Gut Reactions: Packers hit rock bottom against Lions

Aaron chats with Packers fans worldwide after the team hits rock bottom against the Lions. 

 

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ddepula418's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:42 pm

Absolutely horrible coaching and performance.

Fire MLF

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Bitternotsour's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:32 pm

This all falls on Murphy. He consolidated all the power and this ALL belongs to him. Step one: Fire Mark Murphy. Step two, restore the power structure so the GM is responsible for football operations. Gutekunst knows how to do this, he can't have Murphy meddling anymore.

When a team faces adversity it reflects the coach. MLF is not a crisis coach. He's a front runner. Honest to god, I hope Mike McCarthy lays a 50-spot on this embarrassment of a team.

Justice is coming.

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PackyCheese500's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:36 pm

Clear out the whole FO. MLF, Gute, Murphy, everyone

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Geezzzhead's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:42 pm

I agree, I'm sorry, but we had more plays his first year. What happened to the jet sweep?
Swervin Irvin was the only guy that can run it.
How about a option pass. Something we haven't done in 20 years.1st and goal. Run it four times please

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ddepula418's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:43 pm

How about a sprint draw on first or second down on the 15 yard line?

Awful play calling!

Fire MLF! Now!!

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:48 pm

he looked like he was about to cry more than a few times today...that and perplexed look...

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jurp's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:52 pm

I REALLY hate that perplexed look. Good coaches never look like they just can't understand how whatever happened, happened.

He needs to be fired, but I don't trust Murphy (or Ball, if he's really Murphy's replacement) to hire anyone better.

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jlc1's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:47 pm

Rock bottom? Not yet. 3-14 will be rock bottom but even if they win one 1-5 in the division is absolutely rock bottom.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:47 pm

they sure did...hard to watch this kind of football...mistakes all over on both sides of the ball...red zone..who cares they can't score and they turn it over, get a couple of huge stops, nope, first downs given through penalties...dumb team...and why did they go get Sammy Watkins, he still hasn't learned the playbook, runs the wrong routes all the time...send Jones to a contender I hate seeing such a weapon on the sidelines while MLF's man crush Dillon plugs away for 2 yard a run..bah...the Bears are the up and coming team with money to spend and draft picks, Fields looked pretty good running all over today, Packers need a rebuild or they better get accustomed to being a cellar dweller with the Lions...people called todays game the Toilet Bowl, it sure was...

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Lare's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:50 pm

The Packers just don't care- FO, coaches, players.

Neither do I.

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LeotisHarris's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:51 pm

Personally, I did not enjoy watching the game. Can’t speak for anyone else.

Two Dee-Troit players scored their first NFL touchdowns today. That. Is. Special. So proud of those young men.

How did the Lions come up with unstoppable Red Zone plays? What type of magic is involved in scoring touchdowns in those situations? Asking for a friend.

The D held the Lions under 150 yards rushing (immoral victory!).

It seems the pendulum has swung back the other way, and the shoe is now on the other foot for the Green Bay Packers. Whether we’re up a creek without a paddle or caught with our pants down, it’s fair to wonder; just how low can we go?

Watch for falling prices at the Packer Pro Shop.

I’m nauseous.

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jurp's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:53 pm

"just how low can we go?"

I'm pretty sure that Matt Millen and Bill O'Brien are both available as Gutekunst's replacements...

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NickPerry's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:20 pm

UGH...Don't even joke like that. Until Mark Murphy is removed and that won't happen until he removes himself, hires like that are probably possible.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:58 pm

It made me kind of sad, and reminded me of 1968, when we lost at home to the Colts and it was obvious the Packers great run was over. It also kind of had me thinking about 2005, when we went from a team that had won the division three years in a row just decomposed to a 4-12 record, driven largely by poor QB play.

How low can we go? We could go to 3-14, but I don't think that's going to happen and neither do you.

The organization has a lot of thinking to do on the plane ride home tonight. If you don't make any changes, are you competitive against the Cowboys and Titans?

I'd make the change. I don't see us making the playoffs with Aaron Rodgers as our QB this year, and we should find out what we have in Love before we exercise the 5th year option.

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Guam's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:19 pm

The Aaron Rodgers era is rapidly coming to a close. I totally agree we need to find out what the Packers have in Jordan Love. Given the direction of this team, it is entirely possible the Packers will have a shot at drafting one of several pretty good college QBs (Stroud, Young, Hooker, etc.) if need be.

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barutanseijin's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:42 pm

It already closed, at the end of the regular season last year. Stick a fork in him, he’s done.

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Hematite's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:31 pm

I agree, make the change!
It's time to hand the ball to Love and see what he's got.
And they should stick with him through thick or thin.
We aren't going anywhere anyway.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:03 pm

you mean for the fans to see, pretty sure the coaches already know what they got in Love...they see him daily.

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Coldworld's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:12 pm

At this point his record over the next 5 games would probably be similar to Rodgers’ last 5.

Facetious? Yes, but it emphasizes why that argument is no longer relevant.

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dobber's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:48 pm

Should be an interesting starting point for a discussion with all those folks who kept saying this last off-season that the Packers would be lucky to be a 6-win team without Rodgers.

