Extra Cheese: What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?

Aaron chats with Packers fans after a former great Packers QB makes headlines after speaking about a current one.

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greengold's picture

April 29, 2020 at 05:38 pm

A really good job of F'ing everything up for the Packers. w o w! Thought he might have more sense and care a bit more for his former team. This is a pain in the ass. Again.

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Pauly's picture

April 30, 2020 at 01:05 pm

Farve is just telling the truth.
A side note: Love's Combine analysis looks just as poor as Kizer's and we know how that turned out !

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 30, 2020 at 08:52 pm

Favre and AR aren't buddies. Favre has no idea what AR thinks. But Favre likes attention. Dumb as a rock, not a good person, I have zero interest in anything Favre says.

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Johnkh's picture

May 03, 2020 at 05:54 pm

You can't say or know Brett is telling the truth only Aaron can . I understand many of us and you are a Brett fan I get that but he has no idea what's going to happen or the packers reason or Aaron's. As far as Jordan Love and his analysis wait and give the kid a chance like we all did with Brett and Aaron you can't blame GB for picking a QB they need to start looking for the future whether it is Jordan or someone else they may draft down the road. Let Aaron and the rest of the Packers do there job and hopefully we'll get further next year. Thanks

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Johnkh's picture

April 29, 2020 at 06:00 pm

Brett along with national media want a controversy need something to talk about. This is a job like any other and like any job they hire others so get over it. Even if you don't agree or like the draft choice the packers are looking out for themselves. Do you see any of these guys taking a cut in pay because the like the packers so much open your damn eyes people

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ghostdog1108's picture

April 29, 2020 at 06:18 pm

He's an asshole!

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Packerpasty's picture

April 29, 2020 at 06:37 pm

he was asked questions, he answered them....its what he thinks...he says he talked to and does talk to Rodgers enough to know how he feels and whats going on with the team....I pretty much agree with what he said...I bet Arod doesn't finish out here and that will be fine with Guty and LaFlower...they want a follower not a leader..

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Coldworld's picture

April 30, 2020 at 08:56 am

He likes attention and relevance. He put himself there knowing where they would go.

That said, he didn’t really say much other than sort of justify what he did by juxtaposing the same on Rodgers.

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4zone's picture

April 30, 2020 at 12:02 pm

You can follow and lead at the same time. Everyone answers to someone. AR most likely WILL end his career elsewhere unless he pulls a Berry Sanders. He is addicted to his profession like many others and few find it easy to step away. No motives need be assigned here, it's just the way it usually goes.

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PackFlip's picture

April 29, 2020 at 06:37 pm

Aaron is getting his revenge through Brett's comments! Go Brett!!!

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Tabin's picture

April 30, 2020 at 03:59 am

Spot on

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Coldworld's picture

April 30, 2020 at 09:17 am

If Aaron needs to speak through Brett, he is far less of a man than I thought and far less shrewd in his choice of a surrogate spokesman than I give him credit for.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 30, 2020 at 06:39 pm

Revenge for what? Being drafted by the Pack and given a team that should have won more than One SB?
Take the soap opera bullshit somewhere else. The real journalism is covering one of the most deadly pandemics to ever touch the sacred soil of the United States.

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Samson's picture

April 29, 2020 at 06:38 pm

Hey --- love the Brett... but he needs to "Google Hobby" & find something better to do.. He was a self-absorbed clown back in 2008... My team (GB Packers) meant little to him at the time.

Unfortunately, I really don't expect a whole lot more from AR.... The divorce could get nasty.... Makes no difference.... Players come & go.. The Packers & Pack Fans will always remain... The team & it's life long fans have always been the important parts of this relationship.

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murf7777's picture

April 29, 2020 at 08:53 pm

I agree Samson. And no different from what happened to Brady, Manning, Favre and Montana. Nothing new or personal-it’s just business and it’s a young mans game. Packers are planning their future and sooner or later Rodgers won’t be part of it.

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Hornungfan's picture

April 29, 2020 at 06:44 pm

Regarding Rodgers effectiveness in playing "within the offense" is my impression correct that in 2015 the Chargers boldly (and correctly) concluded that the "Emperor has no clothes" meaning they didn't need to fear the Packers WR's beating them deep and, therefore, cheated defensively very effectively? Even though the Packers ended up winning the game, the rest of the NFL noticed the Chargers defense and copied it very effectively. It wasn't until Rodgers went to a short rhythm passing game that the Packers had success offensively.

