Let's Talk Football: Jordan Love

Susanna Kalas is tired of the drama surrounding the Packers first round pick and rightfully wants to put the focus on the field when it comes to the team's new quarterback.

Meet our new intern, Susanna, who is clearly already the smartest person in the entire operation. 

11 points

Comments (30)

Fan-Friendly This filter will hide comments which have ratio of 5 to 1 down-vote to up-vote.
4zone's picture

May 01, 2020 at 11:19 am

Keep your voice steady instead of trailing off at the end of sentences. Makes it hard to hear everything. But keep on keep'n on, you'll be fine. Thanks for the breakdown.

+ REPLY
-1 points
2
3
greengold's picture

May 01, 2020 at 11:44 am

I agree with you Susanna. Seems to me this was ALL ABOUT Brian Gutekunst doing his due diligence as the GM of the Green Bay Packers, and nothing more.

Love looks to be the EXACT prototype of what the Packers look for in a QB, as you mentioned, and with AR turning 36, not finished by any means, but getting up there in age for a starting QB in the NFL, with 4 more years on his contract, it seems incredibly prudent for Gutekunst to make the minor investment of the 3rd pick from the bottom of Round 4 to jump up and secure him in a Packers uniform for his team's future. This allows for an adequate amount of time for him to develop, learning how to play at the NFL level from the best in the business, without any pressure.

Should Aaron suffer an injury along the way, God forbid, Love may turn out to be one of the best backup QBs we've seen in GB since Mark Brunell. Having a more sure QB as a backup, one who perfectly fits your scheme, can go a long way to helping continuity in a playoff run, should AR get something minimal like a twisted ankle or whatever, keeping the Packers in a good position in a run to the playoffs, and playoff positioning to win a Super Bowl.

So many fans have been up in arms over the trade up and selection of Jordan Love, but, it is not like there is a talent such as he in every draft, nor every other. You get what I'm saying. I really do not believe Gutekunst and his staff thought he would drop into an accessible range for them to acquire the selection to pick him, but when he kept dropping, and no one was taking Love, regarded by many as a Top 20 selection or better, Gutekunst understood his plans may have to change with his possible future successor to Aaron Rodgers right there for the picking.

I do not believe for a second GB is going to run AR out of town, as many in mainstream media like to promote for advertising dollars and click bait, which is cheap. Rather, I think there will be an honest competition for the starting spot, Rodgers will win that competition over the next 2, 3, 4 years (?), hopefully winning titles along the way while Jordan Love soaks in all of the knowledge and experience to one day take over the reins, and continue a winning tradition here.

Knowing Aaron Rodgers as one of the best competitors in the game, I do think we will be seeing some magic happen on the field through this tenure, and I'm glad to know we have a GM who is willing to make the tough decisions like this one to insure top level play from his QB position, hopefully for another decade or more. Hell, the added competition may heighten Aaron's game too. I'm not seeing a downside here.

Fans saying we needed weapons, well, Gutekunst has loaded up our WR group with talent, though not in readily recognizable or high profile manners, but take a look at highlights from the players he added at WR this offseason, couple that with continued development of the players they've already added previously, which is important to consider, and we really are stacked with dynamic players, more so than going into 2019.

Also, who is to say Jordan Love won't be a weapon himself? This is a tough game, and players do get injured. Another consideration is it is quite possible Jordan Love develops quickly enough to help carry the load throughout the season in situations where the Packers have the game in hand, allowing Rodgers to rest, and not be exposed to undue injury by taking some 4Q snaps...

Those pointing to his 2019 numbers as a downside must consider how he was compromised losing 4 of his OL and 3 of his WRs from 2018, while starting 2019 with a brand new system & HC. Glad you mentioned that aspect, Susanne, of his humility in not using that as en excuse for his dip in numbers. Watch his 2018 highlights to get a better feel for the talent Jordan Love brings to GB, and I think many may change their minds. TOP talent.

The selections of Dillon and Deguara are also highly skilled, dynamic talents added as options for Aaron Rodgers to utilize. Deguara had more receptions, yards and TDs in the same amount of time at U Cincinnati as Travis Kelce, a 5-Time Pro Bowl TE. He is no slouch, and a great receiving target, blocker, and versatile as all get out.

This addition of Jordan Love came as a surprise to me just like many, but there really are some great benefits fans should consider with his addition to this team as a 1st Round pick. Very solid work by Brian Gutekunst to look after both the present and the future of the Green Bay Packers.