What did Ted Thompson say? That it's better to let a guy go a year early than to give him a cap crippling extension a year late?

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pack69go's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:15 pm

I don't think the coaches know much if they did we would be better!

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NickPerry's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:36 pm

"I'd make the change. I don't see us making the playoffs with Aaron Rodgers as our QB this year, and we should find out what we have in Love before we exercise the 5th year option."

You and I and probably 99% of the Packers fans here are 100% on board with that LH. The salary cap is FUCKED. There's nothing they can do really to bring in anyone next season, and I can't imagine Rodgers wanting to go through another season like this one...ESPECIALLY if he's benched for Love.

BUT I wonder if MLF will do it. He's completely lost this team IMO. It's like watching a rudderless ship in choppy waters. Any GM and/or Team President just needs to listen to one of Lafluer's press conference to realize he has NOTHING left to say. NOTHING to rally his players. Hell, he's been out of answers since last year.

I'll now start cheering for teams like the Texans. Raiders, Jaguars, Panthers, Steelers, and the Lions each week. Each of those teams needs to win at least 2 more games apiece.

IF that was to happen and the Packers drop every remaining game on their schedule, which I think is a pretty good possibility, they'll be in position to draft one of the best QBs in the 2023 draft. Well, unless Love shows us something in the coming weeks.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:05 pm

Nah, they won't lose that many, end up at .500 and screw up getting one of the good young QB's coming out...

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LeotisHarris's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:43 pm

Yeah, the same sadness, LH. A surreal kind of funk.

And, I agree, there isn't anything to be gained by continuing to play Rodgers.

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Lphill's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:53 pm

MLF has lost this team but nothing will happen , no owner , no changes.

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jurp's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:54 pm

Murphy is the de facto owner, and he apparently thinks that he's infallible. So yes, no changes.

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 04:51 pm

Not this year but next year the lions are going to get another boat load of young top picks and their rebuild will be over, probably the top QB in the draft as well since Goof will have played out his very expensive contract.
The Bears are starting to look good and Fields is getting it, two touch downs and 178 yards running yesterday. Throw in 11 drafts picks next year and 100 mil under cap and this team can add some immediate talent to fill holes and give fields the support he needs.
Thus, the packers go into next season as the basement team will no money to spend, 5 starters moving on and a slew of 5,6,7 round picks to add to this weak roster. Not gonna be pretty. Heads will roll for sure

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Roadrunner23's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:56 pm

More pain ahead in the coming weeks!

Blow it up in the Postseason boys!

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gpt999's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:32 pm

His lordship - Captain "Infallible" Mark Murphy - will not allow a rebuild under his "outstanding reign". Don't blame Gutes for this disaster. All personnel decision have to get approved by Captain Infallible first...

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Coldworld's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:19 pm

If he’s infallible then Rodgers “is likely to win his fourth league MVP”. Mark Murphy, Feb. 5th, 2022.

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EnemyTerritory's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:58 pm

Years not weeks.

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NJ-RICK's picture

November 06, 2022 at 03:58 pm

The AX should fall this week... Clearly not acceptable. This team looks lost, something is definitely wrong with this team. Players, coaches and mgt all not on the same page... Very well may not win another game this season. And Jordan Love is not the answer the problem on this team goes much deeper. Sad..!

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tymann7's picture

November 07, 2022 at 08:00 am

How do we know Jordan can't get it done?? we've never seen him in a game situation for more than a few snaps, we have ABSOLUTELY nothing to lose at this point in letting him take the team for a few games...we won't make the playoffs anyway!!

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 05:01 pm

Really? They blew up our pass offense just to keep Rodgers and give him 50mil. There is no way in hell he sits on the bench for Love. That would be saying, we fd it up big time. They dont have the balls to do that and the ax would fall on them if they did.

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 04:58 pm

To me the problem is simple. This is not a talented team. The running game is okay, just okay. The passing game we traded that away for late round picks and took Wyatt with a one to waste that one away,
The O line is made up of pathwork. Jenkins and Bak just cant stay healthy and you filling in crap.
You either have playmakers on both sides of the ball or you dont and we dont. Hell they could have been 8-9 will a lot of work and help.
We gave out offense away. Quit a gift to anyone who plays us.

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Lare's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:00 pm

No written Gut Reactions? I'm not going to watch a video.

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stockholder's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:16 pm

It's blocked so you must subscribe

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bullsa21's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:27 pm

i do subscribe and no gut reactions Aaron is going by the way the team is no f**n clue either

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barutanseijin's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:18 pm

Same.

Time to find another Packer site.

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Lare's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:25 pm

Lombardi Avenue.

Acme Packing Company.

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bigstickpattyb89's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:49 pm

I miss post Packers.com Vic...

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fair_weather's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:02 pm

35 second intro music. Whatever.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:06 pm

nope, I didn't watch it either...just reacting to the comments....podcasts are lazy journalism...

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LeotisHarris's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:32 pm

I haven't watched any of Nagler's video Gut Reactions. I like the guy, but he's not my favorite to listen to or watch.