While I love Rodgers heroics and lightning strike touchdown drives, that only tends to work if you maintain sufficient balance so the defenses can't cheat on you. Plus, when you don't have the personnel, like they the Packers didn't have deep threats in 2015 despite having Rodgers, when you try to force a square peg into a round hole, you are eventually asking for trouble.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

April 30, 2020 at 08:37 am

What's with fans and the "square peg round hole" analogy? Players change positions all the time in HS, college, and the NFL. The players are professional athletes. No one claims CM3 switching from OLB to ILb was trying to force a square peg into a round hole because it worked.

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Pauly's picture

April 30, 2020 at 01:09 pm

You are right and that's on TT and MM not recognizing the need for speedy WRs. Plus on MM idea of WR's had to beat coverage was his only play scheme.
Soon after Jordy went down teams realized playing man coverage could shut down GB.

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dfarmer's picture

April 29, 2020 at 06:53 pm

Favre couldn't even predict his own future and now we should think he can predict the future of Rogers. He is a joke...

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Lphill's picture

April 29, 2020 at 07:06 pm

Regardless what Favre says , why should Rodgers want to stay , I have been saying it since before the draft, let him get a ring with the Patriots or 49 ers , the Packers now are a sub 500 team and a clown show and Gute is the ringmaster.

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Coldworld's picture

April 30, 2020 at 08:58 am

At some point explanation to the three wise monkeys is pointless

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13TimeChamps's picture

April 30, 2020 at 11:22 am

"I have been saying it since before the draft"

Yes you have, Over and over and over and over........

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GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

April 29, 2020 at 07:27 pm

And ML wants AR to mentor JL. Wow! The FO screws AR by not improving the team and he wants him to mentor... what a sleaze ball. I hate this franchise because of what it has devolved into. I will not watch another game until the circus clowns MM, BG and ML are all gone.

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Samson's picture

April 29, 2020 at 07:33 pm

LOL --- What a silly rant!... MM, BG & ML are not going anywhere anytime soon... The next games may be season 2021 so you'll have plenty of time to reevaluate your position.... Good luck.

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murf7777's picture

April 29, 2020 at 08:46 pm

How do you know they MLF wants Aaron to mentor Love. Did he say this publicly?

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yooper81's picture

April 29, 2020 at 10:13 pm

Baa. Bye

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stockholder's picture

April 30, 2020 at 10:50 am

Again, No endorsement for Rodgers. Favre isn't out of line. It's a free country. Let him speak. You can't make this mess go away. No they should not have taken Love! Protecting the franchise had nothing to do with this!!

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Pauly's picture

April 30, 2020 at 01:02 pm

Correct.
Wasting drafts 1&4 on a QB whose Combine analysis looks just like Kizer's ( lot interceptions, poor pocket acuity, staring down WRs) and picking him 2 years early.
The truth will be obvious 2-3 years from now when we see how the Dolphin's 1 year systematic rebuild turns with QB Tau and 5 first & 2nd round draft picks this year and Love is GB QB.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 29, 2020 at 08:11 pm

If you think that Favre cares about the Packers or Rodgers more than stoking his own need for attention.....you’re hallucinating.

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Packerpasty's picture

April 30, 2020 at 09:50 am

could it be possible he's simply speaking his mind on what he thinks will happen?? Boy, all the Gute/BoyWonder cheerleaders get vicious when they hear something that doesn't fit their thinking...

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Coldworld's picture

April 30, 2020 at 10:30 am

He really didn’t say anything surprising or controversial. Could it be you are looking for validation?

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Lphill's picture

April 29, 2020 at 08:26 pm

The clown show all over NFL network , thanks Gute !

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yooper81's picture

April 29, 2020 at 10:24 pm

Who gives a rat's ass. Rogers is the QB#1. Love may be the next Rogers and we can only hope. But Arod ain't going anywhere for for 2-3 years and Love will learn and avoid the bears epidemic of failed qb play for years to come. It is, after all a business, and of all people Aaron Rodgers knows this.

