Extra Cheese: Good squad? I'm thinking Super Bowl.

Aaron chats with Packers fans worldwide after the team's 2021 draft.

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Lphill's picture

May 02, 2021 at 10:20 am

So now reports on nfl network that Gutenkust does not ask for any input from coaches on draft picks or needs.

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stockholder's picture

May 02, 2021 at 10:30 am

I believe that. If anyone mocked this draft before it actually happened. Any packer fan would have said burn it.

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Lphill's picture

May 02, 2021 at 10:30 am

Wikipedia says Gutenkust was released by the Packers ?

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dobber's picture

May 02, 2021 at 10:34 am

Watch meaningful news outlets.

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marpag1's picture

May 02, 2021 at 10:49 am

Wikipedia gets hacked or has gag edits about 8 million times per day.

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Houndog's picture

May 02, 2021 at 11:40 am

Wikipedia is famous for their inaccurate reporting as they get hacked quite often, or maybe just don't care.
But I gotta say, this time I'd love for them to be right, he should have been fired following the 2020 draft.

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marpag1's picture

May 02, 2021 at 10:46 am

I actually feel kinda sorry for Jordan Love. I mean, dude's gotta be sitting in his man cave wondering, "Damn, what did I do to deserve all this??"

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TarynsEyes's picture

May 02, 2021 at 01:17 pm

Why does he deserve sympathy?
Why would he think he did something?
Does he really believe this about him on a personal level?
Can he not see this about Rodgers and the FO and many decisions?
Has he begun to build a false ego from this mess?

I have no reason to feel any level of 'sorry' for Love.

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wildbill's picture

May 02, 2021 at 01:53 pm

Let’s see...makes millions of dollars, plays on the best NFL team in history, and doesn’t get hit. Yea life is so tough for him

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nstewart1's picture

May 02, 2021 at 10:58 am

The whole "heads up" complaint seems like BS to me - if it wasn't that it would be something else.

In fact, I seem to remember some mention from the GM that they could pick a QB before the draft.

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TarynsEyes's picture

May 02, 2021 at 11:20 am

Nagler thinking SB while MLF recently said he doesn't care about SB's.

“I’d like to keep every conversation that Aaron and I have had up to this point between us,” LaFleur said. “I know the report’s out there. But this guy’s our quarterback, man. He’s our leader of our team. I want nothing more than to see him back in a Packer uniform. In my eyes, he’s the greatest to ever do it. I don’t care about Super Bowls or whatnot. But we want him back here.” MLF

Sounds like what some of us readily accept about the FO, 'Winning is all that matters, being the 'WINNER", is not the goal. This also confirms, if only in sentiment, what Rodgers is upset about, not doing what is needed to be the WINNER, whether the Love selection, defense, or a true number two WR.

The argument will be the back-to-back 13-3 seasons, but it falls meaningless when you understand that only one TEAM stands in the victory boat, and all others are the rowers. The Packers simply sit in the 2nd row of oarsmen, but rowers nonetheless. MLF sounds like he's perfectly fine holding the bullhorn for his rowers chanting, 'We may not be the WINNER, but we're winning the seat for the second row of oarsmen'.

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marpag1's picture

May 02, 2021 at 11:59 am

"I do not think that word means what you think it means."

MLF is saying, "I know some people will say Brady is the best QB ever because of his Super Bowl rings. I don't care what they say. I still believe Rodgers is the best ever."

It's absurd to suggest that this is an admission from MLF that he is not committed to winning Super Bowls.

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TarynsEyes's picture

May 02, 2021 at 12:04 pm

So, you take it as being OK that saying he's the best should be enough for fans and accept that the SB is of no bearing. If so, then why is the TITLETOWN mantra even being recognized as that which separates GB from others? Shouldn't the mantra be, we had/have the Best and Titles mean nothing, which comes back to MLF and the FO not caring about SBs.

My point is that under no circumstance should those words come from the mouth of any HC or FO person.

Do you think Brady gives a shit whether Rodgers is deemed a better QB, NO, because he has WON 7 of Ten trips to that glorious FINAL game, while Rodgers sits at one? That makes Brady the WINNER and the BEST QB to play the game and will be enshrined as the greatest HOF'er ever.

