Jake Kumerow? Really?

Cutting Jake Kumerow didn't sit well with Aaron Rodgers. 

One of the most surprising details to surface from the Aaron Rodgers saga is the quarterback’s displeasure with how the team parted ways with an otherwise unremarkable player. Of course, we are referring to former Green Bay Packers wide receiver Jake Kumerow.

According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, the release of Kumerow prior to the start of the 2020 season did not sit well with Rodgers.

“This seems crazy, but one of the things that drove Rodgers nuts was when the organization released Jake Kumerow just a day after (Rodgers) praised him publicly,” reported Rapoport.

Kumerow was released during the final cut down following last year’s training camp. He received constant praise from Rodgers, who appreciated his consistency and football IQ. Before winding up in Green Bay, Kumerow spent time with the Cincinnati Bengals and New England Patriots. He made his first career reception in 2018 as a 26-year-old rookie.

Kumerow stuck around through the 2019 season, catching a career-high 12 passes for 219 yards and one touchdown. He also contributed on special teams, making three career tackles.

"Jake Kumerow has been such a solid performer for us for the last couple of years. I love his reliability,” Rodgers said during an interview with SiriusXM NFL Radio in September of 2020. “I think he’s a fantastic, steady player, who’s very heady on the field. He makes plays, he plays with a lot of confidence, and he’s a guy who you love having on the squad.”

For those who thought Kumerow was out of the hearts and minds of Green Bay for good, think again. Apparently, the NFL journeyman, who is currently signed to the Buffalo Bills, would still be with the Packers if it were up to Rodgers.

It’s crazy to insinuate that Kumerow is even a notable piece of the wedge between Rodgers and the front office. Kumerow was a hard worker, but the team spent a sixth-round pick on Equanimeous St. Brown, who made the 53-man roster over Kumerow. Perhaps, Rodgers feels Kumerow was more deserving than Malik Taylor. Last season, Taylor appeared in 15 games, including one start, and finished with five receptions, 66 receiving yards, and one touchdown. Meanwhile, Kumerow caught one pass for a 22-yard touchdown in six games for the Bills in 2020.

Clearly, this isn’t so much about Kumerow as it about Rodgers’ powerlessness in regards to personnel decisions. However, general manager Brian Gutekunst stated how he valued Rodgers’ input when he spoke to the media over the weekend.

“I’ve always welcomed that input,” said Gutekunst. “I think he has such an experience in this league that input would always be something vitally important to me if he’s willing to give it.”

If Gutekunst truly values Rodgers’ input, Rodgers may feel like his is perspective falls on deaf ears. Green Bay isn’t an organization that typically listens to players when it comes to player personnel. Looking back, Rodgers probably felt like an idiot after Kumerow was cut, but at the end of the day, he probably wants to have a louder voice when it comes to building the roster.

 

 

Brandon Carwile is a Packers writer who also enjoys watching and breaking down film. Follow him on Twitter @PackerScribe.

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Lphill's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:12 pm

I’m sure he felt the same way about Cobb .

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KenEllis's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:25 pm

This is the GREEN BAY PACKER ORGANIZATION.

PLAYERS PLAY, COACHES COACH, and GMs GM (unless they are medically incompetent for several years then they don't GM and the rest of the front office covers it all up).

If Aaron Rodgers wants to be one of those new-fangled, modern day, prima donna QBs who thinks for 1 moment their input on the roster matters ... well don't let the door hit you on the arse heading out of Green Bay Aaron.

How stupid and ungrateful can ARod possibly be?

I mean look at how Brady's input on roster decisions led to ruin in New England and especially in Tampa Bay last year.

Go Pack Go.

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Packerpasty's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:50 pm

some don't get it...I do...I think...

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:03 pm

Looks like Rodgers has been stirring in group texts. Not just whining but destabilizing as well. No trade. Set an example.

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greengold's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:24 pm

Personally, I'd rather get a haul in trade.

Can you imagine the coming drafts? What could be added to the future? This could turn out to be one hell of a reset.

Making him sit, refusing to trade him, would be akin to his tactics. Spiteful? Yes. Now, I do agree it would set a precedent, but at overwhelming cost to the team. Trading his ass sets nearly the same precedent, while helping to provide for the future of the team. A real ROI.

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:53 pm

I would rather, but there comes a point where more needs to be a done than giving what was sought. One of the burdens of position is enhanced responsibility to not abuse. If true, that has not been the case here. Need to be consequences, starting to remind me of the Javion Walker episode.

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greengold's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:28 pm

Coldworld, I'm admittedly unaware of what happens to Rodgers if he fails to show up in GB and the Packers refuse to trade him.

Do they retain his rights for the entirety of the contract he signed? Would he not be able to play for another team for 3 years or... ??? Can we then trade him next year? I know the Packers have leverage in this regard. I just don't understand how it would work.

Would appreciate a heads up. Thanks.

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:17 pm

Yes, he can’t play until he is released or his contract expires, which it doesn’t if he retires or is absent. If he turns up before week 12, contract tolls as normal this year (less fines etc).

Packers can trade him at any time before trade deadline and then after season, but I’m pretty sure he’d refuse to turn up for many teams. That means chances of a good trade are reduced in number as well as what other teams will bid ( even if none are deterred by current behavior). Banking on a big payday when you are in a fire sale situation is very optimistic. Make him sit till he realizes trade on our terms or not at all.

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Matt Gonzales's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:19 pm

Gute already showed in 2018 he has no problem sending a message. I would prefer getting draft picks over a cap credit but I don't think Gute has a problem letting AR sit and stew.

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:00 pm

The point isn't trade him or don't. It's if you trade him when. If he refuses to honor his contract, that has 3 years left, then yes trade him. But not before the season is over.
Any negotiator/GM would compare the pluses and minuses of when you trade him.

What are the pluses of trading him before the season?
Draft Picks? Better to wait until after the season, that's an easy one. Giving the team you get draft choices from the tool in which the greatly diminish the value of those picks is not a sound option. AR will certainly lessen the value of the picks.
The Packers won't see the return from the draft picks until draft day, season etc. trading before or after the season doesn't help the Packers.
Lets be clear, the trade has nothing to do with getting a QB back. If AR isn't your QB then JL is and bringing in a QB that doesn't make you better has no value.
W/O AR be it Love or Bridgewater, the odds of winning the SB are bad. remember there is a reason the team trading for AR is willing to give up so much draft capital, the QB they have is not the answer, why act like he is GB's answer.

The only real question IMO is whether waiting impacts what the trade value for AR is. I'd say yes. Right now there's only 1 or two teams that could even pull it off. Wait until after the season, when teams haven't signed FAs or Drafted let alone become disenchanted with the current QB and make emotional decisions.

