Is It Time to Invest in an Inside Linebacker?

Making the case for an inside linebacker on night one of the 2020 NFL Draft.

Brian Gutekunst is nine days away from his third draft as Green Bay’s General Manager, and while we’re starting to pick up on some of his tendencies (like drafting players with high relative athletic scores), we can’t claim to have fully figured out how he operates. That makes his first overall pick at No. 30 wide open. Could he target a wide receiver to give Aaron Rodgers another weapon? Is Rick Wagner only a stop-gap right tackle so Gutekunst will invest heavily along his offensive line this draft? Or, maybe it’s time to make an investment at the inside linebacker position, which is what we’re going to talk about right now. 

Blake Martinez was a mainstay and captain on defense during his time with Green Bay (now he’s a passed physical away from becoming a New York Giant). During his 2019 season, he started all 16 regular season games, had one interception, two passes defensed, one forced fumble, three sacks, 155 total tackles, five tackles for loss, and three quarterback hits. Martinez was a fourth round selection in the 2016 NFL Draft and has a 6.41 RAS. 

Let’s see how that compares to newly acquired linebacker Christian Kirksey. In 2017 (Kirksey’s last full season), he started all 16 regular season games, had five passes defensed, two forced fumble, one fumble recovery, 3.5 sacks, 138 total tackles, six tackles for loss, and six quarterback hits. Kirksey was a third round selection in the 2014 NFL Draft and has a 7.41 RAS. 

These are two starters at their position, both as day two or day three selections in the draft. Both are 6-2, roughly 235 pounds, and have proven they can play at a high level in the NFL. 

Now let’s look at the other three inside linebackers currently on the roster for the Packers. First up is Oren Burks, a 6-3, 230lb player out of Vanderbilt. For the purpose of this exercise, these numbers are from his 2017 season. He started 11 games, had 80 total tackles, seven tackles for loss, one sack, one interception, three passes defensed, and one fumble recovery. Burks was selected by the Packers in the third round of the 2018 NFL Draft (Gutekunst’s first draft) and has a 9.73 RAS. 

In the 2019 Draft, Gutekunst made another linebacker pick in the seventh round, selecting Ty Summers out of TCU. During one of his best seasons (2016), he started 12 games, posted 121 total tackles with five tackles for loss, had 1.5 sacks, and defended three passes. The 6-2, 230lb Summers has a 9.7 RAS. 

This is where that high athletic score tendency comes in for Gutekunst. If you’re looking for developmental prospects, get the freakiest athlete you can find and go from there. Burks and Summers both posting scores over 9.7 fit the bill here. 

Finally we’ll look at Curtis Bolton out of Oklahoma (whose former teammate is Kenneth Murray, but we’ll get there). During his 2018 season at Oklahoma, Bolton started 14 games, had 142 total tackles with 12 tackles for loss, posted 4.5 sacks, had two passes defensed, two fumble recoveries, and returned one fumble for a touchdown. At 6-1, 220lbs, Bolton is a little on the smaller side to play the position, but he had a promising 2019 training camp and preseason before suffering an ACL tear. He has a 7.04 RAS. 

So with this core of Kirksey, Burks, Summers, and Bolton, is it possible the Packers can get increased production out of the inside linebacker position? Sure it is. But we’re also talking about a position group made up of two former third round picks, a seventh round pick, and an undrafted free agent. 

In the 2019 Draft, the two inside linebackers coveted by Packers fans were Devin White and Devin Bush. White went to Tampa Bay at the fifth overall pick, and the Steelers traded up to No. 10 to select Bush. What did that tell us? If you want a sure-thing at inside linebacker, it’s going to be an investment. 

At the time, the Packers had Martinez as the full-time starter and were hoping for a second-year jump from Burks, so missing on White and Bush didn’t feel as significant in the moment. 

Now, as we approach the 2020 Draft, there are two names once again at inside linebacker that many (including myself) are smitten with, Patrick Queen out of LSU and Kenneth Murray out of Oklahoma. 