You can sit back and believe how much better Rodgers was than Brady all for and as long as you wish, but Rodgers' residence will always be with the one-and-done QB's and below ELI in the WINNER category, and where he'll remain while in GB.

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PearlyBakerBest's picture

May 02, 2021 at 12:29 pm

Or maybe it’s just MLF saying whatever needs to be said to get him to come back.

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marpag1's picture

May 02, 2021 at 12:45 pm

No one with half a football brain thinks that Terry Bradshaw is tied with Joe Montana as the second best quarterback ever, or that only four QBs in history were better than Eli Manning, or that Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco and Brad Johnson are among the 35 best QBs in NFL history. That's just stupid, but I guess you can believe it if you want to.

Matt LaFleur believes that Aaron Rodgers is best QB to play the game. You are free to disagree with him. But in no conceivable way, shape or form do MLF's words suggest or imply that MLF doesn't care about winning Super Bowls. They just don't.

Beyond that, I'm not going to argue against your wacky lack of logic.

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May 02, 2021 at 01:28 pm

You continue to be unable to separate talent from being a WINNER. Brady plays to be a winner with every fiber of his talent. Rodgers plays to be the most notable player first and foremost, and his talent, which has been lacking in many of the playoffs and NFCCG's verifies this thinking.

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marpag1's picture

May 02, 2021 at 01:34 pm

Did Matt LaFleur say that Aaron Rodgers has won as many Super Bowls as Brady? Or are you the one who is constantly confusing talent with winning?

Your brain is broken. Have a cookie. It will be OK.

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May 02, 2021 at 02:06 pm

MLF essentially said SB wins don't matter as long as you have a QB with more talent.

You can have all the talent, but if you're missing the character needed to be a WINNER, you won't be the WINNER. Apparently, this team is missing that part, and when you dismiss winning the SB as being relevant, well, the results speak to it. Don't worry, the oarsmen seat is reserved again this season.

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marpag1's picture

May 02, 2021 at 02:17 pm

"MLF essentially said SB wins don't matter as long as you have a QB with more talent."

No, he didn't.

You don't read well.

LOL.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 02, 2021 at 08:41 pm

What do Flacco, Dilfer, and Brad Johnson have in common with Favre and Rodgers.?

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marpag1's picture

May 03, 2021 at 12:49 am

Oooh, wait! I know this one!

If Leatherhead were starting his theoretical team, he would feel totally comfortable grabbing Brad Johnson instead of Aaron Rodgers, because Johnson is just as good an option. I mean after all, Johnson won as many Super Bowls as any of those others.

What's that? It wouldn't even occur to you that you should take Johnson? Cuz you would have to be crazy?

Right.

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May 02, 2021 at 09:08 pm

Bradshaw was a number one pick so he gets the nod over Montana. (eye roll)

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LayingTheLawe's picture

May 02, 2021 at 03:09 pm

When a coach says I don't care about super bowls it's true. Because all a coach cares about is this week's game. Next week's game is not until next week.

In general, though this whole QB is a winner if his team wins and a loser if it doesn't, is just silly bunk made up for the internet to argue about. A team wins or loses. Eli Manning won two super bowls because the Giants defense held the Patriots to under 20 points both times. SO Eli Manning is a better QB because his defenses were so good? That's just, sIlly internet crap. Is Jim kelly a better QB if his field goal kicker can kick it straight? Terry Bradshaw is a WINNER because a batted ball was plucked out of the air and taken for an improbable TD? I could make a few thousand examples to show that the difference between winning and losing is usually some tiny moment. I know it won't change your mind on anything I just differ in what I watch sports for than you. If the only thing I cared about is a title, I would have given up watching sports long ago. I frankly cannot figure out what motivates you to put yourself through the torture your comments appear to indicate watching the Packers remains for you.

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

May 02, 2021 at 10:04 pm

You really laid down the law this time. Spot on.