However, if you are not accessing any of the incredible podcasts that are available to you, that's a huge mistake. There is nothing lazy about what those journos are creating.

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Coldworld's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:20 pm

I won’t either, just scanning the comments because there were so many. We had similar comments last week. Apparently CHTV has a new audience and doesn’t need those of us who prefer to read not listen. After this week I too will be Nagler free. Don’t stay or click where one is obviously no longer wanted.

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calabasa's picture

November 06, 2022 at 11:35 pm

Jesus you guys are pathetic. Are you supporting Cheesehead TV financially? If you are just bitching about how your free Contant isn’t to your liking, then go somewhere else. Nagler and company bust their asses to rep packer fans and newsflash they can’t get super chats on a blog post. They are doing their best to monetize their passion for the Packers and don’t need bitches like you.

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Coldworld's picture

November 07, 2022 at 02:21 am

That’s their choice, though clicks generate add revenue and also depend on keeping those who make them engaged.

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nygary's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:03 pm

MLF could have made a statement towards getting back this team by sitting swollen head Rodgers in the 2nd half. You know the OTA'S that swollen head didn't attend. MLF not playing most of the starters not one play in the preseason. Well when they can't get players on the the same page, and its the middle of the season you know why. Rodgers runs the ship. They gave this Diva the key to the bank and screwed this teams cap for the next few years

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CheesedDeadHead's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:07 pm

Rock Bottom?

We still got 8 more games to hit rock bottom. This was the fluff part of the schedule.

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:08 pm

It was a nice run for many with the three 13-3 records and having the ability to ignore the reality that was obviously lurking.

Reality has kicked down the door of that three year fantasy of the MLF era. All I can say is the word that described the preseason, “WOW”.

Lastly, since it seems apparent that Nagler has decided to do Gut Reactions in video format, this is my last for the Gut Reactions. No, I won't let the door hit me in the ass. I will close it graciously with a thanks for the times before.

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Guam's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:14 pm

I second the thumbs down on the video "Gut Reactions". Well said Taryn.

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fair_weather's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:03 pm

Agreed. We have enough pain in our lives without watching a 40 second intro.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:09 pm

yup I also out...I absolutely will not listen to a podcast...lazy journalism...

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bigstickpattyb89's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:50 pm

Vic used to say, the train is coming! Well, the train finally got here....

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bigstickpattyb89's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:50 pm

duplicate

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NickPerry's picture

November 07, 2022 at 05:53 am

Taryn, you and I haven't agreed on much, mostly because I'm one of the biggest homers here at CHTV. All I can say is you were right on so many counts about this team and MLF the last several seasons.

I'm in total agreement on the video format for Gut Reactions. I'll look for your comments on others though. Some Packers fans need your dose of REALITY, me included!

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 05:06 pm

Ya and we fd up those 13-3 years because rodgers played poorly worried about those top defenders intercepting him and ruining his little day. Last year he threw two, count em, two passes in the playoff game to anyone not named Adams. Lazard was streaking down the middle all alone and Rodgers threw the ball out of bounds to avoid a hit. That all he does not try to avoid a hit and make pre snap decision how he can unload the ball quickly to avoid a hit.

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Starrbrite's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:10 pm

Such a huge disappointment after such great expectations.
Criticisms —where do we start…
Three game changing penalties and a dropped interception by the D near the goaline.
Watkins—did any of us want him?
Watson, can’t remain on the field more than two consecutive plays.
…the worst play calling imaginable.
Dillon—WTH.
Savage—seriously…you’re best tackle of the year was out-of-bounds.
I spent more than the national debt for tickets and lodging for next week’s game vs the Cowboys.
What a huge disappointment.
Oh well—Go Packers!!

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nygary's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:35 pm

You made me finally laugh today with your comment about savage. Its crazy but its very true

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:11 pm

I absolutely don't get the love affair with Dillon...theres a time and place for the plow horse but its not to be a featured back...thats all on MLF...

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Starrbrite's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:11 pm

Exactly—It’s plod, plod, plod—fall down. I feel like I’m watching Bubba Franks or Richard Rogers. And he’s been pathetic on the goal-line —and fumbled at critical times.

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gpt999's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:36 pm

Its too bad that a great and loyal fan has to be let down by the abysmal football product that the GB corporation has delivered to its fans/customers! We deserve much, much, much better!

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marpag1's picture

November 07, 2022 at 12:41 am

Wow, talk about a lack of context.

Yeah, the Packers suck right now. But from 2000 until now only 2 teams have more wins. The Packers have won a superbowl during that time. Aside from New England, which pretty much blows every other team in every other sport out of the water, GB's 1 championship since 2000 is as many or more than all other teams except PIT, BAL, NYG and TB who have 2 each. 19 teams have not won any superbowls during that time. 12 teams haven't even been to a superbowl during that time. And you're mortally offended at not getting what you "deserve" as a loyal fan. LOL.

I'm guessing you didn't live through the 70s and 80s.

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 05:09 pm

I have a good memory and there were whiners on this board, why didnt we get Watson with that one pick, what the hell is going on. Who is Wyatt we want Watson our savior.
Ya a guy who played div1a at a school not one ever heard of and even then he had a lot of injuries and dropsie problems.

