Does Rodgers Really Need to Take More Chances?

If the NFL was actually serious about concussions, they would intervene and prevent Mike McCarthy and Tom Clements from banging their heads against the wall for four hours every Sunday this season in hopes that the offense will figure things out by doing the same thing over and over again. Last Sunday's game in Denver was an embarrassment for the Green Bay Packers on offense and defense, especially on offense.

A lot of criticism has been put on Aaron Rodgers and the Packers' offense for how they performed. I have seen a lot of people suggesting that Rodgers needs to give up looking and waiting for the open receiver and instead take some risks and put his touchdown to interception ratio aside for the good of the team. The basic suggestion is to be a little more like Favre and use his great arm to try and fit the football into any area it will fit if he has to, even if there are more than one defender in the area. At the very least, throw the receivers open if they are covered.

I don't disagree with the sentiment that Rodgers should try to throw receivers open if they are single covered and there is no one else open, but that's a lot easier said than done - for a couple reasons.

In order for Rodgers to go through his reads to find an open receiver, he needs to skip over the ones that are covered, even just single covered. By the time he gets through his reads, a lot of the shorter routes that are easier to throw your receiver open with, are done and the receiver has broken it off to accommodate the quarterback who is about to leave the pocket. It is at this point that I believe Rodgers can use his arm to throw the receiver open and give him a chance to make a play. 

Otherwise you're basically asking for Rodgers to take a risk and not throw to a receiver (that he has not gotten to in his progression yet) that could potentially be open to try and throw open a receiver who has a man draped all over him. 

That might seem a little simplistic but of the 27 drop backs last game, I only counted 5 plays where a receiver was open at any point in their route and Rodgers couldn't find them. Of those five plays, one Cobb route (twice on the same play), Adams streaking over the middle, and the play in the gif below where Rodgers seemed to miss all three receivers at the bottom of the screen were the only really egregious misses. The other two plays were simply a guy being open for a second and Rodgers not looking at him during that moment. All-in-all that is pretty solid for an entire game and only missing five guys being open at any point (assuming I didn't miss any) but it also goes to show just how covered the receivers were that game. 

Once he makes his reads, that is the point where I think Rodgers could take a few chances to throw his receiver open and to be fair, in my opinion he usually does. The receivers were just blanketed on Sunday. I'm not willing to sacrifice hitting a potentially open receiver for one that he will need to try and throw open and risk not only the incompletion, but an interception. 

As far as force-feeding the receivers, at times throwing into double coverage, and just taking more risks in general with the ball I am completely against it. I would rather Rodgers take the sack or just throw it away than risk turning it over. The Packers' defense isn't playing the same as it was the first handful of games and quite frankly hasn't played as well as it did the first handful games of this season at any point over the last four years. I am more inclined to believe that was the defense playing as well as it could than I am to believe that is who they will be the rest of the season.

If the defense isn't getting sacks and creating turnovers and all-around just shutting teams down, there isn't a huge room for error with how the offense is struggling. Hell the biggest win of the season so far for the Packers is 14 points despite the defense forcing four turnovers one game and getting seven sacks in another.

Even when the offense was going well over the last couple years, the team has struggled overcoming turnovers. The win against St. Louis this season is the first time the Packers have won a game in which Aaron Rodgers has thrown an interception since 2013. They have lost five of their last six games that Rodgers has thrown an interception and seven of the ten games going back through the 2012 season.

I am of the opinion that while Rodgers could take a couple more risks, that won't really fix the offense. The problem starts at the top with the game plan and simply getting receivers open. To me it is simple, the Packers need to run a lot of quick-hitting routes that make it easy for the receivers to get open and they absolutely must get the running game going. Yesterday Jay outlined how the Packers can fix the offense's woes and there is a lot of good analysis there. Most of the issues can be solved by knowing what they have now and realizing what they can and cannot do on offense right now. Especially against defenses with good pass rushing from their front four.

Taking more risks isn't the issue and will not solve what currently ails the Packers' offense.

Thankfully McCarthy has been pretty open to accepting change over his time in Green Bay and I believe they will come out with a game plan against Carolina that gets the offense going. They don't need to put up 40 points per game, they just need to maintain some consistency and sustain drives to give the Packers' defense a rest. If they can sustain drives, eventually everything on offense will start to open up again. 

