Does it matter that Matt LaFleur is skipping the Combine?

Matt LaFleur and his staff will not attend the Combine. His staff is not the only staff that will be absent. Is it a cause for concern?

The 2023 NFL Combine is set to get underway this week, but Green Bay Packers head coach Matt LaFleur and his staff will stay put in Green Bay, instead of traveling to Indianapolis. 

ESPN’s Rob Demovsky recently tweeted that, “LaFleur felt his time was better spent working with the staff on scheme projects. Because everything from the combine is recorded, they can view it afterward.”

Scheme projects may include but are not limited to: (1) inserting more run plays from under center into the playbook; (2) scrapping the 2022 red zone offensive schemes; and (3) not allowing Packer defenders to play ten yards off the line on third-and-three. 

Coaches skipping the NFL Combine is not a new phenomenon in 2023. New York Jets head coach Robert Saleh, Los Angeles Rams head coach Sean McVay, San Francisco 49ers Kyle Shanahan, Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, and New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick all skipped the 2022 NFL Combine. Saleh will also miss it again this year, per Zack Rosenblatt of The Athletic. Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio reported Sunday that other coaching staffs besides those for the Jets and the Packers are also opting to skip this year’s Combine. 

LaFleur’s absence should not be a concern as the Combine is simply one opportunity out of several in which the coaching staff can get face-to-face time with prospects. Plus, the interview with each prospect at the Combine is only 20 minutes or so. If LaFleur and his staff are not there in person for a 20-minute interview, will the Packers now be at a disadvantage in identifying the best talent that fits their roster needs? Hardly. And as Saleh pointed out last year, coaches are able to learn more about the prospects they are interested in at Pro Days, private workouts, and top-30 workouts, as well as via separate phone conversations.

Perhaps the most significant item from the Combine is the medical test/physical that each player undergoes, as my boss Aaron Nagler pointed out here, which the coaches obviously have nothing to do with. Still, when asked about a coaching staff’s absence from the Combine, general manager Brian Gutekunst said at last year’s Combine that he believes there is value in having coaches attend. 

“The opportunity for [LaFleur and his staff] to sit down with players, even though it is a short amount of time, I think it is really important for them to get a feel for how they might fit in our locker room, how might they learn, and that’s very valuable as we’re making our decision.” 

Gutekunst & Co., as of right now, will have eight decisions to make throughout the NFL Draft weekend, and LaFleur’s absence from the Combine should not have any impact on those decisions.

 

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Coldworld's picture

February 27, 2023 at 12:11 pm

The real answer lies in the why. There are reasons to interact with peers and prospects that ought to impact internal exchanges with Gute and his team. I don’t really buy either your asserted equivalency or that it’s more efficient spread out than in on concentrated week. What is the reason why this particular week is otherwise so valuable that any such benefit is negated? I can’t see one at this point in the off season, but I’m open to hearing of it. Absent that, I see no positive in absence. This sounds to me more like an attempt to construct a justification than a natural and credible one.

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Blockdoc's picture

February 27, 2023 at 12:31 pm

That's the same way I see it. Gutey said it's important for them to be there just last year.
This has damage control written all over it.
If one guy says the wrong thing about Rodgers, his value goes down.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:59 pm

I can see several reasons why Gutey doesn't want them there...

More likely, Mrs. Matt LaFleur told her husband he couldn't go out to play...

Since Mrs. LaFleur told Mattie boy no, he told his subordinates they couldn't go either.

Most likely Matt does have more work to do than any other year to date. If the plan is to move on from Rodgers, he actually has to come up with an offense this year, since Rodgers won't be here to run his own offense. Think of all the 3rd down plays they'll have to come up with since we won't be throwing deep on 3rd and short, 3rd and medium, and 3rd and long...

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greengold's picture

February 28, 2023 at 06:00 am

Plus side? There won’t be any photos/video of Matt LaFleur asleep in the stands.

C’mon man. That’s big!