In his 2019, championship season with LSU, the 6-1, 227lb Patrick Queen started 15 games, posted 85 total tackles with 12 tackles for loss, had three sacks, one interception, two passes defensed, and one fumble recovery. He also has a 8.0 RAS. 

For Oklahoma in 2019, Kenneth Murray started 14 games, had 102 total tackles with 17 for loss, had four sacks, and four passes defensed. At 6-2, 234lbs, Murray is built more like a traditional inside linebacker, and he posted an elite RAS of 9.89. 

Don’t let the numbers on paper fool you, as that was part of the exercise here. College stats can be deceptive. The tape needs to tell the story, and the tape says Murray and Queen are going to be studs in the NFL. What did the tape say for someone like Oren Burks? Well, that he had explosive athleticism and potential, but he was still a raw prospect that needed time to develop at the position. Now entering his third year with the Packers, his developmental window is closing quickly. 

I want to go on record here and say I’m as big a Christian Kirksey fan as they come. My husband is a Browns fan, people. I’ve done my research. The signing made sense, the investment made sense. The price tag even made sense. If he can stay healthy, he will be a productive presence on the field and a phenomenal locker room leader. But is he a massive upgrade over the last four seasons? Not entirely. Kirksey, Burks, and Bolton all have injury concerns at this point, and Summers didn’t take a defensive snap the entire 2019 season. 

While the upside is there for all four players, it might also be time for Gutekunst to spend big at the inside linebacker position. This defense is close, and adding a player like Queen or Murray to shore up the front seven would go a long way both addressing the issues with coverage in the middle of the field, and stopping the run. There are only so many high value picks in the draft, and while you can find starters in any round, rather than gamble on another day two or day three developmental prospect, it makes sense to make a long-term investment in the middle of the defense. 

Like I mentioned before, we’re still trying to figure out Gutekunst’s tendencies entering his third draft as GM, but we know he attacks areas of weakness on his roster, just like he did at the edge rushing position in 2019. Might he do the same at inside linebacker in 2020?

 

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Maggie Loney is a writer for Cheesehead TV, podcaster for the Pack-A-Day Podcast and Pack's What She Said, and hosts a weekly live show called Happy Hour through Game On Wisconsin. Find her on Twitter at @MaggieJLoney.

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splitpea1's picture

April 14, 2020 at 12:22 pm

Ah, a kindred spirit...smitten by the same players. If the opportunity is there to take either one of these guys, then the Packers should do it. We haven't had a real impact player at this position for a long time. If they're both out of reach or gone by the time the Packers make their first pick, they should probably take the best WR available or trade down.

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Since'61's picture

April 14, 2020 at 12:26 pm

Yes, since Ray Nitschke actually. Thanks, Since ‘61.

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PeteK's picture

April 14, 2020 at 01:16 pm

I would take a Brien Noble or Jim Carter right now.

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Since'61's picture

April 14, 2020 at 04:12 pm

So would I. Stay well. Thanks, Since ‘61

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April 14, 2020 at 04:23 pm

Noble was a beast!!!!!!!!!!

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Since'61's picture

April 14, 2020 at 12:25 pm

Yes, it is time to invest in an ILB but first let’s have a few more articles about this because the 25 or so that we have had already aren’t enough to cover this topic. The flip side is that we have played without a legitimate NFL ILB/MLB since Ray Nitschke so maybe just maybe we can go another 50 seasons without one.
Next. Stay safe everyone. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Leatherhead's picture

April 14, 2020 at 02:14 pm

If we would like to avoid being shredded by SF again ....or anybody else.....then I think we have to look at the three players who are not in the secondary or one of our four pressure guys.

Last year, that was Martinez, Tramon as the nickel, and one other person, usually a UDFA safety or something.

We’ve partially replaced Martinez. We could draft a CB to replace Tramon and still have an early pick at somebody who could play that hybrid role better than Burks or Greene.

Given our history, I don’t think we’ll take a ILB with our first pick.