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4thand1's picture

November 05, 2015 at 06:51 am

So now the people want a gunslinger. Rodgers in no way will change what he does. As usual, the QB gets all the credit/blame for a teams performance. Last year people wanted Brady benched. Luck is being grilled and the Colts just suck. Stats man, fantasy football demands it. I guess everyone wants games like the Giants/Saints game last weekend. Its still a team sport, and the team with a really good QB has a better chance to win. But a great defense can still win championships. Remember how the seahacks made Manning look just 2 short years ago. This year they already had a 6 foot hole dug for ol Peyton.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 06:51 am

I have seen some people say that he needs to throw more Int's. I disagree with that. No QB wants to throw Int's.

I do think at times Rodgers needs to have a little more faith that his WR will make a play, and let the ball loose.

I also think that he needs to take the under neath route a little more often. A 2-5 yard gain is better then no gain or a sack. In that GIF above, he has the WR or TE open in the flat. If he throws it to him, he likely gets anywhere from 0-2 yards to 5 yards without breaking a tackle. Its still better than taking a sack on the play. And who knows, maybe the player breaks a tackle and has a 10+ yard gain.
Sometimes they just need to be given a chance to make a play.

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marpag1's picture

November 05, 2015 at 01:07 pm

I don't think you're being simplistic at all. In fact, I would say something even more simplistic. I think the majority of fans don't really understand how hard it is - FROM THE QB's VANTAGE POINT - to see receivers even when they are open. On a lot of plays, everything is perfect chaos, and the QB is seeing all of it from field level without the benefit of Fox Sports and their eye-in-the-sky cameras. Even under ideal circumstances, you can't see the entire field at once. Hands are in your face, you're being chased, perhaps you have to turn one way or the other, a linebacker 5 yards in front of a receiver might mean that the receiver ISN'T really open, or at least that it would be really difficult to "drop the ball in" over the LB, etc.

The QB's view isn't anything even remotely similar to what we see on television.

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4thand1's picture

November 05, 2015 at 07:03 am

Remember the Chargers game? Rivers missed 3 receivers that were wide open on 3 different downs when they were 1st and goal. But he threw for over 500 yards.

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Evan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 07:42 am

Did Chargers blogs dedicate 10,000+ words about how Rivers didn't trust those WRs?

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4thand1's picture

November 05, 2015 at 10:03 am

10,000 only? This has been beaten to death long enough.

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Nick Perry's picture

November 05, 2015 at 07:09 am

1) Put Eddie Lacy on the treadmill and tell him to keep running until you lose 15 pounds. He just looks soooo slow AND large going to the hole (If there is one.) This would help Rodgers more than anything because defenses have lost respect for our Running Game IMO. One of those 2 Safeties playing high would start to drop closer to the LOS which will only help open things up downfield.

2) I get it, Rodgers doesn't trust Jeff Janis. I'm hardly calling Janis the savior, but TRY and use him on some deep post routes and slants. It's not like you can drop MUCH further, you have the 28th ranked offense!

3) Get Montgomery healthy. This offense seemed to be at it's best with him on the field. Even against Seattle when Adams went down the offense was better with Montgomery on the field. With Montgomery on the field the creativity level of this offense goes up, not so predictable. He's the perfect guy to get a quick passing game going, especially teamed with Cobb.

4) STOP worrying about your TD to INT ratio. You could throw a few picks this year and still be way ahead of Brady for your career. But does it make ANY sense to throw a 2 yard pass to Richard Rodgers on 3rd and 9? Your Aaron f'ing Rodgers! Go back and look at the 3rd and 10 throw to Jennings in the SB, your that man!!!

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 07:24 am

1. Agreed. I think Lacy is a major key to the offense. Get him rolling and the offense will be much improved.

2. Agreed. I get it. Janis is far from a finished product. He has a long ways to go as far as his development goes. But the fact is the guy makes plays. He has the speed and play making ability we are lacking on offense. I don't see why they can't mix him into the offense.