AR knows this, its why he's gone from a logical negotiation to a scorched earth, negotiate in the media approach trying to get the packers to make an illogical, emotional decision.

Its really a no brainer, time to grab your popcorn and just see what each side ends up doing to see this play out.

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greengold's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:22 pm

This is a great take, Dino, but, it is entirely possible DEN wants him badly enough to sweeten the pot with what they can and would be willing to offer, to make it worth GB's while to close the deal in June.

You know Elway, and he gets what he wants. DEN will pay handsomely to get their shiny new MVP QB in camp ASAP. Elway will also want time to make FA roster moves post trade. He's going to want to close on an AR trade immediately.

I have to laugh. They are a team with 4 QBs on their roster, and they are QB needy. Pretty funny stuff.

Bridgewater should be considered a backup, solely, but a good one at that. Look at the timing of that trade to DEN, night before the draft. Look at DEN's roster, jam packed with players at Green Bay's positions of need. Was DEN making some picks for us? ILB Baron Browning?

While I get waiting a year would possibly increase the value of where traded picks would land, time kills deals. This one is looking very much like it is done.

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:19 pm

I like your optimism. I do wonder if, were I Denver, the price I am thinking of wouldn’t be going down.

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blondy45's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:48 pm

The Pack still has a lot of leverage. I hope they do not jump in on a Denver trade right away. Wait and see what Rodgers actually does come summer OTA's/training camp. Also evaluate the possible Denver trade to see if it is one that can not be declined. I still like the idea of waiting until the end of the 2021 season. Then start shopping to see what hunters are willing to pay for Rodger's pelt. The more the list of interested clients equals more return for the Pack. I know if Love is our starting QB this year a super bowl victory is an extreme longshot. The FO should be patient and do what is best for the organization of our Green Bay Packers. This is not Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood, it is our frozen tundra, Titletown, Green Bay Packers.

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:46 pm

True, everything is subject to change. If the offer is 3 first rd picks and a 2nd and 3rd in 2022.
What is it worth post and pre 2021 season?

w/o Rodgers they had the #9, 41 and 73.
w Rodgers est - #22/54 and 86.

Thats a very big difference. What should they expect in return for that so its worth it?

An extra #1 at a min according to the draft value charts. Its that big of a difference in value.

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greengold's picture

May 05, 2021 at 10:43 pm

Don’t get me wrong, Dino. I agree with you and you’re spot on there. My point was Elway, and that he would pay more, IMO, to get AR in his TC immediately. The monetary windfall for the team would be huge. You know Elway. Gunslinger all the way. I totally agreed with your take to wait it out, but I failed to say so. Yeah, value of their picks likely drop significantly from where they were 6 nights ago.

Expediting should cost extra, more than 3 R1s, PLUS Bridgewater, Jeudy & Browning or a starting DL of GB’s choice, given that. Just a guess. The Packers’ leverage is indeed that they do not have to trade.

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blacke00's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:05 pm

This is not a complicated deal. Stop playing AR's game.

June 1st trade him. Get as much as you can. At least 2 1sts, 1-2 first tier player. Don't accept a low ball offer just to get rid of him!

No deals, tell Rodgers to report or retire. If he reports trade him next off season. If he pulls the 8 games in BS. Play him if you need to. If he get's hurt which a lot of holdouts do...Tough! Let him sit the bench! We all know AR ( and his ego)will not tolerate sitting on the bench.

Accept the fact that you (Murphy and Gutekunst) screwed up royally and get down to really changing the culture at 1265.

Move on! I can accept losing AR. I'm a Packer fan and will continue to be so. No one player, no matter how great. The GB packers are the bottom line not some prima donna.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:40 pm

No. It’s wrong to force people to work for you when they don’t want to, no matter the compensation.

I’d rather kick my own ass than take the field with a guy who didn’t want to be there with me. I’m sure that plenty of the guys on the team feel the same way.

June 1, trade, it’s over. What do you hope we get from Denver? I’d like to start with Surtain, because if we could add him to the guys we already have, our secondary would be dominant

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:20 pm

I wonder what the Packers HR policy is when discussing colleagues?

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Norm's picture

May 05, 2021 at 08:48 pm

Not sure but I’ll bet he gets written up for this.

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PeteK's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:22 pm

Absolutely, if I'm a lineman all muddy & bruised , I'll have no patience for a QB who is whining about not getting his way. If he gave a damn about winning a SB, he would stay here because there's a great chance this team will improve.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

May 09, 2021 at 10:18 am

PeteK,
You've been getting hot lately. I can't believe I have to give you another thumbs up. Good post!

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:40 pm

My Guy, "No. It’s wrong to force people to work for you when they don’t want to, no matter the compensation".

How many of us avg Joes go to work everyday for companies that we don't like. Be it our manager, the industry or executives?
He is not being forced to do anything. He can retire, he was paid over 100M by the team he will no longer play for, he can walk away in a position 99% of us will never even fathom.

We all have choices, he made his when he signed his contract. He still has choices. Work or Retire. When you have a position like him in the world outside of the NFL Business you most likely signed a noncompete. So his situation isn't an oppression one by any means.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:36 pm

Choosing to work at a job we don’t like sucks and people do it all the time. But forcing....that’s different

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 08:34 pm

He is in no way being forced. He has a choice. He signed the contract, the packers want him to stay, are willing to leave up to their commitment, but they can't force him to play. He can play or retire. Completely up to him. either way he is set for life.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 05, 2021 at 09:46 pm

I’m not sure what your point is. I said it’s wrong to force people, and you just said we can’t force him. (But we can use coercive force). I’m lost.

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 11:33 pm

Sure, forcing people is wrong, the point is AR is not being forced.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 06, 2021 at 06:49 am

We have a different definition of force, I think.

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psu8284's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:21 pm

And Nelson

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jimtalkbox's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:13 pm

Players of Rodgers' stature should definitely have "input" but it doesn't mean that Gutey should have that input weigh heavily on his decision making.

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HankScorpio's picture

May 06, 2021 at 06:08 am

What good can come of taking that "input"? Seriously? If you take the "input" and don't follow through on the desired course of action, you end up in this place. If you keep that can of worms closed, at least you can fall back on "players play, GM makes the roster decisions"

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carlbs's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:16 pm

As soon as the QB1 starts making personnel decisions that's a good sign to fire the GM. QB1 is paid to play, GM is paid to make personnel decisions.

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stockholder's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:42 pm

Why can't you see Rodgers just wants to be traded? Rodgers wants to win another super-bowl. He knows the Packers don't want him. The public Did. Don't believe what you hear. The packers stood to get to much backlash. The press needs to print the truth. Not opinions.

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:45 pm

The, IMO, big elephant in the room is that AR has a better chance to win with GB than with another team.

