Don’t Read Too Much Into Jordan Love’s Performance at OTAs

With Aaron Rodgers holding out, the focus has turned to second-year quarterback Jordan Love’s performance at mandatory OTAs.

Members of the media speculate that any poor performance by Love gives Rodgers more leverage against the Packers while if Love performs well, the speculation is that it benefits the Packers organization because it shows they can get by without the reigning NFL MVP under center.

All this talk is extremely overblown and premature. Take the Rodgers situation out of the equation and we’re back to the bottom line: you can’t tell a lot about a quarterback from drills that are run without contact or even pads in the early part of June.

Sure, getting these reps is good for Love. He has a lot of catching up to do because of the crazy Covid-19 altered 2020 season. Love did not take a snap in a live game as a rookie, not even in a preseason game. He was inactive for all 16 regular season games and both postseason contests.

So, this year, Rodgers’ absence will benefit Love initially. He will get more reps in OTAs than he would have if Rodgers were here and that’s a good thing. But OTAs are not the same as playing in a game. There is no contact, the quarterback cannot be sacked during OTAs and everything is not being done at full speed.

When it comes to football, you can study the playbook for years but until he’s actually out there on the field during a real game, there is no way to know how good or how shaky Love really is right now.

That is not to say these drills are useless. They can help Love learn his progressions and his reads to a point, but not at full speed and under real game conditions. We can see how he makes adjustments; how strong his arm is and how Love acts as a leader in the huddle during those drills.

During the first two days of these mandatory OTAs, observers have described Love’s performance as mixed. On Tuesday, he struggled a bit with his accuracy and the speculation was how good that was for Rodgers. On Wednesday, Love looked better and members of the coaching staff and media were quick to observe it.

But it’s all overreaction Until Love gets some game action, it is impossible to truly judge how good or how ready Love is right now.

And like any young, inexperienced but talented football player, he is likely to be inconsistent. On some plays, he will show his athletic ability and things will click for him and on others, he will struggle with his reads or his execution. It is ultimately a learning process. The key is to see progress being made.

Head coach Matt LaFleur summed it up this week when he was asked about Love. “I think with any young player, whether it’s a quarterback or another position, there are going to be some tough times, and you have to be resilient. You have to persevere through these tough times, and I think a lot of times, just people in general will learn more from their mistakes than their successes.”

Love was pleased with his performance on Wednesday. “I definitely feel it was a good day for me and for everybody else as well,” he said. “Just bouncing back from yesterday’s practice, it wasn’t the best practice on offense all around and for me as well. Being able to come out here and just bounce back today, it meant a lot for everybody and just showed how much we were able to bounce back…The goal is to keep stacking good days and be better tomorrow.”

That’s what the Packers are hoping for from Jordan Love during OTAs. They need to see he is learning and growing into the position. They need to see him correct his mistakes and they need him to be better at the end of OTAs than he was at the beginning of them.

Love still has a long way to go before he’s ready to start a real NFL game. But he needs to take advantage of these extra reps and take some more steps down that road. Reading much more than that into his performance at OTAs is just overdoing it.

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Leatherhead's picture

June 10, 2021 at 12:16 pm

Love will have dozens of practices, to go with all of last year’s practices, by his first exhibition. Then he’ll have two more exhibitions and another dozen practices. With him as the starter.

I bet this guy will be ready to run the offense by the time we play New Orleans. Let me get on record as predicting 30+ points in the opener.

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GilMartin's picture

June 10, 2021 at 12:18 pm

If Love has to start, I can only hope you're right, Leatherhead. It certainly won't be a dull training camp/preseason. Thanks for the comment.

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 01:10 pm

LOVE it!!!

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Duneslick's picture

June 10, 2021 at 01:44 pm

Hilarious

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

June 10, 2021 at 01:57 pm

Leatherhead,
You nailed it!

Barring injury Love will be more than ready to start the season sans Rodger's. The guy has lots of college experience and success. As you mentioned, he had all of last year and all of this year to get ready for the season. He will definitely be ready to go. While there will be some painful learning lessons as we move along I personally believe he is going to shock the Packer fan base, and the NFL in general with his play. I really believe the Packers got one hell of a QB, and Gutey is going to come out looking like Ron Wolf on this one.

All these media types that keep hyping how Love isn't ready I feel confidant will be eating their words by the end of the season if Love is playing.

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June 10, 2021 at 02:23 pm

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face."