3. Agreed. Montgomery to me is the x factor. He is the one player that can completely change the look of our offense. And I agree with you that when he is in the game the creativity of the offense goes up. I am looking forward to having him, Adams, Jones, and Cobb all on the field at the same time.

4. Disagree. I don't want any INT's. I get your point that he needs to take a few more risks, but doesn't mean he has to throw Int's to do so.
No it doesn't make sense to throw to Rich Rodg a 2 yard pass on a 3rd and 9. But it also doesn't make a lot of sense to throw a 20+ yard pass on a 3rd and 2 either.
That being said, sometimes you have to take what you can, and sometimes you have to try and make plays. The key is to know when to do it and when not to.

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WKUPackFan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 09:40 am

Agree with your disagree (no offense Nick). AR's TD/INT ratio is one of the things that makes him great. Turnovers are killers.

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Nick Perry's picture

November 06, 2015 at 07:14 am

Non taken WKU, love the feedback. Not suggesting Rodgers TRY and throw a pick, it just FEELS sometimes watching him he's to damn concerned about it. Remember the Sunday Night game against Minnesota a few years ago when Collinsworth was making comments on the Passes going "Right by the Earhole of the Defender", fitting it in the tightest of spots. A few of those type passes from Rodgers would be nice to see again. Against good coverage you have to at least try right? Otherwise you end up with 77 yards passing.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 06, 2015 at 09:50 am

Yeah, I agree with your take on this.

I do think he needs to be more willing to make some of those throws more often.

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Nick Perry's picture

November 06, 2015 at 07:22 am

All excellent points RC. We both love Montgomery and I share the same thoughts on the 3rd and 2 reference , though we have seen Rodgers complete some of those.

If the Packers have another game like that against Carolina, do they take Play Calling from Clements?

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 06, 2015 at 09:51 am

Yeah, we have been on the Montgomery kick since the draft. I just want to see him get healthy, and get used like we envision him being used.

I dont think they will take the play calling from Clements, but I think we might see more involvement with McCarthy.

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Dan Stodola's picture

November 05, 2015 at 08:21 am

One of those Safeties is already in the box. Teams have been playing 8 in the box most of the year. Probably as soon as the 2nd game of the season, maybe before, teams have been getting that extra safety down in the box to stop the run as well as to provide more coverage in the short/intermediate areas. Single high Safeties is about all the Packers have faced.

I agree about Lacy. Finally others are seeing what I've been saying for a long time, not just this year either. Lacy is too heavy, gotta be at least 250, but should be 230-235.

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Spud Rapids's picture

November 05, 2015 at 11:47 am

Nick, couple of thoughts on your comments:

1) Lacy was banged up but I still see him hitting the holes when they are available. I attribute the lack of running more to the O-line then Lacy. I don't think he's any slower than years past.

2) Can we let the Janis thing go? You don't think if he could help at all they would put him in? They played Justin Perillo right? They give guys chances if they truly believe they can contribute. All we know is Janis is big and fast and that isn't reason to play him. Adrian Hubbard was huge and fast as well and he didn't even get drafted and now he is cut.

3) Agreed, the offense is better with him on the field. But I think he has nothing to do with predictability. He is an athlete and can beat guys one on one that's why they are better with him on the field.

4) I doubt Rodgers is thinking if I chance a throw my TD to INT ratio will be affected. What I do know is our defense can be suspect at times so I'm happy Rodgers doesn't turn the ball over and give the opposing offense the ball at our own 30 yard line. Bottom line is Rodgers needs guys open and he also notice he doesn't lead guys into big hits. That can result in the ball being jarred into the air and INTs becoming more likely.

Look we haven't had the full receiving corps healthy and on the field all together yet this year. It would be one thing if that were the case with Jordy still available but the whole offense saw a shockwave when he went down. Every receiver has been banged up this year, Cobb shoulder, Jones hamstring, Monty ankle... give them time as I believe the we are saying the adjustment period that happens every season. It normally would happen when the Packers started slow i just think it's coming later in the year this year.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 12:25 pm

'2) Can we let the Janis thing go? You don't think if he could help at all they would put him in? They played Justin Perillo right? They give guys chances if they truly believe they can contribute. All we know is Janis is big and fast and that isn't reason to play him. Adrian Hubbard was huge and fast as well and he didn't even get drafted and now he is cut.'