I completely fail to understand these "fans" who think that nothing except the SB matters. In that case, they should not be watching any regular season games or playoff games... just tune in for the Super Bowl, and that too only if their team is playing. Saves them a lot of time. Keeps their blood pressure under control. Protects their kidney/liver...

Better still, don't watch the beginning of the SB game. Ask someone to call them (or maybe bonking these boneheads would be better) in the last few seconds only if their team is leading by 2 scores (to ensure that the game would not suddenly turn around).

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Thegravedigger's picture

May 02, 2021 at 11:56 pm

Why are you nitpicking lafleur now? I think i know. Because you are the skip bayless of chat rooms. Your very smart i will definitely give you that. And i agree with you occasionally about the green n gold colored glasses. But i honestly think you are just trying to be chtvs hot take troll n get everyone fired up with the lafleur doesnt want to win a sb shit. Because its easy. Just want you to know. I see you. Skip just got millions. How do you get paid? Collecting the tears of packer fans? Pay the troll toll fanssss taryn has come with her horseshit again

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4zone's picture

May 02, 2021 at 11:57 am

Packers are always one play away from no AR. Now, for the first time in how long? they have someone with enough talent to fill in if he goes down. AR would rather have his team fail if he goes down just to show how important he is. Sickness.

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Bear's picture

May 02, 2021 at 06:14 pm

Taryn, enjoy your viewpoints but I’m not sure you sometimes don’t take things out of context or search for what really was stated.

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egbertsouse's picture

May 02, 2021 at 11:35 am

Thinking Super Bowl? With Love as QB? Now that’s optimism! Oh yeah, I forgot. CHTV is refusing to acknowledge reality this weekend. Hey, even the hacks at Packers.com have written a piece on the AR/Gute rift.

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Houndog's picture

May 02, 2021 at 11:48 am

egbertsouse,
Optimism, LOL, no!
To think they'd even make the playoffs with Love would be pure fantasy and absolute proof that God has a (really twisted) sense of humor!
The Superbowl itself is a fantasy as long as Gutekunst is with the organization, he proved it with his 2020 draft and then again this off-season. So much for "team chemistry", which is supposed to include management.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 02, 2021 at 08:36 pm

Has there ever been a QB who sat his rookie year and then started his second season and played great?

Brady. Mahomes. Favre. I’m sure there’s more.

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

May 02, 2021 at 10:06 pm

We know of one who sat more than a year and is currently doing great :)

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Thegravedigger's picture

May 02, 2021 at 11:38 pm

Love didnt even dress. He barely practiced due to covid. No otas. Hes not ready. Not saying he wont be good. Just not in 2021. Which will be disapointing. Cus its a sb roster.

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Houndog's picture

May 02, 2021 at 12:22 pm

Anyone else feeling like the wind is out of our sails? What a mess, from the frying pan into the fire, from dumb to dumber, a means to an end, and I can't think of any more cliches right now.
The Three Stooges, Murphy, Gurtekunst, and Ball, are destroying this team, I said it when power grabber Murphy restructured the system and I'll say it again, he thinks real estate will cement his Packers legacy, I think not.
Gutekunst is an idiot, a Ted Thompson a$$ kisser, in the same mold, he was trained by Thompson and it shows. He could build a 50 room mansion in one of Ron Wolf's shoes with room for 3 football fields to spare and still not fill it. He proved it a year ago with the most stupid draft in Packers' history since the Tony Mandarich fiasco, but even then, Mandarich was coveted by other teams, Love was a 3rd rounder.
And then Ball, pfft, the let's give contracts to Lowery and King and then mess with Aaron Rodgers guy, yeah that guy, that Ball, the so-called contract guru!
But hey, they all report to Murphy, so let's put the fault where it lies, at the top, the real estate mogul, the guy too busy riding around in a motor home, singin' Kumbayah with his pals and ignoring the fact the The Green Bay Packers are a football organization.
Fire them all and get a real football guy back running the organization.

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LayingTheLawe's picture

May 02, 2021 at 03:11 pm

The team was 13 - 3 and in the championship game. I think you are a bit premature on the fire them all nonsense.