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 02:39 pm

Meaning what exactly?

You fucking get up, dust yourself off, and get back to completing the task at hand. Embrace adversity as a learning experience, FFS.

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Crankbait's picture

June 10, 2021 at 06:16 pm

Meaning that he could look "all world" in training camp but as soon as he's under live NFL fire.....

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 06:53 pm

He’s a big boy, played under fire his entire year in 2019 with no protection, and has a HC who won’t put him out there if he isn’t ready.

He’s going to take his lumps. This is the NFL. Others, along with myself, have made mention of this plenty. Do you really think you’re telling lifelong football fans, Packer fans, something they don’t already know?

Gee, I remember being so worried about Scott Hunter... do you remember when the former 6th Round pick came in to take over for the injured Bart Starr in his rookie season? I do.

Hunter went 10-4 in his 2nd year, after the legend retired as a player, winning the Black & Blue Division. 1972.

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June 10, 2021 at 07:53 pm

Let's hope that Love is better than "Iron Hands" Hunter. He was not a very impressive passer. No one was until we traded for Lynn Dickey. After him we had to wait for Favre.

In 1972 Hunter had a 44% completion ratio, threw 6 TDs and 9 picks and had a 55 QBR. He only lasted 3 seasons in Green Bay (71-73). He spent some time with the Bills, Falcons and Lions after the Packers. He was out of the league by 1979. If Love is as bad as Hunter we're screwed, division title or not. The scary thing is that we actually had a few QBs who were even worse than Hunter between 74 -92. Yikes! Thanks, Since '61

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 08:22 pm

It was a simple point, Since’61. Even that crappy Scott Hunter, a 6th Round pick, realized success at QB. At least, I know you get it.

I swear to god, some of these people want lifetime guarantees before they can get on board with the idea not everything has to be perfect in order to win in the NFL. Seriously, fans who grew up only knowing Aaron Rodgers as a QB, or who grew up with Favre, can sometimes appear to be unyielding when it comes to anything but the very best in roster positions.

Love is a 1st Round pick, and was touted to have the strongest arm of his draft class. Still not enough for some people. They can’t seem to make the connection that this player, Jordan Love, can win A LOT of ballgames with a team like this, in year 3 of LaFleur’s system for many. There’s continuity there, even for Love entering his 2nd season.

Funniest thing about Scott Hunter is only he, Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre have won a division title with the Packers since Bart Starr. That’s pretty much why I brought him up.

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Since'61's picture

June 12, 2021 at 10:49 am

Good points as usual gg, and I expect Love will be better than Scott Hunter, then again you would probably be better than Hunter. Yes, we won the division in 1972 with him but not because of him. We had Lane and Brockington and a very good defense that season. Plus Bart Starr was the OC and called the plays.

The true test for Love will begin when our opponents shut down our run game and Love is forced to throw to move the chains. The other key factor will be whether our defense can make stops and not force our offense to play from behind. If our defense can't get off the field on 3rd and/or spends too much time on the field because our offense is 3 and out it's going to be a long season.

Just a minor footnote, we did win the division with Lynn Dickey in 1982 admittedly in a strike shortened season. we even won the first round playoff game against the Cardinals before losing to the Cowboys in a shoot out in the 2nd round that year. That playoff win was the one between 1967 and 1993. Thanks, Since '61

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Leatherhead's picture

June 10, 2021 at 11:04 pm

Didn’t we win the Division in ‘72 with Hunter at QB?

Go back and watch a game from last year and tell me that Love can’t execute 90% of those plays. The handoffs, that play that always works to the TE, a WR screen, a dump off to a back…….these are all within his capabilities.

Many of the failures at QB we had during The Long Dry Spell of 74-92 were at least partially because we had bad teams. Love is taking over a real good team.

I think the conditions for a success story are right.

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greengold's picture

June 11, 2021 at 05:58 am

I agree, Leatherhead.

Good GMs get good players.

Bad GMs get bad players.

Judge Parins & Tom Braatz were awful. Those were years of complete disaster. Mike Sherman was right with those knobs.

Ron Wolf was a genius, and Bob Harlan did a masterful job in finding him and giving Wolf his big break. Just look around the NFL today at the tree of great GMs he alone fostered. Wow!

Not unlike Holmgren, Wolf’s pick to guide the team, and his coaching tree. The whole joint is littered with Super Bowl rings & Lombardi Trophies as a result of those two great leaders in their respective positions.