There is a huge difference between Janis and Hubbard. Janis has performed on the field in preseaon games and regular season when asked. Hubbard never did.

I thought Janis proved in the San Diego that he could contribute. He had 3 big time plays in that game. I'm sure he had some negative plays that we didn't see, but he showed he can be a play making type of player.

Maybe he isn't ready to contribute full time, but I have a hard time believing they think Perillo offers more as a pass catcher then Janis does.

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Nick Perry's picture

November 06, 2015 at 07:08 am

Spud I respect your opinion, just like I respect RC's and Dan's. My thinking is if Janis can't catch a slant 5 yards or so off the line of scrimmage or catch a pass deep (Which he's already done) why's he on the team? Your point about Perillo speaks more about the sad sacks the Packers call TE's than anything else. Rodgers might very well have "The Best Hands on The Team", he's also one of the slowest TE's in the NFL.

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Spud Rapids's picture

November 06, 2015 at 01:36 pm

"My thinking is if Janis can't catch a slant 5 yards or so off the line of scrimmage or catch a pass deep (Which he's already done) why's he on the team?"

I have an answer to this... Special teams... he is the best gunner on the team and took over for Jarrett Bush... hell he is Jarrett Bush! Fast as all hell, all the physical tools but a liability during the regular course of play.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 05, 2015 at 02:43 pm

Agree . Especially on the 4th point and the 3rd and 9 play!

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 07:14 am

'The problem starts at the top with the game plan and simply getting receivers open. To me it is simple, the Packers need to run a lot of quick-hitting routes that make it easy for the receivers to get open and they absolutely must get the running game going.'

I agree with this. This basically has been my opinion as well.

One of Rodgers best traits over the years is, his ability to get the ball out faster then any other QB.
I think they need to do a better job of game planning to get the ball out quicker, and getting players in space easier. Also during games they need to do a better job at adjust their game plan to what the defense has been doing.

I think some of the bigger problems this season with the offense is that they have game planned well, but they haven't been able to quickly adjust to the adjustments the defenses have make.
It seems like almost every game this year (except Denver) Packers move the ball with ease their first few drives and get a lot of points. Then for the next 2 quarters they are in a rut when defenses adjusted what they are doing.

I would like to see them do a better job at in game adjustments.

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4thand1's picture

November 05, 2015 at 07:29 am

I see the word "simple" used a lot. If football were simple, every team would be a playoff contender. Nfl QB is the hardest position to play in professional sports. IMO, Rodgers will figure it out..............R-E-L-A-X, he's that good.

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dobber's picture

November 05, 2015 at 07:40 am

No offense, Mike, because I like your articles, but...

...can we start talking Carolina now?

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Evan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 07:44 am

THIS.

I think the horse is dead, people.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 08:07 am

You sure the horse is dead? Sometimes you can't be sure until you kick it a few more times.

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murphy's picture

November 05, 2015 at 10:20 am

The horses looked to be kicking pretty good on Sunday night.

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Evan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 02:13 pm

I have a pack of ground beef that smelled fine Sunday night...I'm not eating it today.

EDIT: Three hours later I finally got what your comment meant...ha

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MikeReuter's picture

November 05, 2015 at 01:52 pm

I get that, and quite frankly wanted to avoid talking about the offense. This was actually 3rd or 4th on my list to write about. I either couldn't get the numbers put together or simply couldn't find them for the other things I wanted to write about. This was sort of a safety preserver that didn't require a ton of research.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 05, 2015 at 09:15 pm

Even in the GIF, you take that checkdown Lacy/Starks vs a CB ALL DAY -- EVERYDAY.

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MikeReuter's picture

November 05, 2015 at 02:06 pm

The GIF was the worst play of the day by him, by far. I don't know if he was shell shocked or what at that point, this was the first drive in the 4th quarter.

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Evan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 09:01 am

One thing I will bring up that I've only seen mentioned in passing - was Rodgers concussed/hurt?

We all saw that hit early in the game where it looked like he was in a lot of pain.