Don't get me wrong QB is the, by far, most impactful position in football. yes, if he finds a perfect situation where a team is very good but has a terrible QB he could win a SB.

Problem is there are only a few of those teams and then they need to be able to afford him. Thats 40M/yr. He's not Tom B willing to play at a discount so to better the roster. Any team that wants him will need to be willing to weaken their current roster through cap cuts to afford him.

Honestly, i'd be interested in knowing how many teams would be willing to sign AR at 38 to a 5 yr deal at 40M per year guaranteed contract.

In GB he wants 8 yrs, the remaining 3 plus 5. IDK, but I would think so if his thing is controlling his future and retiring a packer. He stated mid 40's for retirement age in previous conversations. Thats 7 to 8 years.

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 11:37 pm

The Packers want him for sure this year, maybe next year or even beyond, all depends. That's not good enough for him, he wants them to want him at HIS price and For his years.

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 11:37 pm

The Packers want him for sure this year, maybe next year or even beyond, all depends. That's not good enough for him, he wants them to want him at HIS price and For his years.

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NickPerry's picture

May 06, 2021 at 06:00 am

Okay let me ask you this... Just WHERE is it you think the Packers would actually trade Rodgers to and gives him s better chance to win a SB?

San Francisco?...It ain't happening, no way NO how. They don't have any draft picks to trade after moving up.

Las Vegas?...Maybe but he doesn't have nearly as good of chance reaching a SB in Vegas as he does in GB.

Denver?...DITTO on the Vegas reason.

Miami? Hmmm... Maaaaaybe but doubtful

Just Where then SH?

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KenEllis's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:33 pm

EXACTLY.

I don't know how the stupid Tampa GM has not been fired yet for listening to Brady about brining in Fournette, Gronk, and Antonio Brown.

Hard to believe the Bucs have not learned that GMs GM and QBs QB like it is done to such unparalleled success in GREEN BAY, WISCONSIN.

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The_Justicar's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:01 pm

Yeah, because teams were lining up to sign Brown who was out of the league(no one wanted him - not last year or this year. Look at his contracts), Fournette, who was dumped by horrible Jax and had no suitors, and Gronk, who was out of the nfl/retired. Gronk wouldn’t have played for anyone else but with Brady. No one wanted the other players. It’s not like any of those players put Tampa over the top. Two of them didn’t even start and Gronk shared time with two other tight ends.

It’s not like Brady convinced them to sign or trade for Julio Jones or Denard Hopkins.

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Nate-1980's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:12 pm

Derrrr gronk scored two tds in the super bowl Einstein derrr..

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:50 pm

history is littered with guys who have one value over all but had great SB games. Go no further than max magee. A back-up with GB then called on in the SB and had the game of his career.

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stockholder's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:16 pm

Nothing has me laughing more then the tampering suggestions. The packers want Gas on the fire. Kumerow has nothing to do with this.

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:15 pm

I’m glad you have a source of humor. We of course have your posts.

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stockholder's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:47 pm

Coldworld -the packers are crying. Not Rodgers. I'm not a robot.

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:54 pm

Rodgers isn’t, no. He might be if the Packers have more spine though.

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stockholder's picture

May 05, 2021 at 02:45 pm

More spine though? They have spine. Common- your going to buy his Jersey what ever team he goes too. Last update; is he's telling people not go to the packers because he won't be there. The Flames just keep getting higher. And so do the press assumptions. The Packers don't have to worry about tampering. The press has already done that.

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:26 pm

I doubt I’m buying any Rodgers merchandise henceforth. Don’t respect his values at this point. Great athlete, shrinking human.

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:57 pm

What? AR is having a baby tantrum to get his way because the packers had done everything right and better positioned than him. His solution, Honor his contract, stay for the fans and teammates, quietly retire with class, (Barry Sander, Megatron, Jim Brown). Nope
Cry to mommy (the Press) to convince dad (FO) to just give him what the poor little boy wants.

I hope Gute is the adult in the room.

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mnbadger's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:36 pm

Until we hear ar12 answer questions and clarify things in his own words, giving credence to the leaks is unwise at best.
If he's truly so confident in his ability to play and knowledge of all things, he should be a golfer, on an island. Mano v Mano.
As a QB of an NFL organization, he should play to the best of his ability. The NFL is not the NBA. I'm not a fan of most things NFL management does, but that's why I'm not running a team. And neither is he. He can provide personnel input to the Milwaukee Bucks. The FO has given him the ability to provide his input, not the ability to make final roster decisions.
Damn I hope he gets traded after June 1st, though I love what he's brought to the organization up to this point. GPG

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GregC's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:15 pm

Rodgers' silence speaks volumes. We shouldn't take all leaks at face value, but Rodgers would almost certainly be refuting them if they were inaccurate. The timing of the leaks is also suspicious, to say the least. On draft day. Maximum chaos and embarrassment for the Packers organization.

I am ready for him to be traded too.

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cuervo's picture

May 05, 2021 at 02:32 pm

"I am ready for him to be traded too."

To the worst possible place he could land.....I'm thinking the mess that is Houston.

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:29 pm

Sadly he will just pull the “I think I will retire if you send me to X” trick. I think he will if it’s not somewhere he wants to go.

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 08:03 pm

Thats on him...Does he want to go where they appreciate him or to a winner? He can stay in GB if its to be a winner. his choice. Now if you want to get value for him then the FO will need to make concessions as far as what teams. but you don't make concessions w/o getting something in return.

Ar - You play in 2021 and play well, we will give your Agent permission to shop you around for a trade in 2022 would be an example.

I'm not for getting nothing for him, IMO the packers hold the cards.
Something we do know - He is not retiring. straight from AJ hawk the day after spending time with him at the kentucky derby. IMO, that was a slip up.

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croatpackfan's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:02 pm

I vote for that option!

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wildbill's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:42 pm

If Rodgers is upset with how little weight his input carries now, wait until he gets married

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:17 pm

LOL, you win the thread.

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Matt Gonzales's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:21 pm

Hit the lights on your way out. We are done here.

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PeteK's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:04 pm

Hahahahaha, I needed that, Thanks!!!!

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WilsonMaywick's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:26 pm

Wish I could give you 100 thumbs up. Very well done sir

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D.D.Driver's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:25 pm

Just shut down the internet. You win.

It's over, people.

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greengold's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:49 pm

Brian Gutekunst has been a part of the Packers since he was hired as a scout in 1998. He was made Director of College Scouting in 2012. He was promoted to Director of Player Personnel in 2016.

The guy has seen some things with regards to Aaron Rodgers. He knows so much more than we could ever imagine. The fact that we're talking about Jake motherfucking Kumerow here, tells you how far off the rails this is, and how much further it can go in the coming weeks.

woosh.