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Starrbrite's picture

November 07, 2022 at 08:46 pm

I’m in partial agreement with you Fubared—severely disappointed in Watson.
I am however an NDSU Bison fan—follow them closely. Believe me, NDSU is well known in NFL circles, inspite of the jokes about NoDak.
I believe there are currently 19 NDSU players in the NFL- 2 of which are top five picks (QB’s no less) and a 3rd string QB on the Chargers. Two NDSU players are currently on the Packers, and Billy Turner, also a former Bison.
In any case, NDSU is a run heavy program. Watson was a phenom in a system which seldom passed. He had many drops and that was a huge concern in my mind when we drafted him. And now, here we are…dropping passes and getting injured.

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Todd's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:13 pm

Lots of people bitching about MLF, what about the $50M quarterback? Once again, was average at best.

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Starrbrite's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:47 pm

True—and I have been a ARod apologist, but he must accept a “lions” share of this loss.

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fair_weather's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:04 pm

All the the feet of Murphy and his crazy power scheme.

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Farve4ever's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:45 pm

No, way below average, but why should he care, he already cashed the check.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:56 pm

well if we want to talk millions, what about Bak??? His salary and cap hit are pretty huge also, as bad as Rodgers..those two are costing the Packer a whole lot of $$$$$$

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NickPerry's picture

November 07, 2022 at 05:56 am

Bak was the BEST LT in the game when he signed his extension AND the injury hadn't happened yet.

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Todd's picture

November 07, 2022 at 06:00 am

I also agree Bakh is costing a lot of money, but up until then he also had been essentially injury free.

Bigger and possibly longer issue with him right now is, could this be his last year and what impact does that have on the Packers' salary cap situation?

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stockholder's picture

November 07, 2022 at 07:03 am

The Packers must move on from BAHK.. The in and Out has to stop. Time is the enemy. We need stability along the OL. Might as well Get younger.
Everyone is cutting players because of their Cap problems. I don't see that as a issue with Bahk.
But it wouldn't hurt. Bahk is like a lemon now. You'll never be able to depend on him. He will keep you broke.
Buying what you need doesn't always work! It's time for a better choice.
The packers must draft better, and move on from players with medical issues.

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 05:10 pm

Rodgers gets to keep that money. He leaves the team rich and probably the hall of fame and can blow off the management in later years for not giving him the players he needed. He wont mention he broke the fn bank and destroyed this team.

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Packerlifer's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:13 pm

Whatever goes on with a football team is ultimately the responsibility of the head coach. Matt LaFleur may have just spent all of his capital from those three straight 13 win seasons today.

Could Murphy think about going after Sean Payton, who's out there now? Would he think about giving Eric Bienemy, Kansas City's offensive coordinator, his long awaited head coaching chance?

I couldn't tell you how the Packers went 39-10 the past 3 years looking at the product out there since the second half of the London game. But it's clear MLF has no fix and has lost the team.

What Murphy said when he fired McCarthy in the 2018 season needs to be said now again: this team needs a new voice.

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Bitternotsour's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:40 pm

the new voice it needs is to replace Murphy. he was classless when he let McCarthy go.

he insisted on taking over football operations (ted thompson spinning in his grave) and this is the net effect. Murphy is suited for attending league meetings and kissing roger goodell's ass. He opens a mean sledding hill.

everything this team did in the past was driven toward having a competitive team now, and a competitive team in the future. the sold the future out the window with that horrid contract they gave aaron. i guarantee that has Murphy's finger prints on it. Fire Mark Murphy Monday morning.

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fair_weather's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:04 pm

Disagree. This goes on Murphy.

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Starrbrite's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:07 pm

Sean Payton to the Packers—wouldn’t that be fantastic.
Problem is, he pretty much has said, he will only go where he can be immediately successful—not sure Green Bay would qualify.
Moreover, we spurned him once before, after he badly wanted to be the Green Bay coach.

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dobber's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:40 pm

Nobody, mid-season, would bring in an outside coach.

If there's a change, Bisaccia is pretty much the de facto choice.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:36 pm

...just like i suggested in the summer...

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gpt999's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:39 pm

Murphy make a bold change? He's a dinosaur. He will only make changes if he personally can spin the situation so that someone else takes the blame. He is, after all, the President of a corporation...

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stockholder's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:18 pm

The season long frustrations of Rodgers showed again. I don’t believe he’s lost Lady Luck. But he does need to change his stress solutions.
Like previous games; The Lions knew when to run the ball. And as long as this Defense lets the opposing team control the game. I wouldn’t worry about signing anybody.
I believe the Packers found their OL. Tom is a LT. And Nijman is officially a RT. Keep them there.!!!
The Rookie Wrs keep showing why they are the future. They only need to adjust to the flight of the ball better. Adams learned how. Which is probably why Rodgers likes veterans.
The packers are now spoilers. And not contenders. Still Lets go back to the 4-3-4.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:49 pm

7-10 is looking good right about now. The OT eligible wasn't even sandlot. It was sandbox. Watkins, as I mentioned, needed to go last week. No TEs on this team to create the plays in the seams and hook zones. Gutedkunst let three guys with major knee injuries rehab during season. Watson is being crunched, get him along the sidelines and play to his strength. LaFleur gets an OC gig next spring. The rookie wides just need to work on their steps, release faster.
Watched NFL Red Zone and the rest of the league is similar. Hitting is no longer allowed.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:14 pm

Henry never took off till MLF left Tenn...he did to Henry what he does to Jones...the guy don't have a clue, he should go to college and learn again..