Btw, I like Logan Wilson with our second pick. AJ Terrell , Logan Wilson, Zach Moss and Raekwon Davis. I’d try to move around and get all those guys on the second day.

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PeteK's picture

April 14, 2020 at 02:33 pm

I think/hope Greene can fill the hybrid role very adequately.

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April 14, 2020 at 02:54 pm

Get rid of the hybrid. There are other run and chase LBs like Brooks, Joe Bachie, maybe Willie Gay if he dials it in upstairs.

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April 14, 2020 at 08:05 pm

Logan Wilson will be 24 at the start of the season.
Zero chance of him being a Packer.

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April 14, 2020 at 02:37 pm

Cookie for you, '61! Be safe!

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Since'61's picture

April 14, 2020 at 04:14 pm

Dobber and you be safe as well. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Demon's picture

April 14, 2020 at 06:05 pm

Is it possible that Johnny Holland or Brian Williams were the best ILB's the Pack has had since Nitschke retired?

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April 14, 2020 at 04:16 pm

Johnny Holland was good! I enjoyed watching him play. Stay safe. Thanks, Since ‘61

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 14, 2020 at 05:47 pm

Mike Douglas. Was he an inside or outside backer. Can't remember. Helluva player though.

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PeteK's picture

April 14, 2020 at 05:10 pm

Throw Nick Barnett (3rd rounder) into the mix. Brien Noble 5th rounder , there is plenty of hope!

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April 15, 2020 at 11:11 am

Barnett was taken in the 1st

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 15, 2020 at 12:35 pm

Nick was a first round choice. One of the few hits by sherman.

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April 15, 2020 at 12:38 pm

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April 14, 2020 at 12:40 pm

Even if the spots on a leopard were erasable, are the Packers even willing to do so.

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Tarynfor12's picture

April 14, 2020 at 02:00 pm

I guess the two dislikes don't get it or just dislike any comment from me or perhaps they believe GB should move up to get an ILB at the expense of loss of picks to mend the ails of the team and the ability to trade back to help ensure the help may arrive outside the # 30 selection with more picks.

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 14, 2020 at 02:23 pm

Yup....pretty sure they just don't like you. You should be smart enough to figure that out all by yourself.

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April 14, 2020 at 02:34 pm

I expected no less from the likes of you.

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April 14, 2020 at 02:45 pm

Just wanted to clear that up for you. You seemed confused.

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April 14, 2020 at 03:14 pm

Taryn, why are you even bothering to ans someone like that.

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 14, 2020 at 03:06 pm

Well, in a previous article, I voiced an opinion, directed at the author, not him. He apparently didn't agree with my opinion, which again...wasn't directed at him...and proceeded to call me a derogatory name for no reason. When I responded and explained it wasn't directed at him, he didn't have the common courtesy to retract or apologize.
So if he wants to be a jerk, I'm more than happy to oblige.

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Since'61's picture

April 14, 2020 at 04:18 pm

What you don’t know about women is a lot. Stay safe anyway. Thanks, Since ‘61

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 14, 2020 at 04:21 pm

What woman are you referring to?

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April 14, 2020 at 03:50 pm

You must be a boomer; your opinion is null and void

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April 14, 2020 at 04:19 pm

If you're referring to me, yes I'm a boomer. A boomer who defended my country. And as a veteran who honorably served, I don't take kindly to someone calling me a coward, simply because I wouldn't predict how many games the Packers would win this year. If that's acceptable to your generation, whatever it is, then so be it.

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April 14, 2020 at 04:33 pm

AmericanJackass....
And thank you for that profound contribution to the conversation.
Now go wash your hands. I think I just heard your mother calling you in for dinner.

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April 15, 2020 at 02:35 pm

I’m a combat veteran myself princess. How about you? I fought in the AnBar providence, Ramadi as well as the triangle of death. You ever pull triggers? It was enjoyable watching you cowardly boomers send squads out as you hid on the COP. Commanding others to fight when you yourselves wouldn’t do the same and go outside the wire. How did you fools come from the greatest generation? This covid-19 is because of your generation. Boomers sold out future generations to China to make a quick buck. Your generation will be known as self serving and worthless. Anytime you’d like to see what a Valor medal is hit me up sweetness.