Niners, Raiders, Buccaneers, Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens, Eagles, Seahawks, all won rings in part from Ron Wolf’s genius.

I’m a huge John Madden fan (only played the game once). His quotes are often priceless. He was a huge Lombardi disciple:

"Ron Wolf was a one-man full-time personnel staff," Madden says, in near reverence. "And he was the one man who could be a one-man staff. I mean, Ron Wolf knew every player everywhere. Ron Wolf's mind was amazing. You could ask him, ‘Ron, there's this junior wide receiver someone told me about at Alcorn,' and he would know him. He didn't have to go through notes and read stuff. He'd say, ‘This is who he is, and this is what he does.' He truly had a photographic mind."
- Peter Richmond's book: “Badasses.”

People should be careful about throwing around this “Fire Gutey” stuff so readily. I wonder how many of those same people would like to see him take a job with the Bears or Vikes...? Brian Gutekunst is one of the most highly regarded personnel men amongst his contemporaries in the NFL.

From the outside looking in, I don’t think Ted Thompson had anything on this cat.

Wait for it. It’s coming. Another Super Bowl WIN & Lombardi Trophy is right around the corner. I happen to think we are going to run right into it making this turn.

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Coldworld's picture

June 11, 2021 at 10:05 am

If there is one take away from years of watching football is that teams ruin many quarterbacks. Certainly there are Brohms who should never have been drafted aplenty. Others who destroy themselves. But teams take and rush QBs or put them in positions where they can’t succeed just as often. Who knows how many we Chicagoed before our neighbors to the south made it a thing? Let’s not rejoin that path of desperation. If a bout of Bortles is what it takes, I will take that medicine failing Rodgers return to the fold.

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June 11, 2021 at 10:18 am

CW, I Agree!

I think teams rush QB's too quickly into the starting role and that is why I thought taking Love was a smart move. With Rodgers at the helm, he has the opportunity to learn from one of the best while the coaching staff grooms him and he gets playing time in the Pre-season. Chicago on the other hand, drafts Trubinsky with one year of College starting experience and throws him into the wolves! Was it Trubinsky's lack of talent or Chicago's bad management? I'll go with the latter. Here's to Chicago doing the same with their new shiny penny and ruin another QB's career.

I'm one who believes you must balance the present with the future when it comes to drafting, so the Packers have the right formula.

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murf7777's picture

June 11, 2021 at 08:18 am

Actually, the magic man was pretty good. Of course, our standards were pretty low at that time.

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greengold's picture

June 11, 2021 at 09:08 am

Holy crap! Lynn Dickey!!! Thanks for jogging my memory, murf777!!!

He might have won a Super Bowl with the right Head Coach.

James Lofton. John Jefferson. Gerry Ellis. Paul Coffman. Eddie Lee Ivory. Jan Stenerud. Ezra Johnson. Mike Douglass. Mark Lee. Johnny Gray. John Anderson. Tim Lewis. Estus Hood. Phil Epps.

wow.

It just goes to show how important it is to have ALL of the right people in place, from the HC down to the star players. Being a great GM is all encompassing.

Bart Starr had a .406 winning percentage and a HC.

Vince Lombardi had a .668 winning percentage as a HC.

Matt LaFleur has an astounding .813 winning percentage as a HC.

These 2021 Packers look to be well positioned to roll. Yeah, our hand is being forced with inserting Love into a starting role a year earlier than expected. I believe he has the right HC to guide him through successfully, and the right GM to help surround him with the best talent he can find given our cap constraints, and the extenuating circumstances.

I think our ultimate goal is still attainable with Matt LaFleur guiding the way. If he does so, he'll wind up being Coach of the Year, and more.

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June 11, 2021 at 09:26 am

GG, I was actually talking about Don "Majik" Majkowski who was an "all-pro" throwing for 4318 yards and leading the team to a 10-6 record in 1989. He gave the fans much to hope for. Unfortunately, the following year he tore his rotator cuff in mid-season and never was the same after that. Of course, in 1992, he was injured in a game and Favre replaced him and the rest is history.

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greengold's picture

June 11, 2021 at 09:34 am

Funny. Yeah, I knew you were talking about Majik, but you reminded me we had another great QB who didn't make it to the promised land as well...

Sorry for not being more clear.