All my best to you fellow fans of the Green Bay Packers, but I'm going to try to put all of this QB stuff aside till we get some real news.

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skyler's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:52 pm

Love is not ready by a long shot and the probability of him being a starting QB is low given the track record of Thompson (outside of AR) and his protege Gute in their scouting talent. Look at Brohm and Hundley as an example. That is why if they were going to pick a QB it was in the 7 round or off the street. Were not smart enough to keep Tayson Hill as a backup and future starter possibly. It took them 7 years and countless first and second round picks to find a corner in JA. They are simply not that great at picking and evaluating talent in the draft. Not an opinion but a fact. Without AR, we would be a sub 500 team for sure. Packer Nation get ready.

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:20 pm

Why is it fair to lump TT decisions as evidence Gutey is a poor talent evaluator?

You do know, with the exception of a handful of 2018 day 3 picks, the remainder of Gutey's three draft classes are still on the team. And I think his 2021 class will be keepers too.

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skyler's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:20 pm

He was TT right hand man for many years. He does dip into FA, so I will give him credit for that. Back in the early 1990, Harlan went out and got Wolf outside of the organization (much better talent evaluator than Thompson) That is what Murphy should have done went Thompson was fire. Hundley days are right around the corner.... sub 500 for sure....

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:38 pm

He was actually relatively junior.

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HankScorpio's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:18 pm

"Without AR, we would be a sub 500 team for sure. Packer Nation get ready."

Don't know that is true. By most measures, they had a pretty average QB in 2019. They went 13-3 and reached the NFC CG

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LayingTheLawe's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:28 pm

The meh Rodgers of 2019 is what started all this. No one who watched the sputtery Packer offense in 2019 thought there was a MVP run of play left in Rodgers. So the team set on a plan and now they seem pot committed to it. I think they hope to get one more year out of a disgruntled Rodgers but that will be because he doesn't want to give up the money due if he sits out.

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skyler's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:34 pm

I get the Love pick and I agree that Rodgers was trending down before last year. In the past 10 years, the only backup was Flynn. Under Thompson and now Gute the backups have been a joke. Just backup on a roster, but would be pressed to win a game or two. Again, under Wolf, many of Farve's backups went on to start for other teams. Favre never got hurt and we did not need them. We only have Love on the roster and no one else. Rodgers will never play for the Packers again. So we get a stop gap QB, we are not going above 500. This is not good management in the least. Sitton gets piss off, instead of getting trade value we release him. Management is king and always right. Good luck on that style going forward.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 05, 2021 at 10:00 pm

Very good Hank!!! :)

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justjan's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:33 pm

Wait. Who are you again?

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Nate-1980's picture

May 05, 2021 at 08:00 pm

Just Jan who are you with all your posts ? We will be a sub .500 team most likely..

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 08:08 pm

Most likely, Not to many year 1 starting QBs lead their team to SBs. there will be a step back before moving forward. that day is coming whether its in 2021 or 2025 or any date in between.

The guy we so often claim as the best, AR, didn't win in year 1 (6-10), how did that turn out.

Funny fact. They were 13-3 the year before with brett favre.

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The_Justicar's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:25 pm

This post lost all credibility by stating we should have kept taysum hill to be our starter. It could only be better if you had included Jeff Janis.

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:55 pm

Don’t dis the Janis!

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scullyitsme's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:27 pm

It’s stunning how quickly packer fans have turned on Rodgers, kumerow wasn’t very good, but he was were he was supposed to be on the field and he caught the dam ball. Our receivers all had issues with both last year. And frankly they sucked other than Adams. Rodgers perspective probably was more like “what the hell”? I want a back end of the roster receiver that I can rely on...can you at least do that? Then they cut him, probably just cause Rodgers asked to keep him. The whole thing smells of a power struggle that didn’t need to happen. Oh, and guess what, EQ sucked. Taylor sucked, I go so far as Lazard and mvs kinda sucked with their 60 combined catches and 50% reception rate, but I suppose you could barely make and argument for those two( I keep hearing it here almost daily). Tom Brady makes roster demands on a yearly basis, he gets them all... gronk, that loser head case brown,., founette. Yet everyone sings his praises. Rodgers wanted a number 5 frickin receiver and all I hear is, “oh no, Rodgers that prick wants to run the team, kick him out, trade him, make him sit on the bench, stick to football” ..Ridiculous, fricking children.

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:28 pm

And Kumerow has caught what....13 passes in the regular season games in 6 years?

I think other teams have seen what the Packers saw...a try hard guy that gets injured, is slow and rarely got open and was an average route runner.

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scullyitsme's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:34 pm

You must of missed where I said kumerow isn’t very good. My comment really had nothing to do with whether he was good or not. But see what you want to see

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Johnblood27's picture

May 05, 2021 at 02:29 pm

Maybe you didnt say Kumerow was good or not.

NFL GMs make those choices.

Not QBs.

GMs lose their jobs for not trying to improve the bottom of the roster by letting the dead wood fall to the wayside. not using those roster spots as security blankets for vain divas.

Buh Bye...

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scullyitsme's picture

May 05, 2021 at 02:37 pm

Yeah, and the difference between Malik Taylor, and kumerow couldn’t be overcome. Sigh.

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The_Justicar's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:28 pm

I’d guess that Kumerow, approaching 30, had already shown what he was...barely able to hang onto a roster. Brown and Taylor are younger and hadn’t had 6 years to show that they don’t belong yet (or belong I suppose).

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:14 pm

Lol...you said he wasn't very good then tried to defend keeping him on the 53!

I was positing why I understand why he has been cut...several times.

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scullyitsme's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:48 pm

I realize you need to keep the problem simple so you can understand it, but life’s problems aren’t always simple, sometimes they are complex

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:34 pm

If you still think Rodgers cares about you or the franchise, simple maybe closer to home than you think.

You, me, all of us fans are the ones he’s shafting in his bid to avoid a humungous contract after he took the guaranteed money because it no longer suits him. If you feel good with the middle finger as long as you are told it’s really affectionate, carry on.

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Nate-1980's picture

May 05, 2021 at 08:11 pm

Well cold if you take Rodgers at his word so much why did he say he wanted to be a packer for life ?? He’s giving the middle finger to the fo, the fans and org/ head coach is friendly fire over gross incompetence.. Gutes mistakes will hurt this team more than any other factor in this mess..

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JamesKnell's picture

May 05, 2021 at 02:35 pm

In two years that he played, Kumerow had 8 first downs in only 20 catches in 32 targets . I recall hearing Rodgers' praise and then the cut and thinking, "that is not good". Is M. Taylor that good? Was it spiteful? Or was it a "tin ear".