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Coldworld's picture

April 30, 2020 at 09:21 am

Lol, like that matters to anyone that Favre was on network tv saying nothing much of anything as usual

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wildbill's picture

April 29, 2020 at 09:13 pm

I thought Favre was honest in his answers. Favre, Manning,Montana,Unitas, Brady, all ended up with other teams so it won’t be unusual if Rodgers does. They say it’s a business but there are emotions involved as we are dealing with human beings. Not looking forward to the day Rodgers is gone to another team but am willing to support his replacement 100%

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jyros's picture

April 29, 2020 at 09:19 pm

Just let the players play and the coaches coach, and pray there’s a season to watch. Turn off the Packer soap opera.

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Mark King's picture

April 29, 2020 at 10:07 pm

Often we speculate what others might do through the lens of what WE would do if we were them. Favre does not understand Rodger's actions or motivations for doing things. All we just got is a testimony of what Favre would do if he were Rodgers.....which we already knew. Loved Favre's passion while playing (in the early years especially) but this stuff I could do without.

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Since'61's picture

April 29, 2020 at 11:00 pm

Bottom line is that unless Love is a bust Rodgers will be done in Green Bay after the 2021 season at the latest. Why? Because Gute can not justify wasting 1st round draft capital on a backup QB for
3-4 seasons. It is just not sustainable or defensible.

Plus if Rodgers is still healthy and plays well, which I believe he will if uninjured, he will still be worth some solid draft picks in a trade. But the most important reason for him to be gone is that Gute and MLF want Love to run their offense rather than Rodgers.

Gute and MLF are now tied to Love like Wolf and Holmgren were tied to Favre and TT/MM were tied to Rodgers. Love is their guy now. Unfortunately, Gute and MLF are not Wolf and Holmgren, at least not yet.

The idea that Rodgers will be here for another 3-4 seasons or playing in Green Bay into his forties is ridiculous. If Gute thought that was the case why is he drafting Love now? Teams rarely plan for 5+ years out and they don’t wait 3 plus seasons for their 1st round picks to get in the field. Unless Love is a bust Rodgers days in Green Bay are numbered and if Love is a bust then Gute’s days in Green Bay are numbered. Love is all you need. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Guam's picture

April 29, 2020 at 11:06 pm

Cookie for you Since '61! Completely agree with this perspective. I think MLF saw one season with Rodgers and realized Rodgers and his system were a mismatch. I suspect Rodgers is gone after the 2020 season.

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albert999's picture

April 30, 2020 at 09:05 am

It’s not ridiculous if he wins another Super Bowl ....or 2

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Coldworld's picture

April 30, 2020 at 10:35 am

I have to agree. Well stated if uncomfortable truths.

I have caught myself wondering if the playing into the 40s desire was really plausible. I know Brady is, but he has never been as mobile. Rodgers game would have to adapt I think. At some point all things come to an end. The 40s are rare territory indeed.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 30, 2020 at 06:48 pm

Three more year of Rodgers. Never let the accountants run your Company.

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Pauly's picture

April 30, 2020 at 01:27 pm

Agree...
2 thoughts I think are important.
First, when I looked at Combine Draft analysis Love and Kizer look extremely similar. Both have the same negatives and that's scary. Lots of interceptions and poor acuity in the pocket.

2nd, I have thought all along the only way (besides luck) to rebuild a team is to ride this horse (AR) long as possible then do what the Dolphins did this year. A 1 year rebuild. Sell off assets, high draft pick QB Tau, ( 5 first & 2nd round picks) and we will see the results of the two systems 2- 3 yrs from now when Love is playing without WRs and Tau is in his 2nd or 3 rd year with what should be a strong team.

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Harold Drake's picture

April 30, 2020 at 01:46 am

The bottom line is this: Justin Love does not help the Packers in terms of helping the team win this year or next. Dillon should help the Pack in 2020, perhaps the no-name TE, too. The rest, no. Now we need to hope that Lazard, EQ, and MVS have banner years to make up for the fact that the Packers' front office used the first round pick to take a QB with a poor throwing motion and who will likely never start a game until 2022 or beyond. What Gute did by drafting Love is to further alienate Rodgers who as a future HOF QB should be given some consideration. And the loss to the 49ers in the NFC championship can be blamed as much on the terrible game plan LaFleur put into play and which Rodgers tried to execute in the first half as well as a defence that could not stop the run. So why did the Packers at least not draft a run-stopping DL or ILB? But the Packers' apologists fail to appreciate all of the above. One can still support a team and criticise poor management decisions.