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Oppy's picture

February 27, 2023 at 12:11 pm

If the coach coaches and the scouting department scouts and there's good communication between the GM and the coaching staff? Nope.

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mnbadger's picture

February 27, 2023 at 12:16 pm

Thank you for explaining the "Why" part of mlf's absence.
I was baffled when I heard that he wasn't attending, but like most things, I only have small bits of information then I over react!
I'll still only be supportive if items 1, 2 & 3 from Rex's list of projects are addressed in earnest.
Hopefully the staff started the day after the lions' game and will continue working to correct those failures right up to the start of OTA's.
Then we can begin the chase towards a 2024 super bowl!
(I'm starting to enjoy the hope and promise of the offseason as much as the regular season.)
GPG!

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

February 27, 2023 at 04:16 pm

Thank you for your comment that "but like most things, I only have small bits of information then I over react!"

That describes much of the fan commentary on this site. Take a little information, maybe mix it with a dose of misinformation, or uninformed opinion and then BOOM blow it out of proportion. It's a daily life exercise for many commenters, as it is with many sports reporters.

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barutanseijin's picture

February 27, 2023 at 08:19 pm

But not you.

I do wonder why you grace us with your presence in these comments when we fail to meet your discursive standards.

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4thand10's picture

February 27, 2023 at 08:56 pm

Maybe Rodgers pops in under an anonymous user name :-)

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Oppy's picture

February 27, 2023 at 06:42 pm

.wrong thread

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mnbadger's picture

February 27, 2023 at 12:25 pm

One note to whoever makes choice of photos for articles - until we have a new DC, please don't show me mlf's face any more.
More often than not I read this sight during my lunch break. His face irritates my stomach so badly that I've honestly lost nearly 30 lbs since mid October!
I'm not sure if there's a direct link or not, but I know it's hard to choke down lunch after seeing so much smugness.
You'd think he's won a SB or two.
Somebody needs to remind him of his playoff record and his record vs. the lions.
GPG!

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chrisdavis's picture

February 27, 2023 at 03:22 pm

How this "defensive Idiot" still has a Job is beyond explanation. This is what happens in the world of no accountability that we are currently enjoying.

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marpag1's picture

February 27, 2023 at 03:49 pm

You mean LaFleur? .712 winning percentage, division champs 3 out of 4 years, 2 NFC championship games, one divisional game...

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PackyCheese500's picture

February 27, 2023 at 05:27 pm

...and yet no Super Bowls. Beating sub-par opponents in the regular season doesn't make you a great coach. Winning in the postseason against meaningful opponents does.

I will admit that the Packers were just inferior in 2019, but they should have won in 2020 and 2021, and MLF fell short. Remember the decision to kick the FG and not firing Mo Drayton?

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

February 27, 2023 at 06:23 pm

Do you get fired for every mistake you make? Can you imagine how the Packers would be if coaches were fired due to not being perfect, making mistakes or having some inconsistency? Who is better than LaFleur? Super Bowl winning coaches are few and far between so the teams they are with generally keep them until they retire. LaFleur is a very young guy in a head coach position for the first time. I'm glad they didn't give up on McCarthy; he coached them to a Title. Fans today would have been calling for his head.

There are a heckuva lot worse head coaches than LaFleur. Not all playoff losses should be laid at his feet. Injuries to all-pro starters affect a team, and the difference in talent cannot always be overcome by coaching.

Guess how many head coaches that are active have won a Super Bowl? Looks there are 7 and they already have jobs: active head coaches to have won a Super Bowl are Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Pete Carroll, Mike McCarthy, Sean Payton, Doug Pederson, Andy Reid, and Sean McVay.

What if KC had moved on from Reid b/c he didn't win a Super Bowl in his first 6 seasons with the team, or Belichick b/c he went 9 years between titles and now can't even make the playoffs?

Every head coach in the league falls short every year, except for one guy. I'll take a guy whose team has 13 wins 3 seasons in a row, rejuvenating the career of an MVP QB. I'd say he's not perfect but he's had tremendous success and will learn from every experience.