The first option seems to be off the table so choose from the remaining two. All of the limitations you cite about Kumerow are true, but you also have to consider who is likely to be covering the 4th or 5th WR on the field. Football IQ counts.

You couldn't watch the Packers in late 2019 and not notice the chemistry & confidence they had developed. Taking away your QBs favorite "safety value" can be viewed as "nefarious" although I don't think it was. I am learning toward the "tin ear" theory.

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greengold's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:04 pm

Did you write this before or after dime taps???

(Full disclosure: I happen to know dime taps was a pretty wonderful thing in Whitewater back in the day).

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

May 06, 2021 at 05:32 am

I'm getting pretty old and I went to Whitewater, but I don't really remember dime taps. I do remember (though I sometimes regretted) 75 cent pitchers (90 cents for Michelob) on Wednesday nights.

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greengold's picture

May 06, 2021 at 05:58 am

Yeah, it was very real. 1981. The name of the place will come to me... at some point.

MITCHELL’S !!!

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:38 pm

What I saw in 2019 was a receiver who couldn’t get open and hold down a spot despite injuries and need and who couldn’t make plays consistently and didn’t have any upside. The definition of a hit his ceiling player who wasn’t good enough. Those players you cut first, even if you ignore youth or special teams. Jump through all the hoops you want, but until Rodgers griped, no one seriously questioned his release.

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JamesKnell's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:26 pm

Thanks for daring to bring the NFL reality to the "my way or the highway crowd".

The key Kumerow stat they are choosing to over look is his 8 first downs in 20 catches. No one could watch the second half of the 2019 season without seeing their check down chemistry.

And they are talking out of both sides of their mouths. If the #5 WR is so irrelevant why not listen to the guy who has to throw the ball?

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PatB's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:43 pm

There is some revisionist history there.
Kumerow's catch rate in 2019 was 57%, and I recall a couple of his non-catches being costly.
Taylor did not get many opportunities but caught 83% of his targets in 2020.
Lazard has been very reliable with a 69% catch rate over the past two seasons. He doesn't suck. He doesn't kinda suck. He is better than Kumerow, and it is not close.
I supported keeping Kumerow in 2018 and 2019, but was fine with letting him go in 2020. If he had actually "caught the dam ball" then he would still be a Packer.
As for Rodgers, some of us have not turned on him at all. He has been much better at his job than Gutekunst at his. But I do think it's weird that Kumerow's release was (reportedly) the tipping point.

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scullyitsme's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:03 pm

Omg, this really has nothing to do with kumerow as a player, I don’t care what his stats are, don’t care how many balls he caught, the point is the packers wouldn’t have been any worse with kumerow over Malik Taylor, eq, or take you pick. So why not make your all world qb happy, that’s called management, it’s what gute gets probably a million dollars or better to do. So great, maybe you didn’t turn on him, but read the comments, most have

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JamesKnell's picture

May 06, 2021 at 01:34 am

Exactly. These high school platitudes belong in high schools. Brian Gutekunst has one job, and that is to ride the GOAT to the Super Bowl and bring back another Lombardi Trophy.

But if we did that, too many Packer fans couldn't take a few years of losing while trying to find a legit QB. It could have been a Super Bowl run worthy of 1996, but they had to go and screw it up... over a low first round pick and a #5 WR? Pathetic.

Packers - AR = 2020 Patriots = 7-9

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PatB's picture

May 06, 2021 at 09:41 am

Well, you wrote that he "caught the dam ball," and I think his actual catch rate is relevant to that. You also wrote that Lazard "kinda sucked," which is just absurd in the context of Kumerow.
I do agree with the point you make here. Managers (in any field) must be aware of morale. Gutekunst should never have gotten into a situation where cutting a fringe WR became a breaking point.

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PeteK's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:24 pm

Scully, We have not turned on him, he is the child who wants to take his ball somewhere else because he can't get his way. We can look at it the other way also. What's the big deal if he doesn't get a WR who will not play. This argument about not giving him support is bizarre . He has one of the best WR, RB, and offensive lines.

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greengold's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:33 pm

...TE... Bob Tonyan had 33 1st Downs and 11 TDs. Good call, Petey.

What does he fucking need? ONE MORE WR??? "OK. Now I'm happy..."

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PeteK's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:12 pm

I wanted a ILB drafted last year. Especially since Niners trampled us and Martinez was not resigned. However, by the end of this past season Gary, Amos, Barnes, and Martin to some extent( Gute signees) solidified the run D.

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CoachDino's picture

May 05, 2021 at 08:28 pm

Sure there are a list of issues in the scheme of things that could upset rodgers, In the Law they call, it Cause. His remedy, turn on your teammates and fans.
He is being paid so it's not a burden, oppression, breach of contract, breach of faith or unfair employee treatment that lead to him being harmed. There are no tangible damages.

Last time I looked Gute isn't the GB Packers. He is only the GM. Abandon your teammates and fans for this list of perceived wrongs, In the law they call it Cause.

Please don't take my word for it, look to one of the wisest men in history who once said about Cause.

“You see there is only one constant. One universal. It is the only real truth: Causality. Action, reaction. Cause and effect.”

― The Merovingian

Did the damages from perceived cause (actions) aline with the effect (demanded remedy - abandoned your teammates and fans)?

His only hope was to sway a jusry, so he is making this case to the jury known as public opinion and hired (yes, the press makes a ton of money of this controversy) the dream team (Corrupt national media) to make his case.

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Bearmeat's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:58 pm

Since last Thursday, I've made my feelings on Aaron Charles Rodgers patently clear. I don't need to do so again, and won't until there is actual words from Aaron himself. So probably not until training camp or when he's traded.

Done with him. Go Pack Go.

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MarkinMadison's picture

May 05, 2021 at 12:59 pm

The frustrating part about this is that this is a team that is built perfectly to protect an aging QB from an excessive number of hits. Great OL. Strong running game. Very unfortunate if it is about the roster and not about the $$$. At least if it is about the $$$ I can understand his point-of-view (understand, not necessarily agree).

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greengold's picture

May 05, 2021 at 02:40 pm

You bring up a very interesting point. This is not about winning a Championship in Green Bay, which he knows is possible.

His motivations are elsewhere. His fiancé is from Boulder, and he wants to play for DEN. He is forcing the Packers hand, somewhat, if the team wants any kind of ROI. Trade or retire?

He's spiteful by nature - IN COMPETITION. Plays with the biggest of chips on his shoulder. Always. Usually where he is at his best, as judged by his winning MVP this year. He was laser focused on that. We've known many other examples too. He's probably looking more at this as finishing the job of getting out of town with the BG stuff.

I will say this as my very last QB comment. It is entirely possible this was done more to help the team get out of his contract. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, HE HAS A LIFELONG LEGACY IN GREEN BAY.

