Jermichael Finley: Rodgers has "a trust issue" with new receivers
By PackerAaron
Jermicahel Finley made the rounds on Radio Row this past week and had some unsurprising words regarding receivers needing to gain the trust of Aaron Rodgers by doing things right in practice.
"He's got a trust issue."
"For what reason, I don't know."
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— talkSPORT (@talkSPORT) January 31, 2019
Feels like Finley and Jeff Janis should form some kind of club.
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Comments (53)
Lphill
February 04, 2019 at 02:22 pm
Finley is an idiot, he said Rodgers gets mad if you run the wrong route, well shouldn't he get mad?
Skip greenBayless
February 04, 2019 at 04:30 pm
Not everyone learns at the same pace and same level. Finley isn't an idiot, he's an American hero for speaking out against tyrants and bullies like Aaron Rodgers who publicly demean and berate coaches and players he deems not to his standards. Instead of yelling and embarrassing a player for screwing up maybe Rodgers needs to give him a smile and tell him it's ok. You know, kill the player with kindness and positive reinforcement rather than tearing them down publicly and calling them stupid. I hope Rodgers takes whatever Finley said ( I actually didn't listen to it just based it on what I read in the title) and finds a way to change himself as a human being. This lack of "trust" needs to officially end.
Dash
JDK52
February 04, 2019 at 04:51 pm
So you're just going to conveniently ignore the ways Rodgers has encouraged guys in tough spots, and just latch on to hearsay from a couple malcontents?
Aaron Jones, when he was thrust into action in Dallas in 2017, said Rodgers specifically told him he was his "biggest fan" and thought he would tear it up. This is a total rookie, low draft pick, guy most of us expected to be depth but never a starter. Rodgers saw the potential and encouraged him in a huge moment.
Quit following this stupid narrative. It's old and pointless.
Guam
February 04, 2019 at 04:56 pm
AR is neither a tyrant nor a bully. He is a leader who holds teammates accountable and he does so in private and within the confines of the team. I have never seen him rip teammates in public nor during a game nor in the media. Being demanding of professional performance is not being a bully, it is being a leader.
Lare
February 04, 2019 at 05:04 pm
I agree Guam. Packer fans know this, Vikings Trolls not so much.
Skip greenBayless
February 04, 2019 at 05:06 pm
You see Rodgers as a leader and others see him as a bully. When I see Rodgers ripping on MM in a press conference after a game or yelling/screaming at MVS for not being able to read his mind it's borderline abuse in my book. As I said, I'll be in the minority always with Rodgers. Most here are Rodgers enablers. You will fight for him no matter what he does or says. I fight for the little guy. The Jeff Janis' of the world, the J'Mon Moore's of the world. These are the guys that take the majority of Rodgers wrath. I am their voice.
Dash
CoachJV
February 04, 2019 at 05:15 pm
I'm sure they'd prefer you weren't their voice.
Lare
February 04, 2019 at 05:44 pm
I'd guess Vikings fans love some of the posters here.
Demon
February 04, 2019 at 09:17 pm
Weren't you the one calling j'mon Moore, Shame-on Moore?
johngalt
February 04, 2019 at 08:10 pm
“Idiot” was out of line, but you calling him an American hero? Come on man, I know it’s common for today’s younger crowd to go “top shelf” immediately to illustrate their point, but I think your choice of words is an exaggeration. If you’re genuine, I feel for ya, cuz speaking your mind ain’t being a “hero”.
Johnblood27
February 05, 2019 at 06:08 pm
for chrissakes Rash, go get a puppy and some crayons will ya?
Bearmeat
February 04, 2019 at 02:25 pm
They're both probably right. Finley is a jerk. And Rodgers needs to accept that he works with HUMANS. Humans make mistakes occasionally. That doesn't mean they're stupid or malicious or untrustworthy. Just that they're human.
How about working working with the guys you have, eh?
holmesmd
February 04, 2019 at 08:48 pm
Especially when #12 made plenty of mistakes this season by his own admission. “I need to throw & play better”. LoL. No **it Sherlock! Ya think?:/
Ryan3468
February 04, 2019 at 02:33 pm
The best leaders use the skills of who is available. This whole idea that everyone is uniform. That everyone works, and learns, and functions the same way is ignorant, and childish. I have no idea what Rogers thinks, but I can only hope his memory is served by utilizing talents as they are, and not as how he wishes they would be.
Skip greenBayless
February 04, 2019 at 04:35 pm
Excellent comments Ryan B Dub!!
Dash
Daren726
February 04, 2019 at 02:36 pm
You should listen to the entire interview before you comment. I don’t think he said anything that hasn’t been said before. This story takes things out of context.
Lare
February 04, 2019 at 03:01 pm
Exactly. Finley says that what is important to Rodgers is that you know the plays and run the right routes. That is called being a professional.