Yeah, those Lindy Infante years were a bright spot in a very dark place in Packers history, and Majik was magic.

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murf7777's picture

June 11, 2021 at 10:10 am

No worries, probably my fault for reading too quickly:)

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jannes bjornson's picture

June 12, 2021 at 02:57 pm

'72 is what the Fans apparently long for, John Brockington (Brooklyn) and MacArthur Lane ground and pound with Hunter trying to complete a five yard pass. How did that work out against Washington in the playoff?

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Bure9620's picture

June 10, 2021 at 08:16 pm

Yes and this will be a run first offense in MLF's true vision

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Coldworld's picture

June 10, 2021 at 12:25 pm

The only thing this showed of note is that he can have highs as well as lows. That’s not a given, but it is welcome. It’s equally true that he will have plenty more lows regardless of how good he turns out to be.

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GilMartin's picture

June 10, 2021 at 12:41 pm

True, Coldworld. Most young QBs have those ups and downs. Glad we're seeing flashes of his potential. Thanks for the comment.

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jannes bjornson's picture

June 10, 2021 at 12:56 pm

OTAs are not quite up to the level of Spring Training Fan Delirium ,but close.

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 02:16 pm

Jordan Love's numbers the last time he had a good OL, RB and WR corps in a consistent system:

13 games, 267 Comp, 417 Att, 64%, 3567 Yds, 8.6 Y/A, 9.4 AY/A, 32 TD, 6 INT, 158 Rating. He also rushed for 7 TDs that year. 2018.

Just thought I'd make mention of that...

Without this being "irrational exuberance," I simply have trust in what I've learned about him as a player, and in Matt LaFleur and his staff in guiding him through this season to achieve the highest level of success possible. The Packers team, itself, is going to present an enormous challenge for anyone we face. There is experience in play here too. A system of winning that is now going into its 3rd year. I trust in the player, the staff and the team on this.

The guy can spin it too.

He's going to surprise a lot of people. The Green Bay Packers TEAM will shock the world this season.

Go Pack Go!

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VinceL's picture

June 10, 2021 at 02:35 pm

Giving Love the love. Yes! Outstanding stats! Love's going to be exactly what we need. That no-show guy can stay away. We've got a winner itching to play! Pass the G!

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 02:43 pm

I've felt this way pretty much since the day he was drafted...

Is this TarynsCrank or TarynsCrack? Guess it doesn't matter. Whatever. I'm simply sharing my thoughts. Everybody's got their own. No worries.

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Leatherhead's picture

June 10, 2021 at 03:06 pm

About 2/3 of our plays will be runs or short passes. If he can just handle that part of it then we’re competitive.

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June 12, 2021 at 03:00 pm

If he's running LaFleur's scheme the ball will be up the field on the seams and sidelines. They didn't put a One Pick on him to be a game manager. Love has all the throws in his repertoire.

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June 10, 2021 at 06:04 pm

You neglected one thing. Those numbers were not against NFL defenses preparing to play him. Not too sure about "enormous" challenge.

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 06:21 pm

No. I trusted you might be able to piece that together yourself when I shared they were from 2018. Did you not?

This entire team was assembled to win the Super Bowl this year. Take Aaron Rodgers away, replacing him with the 1st Round pick selected to replace him with anyway, just a year earlier than planned, and use that rush heavy attack we spent years assembling.

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June 10, 2021 at 12:34 pm

Actually, I am buoyed by Love's performances in the OTAs and now the mini camp. Certainly Love has showed better than Trevor Lawrence, and by all accounts, Aaron Rodgers in their first NFL camps.

In horse racing, the finish line ultimately determines a win from a loss. However a good start always helps towards a good finish.

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June 10, 2021 at 12:43 pm

A good start is always welcomed and I'm glad he bounced back with a good day yesterday. It's so early, I just don't want fans to read too much into a June practice without pads. Thanks for commenting, always good to hear from you.

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June 10, 2021 at 12:39 pm

I'm willing to give him every excuse in the book. Just show me results. Let's not drag this out. Either he's a winner, or were F**ked.

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GilMartin's picture

June 10, 2021 at 12:46 pm

It will take time to know which one it is. We shall see how Love develops. Thanks for the comment.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

June 10, 2021 at 01:59 pm

Holy Hanna Stockholder!

You da bottomline guy!!! :)

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June 10, 2021 at 12:42 pm

Hi Gil. I agree with you. Decision making in the real games are much more demanding than in preaseason games and unpadded practices are much slower than preseason games.