He may, indeed have love for the Packers, knows his time is nearing an end in GB anyway, sees he can get what he wants, which is a chance to go out Elway, Manning and Brady style, in Denver, where he may expect to be making a new home & family, while making a clean break with the Packers, allowing the team to make a haul in trade. Sorry for the long sentence. He knew it was going to hurt Titletown, no matter what.

From a PR standpoint, that would be brilliant. His tearing the bandaid off had to happen to help the Packers move forward, while he pursues starting a family in Colorado, and finishing his career with the Broncos.

Add to that, making it as pronounced as a draft day bombshell, the message was direct (Schefter is as credible as it gets outside of personally making the statement), clear and loud. Hey, he did this without this giant press conference, sobbing, etc. ala Favre.

That is a very real scenario that could be in play. As I mentioned, the deal is probably done in principle. Look at the players stacked up. DEN with 10 DL on their roster, and 4 QBs? One of a few insanely good bargaining chips to toss in to sweeten the pot in WRs Jerry Jeudy, Courtland Sutton or KJ Hamler?

It's not like GB is sitting there saying "What do we do now???" We have a legit franchise QB who is young, yes, but with one year in LaFleur's QB room, while learning from the master in Rodgers. Throw Jordan Love in the deep end of the pool and he'll be fine. He wants this.

Appears this is all out of the Packers hands, really. All they can do is make the most of it, or not. As time goes on, I am guessing that is how this it will play out. Bob McGinn reported a friend close to Rodgers said there was a 2% chance he returns to the Packers...

See you on the other side of this my friends.

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:58 pm

Bye Greengold. Will miss your perspectives. Good post to sign out with.

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LayingTheLawe's picture

May 06, 2021 at 01:42 pm

I agree that although the spin will be all this stuff about "they didn't give him any talent around him" while he has the best receiver in football, two all pro offensive lineman, a top rb and a tight end with double digit touchdowns. The truth is more likely that he is pissed about getting a long term contract and them coming to the realization that he's most likely not going to see any of the later years of that deal.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:11 pm

This is why you don’t solicit opinions on personnel from your star player. If you don’t act on it, it makes their butt hurt. Favre was butt hurt when we didn’t trade for Randy “The Cancer” Moss, now Rodgers is butt hurt because of Kumerow?

Nobody likes to find out they aren’t as important as they thought they were.

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:56 pm

Or as wise

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FuDog42's picture

May 06, 2021 at 05:40 am

I wish that I could give you 100 thumbs up for that comment. He really thinks that he is a sage. He is, in fact, a youngster who has never had to deal with true adversity in his whole life, and is surrounded by sycophants. I cringe every time I see the smug wash over his face in interviews. On Pat's show, he is on endlessly about how he is an older player, implying that he is wise and centered. His actions do not bear that out.

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Nate-1980's picture

May 05, 2021 at 08:04 pm

That cancer set the td record that year hahaha, good point there lh ha..

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Leatherhead's picture

May 06, 2021 at 07:01 am

Randy Moss is a cancer. He was traded from team to team because despite his great skills, he is a cancer. How many Super Bowl rings does he have? Zero. Because he’s a cancer, and teams with cancer don’t win the title.

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:13 pm

"Rodgers probably felt like an idiot after Kumerow was cut."

He should, because it was idiotic. Jake from Whitewater was a nice story, but "dependable"? He spent 4 months on IR for the Packers and his few years in Ciny was mostly on IR or the PS. He is the journeyman of all journeymen....having traveled all around the league since he got cut from Rodgers inner circle.

But I don't believe for a minute Jake from Whitewater broke the camels's back. Welcome to the NFL silly season.

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murf7777's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:51 pm

“But I don't believe for a minute Jake from Whitewater broke the camels's back. Welcome to the NFL silly season.“

Totally agree, but when you add in AR wanting to keep Cobb and especially Jordy the issues all pile on. As in most pending divorce theres normally fault on both parties. Until we here what Arod says and wants I hold back opinions.

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:32 pm

Cobb was hugely underperforming his second contract, primarily due to several injuries. I don’t recall many voices to retain him. If Rodgers was upset at that, probably another primarily non-football cause. Cobb has hardly set the world on fire in Dallas and then Houston. Right calm by the Packers ( and fans, at that time).

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Philarod's picture

May 06, 2021 at 02:06 am

True, but name one skill position player who played as well - let alone better - after leaving GB (and Rodgers). In almost every case, AR made them look better than they were - and despite MM's coaching.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 05, 2021 at 10:11 pm

Lambeau,
It has always been obvious if Rodgers has a friendship he is going to pass to you, and praise you. Rodger's has made WR's and he has likely damaged WR's careers. If you are a WR you had better kiss his ass, otherwise you wont see a pass.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:23 pm

If this is true we don't need any more justification for why Rodgers is not consulted on personnel moves.

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 05, 2021 at 01:30 pm

LOL!

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Demon's picture

May 05, 2021 at 02:19 pm

If all it takes to make AR happy is to have Kumerow on the roster thats an easy fix. Offer the Bills Taylor, EQ, Shepperd any one or all of them. Problem solved AR happy for the cost of a bottom of the roster WR.

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stockholder's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:24 pm

Thats not what Rodgers wants. Murphy told Rodgers not to be part of the problem with LeFlore. Rodgers gave Kumerow a endorsement hoping he would return to being that camp sensation. He was quickly cut. That was the warning. I'm sure that was Gutes call. The coach was to new to make that call.

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coolhand's picture

May 06, 2021 at 04:23 pm

Also, Kumerow was almost 30 yrs old and a FA. Why would the team sign a guy like that when they could easily draft a young player who is faster and just as good or better and pay them less.

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JamesLofton's picture

May 05, 2021 at 02:22 pm

Elton Jenkins has requested a trade after Gutey drafts multiple O/L options ....... Davante Adams upset at organisation after GB draft wide receiver..... Jaime Alexander considering his options and contemplating retirement after Packers chose CB in first round.... see where this is going ..... bye bye Rodgers your no.12 will be in Lambeau but you’re leaving a sour taste too. GPG

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BAMABADGER's picture

May 05, 2021 at 02:26 pm

Kumerow has 22 total catches in his carrier. Only 1 since he left GB. If Rodgers was upset about Kumerow getting cut???? then he definitely has more than a man crush for Jake K.

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JamesKnell's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:08 pm

Eight first downs in 20 catches is clutch for a #5 WR.

More than once, I have wished that Josh Jackson had some ball awareness to go with his impressive combine numbers.