Brett Favre had just spoken to Rodgers before he spoke to Eisen and clearly, based on Favre's remarls, Rodgers is just as surprised and disappointed that the Pack picked a QB project instead of someone who could have made a positive contribution in the drive towards a Super Bowl this season. The Pack finished 14 - 3 (including the win over Seattle) last season and other top teams by and large upgraded their teams with the first pick to win NOW. The future is NOW. Go Pack Go.

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Tabin's picture

April 30, 2020 at 04:23 am

I agree 100%. Looks like Rogers sees what many of the fans see. Gute and MLF are closing the window of Rogers SB after a 13-3. Everybody talks about how terrible Pettine defensive plan was against the 49ers but MLF Offensive play calling wasn´t much better. You can run against that defense as the Chiefs showed in the SB and you can pass against them as Rogers Adams showed the way to Mahomes Watkins. Give Rogers weapons now, get and FA DT that help against the run and think about the future in a couple of years. They are trying to sell to us that Love was once in a time chance and we need to feel lucky we got him. I think that there is a QB like Love to be taken at the end of the first round every year. The Love and Deguara picks were terrible.

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Harold Drake's picture

April 30, 2020 at 04:56 am

Thanks for your comment. I have a hard time understanding why so many of the people in the comments section seem to be willing to go along with the Gute disaster management draft. And even Nagler is softpedalling any criticism which seems odd since he is otherwise one of the top Packers' commentators. Every serious TV and print commentator who I have seen or read HATES the Packers' draft. Without any equivocation. And Rich Eisen and everyone he has had on his show has trashed Gute's strategy and the seeming slight of Rodgers. Now we have to pray that Lazard, EQ, and MVS in particular can show improvement this season - that seems to be the gamble that Gute and LaFleur are making. If the Packers had a billionaire owner, I think Gutekunst would have been fired after choosing Love, especially after committing an obvious error by trading away a fourth round pick to get him when the teams picking ahead of the Pack had no intention of taking a QB (although Gutekunst might have heard that one of those teams was looking at Love). In general, it is so disappointing that the Packers have gone in this direction. This is our last window of opportunity with Rodgers and the Pack has once again - check out PTI's Tony Kornheiser who said that the Packers have done nothing to help Rodgers for the last five years in terms of getting him elite WRs. I don't understand why no one at CHTV is trashing the draft. Doesn't make sense to me unless it's a PR strategy aimed at trying to maintain good relations and access to Gute and LaFleur.

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Coldworld's picture

April 30, 2020 at 09:11 am

It’s good to have company in dark I guess. If a QB of the ilk that the Packers clearly feel Love is existed anywhere in the draft each year, every team would have a Rodgers.

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Lare's picture

April 30, 2020 at 01:15 pm

"I don't understand why no one at CHTV is trashing the draft. Doesn't make sense to me unless it's a PR strategy aimed at trying to maintain good relations and access to Gute and LaFleur."

If that's the case, we'll see if Gutekunst and/or LaFleur reward them for their continued support.

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Pauly's picture

April 30, 2020 at 01:36 pm

Agree...
2 thoughts I think are important.
First, when I looked at Combine Draft analysis Love and Kizer look extremely similar. Both have the same negatives and that's scary. Lots of interceptions and poor acuity in the pocket. Similar College play history.

2nd, I have thought all along the only way (besides luck) to rebuild a team is to ride this horse (AR) long as possible with high offensive picks. The last WR picked, Adams was 6 yrs ago.
Then do what the Dolphins did this year. A 1 year rebuild. Sell off assets, high draft pick QB Tau, ( 5 first & 2nd round picks) and we will see the results of the two systems 2- 3 yrs from now when Love is playing without WRs and Tau is in his 2nd or 3 rd year with what should be a strong team.

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Coldworld's picture

April 30, 2020 at 09:08 am

Maybe, but Favre didn’t really say that. He also didn’t say just before. He also didn’t say who called who or explicitly say he knew Rodgers’ reaction.

I get it, he said just enough to infer. He certainly never said Rodgers was done with the Packers now. Rather his actual words seem to suggest that he thinks Love will supplant at some point and that’s when it gets ugly.

So, lots of nothing to validly hang a hat on. Queue all sorts of fantasy derivations.

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Packerpasty's picture

April 30, 2020 at 09:53 am

I agree...whats so hard to understand?? Favre talked with Rodgers, this is what Favre thinks is going on and what may go on...so why all the hate?? because your not hearing what you want...you don't want any negativity...sorry but that is part of life...