As I understand, those practices are very important in building muscule memory, that will help at time when the main goal will be making fast decisions what to do. And that is also important to have as much as he can good and excellent practice, because he will teach his muscule faster and more properly. Every wrong move will need more time to correct (to erase mistake and establish correct memory!).

For me that is excellent news he was able to improve quickly, because that means his muscule memory is establish correctly and mistakes from first mandatory mini camp are made under pressure to show excellence, not wrongly remembered moves.

There is no doubt that Packers will not win SB in the season with rookie QB (if that happens), but I would be happy with winning record in that season. Considering that Bears will also have the same problem, that Lions are not yet ready to be strong competitor, it leaves only Vikings as favorite for winning the division. But we knows that they have almost always self destructive tendencies in at least half of the season.

Lets see if JL can hold that level of practicing...

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June 10, 2021 at 12:44 pm

Thanks for a well thought out comment, croatpackfan. I agree this was a positive development and hopefully, his muscle memory improves as he gets more reps. Looking forward to seeing what he can do.

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 01:23 pm

Yeah croat, what's really great is there is not a whole lot Matt LaFleur, Hackett & Getsy have to "unteach" with Jordan Love. He came into this all fresh last year, and has had a full season of instruction and time to sit and watch Aaron Rodgers in an MVP winning run. That is about as fortunate as it gets for a rookie QB coming in to sponge up info on how it's done right.

I'm sure LaFleur gave him a list of stuff to work on during the offseason as well before heading out the door last January.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

June 10, 2021 at 02:02 pm

GG,
The Love situation behind Rodger's last year is akin to Gary sitting behind the two Smith's his first year. Sitting behind these types of professionals that are really killing it really teaches these young guys how they should practice, play, and inspire them to achieve similar success.

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June 10, 2021 at 01:44 pm

Some excellent points cpf. What I would add is the Bortles factor - whose best season was 10-6 with Hackett as his OC in Jacksonville. He is also 2-1 in playoffs. Because of Bortles, I don't think that Love has to start the season - giving him time to gradually assimilate into the NFL game. However with Bortles + Love - the probability is still high that the Packers will not win the SB - but not impossible - especially given the team around them.

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June 10, 2021 at 01:04 pm

Gil, great piece. I agree this is all process stuff we are seeing. Totally new situation for Jordan Love this season. It's only the beginning of what we all hope will be a long, successful journey for the Packers.

If you don't mind, I'm just going to plow today's Minicamp commentary from our Packers beat writers in here culled from their Twitter feeds live - this is all really great stuff and makes you feel like you're right there standing at the fence... I like how they offer their own perspectives on the same things that are happening. Just transcribed it in real time and credited each reporter as best I could:

Minicamp June 10th

Demo - Devin Funchess is back on the field after dropping out yesterday.

Can see why Matt LaFleur likes Joe Barry’s coaching style. Similar to LaFleur’s hands-on appriach, Barry interacted with each player after they went through the tackling drill. (Photo of Barry shaking hands with Savage.)

Matt Schneidman - Still no sign of Elgton Jenkins, Preston Smith or Dean Lowry at practice this morning as they remain in COVID protocol.

WesHod - AJ Dillon and Packers young players runing through tackling drills.
De’Vondre Campbell watching on during early ST period.

Andy Herman - Kabion Ento and Malik Taylor working as primary gunners on special teams. May not sound sexy but if you’re Kabion Ento and Malik Taylor it’s a big deal. Want to make the roster - prove your worth on teams.

Playlist at practive so far has included Nirvana, DMX, Cranberries and Master P. Do what you will with this knowledge. (Can literally feel the warmth of the sun and the smell of the grass, and hear it there with this one).

(From a photo Herman shared, Uphoff is a big dude next to Savage & Amos - Funchess even bigger, just sayin’)

Maybe it’s just me but I feel like Robert Tonyan looks a bit more svelte at minicamp. He looks like he’s in great shape and ready to take on that extended role that Matt LaFleur spoke about. (These are the kinds of observations I like most about being there in person. Scanning the field of players, looking for what stands out as being different from last year, players who are making noise with their work, or just having fun too. Camp life.)

