Davante Adams "Unlikely To Play" vs Cardinals

ESPN's Rob Demovsky reports that the second year wide receiver has a a sprained MCL in his right knee.

Rob Demovsky has the goods.

Obviously, Adams has had a disappointing 2015 campaign, but he was finally showing signs of settling down and making the plays presented to him the last few weeks.

The Packers will undoubtedly lean on second year pro Jared Abbrederis more in their three wide receiver sets in Adams' absence. 

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 12, 2016 at 10:48 am

This is not good news. Adams the last 2 games really stepped up and was playing with much improved confidence.

That being said, I feel confident that Abbrederis will be able to play well. He has earned Rodgers trust and I think will be able to make plays.

I think they are going to have to find ways to use Janis too. Whether they have to limit his route tree or whatever it take, he will have get on the field as well.

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Bearmeat's picture

January 12, 2016 at 12:55 pm

I want them to win of course - but I'd settle for a close game. The year isn't a complete failure - as long as they don't look pathetic this week.

As badly as he's played this year, Adams being out hurts. He has more athletic potential outside than any of the WRs on the roster not named Janis. And Janis apparently is so raw that he isn't usable.

The WRs will get a massive shot in the arm from the return of Jordy next year, but a HWS outside WR drafted highly wouldn't hurt - nor would a HWS TE. :)

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pacman's picture

January 12, 2016 at 02:48 pm

How is it that Janis is so raw. How could he be in the NFL and not be able to catch a long pass? He is the kick returner so he can obviously catch a ball!!!

If he runs a straight long route he will draw 2 defenders as he will outrun short cover. That has to open the field if nothing else. And if they give him some room, he stops and comes back for a 10 yd gain.

All it takes is a QB that can throw a good lead pass. I would hope we have that.

Would someone tell me how having a speedster WR could not help at least as a decoy!

And I like the move the Aberderis put on the defender to get WIDE open on his TD reception. Maybe Adams has played well for 2 games but he was really bad before that - injured or not. But MM and AR stuck with him. I've already written off the season as a failure and hold little hope that this offense as banged up as it is could stand up to Arizona. So I am a little excited to see what I've been asking for actually happen. Of course if Janis drops passes, MM will be vindicated and I'll stop complaining:).

Added - I also recall AR once saying that he might have the best hands on the team. So this has been a huge ??? for me for a while.

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January 12, 2016 at 02:38 pm

I think it depends on how well a WR like Janis or any of our other WR's can get off the Jams in man coverage. Guys like Cobb and Abby can straight up juke a guy out of their cleats...but Cobb is doubled AND Jammed which puts it on others (Abby). JJ is slower but can make contested catches a lot of times no matter how he is played...just needs to be a little more consistent. Either way for this next game I think they should involve Quarless a bit more. Looking down the road at WR I think we need a big, fast higher round WR that can straight up manhandle Jams at the line...then let our plethora of slot guys work the underneath slants and crossing routes.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 12, 2016 at 02:52 pm

One day we will find out why he had not been utilized. Had to be something he did. Hasn't fumbled, but must be something that Rodgers or McCarthy dislike, a lot.

Maybe he will have a break out play or two this week, and someone will inevitably ask where have you been? Wouldn't count on it as Jones, Cobb and with Adams out, most likely, Abby will get all the targets.

Would not mind being surprised though and see Janis have a role other than returns.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 12, 2016 at 05:05 pm

Maybe he is just not that good yet? Why would the Packers have some kind of bias against him. They kept him on the team.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 14, 2016 at 12:48 pm

Could be but on the limited plays we have seen, he has looked pretty good. Certainly no worse than others that have played. I think it is they are bringing him along slow, as a plan, one that they are definitely sticking to. Just seems they are more inflexible than usual.

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Curry Rambeau's picture

January 12, 2016 at 04:46 pm

"And I like the move the Aberderis put on the defender to get wide open on his touchdown reception." Did I miss something here? I thought Cobb and Adams caught touchdowns and Abraders caught a 2 point conversion after a touchdown. Starks and Lacy ran for the other two touchdowns.

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pacman's picture

January 12, 2016 at 06:58 pm

Yes, I meant the 2 point conversion.