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PackyCheese500's picture

February 28, 2023 at 07:59 am

Reid, Belichick, and McCarthy all have showed great leadership. MLF looks like a sissy on the sideline and during his postgame interviews. The sissy culture was affecting the locker room last season.

It is fine to make mistakes, but not when you don’t learn from them. Retaining Barry after the Drayton debacle? MLF has shown time and again that he has fallen short when it matters most, and he will continue to do so until the Packers management has had enough.

Just because there are lots of worse coaches than LaFleur doesn’t mean that should be good enough for us. We need a true leader to lead our great team in pursuit of a SB, and MLF is not the guy.

Also, it was not MLF who rejuvenated Rodgers. Just look at his 2019 season. Still good, but not MVP caliber. What really revived Rodgers was the selection of Jordan Love. He knew the Packers were preparing to move on, so he put in extra effort and had an MVP year. MLFs offense may have been behind the Packers scoring so many points in the 2020 season (against sub par competition, if I might add), but Rodgers chose to revive himself.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 28, 2023 at 03:15 am

If you need to lose another 30 pounds, I can stop showing a photo of my Cat "Bubba" on my avatar and start using a photo of my face. Eh, in that case, do you need to lose another 60 pounds?

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Oppy's picture

February 28, 2023 at 07:24 am

You may be sexually attracted to MLF and due to a strict catholic upbringing feel ashamed and guilty to the point of making yourself ill with your lustful thoughts and subsequent denial leading to a cycle of self hatred.

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Packerpasty's picture

February 28, 2023 at 08:21 am

well he is cute.

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davekenya's picture

February 27, 2023 at 12:32 pm

The topic of MLF and staff not attending the combine could certainly lend itself to speculation as there may be many reasons for not attending -- and we'll never know the truth.

It's a grind; as mentioned, the tangible results can be gotten later via tape and crunching the numbers. And it's probably more important for GMs and medical staff to do their thing. I get that.

However, to quote Sherlock 'Data! Data! I cannot make bricks without clay'. I would think that MLF and his staff could do their 'scheme projects' in a hotel room and only swoop down for the player interviews if using their time wisely is that important. The (20 minute short) interview pieces seem more difficult to replicate to form your own impressions (of players taking responsibility for on/off field mistakes, internal motivation & motor, etc.) and would make the trip worth it. The combine allows this to occur more efficiently than taking the individual trips to player school pro-days.

This article sums up the coach pros/cons of attending as well as any out there (and also has a few good reader comments): https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/26/more-coaches-question-t...

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

February 27, 2023 at 12:33 pm

What is the purpose of staying put and working on schemes until they truly know whether Rodgers stays, or is gone?

Furthermore, will the drafting of specific offensive players not impact schemes?

Meaning...do the Packers already have a pretty good idea of who (or type of player) they might be drafting offensively at skilled positions? Great examples this year are the TE position. Will the Packers be going for the hybrid TE in Michael Mayer, or wanting to pick-up either Dalton Kincaid, or Luke Musgrave who are big bodies and more WR than true TE's?

The working on schemes to me sounds like there may be Scheme A, and Scheme B depending on Rodgers, or Love, and who they may draft.

Example is Luke Musgrave at 6'6" and weighs 255 lbs, but early reports he runs a similar 40 time as the #1 WR, Quentin Johnston who weighs 215 lbs. The Combine will flesh out the 40 times but if Musgrave is close to that 4.4 speed he is shooting up the board. A guy like Musgrave for example could creatively be used in so many non-traditional ways. Think about in the red zone for example. I believe some of the aforementioned might be coming into play regarding working on schemes. Thoughts anyone? Agree or disagree?

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HarryHodag's picture

February 27, 2023 at 05:13 pm

The combine is sarcastically called the "Underwear Olympics". The personnel dept. does the evaluation of the draftable players while the coaching staff provides some input but the cost of it is ridiculous.
There was a reason Mike Sherman fell asleep during it several years ago.