Olivia Reiner - Packers CB Eric Stokes vs. sled at Day 3 of minicamp. (worthy)

WesHod - It was a route on air but Amari Rodgers just made a nifty one handed grab in back of end zone

Andy Herman - Amari Rodgers just had an absolutely sick one-handed catch in the back of the end zone (against air) but it got a reaction out of his teammates. Nice play from the rookie!

Bill Huber posted video of Campbell in drills. (Big dude. Right behind him? Ray Wilborn, another BIG dude. Nearly the same size as Campbell. I keep thinking of a scout talking about how the Packers look for body types. You can see the push for length in the middle of our defense with additions like Martin, WIlborn, Campbell, Uphoff, Gaines. Just wanted to note that…)

Andy Herman - Josh Jackson getting the look at starting CB. Barnes and Kamal with ones at ILB. Sullivan in the slot.

Bill Huber - First play of day, a Jones fumble.

Andy Herman - Fun pitch play to Amari Rodgers who started the play in the slot. Beat Krys Barnes around the edge.

Turner - JRJ - Myers - LP - Newman with starters on OL again.

Eric Stokes pick off Jordan Love along the sideline. Intended for MVS. The play looked completely disjointed from the snap.

Bill Huber - Love, immediate pressure by Lancaster, throws INT to Stokes

Demo - Jordan Love throws his first pick of camp: First-round pick Eric Stokes showed his speed to jump an out route by MVS and took it to the end zone. Love was flushed and might’ve been sacked if it were live.

Matt Schneidman - Eric Stokes picks off Jordan Love at the start of 11-on-11s. Would’ve been a Tyler Lancaster sack after protection breakdown, but play continues and the rookie first-round pick almost houses it.

WesHod - Some miscommunication at start of snap leads to a busted play an interception for Stokes

A lot of energy and chatter from defense. Shemar Jean Charles helping breakup pass intended for MVS

Andy Herman - Love gets another player to jump offsides in team. Something he was great at in college. Pass falls incomplete to Lazard but Love gave him a chance. LaFleur not happy with the undisciplined football on both sides.

Shemar Jean-Charles with a PBU on MVS. Huge reaction from the defense. Was a nice throw by Love and what looked like a catchable ball.

Love looks more comfortable navigating the pocket today. Rolling out, stepping up. Great to see.

Lots of false start and offsides penalties in team. Disjointed feel so far.

Bill Huber - Defense is feeling it today.

WesHod - A lot of energy and chatter from defense. Shemar Jean-Charles helping breakup pass intended for MVS

Andy Herman - Royce Newman now with the 1s at LG. So in 3 minicamp practices we’ve seen him with the 1s at LG, RG, and RT. Not bad for a 4th round rookie.

Ben Braden also getting time at RT with the ones today.

Ball on the ground on a missed exchange (toss) between Love & Dexter Williams.

Love with a nice touchdown throw in the back of the end zone to Winfree in red zone drills.

Bill Huber - Love with a bullet to Winfree (not M Taylor) for a TD. Too much velocity for the DB.

Andy Herman - Nice PBU by Stanford Samuels in red zone. May have had a chance at a pick but nice play either way.

WesHod - Stanford Samuels with a breakup in red zone

Andy Herman - Love to Tonyan in red zone. As should come to no surprise after last season, the play design had Tonyan wide open in the end zone.

Matt Schneidman - If Tuesday was bad from Jordan Love and yesterday was great, today was in the middle. This has been your Jordan Love update for the day. Everyone enjoy your weekend.

Andy Herman - Notes from today’s practice:

Disjointed - lots of fumbles/penalties
Stokes looked great, including an INT
Love looked more comfortable in pocket
Winfree continues to make plays
Newman at LG w/ 1’s
Braden gets time at RT
Shemar Jean Charles = pbu king
Mostly nondescript practice

Field Yates - The Packers announce that Lambeau Field will allow fans at full capacity this season plus events this summer, including training camp.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

June 10, 2021 at 02:09 pm

GG,
Great post! Thanks for compiling and sharing with everyone. Can't believe the joke who gave you a thumbs down. Thanks again!

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Coldworld's picture

June 10, 2021 at 02:20 pm

Thanks GG, appreciate having this pulled together. Is Winfree laying claim to be the guy with the face on the train to open camp?

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 02:25 pm

HA!!! No shit!!!

I was meaning to mention something about Winfree, and I have yet to have the time to look anything up on him! THAT cracks me up!!!

Two days in a row now that he's raised the entire Packers beat reporter contingent's eyebrows...