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PeteK's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:48 pm

I'll give Kumerow some credit because he was turning into a decent special team coverage player. However, ESB is better than Kumerow (28 -445 15.9- 19 FDs and starting making some TKls on sp teams, age 29 compared to 24 ) also caught two passes in the post season. As much as I liked Kumerow , Gute made the better decision.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 05, 2021 at 10:15 pm

Maybe long hair has an affect on Rodgers? I see Hawk was with him at the Derby. Wasn't Clay close to Rodger's too? Hmmm...

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packmann's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:39 pm

How in the world do you cut a player nicknamed Touchdown Jesus? What were they thinking?!?

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:45 pm

Kumerow was an example of Rodgers lobbying for non football reasons. It’s not logical it’s emotional, the only interesting aspect us it’s one where it’s futile to argue there was a strong football reason and thus that Rodgers’ support was based on valid ground.

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TomFisher's picture

May 05, 2021 at 02:54 pm

Here's my question: if he loved Kumerow so much, why was he only targeted 32 times in 19 games with Green Bay? If he was such a big fan, I sure would have thought he'd have thrown him the ball more. It also can't be because he couldn't get on the field, because Rodgers made sure that everyone knew he lobbied to get Lazard on the field and quickly connected with him on a big score.

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JamesKnell's picture

May 05, 2021 at 11:23 pm

A lot of fans like Jeff Janis too, but I don't know any one of them that thought he would be great as a #2 WR. I have noted in other post that of those 20 catches, 8 were for 1st downs.

Toward the end of 2019, it did seem evident there was some on field chemistry there. I figured Taylor must be pretty good... maybe better on special teams... nope. Not really.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:20 pm

Since all this was unleashed on draft day - I have not felt the need to watch a single episode of The Days Of Our Lives or The Young and The Restless. This mini-drama with Rodgers (et al) is so much better. I particularly enjoyed today's episode - "Kumerow Crush." I can't wait to find out who Aaron's real father is!

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Swisch's picture

May 05, 2021 at 08:27 pm

The father of Aaron Rodgers is none other than Brian Gutekunst.
Rodgers was adopted by his current family, and the recent revelation of this heretofore hidden past helps explain their estrangement.
Meanwhile, Gutekunst has passionately devoted his life to secretly being in close proximity to his son without ever divulging his paternal bond.
Even now, Aaron doesn't know Gutekunst is his father.
Due to a bizarre series of incidents surrounding the birth of Aaron some 37 years ago, Gutekunst has decided it is best that Aaron never know of his true origins.
Now, in these turbulent days of negotiations with Rodgers, Gutekunst is torn: Should the GM finally show himself as the father of the superstar QB; or for exceedingly intricate and intimate reasons, should he carry that secret to his grave.
Never miss an episode of, "As the World Spirals."
P.S. For the purpose of this drama, Gutekunst is actually ten years older than he claims to be.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

May 05, 2021 at 08:25 pm

Yes, of course, it makes perfect sense now - Aaron Rodgers is Brian Gutekunst's love child! For years I thought that Ted Thompson might have been Aaron's biological father - what, with his puzzling selection of Rodgers in the 2005 draft and the subsequent jettisoning of Brett Favre. However, their relationship seemed to be more avuncular than paternal. One can clearly see now, as Gutekunst speaks about Aaron, a man torn between his duty and the love of his son. I would not wish this dilemma on any person.

Still there remains some confusion as to Gutekunst's age - although there are records of 11 yr. old fathers.

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LayingTheLawe's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:44 pm

players keep appearing to think teams owe them something for years service and teams keep showing that this is not true. Ask Jamaal Williams if being a great teammate and a decent contributor gets you any loyalty from the team come contract time.

I never mind players getting every penny they can from a team because the team is always dumping you the moment you no longer fit into their plans.

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PeteK's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:00 pm

As much as I liked him, Williams on his best day cannot achieve what Dillon did against the Titans. Along with Jones it could turn this offense into an unstoppable force. It could bring back memories of Taylor/Hornung or Brockington/ lane. A running game like that is a QBs dream. AR is a fool.

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JamesKnell's picture

May 06, 2021 at 12:07 am

Jamaal Williams said it was great to have been a Packer for those years. He's got a fresh veteran contact with the the Lions. I'll be cheering for him when they are not playing the Packers. He's the kind of guy you bring back if the chance presents itself.

Aaron Jones just signed for less than he probably could have got elsewhere. Other guys took big cuts because they had below average years. I do understand your point, but like Jamaal Williams is "nice guy who finished last."

Like TJ Lang said on in the draft party, "going to practice with the Lions is work". But Jamal's got a new NFL veteran contract and is going make good doe. Average people who get canned, often don't get a job with another company that will set them for life, ya know?

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RandyMajkowskiDilweg's picture

May 05, 2021 at 03:52 pm

Sad that all these pathetic losers have turned their back on Rodgers. You deserve every bit of the upcoming 6-10 season.

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 05, 2021 at 04:26 pm

I want Rodgers to be under center this season.

The backed that has turned has #12 on it.

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Fabio's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:04 pm

Rodgers did this .... Rodgers did that ..... Rodgers is ugly ...... Rodgers has a shit character ..... Rodgers is touchy ..... Rodgers just has to think about play ...... Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers. Am I wrong or is a GM paid for these situations not to happen? Moreover, now if it goes well we will trade it for choices that will surely be low in the draft, while if we traded it at the beginning of the year we could have had high choices this year .... ah but this was also a choice of the GM !!!!!

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Coldworld's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:47 pm

We dont want to trade him. He wants a trade, to teams he wants to go to, or he will walk away from his contract.

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blondy45's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:14 pm

The GM's job is to acquire talent that he can afford and to make the team stronger now and in the future. He should not be the psychologist in charge of the whinners and bellyachers. This is "professional" football, not a pop warner flag football league. IMO Rodgers actions are not very "professional". He is cunning and devilishly calculating. Wait him out, Gute. Keep making choices for the the majority, not the want to be devas, or the fans with not enough foresight to see the bigger picture. As Leatherhead so perfectly stated earlier. "Stay in your own lane, accidents happen when you do not".

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Fabio's picture

May 06, 2021 at 02:45 am

Hello Biondino 45!! I think you don't get the point! I don't care if a player is good or bad or if he has a good or bad character ..... but Gute must know !! must know !!! and he must know what this player might be able to do ... (create trouble).
If Gute is not able to handle the situation it means that he is not a good GM !!! And the current state shows that Gute was unable to handle the situation otherwise he had already solved it in January !!! not now !!! We keep looking at the finger (how bad Rodgers is) and don't see what's behind it (managerial mismanagement)
A good GM is also trained in conflict management (there are good training courses in this too) and in any case it proves that his exit plan from Rodgers had not considered Rodgers himself and this is a mistake a GM cannot afford. otherwise I might go too far (either you or any of us fans) to be a GM.
But since you need specific skills to do this job, Gute must have them and in this case he has proven he doesn't. And for the organization this is too great a damage that we cannot afford !!! I hope people stop looking at Rodgers' behavior (I don't like it too and I'm disappointed) because this is the cloud of smoke they put before our eyes to hide the flaws of the organization.