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stockholder's picture

May 02, 2021 at 03:25 pm

They won't fire anybody. Life goes on. Win or Lose, it doesn't matter to people who have money. Murphy, Gute, and Ball are all to rich to care.

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marpag1's picture

May 02, 2021 at 05:00 pm

Rodgers has more money than all of them put together. So win or lose doesn't matter to Rodgers?

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May 02, 2021 at 09:46 pm

Love was actually projected to go in the first round, but your take has merit and love the passion.

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Thegravedigger's picture

May 02, 2021 at 11:44 pm

The wind is completely out of our sales. And too bad. Cus last year was awesome til the end. A lot of rodgers hate out here. But not from me. Gute tried to replace him. But this is just as much rodgers team as gutes. In my eyes. And definitely in 12s eyes. So i guess hes tryibg to replace gute instead...

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mbpacker's picture

May 02, 2021 at 01:07 pm

Thanks for the extra cheese Nags! Swiss is my fav.

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croatpackfan's picture

May 02, 2021 at 01:20 pm

Do any of you think about another trade. That trade would put AR in deep thinking. Because, he will know that he will fall from horse to donkey.

I say only avceptable trade for Packers is with Texans. AR for Deshaun Watson and 1st pick 2022 draft.

It will give some time to evaluate JL and see what they have and will give them opportunity to have excellent (not the besr maybe, but still) talent at QB.

I still prefere AR, but if he will be stubborn, itnis better to show the respect tomother players in the locker room than trying to satisfx Diva...

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May 02, 2021 at 02:11 pm

"I say only acceptable trade for Packers is with Texans. AR for Deshaun Watson and 1st pick 2022 draft."

You should work for the FO with that mindset.
Are you off the Love is the future bandwagon?
You would take Watsons' contract which will put GB in cap hell for even longer, and it states Love was a huge mistake and a reason they lost Rodgers?

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Todd's picture

May 03, 2021 at 07:27 am

But will Watson play anytime soon considering he’s embroiled in a sexual assault lawsuit with 20+ women?

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Duneslick's picture

May 02, 2021 at 03:06 pm

Admin block

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croatpackfan's picture

May 02, 2021 at 04:16 pm

No, I'm not on nor off the JL wagon. I accept we do not know how good or bad is Jordan Love. He may be bust, or he may be future HOF or anything in between.

I do not want to trade AR, but you have lot of excellent player on the Packers roster. How it would be if DA, AJ, DB, KC, etc start the same tactic? It is unprofessional and humiliating from AR, especially towards other players.

And, as I remember, Aaron also needed some time and hard coaching to became that good plaxer he is now. He was not good first seasons... He need to consider that, too

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Thegravedigger's picture

May 03, 2021 at 12:00 am

Heres what you should do. ------- go get aaron rodgers julio jones. Like uncle eddy in christmas vacation.

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Lare's picture

May 02, 2021 at 01:49 pm

Mark Murphy said they've been dealing with this Rodgers situation "for several months". If that's the case, don't you think they would have considered re-signing Tim Boyle?

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May 02, 2021 at 03:16 pm

Yeah, good question Lare!
However, if it's true, they just can't seem to get it done, and they don't know what to do next, I've got some advice for Murphy:
Resign, it works for me!

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May 02, 2021 at 03:13 pm

The NFL ratings just improved. I don't think Rodgers wants to come back. Or play for anyone else. Gute got what he wanted. Be happy. You've turned Rodgers into Favre. Leave him alone. The train has left the station. I Thank him. Let him get out with dignity.

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May 02, 2021 at 03:20 pm

stockholder,
C'mon man? "Gute got what he wanted. Be happy"?
Happy with what, a wasted first round pick that can't make the active roster for a single game?
I've read a lot of your posts over the years, and I'm hoping you're kidding.

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May 02, 2021 at 03:45 pm

Their all to rich to care about what happens. Truthfully . I'd like to have Rodgers Back! And have him go out like Driver. Not like Raji. But if nobody cares what Gute does. And Think he's right No matter what. Then Rodgers should be allowed to move on.