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April 15, 2020 at 03:28 pm

You might want to look into some anger mgt. classes. Who invited you into this conversation anyway? I'm glad you think you know my military history. You're not worth the effort to explain it to you. What happened to mutual respect between fellow veterans? Your war was worse than my war? Really? Geezus.
It's really intelligent to lump an entire generation together and blame them for all your problems. You sound like you're 14.
No need to respond back. This conversation is over. I don't engage with idiots.

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April 15, 2020 at 03:11 pm

Enjoy your reverse mortgage asshole!

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April 15, 2020 at 03:36 pm

I wouldn’t expect anything less boomer. Not being accountable is your MO. So stay strong chair force. You know your weakass was in the rear with the gear dear!

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MITM's picture

April 14, 2020 at 01:38 pm

no thanks

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PatrickGB's picture

April 14, 2020 at 02:04 pm

I really hope that it’s a smoke screen.

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dobber's picture

April 14, 2020 at 02:19 pm

I think it is, but I couldn't resist the Nazareth reference...

Have had the song in my head all afternoon since.

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Samson's picture

April 14, 2020 at 02:37 pm

Nice... I missed that 1st time around.
That song was during better days ... my party down college days.

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PeteK's picture

April 14, 2020 at 02:50 pm

I would prefer "Lift the Lid" in reference to Pack making it happen this season.

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packerbackerjim's picture

April 14, 2020 at 02:52 pm

Everly Brothers has the earlier arguably better version, but to each their own. I’ll always appreciate musical references in any case.

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stockholder's picture

April 14, 2020 at 01:10 pm

Good Luck Trying to get either Murray or Queen. It's all hype now. Both have moved up to the mid -round in the first. A first and a third won't get pass pick 25. And while I think Gutey would do it . Somebody will beat him to them. RAS doesn't mean much to pettine. Summers and Burks still will sit. As Long as he has no faith in draft picks. Move to Offense. Take a good Wrs. Keep the picks.

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April 14, 2020 at 01:19 pm

Agree - keep your picks... The improvement in the run defense may have to come from better DL play & the emergence of Kirksey at the ILB. ---- It's time to beef up the "O" & give AR better weapons. -- Score 30+ a game & you'll win most of them... Ask the Chiefs.

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stockholder's picture

April 14, 2020 at 01:32 pm

I was really hoping for more speed at LB. Queen is just rising too fast. I agree improvement must come from better play.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 14, 2020 at 01:33 pm

They can get ILBs that hit gaps in the third and fourth rounds. The first two rounds need to be OT and WR, in some order.

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Cheesey51's picture

April 14, 2020 at 04:07 pm

Agree with you on Gutey going up. Whether Murray or Queen are there depends on who jumps the highest for QB's and OT. Maybe this is the year we get an ILB. Still more needs on Defense than O

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 15, 2020 at 12:40 pm

If he moves up for anyone, it should be Jefferson @ WR.

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Samson's picture

April 14, 2020 at 01:13 pm

Going after Murray or Queen (a move up in the 1st) would be a gutsy move by Gute... Gute is definitely more aggressive than his predecessor but it all depends on his view of the present ILBs on the roster. -- He may be crossing his fingers that Kirksey gets healthy & becomes the man, at least for the immediate future. -- I doubt Kirksey was signed to watch from the sidelines. --- On the other hand, if by some freak of nature, either Queen or Murray fall to 30, then GB will have their 2020 1st round pick.

I'm still partial to beefing up the "O" for the immediate future (2020 & 2021)... WR, OL & now RB along with DL... ILB may have to be a 2021 draft priority.

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MITM's picture

April 14, 2020 at 01:50 pm

Forget 2021, ILB was a 2011 draft priority and yet here we are. Fresh off a blowout NFCCG loss where a JAG looked like he was running against a JV team.

