fantastic.

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splitpea1's picture

April 30, 2022 at 08:30 pm

As far as the selection priorities go, I'd give the Packers mostly high grades. The middle of the defense, somewhat lacking for many years, is now a strength. Watson, Doubs, and the signing of Watkins has refilled the WR cupboard. Special teams got a boost with the new receivers and a couple of other picks. I am excited about the potential of Enagbare.

The only thing that concerns me is the lack of safety depth; there's still a hole there. I thought we could have afforded to spend a third or fourth-rounder to patch it up. Also, it looks like we'll be counting on Deguara to step it up along with Tonyan returning to his old self when he's ready; I'm mildly surprised we didn't go for a prospect here.

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sjc28's picture

April 30, 2022 at 08:47 pm

What special te help. Why would you want WR's trying to tackle. Special teams coverage units should be made up of DB's and LB's. The back half of the Packers roster is void of speed and talent and that's why your special teams have been terrible since Ted Thompson was GM.

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Coldworld's picture

April 30, 2022 at 11:46 pm

Janis was rather a good gunner.

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NitschkeFan's picture

April 30, 2022 at 09:14 pm

splitpea1, I think you are correct about some concern re: TE and Safety. But you can't plug every hole in one draft. With the use of the #22 overall pick I expect we will see Walker instead of another Safety on a lot of plays so that may soften the blow (though there isn't much of a plan visible for 2023 and beyond at Safety).

They certainly strengthened some other positions and as almost every franchise's fanbase at this time of year, there is a sense of possibility and a future of beautiful mystery.

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Guam's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:17 am

I also was surprised at the lack of help for safety and wouldn't be surprised at a cheap veteran signing by training camp to help there. Also believe the lack of a high pick indicates the Packers intend to resign both Amos and Savage for 2023 and beyond.

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:10 am

The exercised 5th year option for Savage is a strong indicator he will get a new deal. Amos, I don't know but hope so. Really like the quiet, lead by example, Defensive and Team leader, AA.

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Oppy's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:37 pm

Amos is a great SS. but he'll be 30 heading into his next contract. ???

Savage has been inconsistent. Flashes some really eye opening range at times- there's once or twice (literally, once or twice) where I saw him cross from far hash to opposite sideline to break up a pass, reminded me of Nick Collins type ability to cover ground.. but it's just flashes. He's good, but not great, imo. I know he has had good numbers in 2020. I think Savage has to absolutely prove something in 2022 to get his long term contract. Alexander is a higher priority for extension than Savage in my opinion.

Ultimately, money becomes the question for these guys. Without the impact AR's contract has had on our cap over the next 4-5 seasons, I wouldn't really be concerned about if the Packers re-signed Savage or Amos. Now, I am constantly concerned about long term impact, because to keep talent around Rodgers, the Packers have to leverage future cap that should really be preserved for transitioning to the next era.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:19 pm

SP,
No matter how many sim drafts I did the most problematic position I had drafting was always at TE. The outcome didn't surprise me with no TE's. A guy you really like has to lineup just right for the value at a draft selection. Difficult!

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 02, 2022 at 11:36 am

When they went for Walker, it took the extra pick in the fourth designated for the TE value. Ruckert went in the third. They all went by the end of the fourth. W/out Walker the #59 is in play as well as #53 for McBride. He went #55; Jelani Woods and Ruckert went where they were slotted as third rounders. They must feel Tonyan will be back by Trick or Treat ? There will be Trades...?

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WestWi_Packfan's picture

April 30, 2022 at 09:08 pm

I was a little concerned about being able to trade up on day two and grab one of the 3 stud WR's left but it looks like Gute had it covered no problem with help from none other then our main division rival. Once this was accomplished I felt like we now have the potential to get back some of that production that left with Adams. Then Gute was lucky enough to still have a talent like Doubs on the board in the 4th was a pleasant surprise, we have two WR now who could possibly contribute immediately along with the excellent Defensive picks in the first.

What's not to like here Gute covered all the bases and this could turn out to be one of his better drafts

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Since'61's picture

April 30, 2022 at 10:10 pm

I'm thinking all of our selections Rounds 1-5 make the team. The round 7 picks are all question marks as I would expect. Overall it looks like an excellent job by Gute. I'm a little surprised that Gute didn't try to move up into the 6th round. Maybe he didn't have any takers or maybe he just didn't feel that the value was there. On to training camp. GPG! Thanks, Since '61

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MarkinMadison's picture

April 30, 2022 at 10:11 pm

So what the Dillon draft said to me (and I mean looking at the whole class, not focusing on one guy) was the MLF wanted to get serious about the run game and building off the play-action. What this draft says to me is that the Packers are serious about fixing the middle of the defense and special teams. The only way this draft gets better is if they had found a quality S and TE (and arguably Edge, but give Enagbare a shot people) but you can never get everything you need in one draft. I'm stoked.