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May 02, 2021 at 03:50 pm

If the Packers had an owner driven to win Rodgers would have several more Lombardi's , any NFL owner if they had Rodgers would surround him with talent on both sides of the ball every season, not draft developmental players or wait for others to pan out, 2 super bowl wins from Favre and Rodgers is nothing to brag about.

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

May 02, 2021 at 10:11 pm

Yeah, if only Packers had a single owner, they would have won several more SBs, just like the 31 other NFL teams who have single owners.

Wait....

Sorry... errr

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May 02, 2021 at 03:54 pm

There is not a shot that AR will not play and give back 20+ million to the Packers. That boy has some huge ego but I'm sure he's not
that dumb.

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May 02, 2021 at 04:34 pm

Barry Sanders? Remember Him. If your not in it to win it. Why play it? You like Gute' PR Lies.? You can have them. Yea Think of the money. Not #12.

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May 02, 2021 at 06:35 pm

Stockholder. Barry Sanders didn't have to return 20+ million in bonus money like Rodgers will. No way does he write that check. Not now not ever. You think you would ?

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May 02, 2021 at 08:37 pm

Barry Sanders was in a legal fight to return bonus money. He lost. That was like 20 mil back then. I do expect Rodgers to show up. And retire before the start of the season.

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PackMann's picture

May 02, 2021 at 09:58 pm

Following the Packers draft strategy last year, it's probably a good thing that the Packers got their QB when the getting was good because this year's draft featured quite the QB food fight! And rumor has it, nobody stands out in next year's class. I think it was good move to draft a QB last year based upon the previous couple of years (and AR is no spring chicken anymore). Now look at the mess we made! Just trying to do the right thing for the Packer organization!

I really liked this draft and I really like our chances of winning the SB, especially when you add in our other weapons (Funchess, Deguara, Sternberger) who will be returning! Of course, this means AR returns and leads the Pack to glory! I believe that the Packers drafted with confidence that AR will be back.

Should he leave, buckle up, things could get real ugly for the Pack! I hope that there will be a veteran QB in the trade because JL is probably traumatized by this whole situation! He could most certainly benefit by sitting another year. AR might not be one of the best ever had he not sat and learned for three years.

Go Pack!

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May 02, 2021 at 10:17 pm

Perhaps Love is not unhappy... perhaps Love is seeing a chance for him this year?

The great AR12 started off on the losing foot (season). He didn't magically become the MVP when Favre left. No, it takes work, it takes time.

Learning under one of the greatest is great... but if you don't even suit up on game day, maybe not so great.

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

May 02, 2021 at 10:18 pm

By the way Aaron Nagler, you rock!

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BuckyBadger's picture

May 02, 2021 at 10:24 pm

CHTV just trying to replace packers.com for their PR and cheerleading squad? Super Bowl squad? Team hasn't done much to improve over last year and a rookie class won't be putting them over the top. This off season is going to get worse before it gets better. Gute made a mess of this team. To say Rodgers will play one more year is looking far fetch. He has just told the Packers this will be happening on his timeline, not theirs.

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Difer's picture

May 02, 2021 at 11:40 pm

In 2019 the 13-3 Packers were destroyed twice by a SF team that was superior to GB in every aspect except QB. Ditto in 2020, this time against TB. With Rodgers at QB, the Packers are a strong playoff contender but in no way a Super Bowl contender. Without Rodgers, they are a weak division contender. No reason not to be happy with a playoff contender as a fan, but to keep trumpeting that GB is headed to the Super Bowl given the front office performance in player acquisition year in and year out is fantasy.

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May 03, 2021 at 08:06 am

Fire the management now! Green Bay's board needs to huddle up and get rid of these ASS CLOWNS! Gutekunst and Murphy are a dime a dozen! Two back to back generational QB'S in the last 30 years and 2 championships to show for it. A f---ing 30 second conversation before the draft last year with Rodger's and you wouldn't be sitting in your own mess GUTE! Last 9 years one offensive player taken in the first round and that pick was Love! It won't be the Frozen Tundra anymore. More like Nuclear Winter in Green Bay!

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May 04, 2021 at 02:05 pm

Count me in the Super Bowl camp this year, as long as the Packers make a monster trade. PLEASE.

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