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stockholder's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:58 pm

I believe 6-11. I agree on the WRs. Tonyan has slowed. DeGuara will get more targets. And Gutey wouldn't have tried to trade for a TE, unless he saw the red Zone problem. I believe Rodgers knows he's in a rebuild. The more Rodgers shows his frustration. The More Gutey will make the Gut reactions on change.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:19 pm

Gutedkunst should move along with Murphy to greener pastures. Hockenson would not have been a a big deal to outbid the queens. Number ones eventually need to be impact players. He picked the wrong corner from Georgia. Savage is wasting space. Another misfire giving him the 5th yr option. The first quarter strategy was fine ,but no real RED ZONE threat to bring home the points. La Fleur again goes with some version of crackpot analytics and foregoes the FG in the first QTR. Take the three. Rodgers getting passes tipped and batted down ?

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stockholder's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:11 pm

Hock caught all 9 Targets today. Picked up the offense in 4 days. I said That Stokes was Grabby. (mistake)
And Thornhill was my choice for safety. Also RT Bulaga and C Linsey were going to haunt him. And have!
RED ZONE = This is where they miss Adams. If I was Gutey I would go after another Left handed receiver.
I would have taken the 3s myself.
Rodgers needs to forget about his buddies. He's older and can't carry them anymore.
If Tom can replace Bahk, they better do it. Nijman is getting better at RT. Move on from Hanson, Walker, and Newman.

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Oppy's picture

November 06, 2022 at 11:41 pm

Rodgers threw a ball directly into a defender's helmet who was just past the LOS. The defender wasn't leaping, he had his feet planted on the turf. That's not a tip, that's not batted down. That's a shitty throw by Rodgers.

Why is everyone so committed to creating this bubble of protection around Rodgers?

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croatpackfan's picture

November 07, 2022 at 02:35 am

Because they are afraig of new! They are little scared mouses in front of cat (future)...

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Packerfansupreme's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:18 pm

Even if there is a statistical chance of making playoffs. This team just lost to Detroit. The packers are cooked. Absolutely abysmal season

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mbpacker's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:22 pm

My gut aches too much to react to it.

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GBPDAN1's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:24 pm

We watched a team with Aaron Rodgers at QB Score 9 pts against the worst Defense in the league ..as the team with Rodgers losses its 5th game in a row. All good things must come to an end. Bummer. Lost season. I'd say time for a total gutting and rebuild, but, our GM didn't put us in a good position to do that because of how Rodgers contract is structured and with next years cap situation

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:15 pm

thats what the Bears are doing and it appears its working for them..they gonna be tough next year..they looked good today, even in a loss..

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mbpacker's picture

November 06, 2022 at 08:11 pm

Get the flashlights, spot lights, flares, firepits, etc. ready, it's going to be going dark for awhile.

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GBPDAN1's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:26 pm

This team has a black cloud hanging over it....does this have something to do with that Witch Rodgers is sharing his soul with?

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:26 pm

Ask the preacher on TV.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:00 pm

Really...bringing up Rodgers girlfriends or his hair or his jungle trips in the off seasons...show some maturity...

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GBPDAN1's picture

November 07, 2022 at 02:04 am

It was a question. I was just wondering if his new spiritual journey with 'Blu of Earth' is effecting his game on the field? He sure doesn't seem like the same QB that won back to back MVPs the last 2 years. I'll take your answer as a 'No' you don't think his new personal life is effecting his game.

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tobinrote's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:27 pm

please Aaron, return to written gut reactions. it is bad enough having to watch the packers rather than read about them late sunday or early monday

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Pistolero's picture

November 06, 2022 at 08:09 pm

Everyone said it last week too. This was the best summary of the game and the bottom line after every game. Win or lose it was the article to read.

Please Nags. Gut reactions was great. Why did you blow it up?

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mbpacker's picture

November 06, 2022 at 08:13 pm

Maybe Nags is trying to simplify things as it got to complicated.

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barutanseijin's picture

November 06, 2022 at 08:35 pm

It's probably about money, ie, there's more money in u-chube ads than on a Packer web-site.

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Oppy's picture

November 06, 2022 at 11:45 pm

At least barutanseijin understands.

Corey and Aaron checked out of this joint years ago. Al runs it; and does a great job. Aaron and Corey don't pay attention to the website any longer it seems.

They now cater to the wider audience, which is, generally speaking, the younger, "I need quicker to consume content because I don't have an attention span" audience.