Also, Zach Tom is the most Packer OL of the entire draft class. Three OL and three WR in this draft, plus two DTs and a ILB? Thanking care of the weak points for sure. Any future problems at safety may have to wait a year. FA TE anyone?

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Fubared's picture

April 30, 2022 at 10:45 pm

I give Gutt a C-.
1. He gave up a valuable 2 pick to our nemeis for a receiver that ya, he was pretty good at an FCS school with a league that didnt do a lot of press coverage so he didnt play in a physical environment. He wont be allowed to just run go routes without interference. Ditto the other guy we drafted too, he hasnt seen to tough side of the game yet.
2. Our two georgia picks should help stop the run in a passing league and help with the pass rush. the other OLB had the second slowest 40 time so he wont help with lateral runners, he lacks speed big time.
3. The O line will have some solid backups and should be able to weather injuries better. All of them except one can be moved around.
4. The analyst said our safety is too slow to play safety in the nfl and not big enough for linebacker so his fit is kind of iffy. Perhaps kick returner?
No overall I don't think compared to what the Vikes, Bears and Lions did and the talent they got, this was a very good draft. Other then Watson none of these names were on anyones mock boards. That in itself is head scratching

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:05 am

Our safety has an ideal ST profile and has experience there. Probably depth behind Walker as a short area coverage type. As to the rest, I presume you mean our first pick, because pretty much everyone else was drafted below value other than the one guy that you mention.

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:07 am

Only 7 of Ourlads Top 100 Players…

Put a sock in it.

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MarkinMadison's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:16 am

4. Carpenter ran a sub-4.5 at his pro-day. Guy has a 9.06 RAS as a safety. He is plenty fast enough for safety. And I think the trend is for larger/longer safeties to counter athletic TEs. I don't know who "the analyst" is but take that shit with a huge grain of salt. And, oh, he's a 7th round flyer. Nobody's counting on him for anything. Gutey found a guy who can play and has a 9.06 RAS in the 7th round. That's an A pick, not a C-.

3. I wouldn't underestimate any OL this organization chooses right now. C-? OK. You own that though in two years when we really know what we have.

2. Enagbare produced a lot in the SEC despite his "testing problem." 5th round? Not many options left on the board for quality edge players at that point. A guy projected as a 2nd rounder in the 5th is a C-? Not sure I agree with your math there.

1. Watson threw up 18 on bench press. Long strong arms and 4.3 speed? Why do you think he can't be taught to beat press coverage? C-? Own that one down the road too.

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NoNonsense's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:26 pm

Great points and just because Watson didn't face press coverage doesn't mean he can't beat it. Watch his feet for a guy thats 6'4", his feet are very quick and his agressiveness in the blocking game says he can out muscle most DBs at the LOS. Beating press is not a concern of mine with Watson. He absolutely killed it at the Senior Bowl against top competition. Not to mention with his speed, not many CBs are gonna be up on the line trying to press him I don't believe.

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MarkinMadison's picture

May 01, 2022 at 03:15 pm

Agree with you 100% there NoNonsense. His senior bowl reviews were really good, and yes, press this guy and fail and you are going to pay big time.

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BirdDogUni's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:33 pm

He's as smooth as a 25 year old single-malt scotch.

Watson is going to ball, period.

He's going to put in the work, Cobb, Watkins, and AR will get him up to speed. WR Coach will coach him up, and we'll just see who is right and who is wrong about Christian Watson pick.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 02, 2022 at 11:46 am

His old man played Safety in the NFL. He is schooled on breaking down DBs. It's all hand grab and release now anyway or they get the Flag. The kids in high school/college go to the Skills Camps the Pro Players conduct. They get better training now and are better in the weight room from grade six. It is all about speed to the spot, catch and RAC. La Fleur has at least 100 packages drawn up for Watson and Doubs as we blog.

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BAMABADGER's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:24 pm

Your either a closet Bears fan or ViQueen troll? Which one?

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 01, 2022 at 01:09 pm

I give you a D- for your comment. This draft will be graded 2 -3 years from now.

It is funny to see comments about how valuable a 2nd rounder is when a team uses it to get who they viewed as a first round talent.

If Gutey found a team to trade back late into the first round (Tampa at #27, for example) and draft Watson, the "draft experts" would have called it bold and decisive. Walker, Watson and Wyatt late first round?

