Extra Cheese: Nothing wrong with long term thinking at 30

Aaron chats with Packers fans about all things Green and Gold and says there's nothing wrong with taking a QB at 30.

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GLM's picture

April 14, 2020 at 08:15 pm

Hurts is definitely tempting there, but I would prefer the team would use him as leverage for a trade down.

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hobowilly's picture

April 14, 2020 at 08:29 pm

hi Nags: re QB selection. IMHO, my gut tells me it's gonna be FIU's Morgan for a number of reasons. First, no it's not because he's a local boy, nor Grossi did his typical entertaining put on him-he just looks like a fit and a sleeper that can be had downstream. Just hoping GB doesn't reach for him if they have him within their top 100 players...would be fine @ 94 if they don't end up trading their 3rd rounder away; @ 136 he'd be a good value! He has the physical tools to be effective in the role of backup and "would be a great developmental quarterback with the right coaching" to repeat what Rob Reger wrote of him.
Another Wisconsinite from Iowa, Mr. Stanley may be a surprise pick and who knows, perhaps he might become a Stan Lee superhero! GB loves hawkeyes and their mental toughness!

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hobowilly's picture

April 14, 2020 at 08:37 pm

P.s. What's with pigskin Paul with only 6 QBs in his top 100? I think he's severly undervaluing this critical position in their transaction into the NFL. While i wouldn't foot stomp this years QB class, it appears like 2 or 3 might play their inaugural season, but going from college to the NFL is still a big step. Nothing is a certainty except the typical hype that incoming QBs now tend to be presented and why not?!

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Leatherhead's picture

April 14, 2020 at 09:21 pm

I think the plan is to win with Rodgers. The plan isn’t to transition, it’s to put a team and a coach and style of play together that maximizes our chance now, and next season. After that, Gutekunst will only have one year remaining and we could release Rodgers and improve our cap by a bunch.

We have passed on other very good QBs and I think we will this year, too. The decision has been made that our best shot is to put all our QB chips on Rodgers.

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Lphill's picture

April 15, 2020 at 05:51 am

Big mistake wasting a pick on a QB especially at 30 , doing so is not going to help this team win now, take a page from the Patriots on how to win today, surround your HOF QB with talent today not tomorrow to win today even if their on the team for one season , everyone is expendable. Seems to work ok for the Pats.

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April 15, 2020 at 09:35 am

I totally agree on Lazard being our #2 WR opposite Adams.The guy can catch the ball and he punishes defenders who try to cover him. I love his attitude and his abilities on the field. He is also building a relationship with Rodgers, which is key for him to become our #2 WR. Adams and Lazard is a tough pair to beat. I still think we draft a WR though. Depth, baby and competition for Valdes Scantling, St. Brown and even Kumerow.

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Lphill's picture

April 15, 2020 at 09:47 am

Don’t forget Beagleton from Canada the Packers signed he may be a pleasant surprise for the receiving Corp.

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SugarCain's picture

April 15, 2020 at 09:34 am

No way should the Pack use pick 30 for a QB unless Tua falls...they wasted pick 12 last yr on a rotational DE! You got to pick a game changer in round 1..always!

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

April 15, 2020 at 03:11 pm

Kenny Clark was not a "game-changer" as a rookie. Like Rashaan Gary, he was very young coming out of college and needed to grow into the position. Clark only started 2 games, had zero sacks and 21 tackles as a rookie, and then proceeded to grow into a top 5 DT. Rashaan Gary had 2 sacks and 21 tackles playing only 24% of the defensive snaps as a rookie. Gary actually had a really productive year for the amount of snaps he played. After watching Clay Matthews and Nick Perry hurt year after year, I was thrilled they got a blue-chip pass rusher to back up the Smith Bros. No way we can count on them staying healthy the length of their contracts, and getting an affordable, athletic replacement with time to learn the position was a great move to keep the defense strong. A lot of the rookie edge players with flashy stats played about twice the number of snaps Gary did, so there's no telling what he might do or could have done with more playing time. As he grows into the position this gives Pettine the opportunity to have all 3 of them on the field at the same time. And with Facrkrell gone, Gary will have plenty more opportunities to be a "game-changer." You might want to look at old draft's first rounds if you think being picked at 12 must be a "game-changer." Ha!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 16, 2020 at 04:33 am

Gary was the 12th pick whereas Clark was the 27th. That make Clark a tier 4 player for me. Gary was tier 2.

Kenny Clark got a 67.3 grade as a rookie from PFF. He was above average.
Rashaan Gary got a 54.1 grade as a rookie. He was less than average.

2010: Ryan Matthews - good RB. Hernia affected him, Neck inj ended him.
2011: Christian Ponder - bust. He was a reach. Next QB was Dalton at 35.
2012: Fletcher Cox - Stud. Good as a rookie, stud thereafter.
2013: DJ Hayden - disappointment.
2014: Odell Beckam - crazy but he's a stud. 1305 yds as a rookie.
2015: Danny Shelton - a good player even as a rookie. NT so no stats.
2016: Sheldon Rankins - bad as a rookie. Okay to good since then.
2017: DeShaun Watson - stud as a rookie but gets hurt.
2018: Vita Vea: stud. Pretty darn good as a rookie. NT
2019: Rashaan Gary: meh as a rookie. No coverage ability, little pass rush, good against the run.

Picking 12th is a mixed bag. Gary has time to prove himself. Really the problem I have with him is that I preferred Lawrence, Burns, Simmons, Sweat by a lot and also Wilkins. Had GB taken Lawrence, Simmons or Wilkins, GB fans wouldn't be thinking of taking a DL high, and Gute might not have extended Lowry. I didn't expect both Smiths to pan out, so taking an OLB was fine with me, but not a conversion project. Hoping for the best. Gary has time.

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