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Dan Stodola's picture

January 12, 2016 at 11:22 pm

Catching while running is what Janis seems to have a lot more trouble with. I read or heard on a podcast about a month ago, that Janis had several bad drops in just one part of a practice. Its likely that wasn't a singular occurrence. Its also well known that his route running isn't up to par for an NFL WR. It takes more than just being able to run fast in a straight line to be a legitimate NFL deep threat. Took Jordy about 3 full years.

The fact that Janis isn't getting many snaps is a clear sign that he just is not ready to be an NFL WR. He has all the measurable, but is lacking most of the intangibles. Doesn't mean he won't become a good or better NFL WR, just that he isn't yet. Better off letting him develop on his own terms, than forcing him into a situation that he isn't ready for.

Everyone one wants to see him succeed but patience is a virtue. Let him proceed and succeed on his own terms, not the terms you want for him.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 13, 2016 at 06:55 am

Yeah, one practice he had 2 drops on simple passes to him.

We have gone back and forth on Janis most of the year Dan. And I think for the most part we agree about Janis.
Its obvious that Janis is still raw and not fully ready to be a big part of the offense. I still think that they need to find ways to get him in on the offense even though he is raw. Just for his speed alone.

But if Adams can't go, They are going to have to find ways to play him Saturday night. They have to be able to use 4 WR's at times in this game. It forces the defense to change its personnel and try to create mismatches with it. Not saying that he has to start or play 50+ percent of the snaps, just that they will have to find ways to use him.
If Janis has problems with certain routes, they need to limit them. Or if he struggles with reading the coverage's of defenses (which I'm assuming he does), can't they just have him run 4 routes only? For example have him run a slant/post, a go route, some sort of crossing pattern, and a bubble screen. Keep it simple for him.

Also sometimes players are just gamer's. They don't practice well but get into games and make plays. I remember hearing that he didn't practice well during training camp, yet when he played in games he made a ton of plays.

I completely agree that patience with him is huge. I think he has a bright future, just need to remember that he has a bigger learning curve then some other players.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 13, 2016 at 07:10 am

Very good and balanced opinion. I agree with you on this. Time will tell and I think Jeff Janis will replace Jordy one day!

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Tundraboy's picture

January 13, 2016 at 06:53 pm

Fair enough, but maybe we can hand the ball off to him in some situations, no?

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 12, 2016 at 11:17 am

Rodgers in the huddle every time: "Ok, Jeff, you go deep..."

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Amanofthenorth's picture

January 12, 2016 at 05:56 pm

Let the month of Janisuary begin

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J0hn Denver's Gavel's picture

January 12, 2016 at 07:37 pm

FTW!!

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 12, 2016 at 11:11 am

I hope Adams has learned some lessons this year. From what I have seen he has all of the talent but his attitude and work ethic are lacking. Hopefully this wasted year for him makes him hungry and he puts in the effort from here on out.

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Razer's picture

January 12, 2016 at 01:39 pm

Not heard of either attitude or work ethic issues. I do see a guy going 110% on special teams. I can't believe that he is a working hard on special teams and doesn't want to put the effort into a full-time WR opportunity. Did you hear this down at the pool hall?

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 12, 2016 at 02:15 pm

There was a lot of talk that he was behind the Video Games in the locker room disagreements, and that he was the focus of Rodgers questioning of work ethics. Which obviously we'll never know for sure.

But I do know what see see during the game. I don't really like his on the field attitude a lot of times this season. Bitching at the refs, looking for a flag all the time. I have seen wide angle shots of the field where he has quit before the play is over a bunch of times. The scowled look on his face at times when he is under preforming , dropping balls and quitting on routes that have at least once resulted in an interception. I don't know what Alex Van Pelt does during the game but he should have gotten that under control a long time ago.

Adams needs to shut up, stop acting like a spoiled brat and do his job. Thankfully, the last few weeks it seems like he has started to do that.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 12, 2016 at 02:54 pm

I've been very high (in expectations) on Adams, but I have to agree with this. I made a note to watch him at the end of the second Viking game, as we were driving for the tie. At the snap of the ball, he sort of jogged out on his route. I would hope the coaches and/or veteran receivers would call him on that.