+ REPLY
6 points
13
7
jannes bjornson's picture

May 04, 2020 at 11:38 am

Trading the four pick is not much different than a high # five. What is the whining about? Make deals, never let the accountants run your show.

+ REPLY
3 points
3
0
jannes bjornson's picture

May 04, 2020 at 11:41 am

Yost and Wells leave for T-Tech and Andersen comes back on board at Utah State, you do the math.

+ REPLY
1 points
1
0
stockholder's picture

May 01, 2020 at 01:12 pm

QB Jordan Love.
"GM picks player" wouldn't normally qualify as breaking news, but it's been a pervasive rumor/perception over the past week that LaFleur drove the Love selection to send a message to ever-cranky Aaron Rodgers. Demovsky points out that Gutekunst began scouting quarterbacks during the run up to last year's draft, and actually attended one of Love's games in person in 2019. The line has been getting blurrier many places, but the Packers have maintained a structure of strict front office control over the 53-man roster. While both the local and national consensus has been that Rodgers will be less than thrilled with Love's arrival, the quarterback himself has not made waves, either directly or via leak.

SOURCE: ESPN
Apr 30, 2020, 10:20 PM ET

+ REPLY
4 points
7
3
Tabin's picture

May 01, 2020 at 03:06 pm

That is the only possible narrative for them. Otherwise this will put MLF in a difficult position. "Hey Aaron could you help my guy jordan to take your job"

+ REPLY
-3 points
0
3
Lphill's picture

May 01, 2020 at 09:37 pm

Love won’t be ready to play this year and maybe not next year , people here are saying it’s good to have him in case Rodgers gets hurt , if so again we have no viable backup , if I was Rodgers I would announce my retirement right before the season begins . I hope he does.

+ REPLY
-6 points
1
7
nygary's picture

May 03, 2020 at 12:24 pm

Lphill I hate to break it to you but he would never do that. Its called money my friend. Thats's the bottom line.

+ REPLY
2 points
2
0
nygary's picture

May 03, 2020 at 12:24 pm

Lphill I hate to break it to you but he would never do that. Its called money my friend. Thats's the bottom line.

+ REPLY
0 points
0
0
Leatherhead's picture

May 04, 2020 at 11:17 am

I’ve been asked to train my replacement. It’s something that happens. Then your only question is whether you’re going to be a good guy or a dick.

+ REPLY
0 points
1
1
Qoojo's picture

May 01, 2020 at 01:30 pm

If Rodgers goes down, there is no quality backup.

Now put yourself in Gute's and MLF's shoes. Would you risk your job or hang your future on Rodgers playing every game for the next two+ years? Because that's what you would be doing if you kept the status quo with the QB backup situation.

Now whether Love is the correct QB is whole different conversation. Also, I am not buying the media junk that this is about sending Rodgers a message.

+ REPLY
17 points
19
2
mamasboy's picture

May 02, 2020 at 02:51 pm

I'd be surprised if they got rid of Boyle . He's likely to be #2 at least to start the year. There is no way they would throw Love to the wolves if Rodgers goes down.

+ REPLY
0 points
1
1
Alberta_Packer's picture

May 01, 2020 at 05:52 pm

Alas Susanna, it is both drama and hype which largely fuels sports entertainment these days - especially as perpetuated by the competing media interests. (This is why I favor Cheesehead TV - for it's closer to grassroots content and open forums). So away from this poorly scripted adult drama - to Jordan Love - whom I believe will the Packers starting QB - 2 to 3 years from now.

+ REPLY
3 points
5
2
Rick5952's picture

May 01, 2020 at 07:09 pm

Welcome Susanna and good luck to you.

+ REPLY
7 points
7
0
Tarynfor12's picture

May 02, 2020 at 12:38 am

This kid needs a lot of work and just maybe, a bit too much work, which will leave him becoming a good QB but NOT a franchise QB. The FO must have worked hard on convincing themselves that he's the future.

They got him and I'll hope as much as I can, but he better show some serious play next camp because the Rodgers era is running out of time fast for the SB that has been expected since 2011. Unless the new Love adorers have already moved their hopes to him, as MLF and the FO are allowing it to appear that they have.