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Fubared's picture

February 27, 2023 at 12:39 pm

I was aghast when I read this until my pea brain got to thinking:
1. They too can watch and tape the action, over an over again
2. They can schedule interviews later with players they think may fall to them
3. Many top players have play days and wont participate so you gain nothing.
4. Their are lots of game film available to the NFL.
5. Time can be spent watching and planning your draft needs.

I think this will be more a trend going forward as more and more top talent want play dates that costs the teams money for travel etc.

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HarryHodag's picture

February 27, 2023 at 05:14 pm

The most meaningful tryouts are at the individual schools one-on-one. Another reason for the downplay of the combine is that teams don't want to tip their hand as to who they like.

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greengold's picture

February 28, 2023 at 06:13 am

Part of me thinks this is the best answer. Another part of me thinks teams all know who opponents’ scouts are hot on and have been evaluating for years.

Are they flying 20 “smokescreen” players into GB for every one they have real interest in drafting…? I doubt it.

Flip side to any stealth element is maybe it’s more efficient to have personnel side evaluating players unencumbered by coaching side aims at that stage.

It’s just not the NFL Draft of the Thompson era, nor the Sugarbear, anymore. This player evaluation world is ever changing like anything else. Maybe it all is as simple as coaching staffs making the trip to Indy carries with it more negatives than positives.

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T7Steve's picture

February 27, 2023 at 12:59 pm

What's the point of attending when Rodgers makes these decisions now! I don't think anyone will show for OTAs either. Just suit up for the first game and call it good. That stuff doesn't matter, unless you want to win a Super Bowl.

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Qoojo's picture

February 27, 2023 at 03:01 pm

Sounds like a plan. Seems like AR is already halfway there. Utilizing that plan, a team could probably get most of their starters through the preseason healthy.

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marpag1's picture

February 27, 2023 at 01:12 pm

Non-issue. It's a huge steaming pile of whoop-de-doo.

We already have enough wild conspiracy theories around here.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 27, 2023 at 03:49 pm

*Not near enough...

"We already have enough wild conspiracy theories around here."

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vin0770's picture

February 27, 2023 at 01:26 pm

Is he going somewhere else to shop for upgrades to the coaching staff? NO

So the main staff member’s comeback, no upgrades, and we’re supposed to be fired up ticket buying fans for the new season…with milk toast MLF leadership…and this is NOT the dictionary definition of insanity?

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PhantomII's picture

February 27, 2023 at 01:37 pm

I read an article of this and these were the reasons: 1.) NFL teams owners are cheap and don't want to pay for all the coaching staff. 2.) Coaching staffs are using these opportunities to market themselves to other teams for later promotions down the road. 3.) A great amount of the drills are recorded and can be reviewed later at will.

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crayzpackfan's picture

February 27, 2023 at 01:37 pm

No. It doesn't matter. He has a hard enough time evaluating the talent on his own team. Let's not confuse him even more.

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Heyward's picture

February 27, 2023 at 01:47 pm

Well done

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:34 pm

C'mon people, the guy is in so far over his head, why drown him.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 27, 2023 at 01:47 pm

It might be that Packers already make the decision with which MLF do not agree and he decide to bypass possible questions he is not willing to answer. Just in case...

I do not believe he is following footsteps of his friends w/o proper reason.

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marpag1's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:42 pm

So I guess as long as we begin by saying "it might be..." then it's totally cool to follow with any unfounded idea we want, whether we have credible evidence or not? Because hey, "it might be," right?

Let me try: "It might be... that croatpackfan is unfairly biased against 'ACR' due to his unresolved anger issues stemming from a rabid goat attack that he suffered when he was seven."

Hey, I'm not saying I have evidence of this, but y'know... "it might be."