Yet Gutey still got all three atop his board! I never entertained Wyatt being at #28. He was always gone in my simulations. Walker was a bit of a surprise only because I did not read up on his skills/production as much as other ILBs. After I did, my smile was as broad as when I read up on Jenks after he was drafted in the 2nd round.
Quay is a solid run stopper. What I did not know was how good he is rushing the passer between the tackles.

Gutey has found an all pro and top prospect to play ILB in less than a year...for the Pack! DC LB whisperer Barry and LB coach Olivadotti are going to have fun dialing up rush packages this season.

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Rob3980's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:02 pm

You legit have no clue what you are talking about . 😂

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

April 30, 2022 at 11:19 pm

Every year there is optimism and excitement following a draft. I believe over all Gutey did a good job in the 2022 draft. Im certainly pumped about the draft. I believe in Gutey!

There are some great players and draft picks that are going to really help the team for years to come particularly on defense. Presently, I believe the 2nd round may be the Achilles heel in this draft for Gutey preventing it from being a fantastic draft. The only way for us to know is watch and observe how Watson develops in the next several years. I'm going to be one of his best cheerleaders.

The 2022 draft will be defined by how successful Watson develops. Just like the 2020 draft will be defined by the Jordan Love selection and how he turns out. Interestingly enough Rodgers will play a huge part in whether either Love or Watson develop and flourish.

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greengold's picture

April 30, 2022 at 11:36 pm

I don’t know about that, simply because there was A LOT of good players added to this Packers roster this week.

7 of Ourlads Top 100. SEVEN!!! - out of 11 players total. Remarkable. Can’t wait to see the for reals a few years down the line…

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

May 01, 2022 at 03:09 am

That is reasonable. I think the lynch pin of this draft was Quay Walker. When he was selected with 22, the rest of the drafting dynamics and strategies changed. I agree this looks like a very good draft.

No one would bat an eye had Gute taken Wyatt at 22, Watson at 28 (okay, a little), McBride at 53 and either Edge Bonitto or ILB Asomoah at 59. And that does not include trading back opportunities. The "it takes two to tango" stuff seems misplaced as there were trades up, back, and sideways all over the place. That would have been a good draft, too.

Watson has to justify picks 53 and 59, but that is about the same as justifying pick 28. That's a given. Walker has more to justify and was the more surprising pick.

As far as that goes, moving up from 22 to 11 to select Olave or Jameson Williams probably take 53 and 171, or perhaps 140 if there is a premium. I don't like that as much as what Gutey actually did, but as always, it then depends on how good Olave or Williams turns out to be (and how soon to take into consideration CW's concerns 😄).

In the end, any player can define a draft. If Dillon is the next Marshawn Lynch, that's what will define the 2020 draft, though you're right that fans won't forget the Love pick. I like Wyatt, Cine, Watson a lot, too. I seem to have Wyatt and a receiver paired in the scenarios I like.

I like this draft. Now it up to the players selected and the coaches.

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:30 am

Yeah. It could just as easily go down as the Wyatt draft, or the Walker draft, or the Rhyan, the Engabare, the Doubs/Toure… as it could the Watson. Time will tell.

Gutekunst got some players. We are quite possibly witnessing over these last 3 drafts the building blocks of a new era.

Or, not. We’ll see. Looks good on paper…

Despite all that, in the moment, watching the picks go down, I was impressed as hell with Gutekunst time and time again, arguably walking away with a blue chip talent R-1-7.

7 Ourlads, 5 Athlon, 5 The Sporting News and 4 PFF Top 100 Players.

OT Rasheed Walker included in this group at Pick #249. EDGE Kingsley Engabare made all 4 of those lists at Pick #179.

Let’s remember too, how readily these players taken project into known roles. You could just see it in each player. The Micah Parsons prototype in Quay Walker. The Kenny Clark prototype in Wyatt. The MVS prototype - albeit one I suspect to be a far better, improved version in Watson. The Bulaga prototype in Rhyan. This could go on… Jenkins-Tom… Slaton-Ford… Is Tariq Carpenter a Kam Chancellor prototype? Is that where Joe Barry is going? Puzzle pieces.

Point is, we can see the players as fitting into distinctive roles, one’s offering dynamic possibilities and versatility, variety. Can almost see the schemes coming together… the puzzle pieces fitting…O. D. ST.

Funny, we all nod yes to our needing a Slot WR… a very distinctive player of a kind… and, BOOM! … there’s Toure, pick #258… and, A VERY SOLID PICK at that. Wow.

Well done thus far, Brian Gutekunst.