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TheVOR's picture

April 14, 2020 at 01:26 pm

IMO Queen is a tweener ILB, smallish, good coverage skills, but we need a gap handling banger! Murray can play, but I'd bet he's gone before GB picks.

I sincerely hope the QB names being throw around to GB at 30 are just front office bait for a trade out with another QB hungry team.
Don't like either guy they're talking about.

GB needs ILB, but I really don't think Murray is there, and I'm not a Queen fan for the fit we need in this D. There's not a Roquan Smith in this draft at 30 for GB, and that's the kind of banger we need, love that player, met him last year, nice fellow, great player.

Maybe like a Logan Wilson in the 2nd round..

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PatrickGB's picture

April 14, 2020 at 02:08 pm

I like Logan Wilson as well. He would be a good value pick. Pettine’s defense wants a player who just fills the gaps anyway.

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Razer's picture

April 14, 2020 at 01:24 pm

Like safety, middle linebacker has been neglected for over a decade. And while I would love any of the top linebackers in this draft, the sad reality is that we have a significant deficiency on the D-line. If guys like Lancaster, Lowry and Adams are getting pushed around and blockers are into the secondary, then, short of Ray Lewis, it won't matter who we have at MLB. Martinez and A.J. Hawk were good linebackers but always criticized for downfield tackles. If your D-linemen aren't beating the opponent's O-linemen - the story will be the same.

Get two more stud interior D-linemen then let's talk about middle linebackers

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April 14, 2020 at 01:27 pm

Ya, a stud DL at 30 wouldn't be a bad look.

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CheesyTex's picture

April 14, 2020 at 02:02 pm

Still hoping Harrison will find his way to GB. A Clark / Harrison duo would take a whole lot of pressure off LB. I know he had a bad year with Lions, but he fits the bill of FA acquisition that a handcuffed Gute can make and has been really good in the past -- perhaps there is interest, and Harrison just thinks he has his best $ leverage by waiting.

IMO a solid plug in the DL may be a more effective answer than spending draft capital on LB. This will be a fun draft.

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splitpea1's picture

April 14, 2020 at 02:52 pm

We need both--thinking long-term, I'm not concerned about which position they address first. Whoever the best prospects are, whether it be ILB or DL, they need to start somewhere now.

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Tarynfor12's picture

April 14, 2020 at 01:27 pm

Will moving up to get the ILB of the dreams for some here be the cure for all that ails this team. I don't see the FO coming close to believing that to even consider such a move. If they did and do so, then all positive thoughts about this FO will take a hit as it becomes clear they don't see the whole picture. ILB upgrade is needed but it isn't the answer for this team this season. Get an ILB on day three.

You don't buy a 5 gallon can of compound to cover a one inch hole in the wall.

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splitpea1's picture

April 14, 2020 at 03:29 pm

What exactly is the whole picture?

Right now the Packers have a lack of quality depth, or in some cases, starters at DL, ILB, WR, and T. You have to build for the long-term. I wish there was just one "answer" for the team this season, but such is not the case.

Just for the record, I do not support moving up in the first round unless it is minimal--no more than two spots. It might be a moot point anyway, because who knows how the draft is going to unfold?

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April 14, 2020 at 01:38 pm

I haven't seen the packers board, but I say in round one, take the highest rated player remaining on their board from any one of these positions: wr, ol, dline or linebacker.
If none are there, trade back, just not too far.

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April 14, 2020 at 03:59 pm

Nailed it mnbadger. Don't reach for a position or player; we have multiple needs so take BPA at one of those four positions.

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April 14, 2020 at 01:46 pm

Packers don’t care about the most important position after QB . We have Burks and Kirksey, don’t expect more.

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PeteK's picture

April 14, 2020 at 03:09 pm

In todays football ILB is not even in the top 3 (OLB, DT,CB) However,I can guarantee you at least one ILB will be drafted .

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dobber's picture

April 14, 2020 at 03:10 pm

Pass-rusher/edge?
Cornerback?
Offensive Tackle?