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 27, 2023 at 03:55 pm

No disrespect, but it might be you're just fun hating individual too, but I don't think that's it, because that shit was funny... : P

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croatpackfan's picture

February 27, 2023 at 04:48 pm

Well, you made me laugh. Good one.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 27, 2023 at 05:01 pm

As long as you say, "No disrespect..." You can say whatever you want right? ; P

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 28, 2023 at 03:19 am

Well, bless your heart.

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stockholder's picture

February 27, 2023 at 01:56 pm

MLF = Yes Gute. Yes Gute. Yes Gute.
Doing as you're told is one thing.
But we went through this with TT and MM.
The go to your room is obvious.
Gute walks on water now.

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stockholder's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:17 pm

If players don't attend the Combine.
They should not be drafted by the packers.

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LLCHESTY's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:28 pm

They attend if invited, some just don't test.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 27, 2023 at 04:00 pm

That's funny, because MaLF doesn't answer to Gutey at all... He answers to Murphy. Or haven't you been paying attention to the new organizational structure?

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stockholder's picture

February 27, 2023 at 05:25 pm

Well that explains him not going.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 27, 2023 at 07:09 pm

Yes, but the success of each requires the success of both. Neither can succeed in this situation without the other, which means it's best if they're on the same page and working together.

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Johnblood27's picture

February 27, 2023 at 10:35 pm

just stop already with the reasonable, logical comments.

I have had enough of you making sense.

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greengold's picture

February 28, 2023 at 07:25 am

Somebody, make it stop.

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harleycops's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:06 pm

Sure, you can watch a MLB or NBA game on TV, but don't you see a lot more when attending in person? Sure, you can watch tape of NFL wannabes, but don't you gain a lot more when being there in person? You mean to tell me that a 6 1/2 hr drive, 400 mile drive or a 1 1/4 hr flight from GB to Indy is so time prohibitive that the FO can't send some coaches to the combines? This disinterest is disturbing. This team was a mess last season from where they've been. With another critical draft in 2 months and high stakes QB decisions coming soon, it's time to go to the NFL prospect dealership in Indy and "test drive" your possible candidates instead of just looking at pictures.

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marpag1's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:28 pm

"You mean to tell me that a 6 1/2 hr drive, 400 mile drive or a 1 1/4 hr flight from GB to Indy is so time prohibitive that the FO can't send some coaches to the combines?"

FYI - The combine is not conducted on the airplane or in the car.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 27, 2023 at 05:10 pm

Saving money to buy new, big screen Microsoft Surface's so AR12 can take better selfies this year... SMH

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harleycops's picture

February 27, 2023 at 07:44 pm

Did you ever hear of allegories?

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Leatherhead's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:22 pm

No. We're going to draft a couple of those guys, but the second half of our draft will be guys who aren't even at the combine.

So, let's say...4 or 5 guys at there that we might end up with. We've already seen their college film, and what's on the film is more important than what you do in shorts. Some guys will move up or down, but for the most part, the Packers have an idea of who they'd like. It's been discussed among the parties. And a video of a guy running a 40 is pretty much the same as watching it in person from the stands.

Furthermore, we can invite guys to Green Bay to visit, if LaFleur would really like to see them up close.

Let the scouts do their job, and let LaFleur do his.

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LLCHESTY's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:31 pm

Is that new math? 319 combine invitees, 255 draft spots this year. If they draft a non combine guy in the 4th or 5th round something's wrong.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:40 pm

Because everybody who gets invited to the combine gets drafted. And no players ever just skip the combine and focus on their pro day.

And some guys, like Myers, are dealing with off-season medical issues that keeps them out of the combine.

So I said "half". It's less than that, you are correct. I think my point is still valid, that most....the vast, overwhelming number.....of people at that combine will NOT be taken by the Packers, that we'll only end up taking a handful, and we'll undoubtedly get some guys who are not at the combine at all. So I'm not understanding why LaFleur needs to be there.

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HarryHodag's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:24 pm

This is one of those questions that are fueled by fantasy/draft geeks and not the folks who actually pull the levers of the draft. Again, a prime example of how 'Kiperized'* the fan bases have become.