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stockholder's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:24 pm

When Detroit Made the move for Williams. The demand went up. We're Lucky to have Watson. Both the @53 and @59 are outside the top 50 players. So you would have gotten projects. The only knock I saw on Walker. Was he played too cautious. Thats All. He has the tools to be a very good ILB.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:27 pm

TGR,
1,000% agree that the whole draft dynamics and strategy changed once Quay was drafted. The only difference was I anticipated an Edge in round 1 with Wyatt. The move up in round 2 further eliminated the possibility of an elite Edge selection. I love the draft but only wish somehow we could have added that special Edge rusher. That is the ONLY downer for me.

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stockholder's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:43 pm

Nobody liked the edge guys. I mocked them.
22. Christian Watson. WR. ND state
#28. Arnold Ebiketie. LB. Penn st.
#53. David Ojabo. LB. MICH.
#59. LEO Chenal. LB. WI
#92. Carson Strong. QB
#132. Cole Strange. G. Chattanooga
#140. Tycen Anderson. S. Toledo
#171. Matt Araiza. P/PK SD State
#228. Kevin Austin. WR ND
#249. Dane Belton. DB. Iowa
#258. Micah McFadden. LB.

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BirdDogUni's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:28 pm

I'm not so sure we didn't get that special Edge rusher when we drafted Quay Walker at 22.
While his primary position might be ILBer, Quay might, (I say might, because I don't know for sure) be used in much the same way Micah Parsons was used last year by Dallas.

He certainly has the measurables to be that type of player. Quay didn't get he hype Parsons did, but I feel like the Scouting Department were sent on a mission by Barry and Gutey to find us our own version of the "Parsons Project" and they came up with the Quay Walker theory.

The reason for my suspicions is because I've sat through at least the last 15 - 17 drafts and had some very good ILBers passed over when the need was obvious. Now, all of a sudden, after Campbell has a great year and Parsons has a great rookie season, we all of a sudden see ILBer as a need? I don't think so. I've often thought having two wicked ILBers in a 3 - 4 was mandatory for success, but it seems the Packers haven't felt that way, until now.

Why? Why now do they sign Campbell to a healthy contract for an older player and then spend the 22 overall pick on another one, when we've passed on plenty of good/great ILBers?

I know I'm just guessing, but I believe it's because Barry has a vision of using Walker all over the defense, including as an Edge rusher. Personally, I think it's a great idea. Keep the QBs guessing.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

May 01, 2022 at 11:22 pm

This seems plausible. Have to wait to find out. Not sure I want Walker learning two positions.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 02, 2022 at 12:12 pm

Yes, in the sense he can come from the MKE to the Six tech, to Edge, but it will be from 4-2 looks and some 5-2 attacking. I would run game theory iterations with him and Campbell. Now the blitz guy has a guy to cover for the middle release by the TEs or RBs( if they can get out of pass pro). A good problem to have, no doubt.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

April 30, 2022 at 11:44 pm

"Most of us have gotten so used to the Packers devaluing the ILB position"

Gald that's done. Now I can stop ridiculing Elliot Wolfs stupid quote and forget it was ever uttered.

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:34 am

Right? Elliott Wolf… stole my buddy’s girlfriend in HS… fun little sidebar.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:28 pm

Don't be such a tease....please share the details?

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

May 02, 2022 at 07:52 pm

Hard to beet those box seats.

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SnakePigskin's picture

April 30, 2022 at 11:49 pm

Lest anyone forgot, Sir Donald Driver was a 7th rounder, and, Jennings, Cobb, Adams, and Nelson were all 2nd rounders. Translation: No worries with these picks.

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barutanseijin's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:11 am

Well sure, but the immortal Pat Lee & Brian Brohm were also second rounders and a whole buncha guys whose names i don’t remember were drafted in the 7th.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:34 am

Quite a few of you have commented on how you are concerned that we didn't draft a safety or tight end. Let me calm you a bit.

I too, went in thinking we'd draft both, I wanted Dax Hill in the first and a TE in the third.

BUT That was before two things:

1. Safety: BG drafted a three-down LB with pick 22. I don't care WHO it was (Walker was my fifth-rated ILB), because BG knows WAY more about the players than I do, and I'm a dedicated, experienced, draftnik! :-D Moving to a three-down LB means they are moving AWAY from a third safety/CB on the field. I also fell in love with Innis Gaines game tape last year, so I'm hoping they see him or Vernon Scott as better than this draft's options.

2. Tight End: Before the draft, I commented on this board that "we don't know what BG/MLF think of Tyler Davis" because I was impressed with what we saw of him--very Big Bob-like. Lo and behold, yesterday MLF comments about not taking a TE that they "see something" in Davis. With Lewis, Tonyan, and DeGuara, plus Davis, there really aren't any open TE slots on the roster. This was underscored by them not picking up any of the UDFA tight ends either.