ILB doesn't top those positions, and no matter how often you say it, it won't become true.

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April 14, 2020 at 03:41 pm

Well now wait a minute maybe he's onto something here. We have had the HOF QB, we've had plenty of great Offensive Tackle play more often than not, and we've done pretty well at CB besides the Ladarius Gunter years. We've had our share of pass rush - And yet, 0 Super Bowls 0 NFCCG wins with INFERIOR ILB play. Strange very strange.

And the year we won the Super Bowl Hawk had his best season inside and earned a Pro Bowl, and Desmond Bishop was an absolute FORCE. Coincidence? Possibly.

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April 14, 2020 at 04:27 pm

Since their last Super Bowl win, overall their entire defense was pretty awful, not just ILB.

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April 14, 2020 at 05:25 pm

Sadly true and even some years before that, specifically the year we lost to Philly, ugh! However, right now we"re close ,just a few tweaks here and there. We haven't been this well balanced in a while.

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April 14, 2020 at 05:38 pm

Hawk and Bishop together was probably the last reliable tandem we have at at inside linebacker , since then the best inside linebacker was Clay Mathews.

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April 16, 2020 at 09:36 pm

Come on MAN.... Gunter was forced in to the boundary when the Packers ran out of bodies. He was outstanding during their run. That whole defense was so injured Capers was using duct tape and bubble gum just to put 11 on the field. I get your point, but smearing a player (a rookie at the time) is low.

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April 14, 2020 at 02:18 pm

Save the Draft Capital for other needs.

IMO just an NFL average DT alongside Clark would relieve enough pressure on LB position to avoid drafting one before round 4.

Hoping Gute can pull off another FA move to achieve that. Of those still out there, IMO Damon Harrison would fit the bill -- he had a down year with the Lions, but before that was really good. Do not know what $ he is looking for, but he would appear to be affordable and would be similar to the other FA acquisitions this year.

It will be a really fun draft this year.

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April 14, 2020 at 03:13 pm

If we draft a player like Fotu , we might not have to spend millions on Harrison.

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April 15, 2020 at 12:53 pm

Fotu is a beast. Move for him in the third.

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April 14, 2020 at 02:22 pm

WR

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April 14, 2020 at 02:35 pm

Hey the pack have drafted poorly over the years. Way too many guys late in the first who didnt pan out. To me the real talent, game changing players are the top ten and then fade fast from there. When you have a GM who selects Rashad Gary with a 12 pick and the guy cant make the field, the Org has bigger problems then a linebacker, way bigger.

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April 14, 2020 at 05:27 pm

Tell that to Bak, Jones,Adams

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Bear's picture

April 14, 2020 at 07:01 pm

Maggie, three linebackers on the roster that are developmental prospects and their RAS: Tim Williams “4.87”, Randy Ramsey “5.51” and Greg Roberts “8.84”.

Jace Sternberger was a 5.24.

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Coldworld's picture

April 15, 2020 at 12:10 am

Roberts was effectively given signing bonus knowing he would be a medical redshirt. They clearly liked him a lot.

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April 14, 2020 at 07:04 pm

For those who want good LBs: Wayne Simmons was a good Lb for the packers. Ted Hendricks was a good LB for the Packers. Nobody understood why they were traded. If you don't think we need a ILB, just look what happened to those teams after these two left. The WR and the Lbs are so deep in this draft!!! Avoiding it will hurt everyone, and it would be a shame.

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April 14, 2020 at 07:15 pm

ILB is not a premium position but should not be ignored either. Id’e be fine with a couple mid rounders.