+ REPLY
-8 points
1
9
Coldworld's picture

May 02, 2020 at 01:13 pm

Unless you are a savant, no way of knowing Love’s future. Since he was not a consensus first pick, professional evaluators are unsure beyond his physical tools.

In taking the negative you back the odds and your own track record. I find it hard to give you the credit if the die fall your way.

You are the type of person who would have said of a predecessor "arm was weak and he was too passive and nice to develop the presence necessary for a championship quarterback." Bart Starr, by the way.

+ REPLY
2 points
3
1
Tarynfor12's picture

May 02, 2020 at 02:39 pm

I don't and have never claimed to be a savant, that's a description your ilk place on anyone who disagrees with your views as a defense. I could say same about you and others because of your views based solely on optimism for optimisms' sake.

The smartest bettor is the one who knows and accepts that 'Joe Public' or 'optimist' bet with their hearts and why the sports books make bank from them constantly. Sure, they get a win here and there, but it isn't near enough to keep betting from the heart. I'm heartless in this arena and I certainly won't bet on Love at this point and likely not until 5 years in, if he makes that long. If I'm wrong, so be it, but I'll be making bank until then.

+ REPLY
-2 points
0
2
jannes bjornson's picture

May 04, 2020 at 11:47 am

Alex Smith was "their" consensus first pick, How did that turn out? You have to trust your eyes on what these guys do in games. Love and Burrows were the two top QBs in this class.

+ REPLY
1 points
1
0
WisconsinStrong's picture

May 02, 2020 at 09:42 pm

Love this! Gets me hyped for the year/s ahead. True Packers fans root first, analyze second (astute analysis here, by the way), and whine last. Go Pack Go!

+ REPLY
2 points
2
0
Harold Drake's picture

May 03, 2020 at 08:17 am

Well done, Susanna! Go Pack Go! (I will continue praying, however, for the Packers to trade for an elite WR or find one via salary cap cuts.)

+ REPLY
0 points
1
1
Bear's picture

May 03, 2020 at 01:40 pm

Some information on an article I read.

Correlation between Draft Position and "Starter Status"
Using Pro Football Reference as a resource, I looked at all players who were classified as starters at the beginning of the 2014 season to determine what round they were drafted in upon entering the league.  Of the 595 players designated as such, the results reveal the following:

Nearly 30% of all starters were 1st round draft picks when drafted into the league;
-          Roughly 30% were taken in either the 2nd or 3rd round;
-          Roughly 26% were taken in either rounds 4 through 7;
-          Undrafted players (14%) were the 3rd most likely group to comprise 2014’s starters…only behind 1st round (30%) and 2nd round (18%) picks.

+ REPLY
3 points
3
0
Leatherhead's picture

May 04, 2020 at 12:09 pm

But starting QBs are way more than 30 %.

Stafford, Trubisky, Rodgers, Jones, Wentz, Haskins, Ryan, Goff, Murray.

Early second.....Brees, Prescott, Garrapolo.

That’s just the NFC and doesn’t include Newton or Winston.

The moral of the story is that if you want good quarterbacking, you just about have to spend a high draft choice. And some of them are going to bust but you still have to take the shot. If it doesn’t work out you need to take another. You can hope you’ll strike gold later in the draft, and it does happen, but that’s kind of a shaky plan, IMO

+ REPLY
2 points
2
0
greengold's picture

May 05, 2020 at 10:25 am

No doubt, Leatherhead. Can't win if you don't take the shot! Why not make it a high percentage shot?

This was more about all of MIA 18, LV 19 and JAX 20 not taking the winning shot, when they needed it!!!! SHOCKING, really. GB needed the shot sometime in the next couple of years, saw Love dropping unexpectedly, and took action. SF probably should have taken that shot as well, as Garappalo is more question mark than sure thing, and they passed at 25 to take Aiyuk.

I think that may have sealed the deal for Gutekunst and he went and got him. Smart play with IND looking to trade up again to take Jordan Love. Future, based on Green Bay's assessment secured at QB. Talk about a GM doing his due diligence and what is best for the future of his team... Time will tell, but I like the dedication to their own scouting and evaluations of team needs.

+ REPLY
1 points
1
0
geronamaker's picture

May 03, 2020 at 02:41 pm

I want to say this carefully but I'm sure will be misunderstood anyway.