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nostradanus's picture

June 10, 2021 at 02:22 pm

Nice GG! Thanks for that info! Great stuff!

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 02:34 pm

You bet, nostradanus! I love all the OTAs, minicamps and TC... preseason games. I'm a personnel junkie.

Kind of funny, but, I've been that way my whole life. Not just Packers either. I do the same with the Bucks and Brewers too. I've met Craig Counsell a number of times and talked with him about the team, and his Diamondback days. He lives pretty close to where my wife & I do. Met coach Bud for the first time about a month ago. John Hammond used to come into my painting studio in the mornings before shoot arounds with a cup of coffee and we'd talk Bucks. Talked about Giannis in his draft process. He introduced me to Jon McGlocklin. Invited me to some of the practices at the Cousins Center. Really fun stuff.

Never met Gutekunst, but I did meet Ted Thompson and we talked about one of his drafts for a bit, shared some letters back and forth. He was a great, gentle giant.

Anyhow, there is a magic to being there at camp watching the players work through drills. Seeing the new and old faces. There is a lot of hope there. Pretty cool.

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Since'61's picture

June 10, 2021 at 04:38 pm

Good job gg, thanks for doing this. Since ‘61

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CheesyTex's picture

June 10, 2021 at 04:40 pm

Thanks again, greengold. I hope you will continue your commentaries -- for me in Texas,
they are a vicarious visit back to where I'd like to be and what I'd like to be doing.

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Coldworld's picture

June 11, 2021 at 10:11 am

What I do not understand is why his summary got 6 (currently) down votes?

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CheesyTex's picture

June 11, 2021 at 10:55 am

Ditto.

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 01:35 pm

Listening to post minicamp practice interviews with Rashan Gary... MAN, that dude is a scream! He's funny. Seriously dedicated too. Wilde asked him his thoughts on Jordan Love, and he said he's got all the confidence in the world in him. Said he's doing what he needs to to be ready.

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nostradanus's picture

June 10, 2021 at 02:35 pm

RG is one cool cat man

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nostradanus's picture

June 10, 2021 at 08:27 pm

True dat Gil!
However After the taxing and draining month or so of Rodgers news And how the national media has spun this that the Packers are a poorly run organization and will collapse if Rodgers leaves. It is good to see and hear from Jordan love finally and have a bit of hope for the future of this team and the franchise. Love seems like a well spoken and smart kid and has Loads talent also! Can’t wait for training camp to start it should be very interesting....

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 08:41 pm

Yeah, nostradanus, in spite of our worst fears that we’re stirred on draft day, there looks to be some light there at the end of the tunnel. It’s why they play the games... You’re not kidding about the talent.

Not sure about you, but I’ve spent pretty much this entire time since the Packers took Eric Stokes at #29, not really caring where Kevin King plays this season. Sometimes wondering, “where the hell are they going to play him?” Crazy.

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Packers0808's picture

June 10, 2021 at 03:54 pm

Rodgers playing hide and seek in Hawaii with his 3 grand children is probably a real blessing in disguise for the Packers! Love is getting more than needed snaps for improvement as Rodgers is fixing his new found man bun just so to please his self ego!

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nostradanus's picture

June 10, 2021 at 08:32 pm

playin hide the weenie is more like it.....haha

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 08:47 pm

That’s a great insight...

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Since'61's picture

June 10, 2021 at 04:28 pm

I never put too much stock into any player’s performance during OTAs or during preseason games.

When the games count that’s the time to evaluate a player. The rest is about hype, fantasy and propaganda.
Thanks, Since ‘61

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greengold's picture

June 10, 2021 at 04:48 pm

I think there are steps towards growth, or lack thereof, that can be seen in players. With this one, Jordan Love? Couldn't be more high profile. Measured responses to what is taking place is definitely best, but you've got to appreciate the successes along with the failures in watching players develop.

Process. The Packers 2021 team is just starting that now.

Was Eric Stokes' INT today propaganda? No. It's just something that occurred in OTAs, shorts, no pads, getting very early reps in.

4-6 games into the season is when we'll start to get a real understanding of what we do or don't have. Doesn't mean fans can't be happy or disappointed following along in the players' development, through the process.

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June 10, 2021 at 08:31 pm

Since 61
Not looking for true evaluations right now........just hope.
Doesn't hurt to get a little excited about your 1st Rd QB that has been basically kept under wraps for a year.

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