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calabasa's picture

November 06, 2022 at 11:39 pm

The simple answer is financial. He just earned about $50 in super chats recording that 20 minute piece. Good on him for figuring out how to earn some money from his work. Which you apparently appreciate.

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CheesedDeadHead's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:32 pm

Well the last time we had to replace our Franchise QB we already had his replacement in house and didn't need a high draft pick. This time we will have an excellent draft pick and can hopefully get another one (Love could work out too, but that's an unknown). Sure there may be someone smart enough on the Packers to figure out how to fix some of the problems, but they are also smart enough to let it play out with the current cast as there's no better way to guarantee a top 3-5 pick.

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Coldworld's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:37 pm

The fix has to start with clearing out the cap that we’ve stuffed to the gills for the next year or two. It’s pretty laughable that the jokers Ball and Murphy agreed a deal with a QB that prevents us from cutting him for a couple more years. If he doesn’t retire we are stuck with him and more cap unless someone is willing to take his contract ( in a post June 1 trade) or he retires.

Murphy bet the season on Rodgers being MVP level with Lazard and Cobb and minimal cap. Well, actually, he probably bet the next couple as well. That looked very shaky at the time. It has lived up to that view and surpassed it.

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 05:19 pm

Gutt isnt going to let himself look bad and LeFleur knows who signs his paychecks so he aint benching any of Gutts one or two picks that aint working out. That is life and the reality of it. Thus, He will not draft a QB with a 4 5 6 or 7 pick cause it means he doesnt think Love his other one pick is any good.

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TOMMY'63's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:33 pm

Greetings to all our beloved fans. I haven't posted since our playoff loss.I must say we are truly a disgrace and the laughing stock of the nfl. How is this possible after only 1 season? I'm 59 years of age. Unfortunately I wasn't able to truly watch the great Lombardi packers, I was too young to enjoy. I had to suffer through out my youth the shite of the 70s and 80s. When the great Lombardi left ,maybe he didn't realise he left the club to go to shite with such incompetent people. Then wolf came with Holmgren a small flaame lit,but still we won too little. Then Sherman,Thompson & gravy fart.Why ? Why does our football club have to be governed by mediocrity? I know Lombardi was a true great,only Bellichick is comparable to him.It will be probably another 50 to 70 years before another Bellichick and Lombardi will come around. I hope we loose all of our remaining matches, so maybe just maybe we can clean house like God commands,from Murphy down to trainers and the waterborne.what a disgrace of a team.to fall so hard after 1 season bye everyone

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gpt999's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:45 pm

If only the GB directors had the guts to turf Murphy before his July 2025 tenure ends! My guess is that he has some "golden parachute" deal if he is released prior to this date? He stays until he turns 70. He doesn't have to be competent at his job. He is tenured by AGE! How many of us could keep our jobs no matter how badly we perform? Only 1 guy I can think of...

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 05:23 pm

ITs money and the fact that all teams backload contracts and get rid of guys for picks before they have to pay the piper.
Murphy has refused to do it because the packers are publicly owned and he has an oblication to pay as you go to keep debt off the boards. Thus Rodgers bak and Jaire are eating 1/2 the money so you need to find 5,6,7 round picks and avoid top free agent talent to fill a hole or two. That is why the team sucks

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Wilment's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:35 pm

Im not sure what to say here. I love this team, have for almost sixty years through good, bad, great and dismal. Boys and girls, we got problems. Offense continue to be offensive. We have gotten so bad in the red zone that we are now throwing to our banged up left tackle on a trick play? On fourth down:? And it gets picked by a d lineman? If this was growing pains like the first year with Rodgers, I wouldnt say a word. This is a franchise and team in disarray. Somebody send up a flare to Ron Wolff ......Go Pack!

12 points
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Swisch's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:41 pm

More than six minutes into this video chat, I miss the old way of doing gut reactions in writing.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:18 pm

yup, podcasts are bullshit...

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nygary's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:45 pm

MLF can you PLEASE play more of the younger guys and see what talent they have or don't have. Even guys off the practice squad who did well in the pre season. Does Lowry still have to get so many reps and just piss me off when he's laying on the ground as usual. Maybe with all the injuries MLF will have no choice. Please give Jordan Love a shot Please.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:09 pm

They missed their chance to move Lowry last Spring.

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NickPerry's picture

November 06, 2022 at 04:52 pm

I REALLY want to listen to McAfee now and see what Rodgers has to say. Who's he going to blame this week? Who's he throwing under the bus? Just reading his lips today as best I could show me once again it was never his fault.

Rodgers has never been well liked or close to adored like Bart or even Brett before he got all wishy-washy and then went to the Vikings. But Rodgers is a different breed. I don't know how this is going to end, but Rodgers is quickly becoming one the only all time greats I can think of right this second, that more people than not, DO NOT LIKE HIM.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:44 pm

"not like" is too weak a description...

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Johnblood27's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:39 pm

Dear down-voter,

FUCK YOU ALL TO HELL AND BACK AGAIN!!!!!

Suck it!

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marpag1's picture

November 06, 2022 at 09:55 pm

I downvoted this lame comment. You're dropping F-bombs on the board because of a down vote? Really? 😂

Enjoy another down vote from me. LOL.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 07, 2022 at 07:39 am

Thank you.

f bombs are OK here, if nags does so regularly then it seems to be fair game at CHTV.