Aaron Rodgers is still a very capable NFL QB and can still make the throws. But his play declined noticeably over the past couple years. Last year he was basically the 7th rated QB in the NFL. This is very good, enough to lead certain teams and offenses to the Super Bowl. However, it is not good enough to lead an Aaron Rodgers/Mike McCarthy style pass first vertical offense to the SB.
Injuries have taken a toll and yes he had only one great wide receiver last year, but AR has lost a step or step and a half.

And the offense seemed more in synch centered around Aaron Jones the games Davante missed.

LaFleur was hired to run his offense not AR's. He deserves the players he needs to do so. AR will come out of the gate feeling slighted and chip-shouldered.

That's a good thing!

If he comes back strong and they get past the NFC Championship Game (not done since 2010 season) I will be first to applaud. If not, then drafting/developing Love appears to be the timely move and the young QB should be given every opportunity to be fulltime starter in 2022.

+ REPLY
5 points
6
1
Leatherhead's picture

May 03, 2020 at 04:43 pm

Why is this about Aaron Rodgers?

Look.....we suit up 21 guys on offense. You have the holdovers that Gutekunst inherited: Rodgers, Adams, Bakhtiari, Taylor, Linsley, Jones and Williams. That’s seven core holdovers on offense and FIVE will be FA after this season. Gutekunst has added to what he inherited with Lazard, Funchess, MSV, ESB, Kumerow, etc.

At TE, Lewis, Sternberger, Daguera,.....all Gutekunst. Dillon. And Love.

Jenkins, Turner, Wagner, Light, Madison......all Gutekunst. He is improving every position, including back up QB. It’s better to take a QB before you need one instead of after, and Love brings a lot to the table. If he can take over as our starter then we could trade Rodgers and get picks.

Rodgers has two years to get back to the Super Bowl, and then it’s gonna be somebody else’s turn. I think this is good long term planning. It’s about the future.

+ REPLY
4 points
6
2
sonomaca's picture

May 04, 2020 at 07:42 am

The national media loves to focus on Rodgers. Every nationally televised game seems to feature a “Rodgers cam,” which documents his every facial expression. It’s just silly. Of course, Rodgers does his part with the celebrity girlfriends and golf with Obama and MJ.

The Love pick was smart. With Rodgers at the helm, and with a generally solid roster, the Pack won’t be drafting in the top 10 anytime soon. If there’s even a 50/50 chance Love will become a top 10 QB, you must pick him.

+ REPLY
4 points
4
0
ImaPayne's picture

May 04, 2020 at 02:10 pm

For packers fans, Love better be pretty dam good down the line or they will suffer a hell of a lot more then the virus. The Vikes are re loaded with 15 picks, a very decent QB and GM who aint going anywhere and knows how to find and pick talent and get guys who are available in a hurry if needed.
Could be an interesting next 10 years

+ REPLY
-3 points
0
3
Bure9620's picture

May 05, 2020 at 03:51 am

All 15 picks will not become starters, many will not work out. They are loaded, loaded with rookies. Rookies who may have to play as rookies. They basically had no corners going into the draft. If the Vikings go anywhere it will be because of Dalvin Cook and Cousins taking a step forward. Not their rookies.

+ REPLY
1 points
1
0
Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2020 at 04:40 pm

Coming out of a cap crisis created by their GM for no return. I’m happy they are keeping him.

+ REPLY
0 points
0
0
PackfanNY's picture

May 05, 2020 at 04:02 pm

I don’t understand the mentality that Aaron Rodgers was somehow slighted by drafting a QB. This move is about the long term success of the team. As Susanna eloquently stated Rodgers will be here for one, two or three years or more. Jordan Love will have as much time as needed to either take over the position or end up somewhere else. At the end of that time Rodgers will be almost 40 years old. That is reality. No one plays forever. No one. I would also add all the trade Rodgers now stuff is just talk from the empty headed know nothings that need something to talk about. Rodgers has $30m and more per season reasons to continue his job as the current QB1 in GB.

All that being said, Gute and LaFleur also need to be right about Jordan Love. They have staked GB’s future on this kid. When the time comes he needs to be ready to assume the job. The Packers will not be/should not be drafting a future QB anytime soon. This is their (our) guy. They just need to be right or it is they who will need another line of work. I trust they will be right.

+ REPLY
0 points
0
0

Log in to comment and more!

Not a member yet? Join free.

If you have already commented on Cheesehead TV in the past, we've created an account for you. Just verify your email, set a password and you're golden.