I'd bet that had more affect on his poor performance than any aversion to taking risks or lack of trust with WRs.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 09:52 am

I agree. I think I might have brought that up earlier this week. But I have posted so much I can't remember. :)

I wondered about that too and I did wonder about that during the game.

I don't think he had a concussion, but did he get hurt? I mean his throws were really off. How many times have we seen him miss a Receiver in the flat? Not very often. And his throw to Cobb was way over his head.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 09:07 am

I think the best answer to your title question is: NO! And it is best, because it is so simple!

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PaulRosik's picture

November 05, 2015 at 10:43 am

You took my answer Croat.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 05, 2015 at 09:40 am

I agree wholeheartedly that more risk is not the answer. If you've got a non-explosive offense that needs to be methodical and grind out drives, then you need to throw a lot of high % passes.

I hope MM and Clements are bouncing ideas (if not heads) around. Sadly, I'm not sure they are.

The offense probably improves simply because I don't think they will face another team with 4 high quality DBs combined with an good front 7.

Finally, on the Gif, I see the RB and TE open. Jones at best might be open for an instant as he crossed the numbers (about 2.0 seconds), and Cobb also for a bit as he crosses the right hashmark at about 1.95 seconds, (he's going to get hit hard if that throw is made), but both would have been tight windows in traffic. Rodgers' feet get set around 1.42 seconds. Rodgers starts to get into trouble about 3.0 seconds after the snap [edit: on a 4 man rush]. Starks needs the ball in about 2.1 seconds to have room to make the defender miss.

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WKUPackFan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 09:51 am

There's been a lot of talk about short crossing routes. I don't think we're ever going to see AR working the short middle a lot, except for check downs. The middle is much more dangerous for tipped balls, etc. as there are usually a lot of defenders in the area. AR has the arm to work mainly in the safer area outside the numbers.

Just an opinion based on observation. It would be interesting to see some statistics on the subject.

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Ferrari Driver's picture

November 05, 2015 at 09:52 am

Good article.

Peyton Manning had targets running free and fully open over the middle of the field the entire game. I would love to see Manning behind the Packers' OL and trying to complete passes to the Green Bay receivers, playing against the Denver defense.

Then these Monday morning QB's we read about would have a real field day!

Denver simply covered the Green Bay receivers like a blanket and the Denver defensive rush as strong.

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Spud Rapids's picture

November 05, 2015 at 11:50 am

The broncos had the second worst tight end production coming into that game. They used them knowing Green Bay wouldn't focus on them. That was a good game plan and it especially worked well when the Packers lost two CBs in the game. That meant that Hyde had to play corner and couldn't cover the tight ends. Also we forget that Sean Richardson was excellent at covering Tight Ends and he is no longer available.

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Evan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 11:49 am

Wilde just tweeted a shocking stat: only Nick Foles has fewer passing attempts than Rodgers this year. That's insane to me.

EDIT: I assume it's based on minimum number of starts or something.

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4thand1's picture

November 05, 2015 at 10:06 am

There 9 games left. Lotta foosball.

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Evan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 10:58 am

Of course...but to be next to last after 7 games is rather inexcusable for this offense.

Rogers needs to make more passes, period. Not take more chances.

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WKUPackFan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 10:07 am

Utterly insane!

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PaulRosik's picture

November 05, 2015 at 10:32 am

http://nesn.com/2015/10/tom-brady-patriots-wide-receivers-require-footba...

And now Tom Brady has issues of trust with his receivers also? What is with this "trust gap" for Quarterbacks? Could it be they just really work on their game and want receivers who really work on their game also? Oh my!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 05, 2015 at 10:54 am

This is nothing new regarding Brady and his receivers. Quite a few washed out there by not knowing the adjustments, IIRC.

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PaulRosik's picture

November 05, 2015 at 08:50 pm

But in Green Bay it's because they aren't Rodgers buddy and not because they just washed out?

Maybe Janis doesn't see the field not because Rodgers doesn't like him, maybe its because he's just not that good and doesn't go to the right spot.