The complaining to the refs drives me insane, but I think that's a product of lost confidence. Hopefully that goes away with further maturing and success. The rule of thumb always used to be that receivers take about three years to really adjust to the pro game, so I'm not giving up on him. But next year is a big year for him.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 13, 2016 at 12:53 am

Razer, Adams doesn't play special teams at all, IIRC. Football Outsiders lists Adams as having played a grand total of 1 snap on special teams all season.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts

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Dan Stodola's picture

January 13, 2016 at 03:15 am

His one ST snap came on an onside kick. They used his "hands" to be one of the primary catchers to where the kick would go. Almost 100% certain it was an onside kick. Adams is not on any regular ST in PR, KR, or covering either.

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J0hn Denver's Gavel's picture

January 12, 2016 at 11:27 am

"Mr January" turned cheerleader.

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zoellner25's picture

January 12, 2016 at 11:31 am

Smoke in mirrors....

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chugwater's picture

January 12, 2016 at 11:45 am

I will say this...if Rodgers gets time in the pocket like he did in Washington and Janus is on the field, I'd like him to throw it deep just to keep the Cards honest and open up the underneath

It's so much nicer when you can work the whole field.

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sheppercheeser's picture

January 12, 2016 at 11:52 am

Abby, suit up!

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EdsLaces's picture

January 12, 2016 at 12:04 pm

Let's go 84..

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Curry Rambeau's picture

January 12, 2016 at 12:29 pm

Next anybody up!

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FITZCORE1252's picture

January 12, 2016 at 01:29 pm

If Abby gets his snaps, I think at this point in time, that may be a slight upgrade. I like Adams, but i think Abby might give us a spark right now.

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Nick Perry's picture

January 13, 2016 at 05:48 am

Abby is an excellent route runner and is more quick than fast. With a week of practice who knows, maybe he'll contribute. Saturday Night will all come down to the Packers being able to run the ball and keeping themselves in 3rd and manageable. If Starks runs like he has most of the season AND holds onto the ball, and Eddie is fired up and get's involved early, that could be the difference in the game. They have to control the ball and clock.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 12, 2016 at 01:45 pm

Figures. He makes some plays the last two games, and of course we lose him. Man this has been some frustrating year. At least Abby will finally get more looks.

Hope Rollins and Randall play. Shields would be a bonus.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 12, 2016 at 03:22 pm

Pretty crazy. From the start of training camp, we will be without our #1,3,4 WR.

We desperately need Rollins to play. At this point Shields would be a bonus.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

January 12, 2016 at 01:39 pm

Maaaaaan, f*#k! *fights the air*

The bench players (WRs) are good players, but I'm nervous to see them in expanded roles. It might be unfair to ask them to do so much so early and under these circumstances.

I'm not so much worried about Abby, Rodgers likes him and he knows where to be and how to get open. But when he takes a breather - who goes in? Janis? A TE?

Where has Quarless been???

Without Adams (who poses as a somewhat of a threat) we're going to really need A+ games from Rodgers and ....well, pretty much the entire Offense.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 12, 2016 at 01:47 pm

I'd like to think this is the week we finally get a break or two. We deserve it.

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Nick Perry's picture

January 13, 2016 at 05:50 am

3 Thumbs up for that one TB!! The Packers "DESERVE" a friggen break!

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Tundraboy's picture

January 13, 2016 at 06:55 pm

Yes and I'll even settle for no drive or 1st down killing borderline penalties.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 12, 2016 at 03:25 pm

Yeah I think they will try to be more multiple in their looks.

I do expect to see Abbrederis play a lot. But I think we will see more of what we saw against Washington. Multiple looks and personnel groupings.

Probably see the RB's used more in the passing game.

Starks has to be big in this game. He can provide a huge lift to our passing game taking passes out of the backfield.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

January 12, 2016 at 03:56 pm

Yea, I like Starks when he catches the ball.

Something I just thought about...

The Cards have Deon Buchanan. The Cobra formation either won't work at all or have very little impact. Buchanan plays LB and Safety so it gives the Cards so much flexibility. UNLESS Cobb has the game of his Life - it's hard to see him having a big game.

With the #2 (or #3) WR being out does putting Cobb in the backfield hurt the Offense?

I know one thing -- if the coaches (and players) can pull this off the confidence will be through the roof.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 13, 2016 at 08:13 am

I think in this game using the run game but also using the RB's in the passing game (essentially the same thing as running the ball) will be huge in keeping the pass rush from taking off.

Yeah, Buchanon really makes their defense different. He is small for LB, but essentially he is a 3rd safety.
I think one way to make better use of Cobb in the backfield is to do more misdirection type of stuff... Maybe bring him there with Starks. Have one go one way have the other go the other way. Similar to what they did against the Cowboys. Create confusion for Arizona.