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MarkinMadison's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:27 am

I was surprised they didn't pick up a late-round TE, and not even an UDFA TE so far. I love Tonyan but his availability is very much in question and Lewis is very much year-to-year. An investment in the future would not have hurt.

Lots of folks here have been expecting the Packers to decline Savage's 5th year option and to pick up a S this year to replace Amos or Savage next year. Gutey was clearly in a mood to fill current needs (three WR + three OL + middle of the D) instead of planning for Amos' departure. I'm fine with it, but I understand both sides of the argument. Also, Carpenter has the potential to be a safety.

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BirdDogUni's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:53 pm

It seems everyone is assuming Carpenter will play a LB type role. What if he can play true Safety position? We know he can contribute on STs, but what if he develops into an every down NFL Safety?

Tbh, I've always wanted a 6' 3" 230lb Safety. ; )

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:42 pm

Anything is possible, though he’s not particularly agile, more stiff hipped than one would like. Fast in a straight line Gute said that apart from special teams they see him as playing a bit of S and ILB, but that he’s here because of his ST skills. Let’s see what he can do from there.

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BirdDogUni's picture

May 01, 2022 at 09:15 pm

Lol - That's why I said what "if" he develops into an every down Safety...

Develop means in a year or three to me.

Just saying, it would be wicked nice to have that kind of size at the Safety position, especially in certain situations.

Hell, he's a 7th round pick, so contributing on STs for 4 years is awesome, but what if he were to develop? You know, kind of like Donald Driver did, but at the Safety position. Don't get me wrong Cw. I know the odds are long, but it's fun to consider. I don't mean to imply he's going to develop into Ed Reed, but a viable starting Safety would be great too, especially for a 7th round pick.

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PhantomII's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:42 am

I thought Safety because both are coming to an end of contract. Not sure where that goes. I agree our DC seems to be going traditional 2-S and 2-3 CB and 2-ILB. Our DL and ILB upgrade will be collapsing many pockets this season and getting after the QB. All these work together to hurry the passer into making bad decisions , incompletions, INT, TFL and sacks.

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stockholder's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:30 pm

If They couldn't get Hill or McBride. Forget it. Savage got the extension. That was the end of your safety. And with Douglas resigning. It wasn't going to happen. Josiah Deguara must make that leap. Gutey will protect his picks. Plain and simple!

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 03:13 pm

I think their hope is Tyler Davis as the all around TE. They probably saw him as one of the best TEs were he on the board. They also picked up Alize Mack, whom many rated as a significant prospect (and many did not). Perhaps the Packers felt so too. Gute has said that he believes most TEs need time in the league before they are ready to fulfil potential. Deguara is a different beast. Hopefully we use him as the H or F back more fully.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:30 pm

Good information! I had not seen that and likely explained the absence of no TE.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

May 01, 2022 at 11:27 pm

Agree that Tyler Davis belongs in the NFL, and not just as a special teamer. I don't know what his ceiling is, but he should get some snaps on offense for sure.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 02, 2022 at 12:17 pm

Shawn Davis is probably the third safety. He knows his position on the field. SEC guy.

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GregC's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:38 am

Strengthening the middle of the defense with the top two picks was a really nice idea. The Packers D has been soft in the middle for a long time--not as bad last year, but improvement was still needed. These draft picks may put the Mike ("You can fly to Miami a lot faster than you can walk there") Petine era squarely in the rear-view mirror, where it belongs.

It was a shame to have to trade up so far to get a high quality WR prospect. I got the impression that the draft did not fall their way, so they were forced into Plan B or Plan C. On the other hand, this scenario was not unexpected, and the Packers had the ammunition to move up and get that much-needed WR, so I'm fine with the move.

It was disappointing to get no help at TE and only a very iffy prospect at OLB. A couple of the O-linemen they drafted look potentially very good. Failures on the OL were arguably the biggest factor in the last two playoff losses, so hopefully these guys help to shore things up if the injury bug hits the OL again.

Overall, it looks like a good draft, but the lack of help at TE and OLB may come back to bite them.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

May 01, 2022 at 06:18 am

Like I said above you, I really don't think BG/MLF saw anyone who was going to beat out the guys they already have in the TE room, including Davis. At least not when the Packers' turns came up.