Personally, I'm glad that Rodgers isn't just flinging the ball up to receivers that have shown they aren't professional enough to know their jobs and do them correctly. Stupid mistakes cause turnovers and cost you games. Without stupid mistakes this past season, the Packers probably make the playoffs.
PeteK
February 04, 2019 at 03:50 pm
and play hard in practice. That's what winning teams do.
JDK52
February 04, 2019 at 02:52 pm
Yet another situation where Rodgers gets criticized for being demanding and uncompromising, yet Brady gets complimented as a competitor and a leader for doing the same. Why is that?
Easy answer is that winning fixes everything.
davfar
February 04, 2019 at 03:41 pm
Just stole my thunder. Funny thing no one had a problem with AR in 2010 or 2011. And frankly, we've been told this team needs to be more accountable, and if yelling helps, so be it.
JDK52
February 04, 2019 at 04:41 pm
Totally right. Finley didn't complain back in 2011 when he was featured (along with Rodgers, Driver, Nelson, Jennings, Jones) in the SI photoshoot after SB 45. All this garbage comes out when the team struggles and a few guys decide to capitalize and get their 15 minutes of fame.
You can't complain about Rodgers not getting all fired up on the sideline during games and then criticize him for holding his receivers accountable for poor effort. Doesn't work.
Lare
February 04, 2019 at 04:55 pm
It's always the same few people that are always criticizing and looking for anything they can to find fault.
As a wise man once said "Haters gonna hate!"
CoachJV
February 04, 2019 at 05:25 pm
If you want ARod's trust, run the right damn route... it's pretty simple.
Jordy, Cobb, Jones, Driver, Jennings... those guys knew how to run a route, so they got the ball.
Janis, Abberdares (SP), Trevor Davis, and whoever else has come along cannot run a route. And Finley was only marginal as a route runner.
But it's still simple. You want the ball? Run the right route.
Lare
February 04, 2019 at 06:13 pm
Sounds like there might have been a lack of accountability in Green Bay when it comes to running routes correctly. If others were doing their jobs it wouldn't be up to the QB to do their jobs for them.
CoachJV
February 04, 2019 at 06:30 pm
I agree completely Lare!
Rodgers said during preseason that he was unhappy with the effort and play of the receivers. He named a few who were doing okay, and said the rest were low-effort. (Or words to that effect)
I think that it all goes back to MM and staff not holding anyone accountable and losing the locker room.
Wilment
February 04, 2019 at 05:52 pm
I don't want to scare anyone, but if you have ever played organized sports, "plays" are drawn up with specific routes and assignments, whether its hockey, football, basketball or badminton. Running a route contrary to what is laid out is going to lead to issues. If in fact Rodgers is pissed off about it, so be it. This isn't sandlot football. Finley knows this , so why he is making an issue out of it …….oh, yeah. He isn't a football player anymore and has nothing better to do.
Lare
February 04, 2019 at 06:07 pm
Funny how all the Rodgers critics don't have a job in the NFL anymore.
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
February 04, 2019 at 06:31 pm
Finley's was the most immature player the Packers have ever drafted in recent memory along with Buckley, Randall, and the DB about 7 years ago (Carroll?) who was drafted along with another DB and the two got into a fight. Cant recall names tonight. Probably because none of them were worthy of remembering.
Finley's was so brash and immature but he wanted Rodgers to accept him so bad but Rodgers knew he was a punk.
Johnblood27
February 05, 2019 at 06:19 pm
Joey Thomas from Montana State
KnockTheSnotOutOfYou
February 04, 2019 at 06:31 pm
Finley's was the most immature player the Packers have ever drafted in recent memory along with Buckley, Randall, and the DB about 7 years ago (Carroll?) who was drafted along with another DB and the two got into a fight. Cant recall names tonight. Probably because none of them were worthy of remembering.
Finley's was so brash and immature but he wanted Rodgers to accept him so bad but Rodgers knew he was a punk.
4thand1
February 04, 2019 at 07:56 pm
Hmm, anyone ever see Brady blow up on the sideline? Receivers running wrong routes tend to make a QB look stupid. AR loved Jordy and now Adams is his guy. He knows they will be where they're supposed to be.
JonathanSpader
February 04, 2019 at 10:24 pm
@Aaron Nagler
Finley's comment sounds eerily similar to Ryan Grant's comment when he was watching a Packer game with you. "Rodgers doesn't trust anything he sees".
Oppy
February 05, 2019 at 09:39 pm
THere's a difference between not trusting players to do their jobs and not trusting that you're reading the defense correctly.
4zone
February 05, 2019 at 04:47 am
It isn't ARs job to trust his receivers. It's the HC or OC's job. AR needs to be indifferent to who is on the field. He needs to read the defence and work through his progressions and throw to the open guy. It's the coach's job to play his best players and yank those who can't be trusted.