I do question how much they will be able to use Cobb into the backfield now though missing Adams. Perhaps it would be a good time to put Janis in and have him run a go route and take a shot deep. I think odds would be pretty good that he would be left in single coverage.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

January 13, 2016 at 02:58 pm

Man, I did NOT know Carson Palmer only had 2 Playoff games and he's lost BOTH of them.

We might have a little edge Offensively. If Dom has any special tricks up his sleeve this might be the game to use them.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 13, 2016 at 06:59 pm

Starks can be big if they run him and Lacy alternately versus just one for each series. That was a great change of pace last week.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 12, 2016 at 03:14 pm

On another note is "Donald Trumps" AKA "ThompsonTWins" banned? His profile is now gone http://cheeseheadtv.com/green-bay-packers/fans/thompson-twins

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EdsLaces's picture

January 12, 2016 at 03:44 pm

That would be awesome .

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 12, 2016 at 09:33 pm

Yeah, I notice the tone is back to football around here.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 13, 2016 at 10:38 am

And a lot less disliked comments...

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barutanseijin's picture

January 12, 2016 at 05:59 pm

Yes, Jersey Al lost his patience with him a few days ago.

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Nick Perry's picture

January 13, 2016 at 05:52 am

Yup he was "FIRED"! Way to step up Al.

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Wenis's picture

January 12, 2016 at 06:44 pm

aka InTedITrust, Goldfinger etc, etc, etc......

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Tundraboy's picture

January 12, 2016 at 09:51 pm

Yay. It was exhausting to scroll through all his posts.

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porupack's picture

January 12, 2016 at 11:35 pm

Thankfully. His constant insults of other posters degraded the site, and I began questioning whether this forum was worth coming back.
I appreciate this site if it can be passionate, argumentative, but civil. And cheers to all the writers to provoke 200+ comments. Cheers to the diverse and outlandish opinions. all good fun.

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lou's picture

January 12, 2016 at 04:21 pm

Adams showing Sunday was not a surprise. All of last year he was up against a nickel or dime back consistently because of Nelson (taking the top off the defense) and Cobb's level of success that dictated more coverage towards them. Sunday with the Redskins depleted secondary (Blackmon was not only starting but at CB not safety - much less starting at all) which gave Adams a similar look like last year and like last year under those circumstances he showed well. Adams has talent, by this time next year we will know if it is at #3 or #4 WR (Mongomery' will have one or the other) and based on his absence if he does not play Saturday we will also have a better reading on both Abby and Janis as to where they can be projected. Kick it off, lets GO.

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CallingIt's picture

January 12, 2016 at 04:31 pm

Two bonuses from all these injuries, one, rookies are gaining valuable experience and two, we see who can't be relied on. (fill in the blanks for yourselves)

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DrealynWilliams's picture

January 12, 2016 at 05:22 pm

One game isn't the end all. Especially for rookies - 2 years experience.

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sonomaca's picture

January 12, 2016 at 04:52 pm

Maybe time to get Quarles more involved. Lot of options with two TE's on the field.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 12, 2016 at 09:52 pm

We have two?

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Grandfathered's picture

January 13, 2016 at 01:51 am

I thought Perillo was more valuable to the offense than Quarless has been.

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Nick Perry's picture

January 13, 2016 at 05:56 am

I agree, I haven't seen Quarless involved in the passing game at all. I like Quarless at TE a little more just because he's a little faster.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 13, 2016 at 06:54 am

I don't dislike Perillo or Rodgers but it's hard watching them run, it's like watching the game in slow motion. We need a true passing threat and for now, that's Quarless. He's on roster so use him if he's able to play anywhere near his abilities. My gut tells me we will see him more this week.

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sonomaca's picture

January 12, 2016 at 05:01 pm

I don't think the Cards would worry too much about Janis deep. However, maybe design something simple for him, get him the ball in space. Janis' speed could do major damage. I don't really care if Rodgers likes him or not. This shouldn't be about who's in the "cool kids" clique with Rodgers.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 12, 2016 at 09:53 pm

I for one would like to see that.

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Amanofthenorth's picture

January 12, 2016 at 06:00 pm

I think Adams will play

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DrealynWilliams's picture

January 12, 2016 at 06:55 pm

MCL injury...