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GregC's picture

May 01, 2022 at 06:59 am

Yeah, it's too bad, because when Tonyan went down, the level of play at TE was very poor the rest of the season. I'm hoping that Deguara's unimpressive performance last season was due to his previous ACL injury and that he will come back with a little more spring in his step this year. Also of course I hope Tonyan comes back fully from his injury. The TE group looks pretty shaky right now.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 02, 2022 at 12:32 pm

They took Rhyan in lieu of Ruckert, Kolar, Otten, Krull, Bellinger and really all of the other guys who seemed to be off the board by the end of round four. I think they wanted a TE as Waller was targeted in trade talks. They will be dealing prior to Summer Camp.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:26 am

"I got the impression that the draft did not fall their way, so they were forced into Plan B or Plan C."

I got the opposite impression; I think it went better than BG expected--maybe not the way he thought, but better.

It's possible that he thought he would get one of London/Williams/Olave/Burks/Wilson, and then draft Walker at 28, and see who was around at 53 and 59.

But it also is possible that he planned on Walker at 22 and Watson at 28, but was surprised when Wyatt was available there. So, after "lucking into" Wyatt, he had to trade up to get either Watson or Pickens, and did.

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BirdDogUni's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:04 pm

I think your second scenario is exactly right.

I think he was definitely surprised Wyatt fell into his lap at 28 and was forced to go get Watson at 34 because he was his guy.

I'm probably one of the few, but I am very happy all of those WRs went early. I think Watson will be the player the Packers need and the fans will love.

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NoNonsense's picture

May 01, 2022 at 06:49 am

I 100% agree with the posters regarding Walker at 22. We can never know but if they just drafted Wyatt at 22, Watson at 28, Walker may have still been available at 53 or 59. Can't be many big boards that had him going in the 20s in the first or 2nd round when the highly regarded Georgia LB Nakobe Dean lasted till the 3rd round.

I don't have a problem with them trading the 2 2nds for Watson though, a lot of people want to compare him to MVS but this guy is a much different animal. Go watch a YouTube video named "Why Christian Watson is my favorite prospect in the 2022 NFL draft." If you aren't excited about his potential after watching that than you are quite possibly dead inside, JK.

The Vikings are responsible now for allowing Detroit and GB to draft 2 incredible WR prospects and responded by drafting a S in the 1st round and 3 other CBs, probably smart considering those two additions to the division and Velus Jones Jr. to the Bears.

I wanted Khalil Shakir and maybe even Calvin Austin III over Romeo Doubs but I'll be happy to be wrong about that.

I like all 3 OL picks, glad they added some more depth to that room.

Enagbare I took a bunch in my mock drafts in the 2nd and 3rd round so to get him at the end of round 5 and pick up another 7th, that was a good move and got us back up to 11 picks. Easily the best value pick for the Pack.

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MarkinMadison's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:29 am

This ain't no mock draft show or simulator. If the Packers had him valued that highly then they had to assume others did as well. Ain't no display board telling you where this guy is going to go when you are doing it live and for real.

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NoNonsense's picture

May 01, 2022 at 02:02 pm

Well GB had their big board, the consensus big board and Daniel Jeremiah's of NFL network draft coverage, who seemed pretty right on in on his top 150 board but you are right there's no way to really know how other teams valued Walker.

If they took him at 22 with Wyatt still on the board then suffice to say they had a high grade on the guy. After seeing what Campbell did in this defense, after 5 yrs of good not great play in Atlanta and Arizona, it makes me think that Walker will be put in a very good position to succeed.

With Devondre as his running mate he shouldn't have to be the guy right away, he can just be a complimentary piece next to an All pro, behind a damn fine defensive line with a pretty wicked secondary behind him. Makes me smile just thinking about it.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:33 pm

NoNonsense!
Agree with you about Khalil and Austin. Interestingly enough they were both drafted by the Steelers. I like what they did in the draft and will be interesting to see how they turn out.

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NoNonsense's picture

May 01, 2022 at 02:13 pm

The Bills drafted Shakir in the 5th before our pick there. Steelers got Pickens at 52 and Austin at 138, 6 picks after GB got Doubs and 2 picks before selecting Zach Tom. So GB chose Doubs over Austin and Shakir, we will see how that works out.

If its any indication those two teams know WRs so they are probably gonna be real good players in this league.

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HarryHodag's picture

May 01, 2022 at 07:23 am

Overall, the draft is ok. Not a great draft like the Jets or Lions, but a good draft. They even got two of the players I had in my final personal mock draft: Watson and Toure.

The only head scratcher I had was not drafting a tight end. This was not a great year for tight ends but unless something happens there they will go into the season with Tonyan on a bum leg and one year deal, Mercedes Lewis is as old as Methuselah, Josiah Deguara is still unproven and Daffney and Mack are hardly household names. That position, key in Matt LF's offense, is hardly one that evokes fear in opponents.