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Since'61's picture

November 05, 2015 at 11:07 am

Rodgers does not need to take more risks and the trust issues are irrelevant. If a receiver is where Rodgers expects him to be, when he expects him to be there Rodgers is going to throw him the ball. If we don't believe that Rodgers is not taking enough chances or doesn't trust his receivers many someone should write an article an whether or not we trust Aaron Rodgers! I think we all know the answer to that question. Moving back to reality and actual football played on the field the solutions to the Packers offensive problems begin with the OL. Due to injuries the OL has not been at 100% for most of this season, guys are playing banged up. Even Sitton gave up his first sack in 27 games against the Broncos. Linsley has had his ups and downs as well, not to mention Bulaga and Bakh. The OL needs to pick it up to get the running game and the passing game going. Secondly, Lacy needs to step up. Whether it's his ankle, his weight or a combination of everything he needs to run more effectively. I can remember several articles from the first half of last season when there were many concerns about Lacy's performance and those articles disappeared during the second half of the season. Hopefully the same will happen this season. As Randall Cobb said, the receivers need to do a better job of getting open and he's correct, the receivers need to step up as well. Finally, is Rodgers holding the ball because no one is open a sign of a lack of risk taking or good decision making. A large part of Rodgers role as QB is to make good decisions with the football. This is especially true when the offense is struggling and the defense is either keeping the team in the game and/or protecting lead. You don't want to make it more difficult for the defense by taking risks and throwing unnecessary interceptions. To me, it's actually a credit to Rodgers to protect the ball when he is under pressure and/or his receivers are unable to get open. The argument that Rodgers is more concerned about his TD/Int ratio over the team's W/L record is another spurious argument like the trust discussion which adds nothing to the conversation about correcting the issues the offense is currently facing. We lost to Denver in Denver, we were going to lose at some point this season, better to an AFC team. Now move on to Carolina and let's see how the Packers as a team, from MM on down, respond in a critical NFC game, that will probably have tie breaker implications down the road. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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PaulRosik's picture

November 05, 2015 at 08:52 pm

Maybe the question should be if we trust the receivers.

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EdsLaces's picture

November 05, 2015 at 11:28 am

Chubby or not ...run the football. It will fix some of these problems till 88 gets back. Adams or no Adams someone alluded to it earlier that Monty makes our Offense more potent. Davante might be a sideline guy but with an extra safety in the box Cobb and Monty need to be in the middle of the field making plays...just my 2 cents.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 12:41 pm

It felt like we were going to start seeing Montgomery featured a lot in the San Diego game until he got hurt.

When he can play again, I think his presence will allow more creativity in play calling, and will create more confusion on defenses.

I am looking forward to seeing our offense ran with its top 4 WR's available.

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November 05, 2015 at 12:28 pm

If you want Rodgers to make questionable throws, if you want to play jump ball, then you need receivers who can play jump ball. Randall Cobb? Uh, no. Jump ball is not his game. Davante Adams? Hard to play jump ball with a recent ankle injury. James Jones? He can muscle some away, but he doesn't have a vertical presence. There ain't no Calvin Johnson on this squad.

Also, Mike Spofford over at Packers.com did a little video show. The company line: "Nobody was open."

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porupack's picture

November 05, 2015 at 01:18 pm

This discussion in the comments is weird. Just weird. The Janis - Rodgers grudge thing. Blaming Rogers protecting his INT ratio. Just weird.

On the gif above; The WRs aren't elite, but with more creative routes they could be open. I think the TE was open. I also see 2 WRs bunched up. Something is wrong with the route concepts in that particular gif.

When you say in your article "they need to get the run game going" and " they need to sustain drives" is kind of like saying that they need to win the game.
Sure. They need to get the run game going. They need to get the pass game going too.

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MikeReuter's picture

November 05, 2015 at 02:44 pm

The issue is, they don't even try to run the ball. You aren't going to develop a run game by running it on 30% of your plays.

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Evan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 03:50 pm

And rotating backs every 3 carries...

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 05, 2015 at 04:11 pm

That is what I didn't get. Lacy had success early, and they immediately went to Starks and didn't get Lacy back in for a long time after. I like rotating them but when a RB is having success, stick with them.

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November 05, 2015 at 09:41 pm

It's possible that Lacy was having problems with his asthma, especially given the thinner air in Denver. Thanks, Since '61

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November 06, 2015 at 09:52 am

It could have been? I am not sure.