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PAPackerbacker's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:15 pm

I truly like the idea of Rodgers as the QB of the Packers until he decides to retire. But does anyone really want him to be there if his heart and soul is not with the team? Green Bay had one of the best, if not the best, offenses in the NFL last year. Does that not indicate the team did well? Management has told Rodgers he is their man in 2021 and beyond. I don't see anything wrong with drafting players for the future to keep the team competitive. Isn't that why Green Bay jumped at the chance when Rodgers fell in the draft that brought him to Green Bay? Or why they chose any other player in the draft that has proven their worth on the field? Some work out and some don't. Football is a team sport and you win by team effort and team commitment, not by look what I have done, but rather by what we have done, or not by what I have sacrificed, but by what we, as a team, have sacrificed to get to the point of being a championship caliber team. Appreciate what you have, and each other, and do your individual best to contribute to the success of the team. Isn't that the true measure of a champion? I am, and always will be a Packer fan above and beyond any one individual on the team, whether it be a manager, a coach, or a player. Go ! Pack! Go!

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nygary's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:14 pm

Well said Papackerbacker

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blondy45's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:18 pm

PaPackerbacker. Super post of the Month! ps. I am a western Pennsylvania lifetime Packer backer.

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PAPackerbacker's picture

May 05, 2021 at 10:37 pm

Thanks blondy45. I'm from southwestern PA myself and a lifetime Packer backer as well.

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n8ball1's picture

May 05, 2021 at 06:25 pm

I'm sure there's more to the story. Gutey really bungled this and channeled his inner Ted Thompson. Give him what he wants. We have the best QB in the league who makes WRs into stars. Go ask our fellow division rivals how hard it is to find a QB of this caliber. People that have turned their backs forget that ARod has carried this team for years and covered up the mistakes for the front office.

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Lphill's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:04 pm

This team needs an owner .

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stockholder's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:13 pm

LP they do. And you were right about giving Rodgers a chance to win with someone else. A+

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stockholder's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:09 pm

1. Arron- Don't you be part of the problem. - Murphy 2. Gute trades up for Love. Ready for a fight. 3. lefluer- we don't care if we win. This is how you treat your best Player? With mind games and threats? Who wouldn't want to be traded.

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Nate-1980's picture

May 05, 2021 at 07:47 pm

I love all the super knowledgeable people on here just think that this franchise is going to be fine without Aaron Rodgers, what a joke of an opinion with nothing to support it.. “ You just get a bunch of draft picks and start a qb that has never thrown a nfl pass= ten wins and the playoffs.. “ It’s like the underpants gnomes from south park( if you old fellas watched the show)..
Step 1: collect underpants
Step 2: ?????????????
Step 3: ?????????????
Step 4: Profit
It’s almost like sheeple status around here, it’s gross..All of you blame Rodgers for this situation, yet don’t look at what has been going on around him for years, incompetence.. I don’t want to hear well they won this many games, went to the playoffs this many times, won the division this many times.. Answer this, who is the most important piece to ALL of that happening ??? Hmmmmmm, I know the truthful answer hurts doesn’t it..We kept a coach 5 years too long, a dc for at least 3 or more, and a gm with brain injuries for years who our” savior” mark Murphy probably knew about.. For Christ sakes the man just recently died from his illness, god rest his soul..I’d be pissed off too if I was Rodgers, he’s had crap at receivers for YEARS , except for Adam’s.. “But we were the number one offense he has plenty”, yeah we had that because he had an mvp season and is the best player on this team and it isn’t even close.. Yet let’s just get rid of him, you guys are nuts.. Maybe if our Dullard gm didn’t rush out and over draft some guy, and not realize that in a new offense Rodgers could play better we wouldn’t be here, now would we..But he was in decline, well good ole glutioumaximas was wrong there as well..He has at least 2-3 years of great play, but our front office is playing a dangerous game that has finally blown up in their faces..61 is right you have to tend to the needs of your top performers, without him this team is crap and maybe wins 5 games..I’m not saying give him gm privileges, but if the man asked for more weapons, you give him that.. God this site reminds me of packersdotcom in regards to the infallible fo, again gross.. I know I should just not read the blog or be here right, because I don’t share the same exact crap takes some of you do.. When Rodgers leaves and this turns out to be a disaster, I want all of you saying this was a good idea to get that crow pie ready.. I’ll do the same if it actually works out, but it’s such low odds I’ll make the bet... But for now baaahhhhhhhh

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flackcatcher's picture

May 05, 2021 at 08:55 pm

Well I suggest you read (or reread) '61 comments. He has made the best case for placating Rodgers over the past 48 hours. The ugly truth is the Rodgers-Packers relationship was going to end ugly no matter what the Packers did. Once the 2018 contract extension with Rodgers was done the Packers were 'tapped out' with little room under the Cap. That was the price for making Rodgers the top paid man in all of pro football. Covid-19 was the topper which forced the teams hand early. Both Ball and Gute deserve enormous credit for putting together an elite NFL team under tight Cap restrictions. Rodgers is already living the best case as a pro football player. The Packers can do nothing more for him, and he clearly knows that. Nobody gets their perfect ending. Whatever Rodgers ending is football wise. He'll just have to live with it.

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Wrongbayfeldlman's picture

May 05, 2021 at 09:42 pm

I don’t see too many posters here that think GB will be just fine without Rodgers, at least not from a win/loss perspective.
Rodgers is a grudge holder, he had a disagreement with his family and didn’t speak to them for years.
He’s a sad spoilded brat of a human being. Didn’t get his way and now he has to get even. He doesn’t care about GB, the fans or the organization. If he did he would have handled this very differently.
I hope he gets traded.
I know He will take wins and possibly the playoffs with him but I don’t care. He doesn’t want to be apart of GB nation anymore, fine go, don’t want you either.

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PeteK's picture

May 06, 2021 at 08:34 am

Crap receivers, you better check the stats, and give some respect to the many WRs and linemen that helped make AR who he is. Once again, we don't want him to leave, but are disappointed and angry that he wants to leave us right when we have a good chance for a SB. Also, he has been compensated very fairly by the team.

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BJP's picture

May 05, 2021 at 11:15 pm

Not sure who I believe less, Rappaport or Gutekunst.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

May 06, 2021 at 05:40 am

I see no reason AR can’t be our starting QB, host Jeopardy, and be GM. Maybe he could fill our need at ILB too!

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coolhand's picture

May 06, 2021 at 03:35 pm

Rodgers really liked Kumerow? Then why didn't he ever throw him the ball?

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