But it is clear the Packers defense is something to reckon with and it's about damn time. They also found some players for special teams and deep backup. Yes! Doubs and Toure will get long looks as returners.

While Gute said they needed help along the offensive line backup roles, drafting three o-lineman might have been one too many.

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WestWi_Packfan's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:23 am

Not only did they not draft a TE, looking at their undrafted FA's at this time, I dont see one either. Was this a bad year for TE's or did they just forget to address that position? I would look for them to either sign a vet FA or look for a training camp cut but its surprising they didn't grab at least one so far.

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HawkPacker's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:27 pm

Agreed. I look for Gute to make a deal for a TE or WR after June 1. I think he is going to release Dean Lowry to save on the CAP and have the necessary funds to go get someone or to sign someone that will be cut at some point. Some believe Lowry is doing a great job. Imho, I think he does an okay job but with the recent signing/draft, I gotta think Gute is going to make a change and get a TE with some experience.

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Turophile's picture

May 01, 2022 at 01:55 pm

It was generally acknowledged to be a very deep year for TE. No special top guy though, and most of the prospects had holes in their game. There were good blockers (Mc,Bride, Otton), good athletes (Woods, Okonkwo) or good pass catchers (Likely, Kolar), but not all three. McBride was the closest to that, but went at #55, so rather between picks, once the Packers traded up in round 2.

The Packers could certainly have picked up a TE, but obviously they didn't both like a particular player enough and find him available at the pick they were prepared to spend on him.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 03:45 pm

It was a pretty bad year for TE’s, particularly rounded ones.

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stockholder's picture

May 02, 2022 at 12:19 am

The Ravens had the best draft. They go with BPA now.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 02, 2022 at 12:37 pm

Scheme fits that cover for their QBs.

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murf7777's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:33 am

Very much a needs draft.

We needed to stop the run, ok two first round picks, we can check that box. Wr’s, ok trade up and get’em and lets get a couple more….check…..OL, yes let’s take 3 of them…..check…..ST’s, yes, many of the picks are ready to contribute…..check. Good job Gutey for checking most, if not all of the major need boxes.

In a few years, we will be able to tell if you were successful in picking each player. GPG

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PatrickGB's picture

May 01, 2022 at 08:29 am

The Packers struggled through a huge cap issue this year. We kept our MVP QB and many quality players. We addressed needs in the draft and picked up good potential. I bet that Gutie will keep moving pieces around with UDFA and players during cut downs. This draft is only the start.

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mrtundra's picture

May 01, 2022 at 09:00 am

This was a great draft. I am very excited to see these guys on the field in Green and Gold. Gute did a great job amassing talent, especially when you consider he did all of this starting with the 22nd pick of the draft. People say Detroit and the Jets had great drafts, but both of those teams were lousy, last year, and for many years, now, and started drafting in the Top 5 this year. Tons of talent in the top 15 picks of this draft. Gute found talent, for several rounds. GO PACK, GO!!!

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frankthefork's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:03 am

A very good draft by the Packer's FO. Picks fill many holes and provide quality competition. Half will be starters in year 2 and others will be better than the current back-ups.
keep an eye on RB and LB Goodson and Brooks- 2 UDFA's I think may get on the final 53!
Well done Gutey...and CHTV for the great coverage!
It's now 90 down to 53; with 16 to the PS. GPG.

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HawkPacker's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:29 pm

Not that high on Goodson and watched him a bunch the last few years. He does not like getting hit! I have seen him actually back up a bit when getting tackled rather than trying to get another yard or two after contact. He should have stayed in school another year.

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Jaqu’eau's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:13 am

Love the use of Rodgers providing misinformation on McAfee. Clearly, they had a first round grade on Watson. Refreshing change from the distraction he became last year.

I bet the packers had a higher grade on Doubs and Enagbare than where they were drafted.

On the subject of value, especially surrounding the Watson pick; while each player is an individual selection, they are being selected to play in the context of a team. And the art of forming good teams is not strictly about the value of each individual member, but how they boost the value of the entire team. It is clear that Gute feels that Watson, Wyatt, and Walker elevate the potential of this team substantially.

The thing i like about this draft is that there is an ease to which the drafted players gel with Gute’s emerging vision.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:36 pm

Jaques,
Agree and eloquently stated!

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 01:08 pm

Altogether, I find this to be pretty damned exciting.

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:16 am

Great draft on paper...now get them in meeting rooms and on the practice field and let the coaches get to work unleashing the skills. I don't have the answer, but is this the most athletic and productive college draft class in Packers' history?