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April 14, 2020 at 07:24 pm

Player Name College RAS Link
Isaiah Simmons Clemson 9.98 Player Page
Kenneth Murray Oklahoma 9.89 Player Page
Carter Coughlin Minnesota 9.81 Player Page
Willie Gay Jr. Mississippi State 9.71 Player Page
Casey Toohill Stanford 9.69 Player Page
Malik Harrison Ohio State 9.43 Player Page
Logan Wilson Wyoming 8.84 Player Page
Davion Taylor Colorado 8.55 Player Page
Joe Bachie Michigan State 8.28 Player Page
Jacob Phillips Louisiana State 8.21 Player Page
Alex Tchangam Colorado 8.18 Player Page
Mykal Walker Fresno State 8.17 Player Page
Omari Cobb Marshall 8.04 Player Page
Patrick Queen Louisiana State 8.00 Player Page
Zack Baun Wisconsin 7.86

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CoachDino's picture

April 15, 2020 at 01:12 am

Comparing Bush and White to Murray and Queen at this point in the draft process? - i don't know about that. -
Bush and Murray were looked at more like how Isaiah simmons is now. An anomaly at ILB..
Plus whats the price to your overall draft losing your 2nd plus draft picks -

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Bure9620's picture

April 15, 2020 at 04:48 am

Broken Record returns. I have been saying this for years, the Packers do not value ILB. The last and only draft pick was AJ Hawk and that was a different defense and game. I simply do not see the Packers taking Murray or Queen if available. They will rely on Kirksey and will likely role with Oren Burks in year 3 or Bolton or the 7th round kid from TCU as the backup. Remember, Gute traded up to get Burks in the 3rd and will likely give him this year to prove he is not a bust.

Bottom line, Raven Green is going to be in the box with Kirksey in the base 2-4-5 nickel. They want a 3 safety look. The Packers and Pettine prefer more DBs on the field. It is that simple. The odds are better of taking a DB. Look at the draft capital Gute has put into DB.......more than any other position group and that likely continues.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 15, 2020 at 12:46 pm

They will still bag at least two LBs, but not in the first.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 15, 2020 at 12:55 pm

nada

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 15, 2020 at 12:46 pm

They will still bag at least two LBs, but not in the first.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 15, 2020 at 12:46 pm

They will still bag at least two LBs, but not in the first.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 15, 2020 at 12:46 pm

They will still bag at least two LBs, but not in the first.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 15, 2020 at 12:46 pm

They will still bag at least two LBs, but not in the first.

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rigit's picture

April 15, 2020 at 09:48 am

I think after 2-3 years on the roster if the Pack has a decent linebacker coach, the current roster "should" work good enough. Big people are the biggest difference makers. I personally think if a team doesn't need QB or CB you go big boys on DL or OL with pick #1. That's the hardest position to get athletic bodies. That's the largest need, proof in SF game.

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Bure9620's picture

April 15, 2020 at 09:47 pm

They are harder to find...

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Packman60's picture

April 15, 2020 at 10:51 am

The Packers have too many other needs to spend a 2nd or 3rd to trade up to land either Queen or Murray and failing to do so they have no chance at either one. Best to address one of their other needs at 30 and try to get a value pick in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th.

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Packman60's picture

April 15, 2020 at 10:51 am

The Packers have too many other needs to spend a 2nd or 3rd to trade up to land either Queen or Murray and failing to do so they have no chance at either one. Best to address one of their other needs at 30 and try to get a value pick in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th.

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Packman60's picture

April 15, 2020 at 10:51 am

The Packers have too many other needs to spend a 2nd or 3rd to trade up to land either Queen or Murray and failing to do so they have no chance at either one. Best to address one of their other needs at 30 and try to get a value pick in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th.

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tincada's picture

April 15, 2020 at 11:53 am

Is It Time to Invest in an ILB? No , it's tome to invest in a RB. Enough of this "oh, AR save our pathetic asses again by throwing 500,000 passes and we might catch some.

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Duneslick's picture

April 15, 2020 at 01:29 pm

People keep talking about drafting Jalen Hurts. He looks like a Kizer clone. Was not very accurate but had big numbers because his receivers were wide open.

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Duneslick's picture

April 15, 2020 at 01:30 pm

People keep talking about drafting Jalen Hurts. He looks like a Kizer clone. Was not very accurate but had big numbers because his receivers were wide open.

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