Gutekunst and staff make the calls on the draftable players. They will be in attendance. Other than possibly getting a chance to meet a player in person, Matt LF and staff have better things to do. With the sophistication of digital media, MLF can see what a player can do when the player was involved in the season and at the combine via digital media. Gutekunst can talk to the prospect. What was reported recently is most of the prospects are well schooled on what to say and reveal little of their true selves. So rather than waste off-season time, MLF simply will work on things coming up after the draft.

*Named after the first TV draft guru Mel Kiper. Kiperized means placing undo influence on the importance of draft prospects, 50 percent of them wash out of the league before five years. The NFL professionals who make their livings from evaluation of talent are the ones to watch.

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LeotisHarris's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:27 pm

A lot of people, many, many people are saying Murphy nixed the Combine travel request. Unnamed sources confirmed LaFleur has a history of insisting on traveling alone via personal vehicle (generous mileage reimbursement), and that no one will willingly room with Steno. Ball is on record saying per diem savings alone are "nothing to sneeze at."

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MainePackFan's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:48 pm

LOL

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LLCHESTY's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:34 pm

The only reason it bothers me is not catching the interviews. You can bring players in but teams usually don't bring in many top players, they don't want to tip their hand. It's a good place to meet with them, ask them scheme related questions and see what kind of development lies in front for them.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:41 pm

Don't teams record these interviews?

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Coldworld's picture

February 27, 2023 at 06:09 pm

Do you pick up as much on zoom or in person?

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Leatherhead's picture

February 27, 2023 at 06:50 pm

An interesting question, since I could do one, or the other, but not both simultaneously, and so I wouldn't really have a frame of reference.

Among the many things we learned from the Coronavirus is that we don't have to go to work, we can stay home and work. There are many, many things that can be done from the comfort of your own home. It saves the time and hassle and expense of a commute. It's more efficient.

If selecting a player is hinged on the HC's impression of a video interview versus being there in person.....then that's an organizational problem, IMO.

Coaches should coach. Scouts should scout. Managers should manage. Players should play. Officials should officiate. Everything works best when everybody stays in their lane.

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Johnblood27's picture

February 27, 2023 at 10:39 pm

copy Murphy on your post...

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Heyward's picture

February 27, 2023 at 06:09 pm

According to somebody who looked very much like Brian Gutekunst last year, having the coaches meet with the players during the interview process is valuable. I guess LaFleur can spend the week putting in plays in March that Rodgers won't run in September.

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Qoojo's picture

February 27, 2023 at 02:53 pm

That's what the scouts and GM are for. 100s of prospects and a team might get to pick 5-11 of them. The only reason to go there is to speak with a prospect in person, but how many of them will a team have an actual opportunity to draft? The later the round, the higher the chance.

MLF probably is working on "his" playbook, now that there is a good chance that AR is leaving.

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Duneslick's picture

February 27, 2023 at 03:01 pm

Theres no reason they cant do both

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marpag1's picture

February 27, 2023 at 03:12 pm

Even if some coaches are not physically present in Indy, they can still participate in important interviews remotely.

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davekenya's picture

February 27, 2023 at 04:00 pm

Different strokes for different folks - from the 2023 Jags:

While some teams have opted not to send their coaches and general managers to the Combine, Jacksonville is sending both GM Trent Baalke and Doug Pederson. Last year, Baalke spoke about the value of being in Indianapolis rather than doing things via Zoom as they had during the coronavirus pandemic.

"The Zoom meetings — and just like these [interview] meetings — the Zoom meetings that we have with players or reporters or anybody else that you engage with just isn’t the same as being here when you get to touch and feel and talk to someone directly," Baalke said at last year's combine. "I think it is a huge benefit to be here.”