AR blows too many plays when guys are wide open because 'his guy' was covered. It's what separates him from Brady. Brady takes the open guy, where AR throws to only guys he trusts.
marpag1
February 05, 2019 at 06:25 am
Uh-oh. Is it "The Year of the Take Over" .... again??
YOTTO
Samson
February 05, 2019 at 07:46 am
With the barrage of dislikes and the constant "drama king" posts, why is Dash still allowed to post here at CHTV? --- It's extremely annoying to have to sort through posts just to avoid all of Dash's "yadda-yadda crap".
The Pack are headed in a different direction. -- Maybe Dash needs to hit the road so real Packer fans can enjoy the Pack ---- version 2019.
egbertsouse
February 05, 2019 at 10:30 am
I think this site may have a “fan-friendly” setting if you only want to hear happy talk. Some people like to hear all opinions.
egbertsouse
February 05, 2019 at 10:37 am
I should clarify my last post. I meant all opinions involving sports topics. I have no problem banning people using the site to promote political agendas.
Doug Niemczynski
February 05, 2019 at 11:41 am
Rodgers had a TRUST issue with J. FINLEY. .HE DROPPED THE BALL on 3rd down!
1 game wonder against Arizona, then SUCKED!
Tundraboy
February 05, 2019 at 03:20 pm
Yeah,that AZ game. I thought my God if he continued to play that way,and having a TE on top of the receivers we had at the time,we would be unstoppable.
Doug Niemczynski
February 05, 2019 at 11:42 am
J. Finley was always dropping the ball.
Lphill
February 05, 2019 at 02:39 pm
Finley complaining about Rodgers is like a guy who was on the Yankees a few years back for 2 seasons and after he left he said in an interview New York is a tough place to play all they expect over there is to win , sounds like Finley when he said Rodgers expects you to run the correct route and make the catch.
ottscay
February 05, 2019 at 04:32 pm
Rodger's has been pretty clear that drops don't bother him ("physical errors happen to everyone), his issue is with receivers not knowing the route trees, or misreading a defense and running the wrong part o the route tree. McCarthy's offense was predicated on receivers and QB being on the same page in how they see the defense playing them - this tells the receivers what part of the route tree maximizes getting them open (and spacing everyone out to help others get open), and it tells the QB when and where the receiver should be expecting the pass (inside, outside, back shoulder, etc.). Not running the right route is how you get interceptions, since the receiver is no longer where he should be when the ball gets there.
That's what they mean by "trust" - does the QB and receiver both see the same thing and does the receiver know where and when to go once they see it? If they can't do this consistently Rodgers isn't going to throw to them.
Johnblood27
February 05, 2019 at 06:22 pm
My Hero
You get it and explained it better than anyone else.
Nice job
Qoojo
February 05, 2019 at 06:56 pm
and the hope is that with MLF's system, there is less ambiguity and less possibility for interpretation errors because the complexity will come from running different plays in the same formation and the routes themselves. That's the theory, and this year, we get to see what it looks like with a HoF caliber QB.
JDK52
February 06, 2019 at 02:19 pm
So much yes. Very well put.
Packerpasty
February 05, 2019 at 07:01 pm
Tell me a vet QB who doesn't?? come on now, can we get to the draft or something, this slow news cycle of gossip shit is boring stuff...dont have McCarthy around so it heaps on Rodgers...cheap shots..
HankScorpio
February 05, 2019 at 07:45 pm
The competition to have the hottest Hot Take on Rodgers has jumped the shark. It's one thing to see flaws in Rodgers game and talk about them. That's fair because flaws do exist. It's quite another to talk like he's some scrub that is holding the team back and has been for years.
I'm not naming names. Or really even thinking about anyone in particular. But it is boring beyond belief. Thank god for the scroll wheel on my mouse.
Point-Packer
February 05, 2019 at 09:12 pm
That's great, Nagler. But can you give me a status update on Cole Madison?
Lare
February 06, 2019 at 07:12 pm
I don't even think Cole Madison can give you an update on Cole Madison at this point.
DeathByCheese
February 06, 2019 at 08:10 am
This is why Rodgers likes Kumerow so much. Rumor has it that was a bone of contention between AR & MM, Kumerow's amount of playing time.
Oppy
February 06, 2019 at 06:55 pm
That's a great rumor... Except that Jake Kumerow was on IR all season, was announced as a player to return from IR on 11/21. Mike McCarthy was fired 12/2- Kumerow's first regular season game of 2018 coming off of IR. He had 5 snaps, and was targeted twice. He also has Adams, Cobb, ESB, and MVS ahead of him on the depth chart.
If Rodgers really made MM's use of Kumerow a "bone of contention", he's a bigger cry baby than I originally thought.
Ferrari Driver
February 06, 2019 at 08:55 pm
I had issues with Finley when he was here too; I got mighty sick of seeing him drop passes and listening to the big mouth.