With how conservative the Pack are with injuries to players outside of Rodgers and Matthews - I don't expect Adams back this season.

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jh9's picture

January 12, 2016 at 09:27 pm

I know this doesn't have anything to do with Adams not playing per se… But as I was watching the Clemson/Alabama game, one player just jumped out at me and I couldn't help but say:"That's a guy I would like to see in a Packers uniform." And that player was O.J. Howard, the Alabama TE. He's 6'6" 242 lbs. and fast. He had 5 receptions, 208 yards, 2 TDs, including a 63 yard TD.
What a target for AR and weapon he would be for Packers. He's a Junior so I expect he'll declare for the draft.

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porupack's picture

January 12, 2016 at 11:37 pm

I thought the same thing. How badly GB offense misses a playmaker at TE.

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dobber's picture

January 13, 2016 at 05:31 am

I think you could have stopped at the word "playmaker".

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Nick Perry's picture

January 13, 2016 at 06:06 am

Same thing with Hunter Henry, the TE from Arkansas. He's even better.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=127273&draftyear...

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croatpackfan's picture

January 13, 2016 at 07:26 am

Packers has Mitchell Henry on the PS, 6-4, 252. They reaslly thinks a lot of good about him. Denver stole him from Packers before the season, but was released because of Denver needs related to the in juries. Packers grab him immediatelly! Maybe he will be answer next year?

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croatpackfan's picture

January 13, 2016 at 07:20 am

If he enters draft he will be first round choice. Do not expect to fall all the way down to the Packers...

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Dan Stodola's picture

January 13, 2016 at 01:37 pm

As of now OJ Howard is considered a late 2nd or 3rd round pick. He's fast and great ht and length but outside that one game, albeit the biggest game of his life, he has very little production. He's an athlete only at this point. He's going to have a long learning curve.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 13, 2016 at 08:25 am

I have been high on Howard for a while. He is the pass catching TE the Packers could really use. He reminds me a lot of Finley. But watching him the other night his speed really stood out. I knew he was fast, just didn't know he was that fast.

If he does come out for the draft, and if the Packers did draft him, imagine the difference a player of his skill set could be for our offense. When you throw in the fact that we will already be getting Nelson, Montgomery back next year, and then to add in a player with Howards ability.

Right now I have been hearing Howard should be a 2nd-3rd round pick based on his past performances. But I'm going to guess after his last game and a really good performance at the Combine he could possibly reach the first round especially with his high ceiling.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 13, 2016 at 09:24 am

Oh well doesn't look like we would have a chance. Maybe we can package some picks and move up this year. Been awhile since we've done that.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 13, 2016 at 09:50 am

Well with the Packers picking at the 31st pick this year I think they will be right in position to take Howard (assuming he comes out), if they wanted to.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 13, 2016 at 12:30 pm

31st? Am I missing something? A prediction involved?

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 13, 2016 at 12:45 pm

Yeah, there are only going to be 31 picks in the first round this year due to New England forfeiting their pick.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 13, 2016 at 07:02 pm

Like that way of thinking.

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LASVEGAS-TOM's picture

January 12, 2016 at 10:02 pm

Tarynfor12, What's your take on the game Saturday??

LVT

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porupack's picture

January 12, 2016 at 11:57 pm

Remember the days when GB threw to 9-10 different receivers during the course of one game?
That is how GB can make some offense in AZ.

We're already playing with 'house money' as expectations bottomed out mid-season....so the best chance is go a bit unconventional beginning with play #1. Send a message for 60 minutes and dare the AZ to match wits. Nick Saban/Alabama took high risks on National prime time for the grand prize, b/c he admitted that he was loosing a conventionally played game.
Why does no one use the KR lateral, considering the reward vs risk if designed that a failed lateral would go out of sideline? Practice it so it can be executed, then do it on opening drive. Jeez. Strategize to friggin win against a superior activated roster, and if you don't, well, so be it. I'd respect the team for a blitzkrieg mentality.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 13, 2016 at 07:23 am

I do not think that Arizona has better roster than Packers. It is just the question of self confidence...

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Dan Stodola's picture

January 13, 2016 at 01:43 pm

If the Packers were healthy, aka Jordy,Shields, the entire OL, the talent is pretty equal. Packers aren't healthy and AZ has a significant edge in team speed. They are a bad matchup for the Packers.

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