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edp1959's picture

April 30, 2020 at 03:21 am

I look forward to watching the 80's all over again after this clown show is over. Let Aaron go to another team and win at least 3 more rings if he goes to the right team. It will be hilarious listening to some of you bitch and moan.

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Packerpasty's picture

April 30, 2020 at 09:54 am

I wish he could go somewhere else, take Bak with him and Adams...they all deserve another shot at a Super Bowl...

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greengold's picture

April 30, 2020 at 05:15 pm

How in the F can there possibly be 4 likes on this? What is wrong with some of you “fans?” Packer fans? Really???

Lame.

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 30, 2020 at 06:53 pm

THey had chances in 2011,2014, 2016, 2019 Time to Deliver the goods, no excuses.

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13chpshps's picture

April 30, 2020 at 10:33 am

Dear Aaron, "What the hell is Brett Favre doing here?" I think in America we call it expressing an opinion, sorry it clashes with yours. Many of us feel that both Favre and Rodgers were grossly underserved by their GM's in acquiring talent via the draft, free agency and trades. Two championships for players of this magnitude speaks volumes.

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Coldworld's picture

April 30, 2020 at 10:38 am

Wow

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jannes bjornson's picture

April 30, 2020 at 06:56 pm

Then Favre should not have telegraphed INTs in the Denver game or the 2007 NFC CH @ Home, right?

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Alberta_Packer's picture

April 30, 2020 at 11:16 am

A real world problem - the global pandemic. NOT a real world problem - Packers drafting Love - Rodgers and Favre upset.

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PAPackerbacker's picture

April 30, 2020 at 12:24 pm

Rodgers is a pro and he will do his best to win. But he needs more talent around him to do that. A QB that is sitting on the bench not ready for the NFL and is a developmental player is not going to help the Packers win games for a couple of years at best. I'm not questioning the talent of Love. I am wondering why the immediate needs for the team were not met now. The future will determine how good or bad the decision was to select Love. And so will be the decision not to get one or more of the talented players at WR and also talented help on defense to stop the run. I will remain a Packer fan no matter what the outcome. For me it's not about personal ego's, it's about what's best for the team. I just hope that one or more of the WR's on the roster will step up and prove me wrong. And the same goes for the defensive side of the ball too. The future is now.

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Lare's picture

April 30, 2020 at 04:36 pm

Rodgers is a pro, but I think it's become obvious that the Packers leadership is more about getting rid of him and getting their own hand-picked players in than it is about the team winning Super Bowls.

I'd suggest that Rodgers play with the primary intent to protect his health so that when he plays with his next team (that is intent on winning a Super Bowl) that he is able to aid in that endeavor.

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Pauly's picture

April 30, 2020 at 01:46 pm

Aaron, if what you wanted was controversy you managed it with your questionable statement. Ever hear of "free speech" ?

2 thoughts I think are important.
First, when I looked at Combine Draft analysis Love and Kizer look extremely similar. Both have the same negatives and that's scary. Lots of interceptions and poor acuity in the pocket. Similar College play history.

2nd, I have thought all along the only way (besides luck) to rebuild a team is to ride this horse (AR) long as possible with high offensive picks for NOW. The last WR picked, Adams was 6 yrs ago.
Adding a RB and H-back, no problem except for reaching for those picks because of wasting rounds 1 and 4 on a mediocre QB who looks like Kizer several years before needed!

Possibly the best way to rebuild a team is to do what the Dolphins did this year. A 1 year rebuild. Sell off assets, high draft pick QB Tau, ( 5 first & 2nd round picks) and we will see the results of the two systems 2- 3 yrs from now when Love is playing without WRs and Tau is in his 2nd or 3 rd year with what should be a strong team.

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April 30, 2020 at 06:36 pm

Disappointed again in Farve. Sounds like he wants to be relevant again or is tired of riding his tractor. I respected Brett as a player and forgave him for his antics after leaving, especially going to the Viqueens. Hey, he has every right to voice his opinion. But he had to know this would get lots of press and be controversial. He knew this would be throwing red meat to media jerks like Colin Cowherd and Skip Baseless( yep, I know what his real last name is), etc. Brett wanted to be accepted again by the Packer fans and organization. Don't think this will help much. It's all click- bate anyhow and it will work out the way it will work out. Go Pack Go!

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