The only pick that looked like a whiff was Ford, DT. His hope is to show enough to make the PS. But the other 10 prospects all have a chance to make the 53, especially late picks to help Bisaccia create ST competence.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:29 am

Yeah, Ford doesn't fit the Packers' D very well, but he is supposed to be very experienced as a K/P lineman, and lord knows ours were awful last year.

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Coldworld's picture

May 01, 2022 at 03:50 pm

Lancaster replacement who can play ST and may have some upside.

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PackfanNY's picture

May 01, 2022 at 06:33 pm

Yeah, I liked everything about the Draft except the Ford pick. I get every pick is not going to be amazing. However, I read something about coaches in Miami getting after him and he’s a “sometimes” motor guy. Maybe it’s overstated but didn’t sound great. I don’t see him beating anyone out unless it’s replacing someone to cut salary. In fairness, Have to give him a chance maybe he’ll surprise.

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Swisch's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:29 am

I think a tight end already on the roster who could be ready to break out is Dominique Dafney.

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:36 am

Yeah...after the very few top TEs were off the board, the current TE room was as talented, or more so, than any remaining prospects.

I wonder if Fergerson would have been drafted if he wasn't grabbed a few spots before the Packers in the 4th (took Doubs, who I really like)?

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PressBias's picture

May 01, 2022 at 10:50 am

Good overall draft, pick 22 could have been Watson and pick 53 could have been McBride, which he went at 55. The consensus best TE in the draft. I believe the Packers thought 1 of the top tier receivers would still be available. Then they were roasted by the press the next day for not taking 1 in the 1st round. By 53 the next day there might be very little left. At that point they needed to trade up and it was the right move. Did not have to happen. Who would you rather have, McBride or Quay Walker?

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stockholder's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:33 pm

Gutey had to finish building the Defense. Josiah Deguara was to be your TE until Tonyan returns.

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stockholder's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:36 pm

I should add: Lazard will be lining up at TE. The Run and Shoot has come to GB.

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BAMABADGER's picture

May 01, 2022 at 12:38 pm

Easy, Quay Walker. Next question.

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greengold's picture

May 01, 2022 at 05:51 pm

QUAY WALKER.

“Consensus best TE,” means little in one of the weakest TE classes in years. Trey McBride had no business being anywhere near R1.

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stockholder's picture

May 02, 2022 at 12:27 am

TE- that just might be why @53 and @ 59 got traded. The only way to look at this is. Those two picks were outside the top 50. Ojabo and Pickens were injured, and still went early. But Dean didn't.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 02, 2022 at 10:56 am

I would be willing to bet a big bag of potatoes that the Packer personnel department has extensive notes, and film, of every TE in the last dozen drafts and every snap they took. They'll be looking at guys during cutdowns and if there's one that they like, we'll be ready.

Math: We keep 4 TEs on the 53, and usually have 3 active.
Lewis, because he's a dependable vet who can get his guy blocked.
Deguara, because he's our best blocking/receiving combination TE
Daffney, as a blocker
Davis, as the gameday inactive.

When/if Tonyan comes back, we'll make room for him. If another TE becomes available during cutdowns, we can make room for him. Neither Daffney nor Davis is instrumental to our success this year.

That's our TE situation, and it's unlikely to change between now and opening day. It's basically the same as last year. It's basically the same group of guys that we've gone 39-10 with. I was thinking/hoping we'd get a blue chip, but it didn't work out that way.

BUT NEXT YEAR. I'd anticipate Lewis retiring, Tonyan will be an older FA, and Deguara will be in the final year of his contract. So sooner or later, we're going to have to add somebody.

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golfpacker1's picture

May 01, 2022 at 04:07 pm

I am overall pleased with this draft. Different picks I would have made Jermaine Johnson,edge rusher Fla ST. @ 22. That was a steal and that we missed to take a really good (but not even 4th best rated) LB that we could have got @ 59. I also would have either taken Watson @ 28. He was a 1st round talent that other teams will be sorry they missed on him. I really wanted a trade back like Tampa Bay got. What a gift to drop to 33 and get 2 other picks to boot. Then we could have drafted Watson without flushing that other 2nd round pick. My defensive line crush Travis Jones was still available and I would pick him over Wyatt everytime. Just as much pass rush and better run defender. Keeping # 53 and #59 also gives us a good option on a TE (all except Woods available) or a top safety. Plus if Green Bay gets the trade back that Tampa Bay got, we would have had the 1st pick of the 4th round for trading or picking. This was a very good draft that could have been even better, maybe the best of 2022. I am thrilled the Packers at least now realized the value of a great ILB and Walker could allow us to move away from Devondre in 2023 to save $15 million.

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