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marpag1's picture

February 27, 2023 at 04:17 pm

True enough. But Baalke is speaking as a GM, not a coach, and I think that makes a gigantic difference. I would absolutely expect the GM to attend the combine in person. I don't feel nearly as strongly about the coaches. Maybe zoom is enough for coaches.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 27, 2023 at 05:51 pm

Since the Coaches aren't going to Indy, their livers ought to be in tiptop shape for draft parties...

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Since'61's picture

February 27, 2023 at 04:05 pm

If we can hire our HC after one 2 hour interview we can draft our players after watching a tape and then having a cup of coffee with them. It's the no frills version of building a team. Why spend time or money on it? It's not like it matters if the Packers win the SB or not.

Whoever is selected in the draft is going to be over hyped, considered a great choice and a future HOFer. Then they will be overpaid on their second contract for making a few plays in the final season of their rookie contract when the Packers FO implements the "Nick Perry" gambit (Nick Perry the player not the CHTV blogger) to retain them beyond their alleged peak seasons. But "We're not idiots."

The beat goes on until Murphy retires. The only question is who will his hand picked successor be, Gute or Ball? The battle of the yes men continues.
Thanks, Since '61

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PackyCheese500's picture

February 27, 2023 at 05:23 pm

I think that is kind of lame for him not to go. He should be trying to help Gutey choose which players he ideally wants to coach.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 27, 2023 at 05:54 pm

Maybe MaLF gave him a wish list? You know, like little kids at Christmas... Wonder if Gutey patted him on the head before he left for Indy?

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Leatherhead's picture

February 27, 2023 at 07:03 pm

I'd be flabbergasted if Gutekunst , LaFleur, the scouts and coaches don't talk about this stuff extensively. By this time in the process, the film on every prospect is categorized so you can watch whatever you want, whenever, and people are.

Everybody, inside and outside of 1265, can plainly see we could use a starter at Safety, and some help at TE and WR. We need an Edge, with Gary out and Smith getting older. I'm sure that Gutekunst, and the other senior personnel people, are acutely aware of the kind people LaFleur would like. He's lobbying, I'm sure, and Gutekunst knows exactly who LaFleur likes, and why.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 27, 2023 at 06:53 pm

This smacks of a PR ploy - by management - to evade accountability for what was a disastrous season. By limiting or minimizing their public appearances - I think that they are hoping that the fans will eventually turn their attention away from them to the draft, free agency, outdoor activities etc. I'm still waiting for a postmortem for the season from Murphy, the Executive Committee and/the Board. However all seem to be laying low or hiding - with Rodgers literally going into seclusion. Meanwhile, the low man in the management hierarchy, "Gutekunst", has been served-up as the token spokesman. Probably with orders to talk a little but say even less. The Packers football community certainly deserves better than this sorry lot.

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PASSdaRELISH's picture

February 27, 2023 at 10:39 pm

Who here thinks we’re still going to see our corners still playing 10yds off the Wr’s on third and short’s in game 1 next season? I do.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

February 28, 2023 at 03:40 am

I agree with Phantom. Assistant coaches network at the combine, which teams would like to discourage. Not as clear on why a Head Coach shouldn't be present.

I think in-person interviews are worth their weight in gold.

It's probably good to find out if that QB prospect knows what a nickel defense is, or which routes are man-beaters.

It is good to assess whether a prospect has a good work ethic, and can take coaching, and how they deal with criticism.

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marpag1's picture

February 28, 2023 at 04:41 am

Fair enough, but the question is not "are interviews important." The question is, "Is it important for coaches to be at the combine." Other people can do interviews at the combine, not just coaches. And there are also other venues outside of the combine (such as team visits and school pro days) where coaches and FO can conduct interviews, and many of these other venues actually allow far greater access than a 20-minute time slot at the combine.

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Packerpasty's picture

February 28, 2023 at 08:23 am

Packers must trust their scouts and assistant coaches or else MLF would probably be there...doubt that theres a real need for a head coach to attend, many don't....the players they target can be brought in for interviews or have the interviews taped for MLF...no need for the head cheerleader to attend and screw things up..

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