I think it was more that they wanted to get Starks in there too.

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November 05, 2015 at 03:26 pm

Well it is 4 days after the Sunday debacle...and I have read numerous articles and the resulting comments from the Armchair Packer Nation.

Now all of a sudden The Packers are talked about as popular as a frog in a punch bowl!

This article borders on absurd. "Should Aaron Rodgers take more chances?"""""" Probably, one of the most A$$9 leads I have ever read.

In a nutshell...yes, Rodgers game was terribly off.....

The bottom line is we have won 6 games in a row...the weekly pundits have praised the green and gold receivers supposedly that float above the ground with wings on there ankles...and Rodgers the best football player in the UNIVERSE, and Mc Carthy the great sage of the grid iron....

Poppycock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, we lost...but we have a d#Mn great team.

Yes, there were receivers that Rodgers didn't see, there were receivers that he threw the dang ball out of the stadium as far as how close it was to the receiver, and don't forget the dropped balls.

The game was an accumulation of the Perfect Football Storm unfortunately the Packers were The Andrea Gail.

Had Rodger's taken "chances" and threw a few interceptions among this night of mediocrity... I would suspect that he would have to take his dog inside at night for Pete's Sake.

5 reason (my humble opinion) on what really happened.

1. The Broncos in there wisdom made this game their Orange and Blue Ribbon day...they had the Super Bowl 32 winners (you know the ones that embarrassed us and made Wolf call our team a "flash in the pan"). They had the Pat Bowl the Alzheimer victim (respectfully pointed out) put on the Lombardi-like pedestal.... In other words this game was like what the poor Bears are going to have to go through when Favre has his number retired on Thanksgiving.... Those players were Jacked UP!!!!!

2. The coaches had the blue print on how to beat us by laid out in black and white by using the Chargers playbook from the week before.

3. The line couldn't block a ping pong ball. Rodgers was blowing snot bubbles by his second hit... The Packers should be drawn up on charges for not putting Rodgers on the bench for concussion protocols.... the guy was seeing three receivers when there was only one. He was running for his fricken life.

4. The altitude is a killer....I mentioned this before...an advantage that isn't realized by us Winnebago level creatures. The Broncos had jets on there feet while our whole defense was sucking wind.

5. The coaches...Capers had means of defending those crossing, quick passes, that rip us apart...yeah, I know, he tried man to man, he tried zone...but he NEVER dropped DEs into the zone and just let the linebackers flatten their ears and have a running start at what was supposedly a "weak link" Broncos Offensive line.

Offensively... well....we were vanilla ice cream in Willy Wonka's Chocolate factory.

Bottom line...this team will continue to win, they arn not Gods, and they are not Da Bums that many have portrayed them this week..As Packer fans we just won't tolerate losing...no matter how many games we win..we are a spoiled Sports base of fans.

And that's the way it should be!

GO PACK!!!!!

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November 05, 2015 at 08:56 pm

Yes we are used to winning and should not tolerate losing. But there's way too much we lost one road game so now the season is over talk.

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WinUSA's picture

November 05, 2015 at 03:29 pm

My misspell of Mr. Bowlen last name is embarrassing...my humble apologies.

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November 05, 2015 at 04:01 pm

I don't want #12 to be at all any more like the ol' Dong Slinger. I'll go ahead and make the unqualified claim that it hurt us more than it helped us. Every time I read something like this, I think of Favre's last throw in a Packer uniform.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbbZ7_dGTTE

We don't want that.

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November 05, 2015 at 09:04 pm

Funny when i think of Favre I think of plays like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbwiuz9utmI

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November 05, 2015 at 10:19 pm

Denver played a tough pass defensive scheme making hard for anyone to be successful, coupled with the pass rush, you can't blame Rogers for all that.
Its easy to say, gee out guys should have gotten open. Ya to do that you kind of have to out run and or out maneuver the guys or guys covering you. Sometimes you can and sometimes you can't.
I would hope Capers saw this defensive scheme and learned something that we can use for our guys.
Seems manning did the tight end over the middle ad nauseum and it worked all night for first downs. No defenders in sight.

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