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stockholder's picture

November 06, 2022 at 09:03 pm

Aaron Rodgers to The press - You're No different than the evil empire. Lefluer to Rodgers- I see the Good in you. Rodgers to McAfee= LeFluer has the Wookiee on his back. McAfree to Rodgers- This isn't what were looking 4.

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calabasa's picture

November 06, 2022 at 11:42 pm

Yeah this might be the only category that he edges out Tom Brady in. 

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 05:27 pm

Oh come on Nick. He will blame the run game. Why didnt we block better so our run game could carry the load instead of forcing him to toss those inadvertent balls to the Lions.
Also the lighting in the stadium was kind of dim.
The field was rough like cement and hurt his flat feet.
One lion called him a name and hurt his ego.
The play calling didnt fit the situation.
No one won the powerball.

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Packers0808's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:05 pm

The way Rodgers was throwing that to nobody in the vicinity so often today, I really think Rodgers did that on purpose and purposely threw the game! I know I will get burned for saying that so blatantly but after watching that and then the expression after so much of it happening it looked like he care and give a shit less and did the game to lose! Looked like he did when he got rid of McCarthy so banally!

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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:17 pm

well the last pass its obvious that the WR *watkins? didn't go to the corner as expected...watkins rarely runs the correct route for one thing, everyone else gets hurt all the time...its Lazard or no one...and thats the way it will probably be for the rest of the season...

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Coldworld's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:41 pm

Yet we rush to trot out Watkins if he can at least walk. Let’s not forget that this offense is ineptly planned and coached.

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TOMMY'63's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:19 pm

Hey since 61 are you outthere?I would like to hear hear your thoughts about what could be such incompetentce from our front office. 50 million xyear to Rodgers,knowing bahkthiari and jennings wouldn't be the same starting to play this year after their injuries. Not acquiring valid relievers,we can't throw the damn ball.Knowing not to have replaced a valid rt for Taylor. Putting Stenoviç at oc,obviously not competent ecc

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Roadrunner23's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:23 pm

Hey 12!

How much 💰💰💰 you get for throwing these games bra?!

Shame on you

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LeotisHarris's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:41 pm

If you see Nostradanus, please tell him we can't miss him if he won't go away.

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Since'61's picture

November 06, 2022 at 05:51 pm

My gut reaction is stupidity. Complete and total. No excuses. Thanks, Since ‘61

5 points
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stockholder's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:22 pm

Marvin Wilson is on the PS for the eagles. If I was Gutey I would go after him.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:44 pm

He was activated on TR, did they put him back on the PS?

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stockholder's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:49 pm

He's on the PS according to Ourlads.

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Johnblood27's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:45 pm

can he coach?

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stockholder's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:16 pm

No- But Lazard better not take off his football hemet again.

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Since'61's picture

November 06, 2022 at 08:28 pm

What would the point of acquiring Marvin Wilson??!! It's not like he is going to save our season. Why waste any cap space or draft capital? Thanks, Since '61

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BAMABADGER's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:26 pm

And Tom Brady takes 1:20 to drive for the winning TD against the vaulted Ram D.

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 05:28 pm

No it was a lot shorter then that. Tom had like 40 seconds.

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gpt999's picture

November 06, 2022 at 06:28 pm

Yes, I have been a GB fan as long as I can remember. As a guy who loves passing oriented offenses, I have loved watching Rodgers up to this season. Even Favre before him. Favre was a high risk gunslinger and the games were high scoring and exciting to watch.

But watching such poor football from this team is not what I want to see when I watch ANY game. I can't say I have ever seen a team that executes so badly. The coaching is absolutely abysmal. Front office management is, well, pitiful. Does that cover the entire football side of the organization?

And the sad fact is that they are too inflexible to change. They have a tenured President who won't leave until the summer of 2025. No matter how he destroys this team in the meantime, he is in until then. They can't change Coordinators because its "too disruptive" - for a 3-6 team? Poor performers like Savage, Amari Rodgers, and a host of others are allowed to continue over other players? The Definition of Insanity must be the mission statement of the GB Packers.

So can I really look forward to improvement in the offseason? Not with Captain Murphy directing this Ship of Fools...

5 points
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Packerpasty's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:02 pm

The organization makes way too much money from the team, Titletown area, pro shop, training camp brings thousands of visitors to the area and the season games are sold out...whats to worry...

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Coach Cleve Steamer's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:15 pm

Lotta season left! Too much season with this clown car. 😒

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LeotisHarris's picture

November 06, 2022 at 08:54 pm

As it is written in Crustaceans 3:12, "...as ye sew, so shall ye reek.." The clown car adventure continues next week when Uncle Mike returns to Lambeau to tell Murph and 12 "I got yer pad level right here, baby," while rolling out a tasty buffet of crow and humble pie.

Resuscitations14:4-9 tells of humiliations at the hands of purple-clad invaders of Nordic persuasion. In addition, a lot of people, many, many people are saying there will be a cleansing and transfer of some type of ownership in December in Chicago.

Don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

3 points
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NJMagic's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:23 pm

Just echoing the pleas to return to the written reactions....

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albert999's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:41 pm

Nagler if u have any balls
Ask tough questions at the press conference

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albert999's picture

November 06, 2022 at 07:43 pm

Packer owner

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

November 06, 2022 at 08:00 pm

I read all the comments and there were plenty of good ones and I gave out a dose of well deserved thumbs up.

I saw no support for Aaron Nagler using the podcast and I did watch most of it so I could comment and I too would recommend that Aaron take the advise of of the posters here and use a written format. Like most of you, I read a lot faster than I listen and it was tedious to listen to the podcast and then to sit through some of the questions from fans made it drag on. Aaron can do better and I think he will.

Today was the darkest of days for the Packers in a very long time.

2 points
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Since'61's picture

November 06, 2022 at 08:31 pm

Chuck Murphy, Gute and MLF. If not now the Monday after this season is over.

Also chuck the Podcasts.

With this plan we fix management, coaching and CHTV in one fell swoop. Thanks, Since '61

3 points
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JerseyCheese's picture

November 06, 2022 at 08:39 pm

Now both Aarons are arrogant! Nags is doing videos now thinking we’re gonna watch his gut reactions rather than writing them?

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JerseyCheese's picture

November 06, 2022 at 08:42 pm

Aaron Rodgers IS the problem! He does NOT want to buy into running the ball and playing good defense. His ego wont allow it! And his body language sucks!!! Always yelling/cursing at his teammates.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 07, 2022 at 09:11 am

Apparently, neither does the team.

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4thand10's picture

November 06, 2022 at 08:55 pm

why does this offense not look like a LaFluer offense? Why does Rodgers insist on a McCarthy style offense? If Lafluer is as good as his last couple of seasons why doesn’t he insist that Rodgers follows the game plan? I don’t know if these are the issues, but the smell test tells me they are.

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 09:53 am

LeFluers mentor got his butt kicked yesterday to (Rams). He has no answer for a team underperforming. Just goes to show its really having talented players around you on both sides the ball who arent all hurt and who the GM delivered via the draft and free agency that makes the coaches. Lefluer has no clue what or how to fix a thing since he learned working under winning programs.

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mbpacker's picture

November 06, 2022 at 08:57 pm

SOS !

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stockholder's picture

November 06, 2022 at 10:56 pm

Years ago I learned when you swear. It shows a lack of intelligence. I get he's trying to win. Is hurt. Maybe inside as much as out.
But I believe it's having a adverse effect on him, more than anyone else. And as the camera's film his words and actions. I wonder if he couldn't refrain from it, just a little. After all; children and fans have admired him over the years. -( IT is a little shocking. )
But at some point he's going to hang himself if given too much rope. I Doubt anyone will make him bite on a bar of soap.
And maybe this is the only way he feels he can express himself. Obviously there is a lack of communication. A disconnect.
I have always thought Rodgers was the smartest, most Talented guy on the field. Acting like a ass -hole won't accomplish anything.
I think he realizes that. Everyone must try harder. Hopefully everyone will.

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Oppy's picture

November 06, 2022 at 11:56 pm

Years ago you learned what people who didn't conduct studies taught you. People who have conducted studies have found that people who curse periodically to regularly have a higher correlation to honesty and intelligence than those who do not.

There, now you learned some shit. :)

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stockholder's picture

November 07, 2022 at 06:28 am

No s**t. :(

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 09:49 am

I think he has a right to swear considering he was expecting the run game to take the ball out of his hands most of the game and he could just pass those short yarders that were gauranteed to succeed and keep his passer rating up. Instead he was forced to throw the ball and we all saw what happens when he has to make a throw these days.

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potrezebie's picture

November 06, 2022 at 11:07 pm

Once I thought there was no difference between arrogant moron Kyrie Irving and arrogant moron Aaron Rodgers. Now I know the difference. Kyrie can still play.

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Spawny's picture

November 07, 2022 at 04:18 am

Who is this?
Aaron Nagler?
Who are you?

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Spawny's picture

November 07, 2022 at 04:21 am

Our offensive line stinks. Kind of smells like a butt kiss.

1 points
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Spawny's picture

November 07, 2022 at 04:23 am

Joe Barry was a working man.
He should go back to loading an econoline van.

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Ima Payne's picture

November 07, 2022 at 09:44 am

I like to say the O line did a job job protecting Diva Boy, but I saw last weeks Lions game against Miami and their pass rush was non existent. But still they held their own except in run blocking but you cant expect them to be able to do both well can you? Hey either Bak can play or he cant.
Once Stokes went up our pass d and tackling improved a lot of defense. We still had some big holes open but the fact that the Lions best receiver missed the game helped us out a lot.
I have a new name for Watson "two play Watson". Thats about right, two plays and he goes out hurt. What a find by Gutt the genius.
Good thing we have a wide variety of players on the practice squad to fill in for all those injuries. Wonder if Love and play receiver a little bit???
With any luck we may be the second pick in the draft.

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