Cory's Corner: Offensively Inconsistent

Packers come out flat again at home. 

I don't know why so many people are surprised. 

The Packers have been conistently inconsistent this season. They have rarely had all three phases of the game playing well at the same time.

But Green Bay once again found a way as the Packers secured a 24-20 win over the woeful Jaguars. 

"People aren't goign to just lay down," said Packers coach Matt LaFleur. "You've got to come ready to work each and every day in order to get the results that you want."

But unlike the first four games of the season when Green Bay averaged 25 first downs a game, the Packers could only muster 16 — the lowest winning output this year. Four of the Packers first five possessions ended in punts. The Packers were favored by 13.5 points heading into this game and the Packers made the Jaguars look like they were fighting for a playoff spot. But in reality, the only thing the Jags are fighting for is the No. 1 pick. 

"It kind of felt out of synch all game," said LaFleur.

You could say that. Aaron Rodgers didn't have two straight completions until the 4:21 mark of the first quarter. To make matters worse, left tackle David Bakhtiari did something he rarely ever does. He was ticketed with a false start on Green Bay's second possession — his second penalty of the season. In his eighth season, Bakhtiari only has 60 penalties, just one of the reasons the Packers made him the highest-paid offensive lineman in NFL history by giving Rodgers' blind side blocker a four-year deal worth $105.5 million, including a $30 million signing bonus. 

But for all of the criticism surrounding this team's defense, that unit actually wasn't that bad. It only allowed 13 points and seven of those points were due to a short field becuase of Davante Adams' fumble, which started the Jaguars drive at the Green Bay 16. Jacksonville was just 4-for-13 on third down and it only allowed 4.3 yards per play. 

Yet for all of those things, the 7-2 Packers sit atop the NFC as the No. 1 seed. Green Bay has been sloppy offensively since the Vikings loss in Week 8. They need to get back to their presnap movement. That shouldn't be dictated with the loss of Tyler Ervin to a rib injury. Green Bay needs another Swiss Army Knife that can do it all. Ervin's stats are nothing special this year, but he gives the Packers another offensive dimension that defenses have to worry about.

The Packers are a very good football team, but there is still plenty of meat left on the bone. 

 

 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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edp1959's picture

November 17, 2020 at 06:36 am

You obviously didn't watch the game very well if you feel the defense didn't play that bad. A better QB would have won this game because of the defense. Watch the game again and tell us how many bad passes were made to wide open receivers in the secondary that would have resulted in large gains. The Jags offense only scoring 13 wasn't because of this "fantastic" defense.

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Archie's picture

November 17, 2020 at 07:58 am

My sentiments exactly.

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LambeauPlain's picture

November 17, 2020 at 09:11 am

Jags are the 25th ranked Offense. I would say the D didn’t play all that good.

But the D at least outplayed the O. The Jags D is the second worst in the NFL.

The Pack has played two good teams this year...Saints and Bucs. Got by the Saints and were destroyed by the Bucs.

Sunday vs Colts will be a good barometer.

They really only have 2 more good teams remaining on their schedule...Colts and Titans. Expect the “pretender” label again this year if they don’t defeat both.

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 17, 2020 at 09:14 am

The 'pretender' label is already attached because of the lacking of a run defense, and losses to Colts, Titans or other because of the inability to stop the run will make the 'pretender' label an embedded reality, and the tool playoff opponents will adapt to higher levels.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

November 17, 2020 at 01:37 pm

They will destroy the Colts and beat the Titans by 10.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

November 17, 2020 at 01:36 pm

The D only gave up 2 FGs and the longest drive was 43 yards.
Special teams and Rodgers gave up the TDs (you can't blame the D for a 13 yard drive after a truly horrendous pick).

The D was truly great Sunday and operated just as it planned. Bend and don't break and get the big stops on 3rd down (which they have done all season).

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NickPerry's picture

November 17, 2020 at 06:42 am

"They need to get back to their presnap movement. That shouldn't be dictated with the loss of Tyler Ervin to a rib injury."

This is what drives me crazy some games. WHY in the hell can't Aaron Jones play the role of Ervin from time to time, or Jamal Williams? Some games they just aren't using as much which is mystifying considering how well it works, but the moment Ervin is hurt it STOPS...Literally!

It's happened more than once, last week especially, where if Rodgers does the little touch pass forward as Ervin ran by, he'd STILL be running the edge was so open. WHEN Rodgers runs this offense EXACTLY the way it's designed, it seems damn near unstoppable. When he tends to hold the ball, looking for the "Bigger" play downfield is where drives stall.

BTW...Taylor Gabriel is still a FA and unsigned. IF Ervin is going to be out a minute, hell even if he's not, he'd be worth bringing in and taking a look. He KNOWS the offense and would be ideal as a fill in until Ervin is back. Either that or MLF needs to figure out how to keep ALL that presnap motion going until he's back...PLEASE!

Gabriel isn't or doesn't need to be a focal point by any stretch, but the threat of his speed has to be accounted for, especially in Ervin's role in this offense.

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PeteK's picture

November 17, 2020 at 08:08 am

I'm surprised that he's still available, wanted to sign him before the season started .

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PatrickGB's picture

November 17, 2020 at 08:29 am

I read somewhere that the fly sweep isn’t as easy to do as one would think. Just having a fast guy or RB running it doesn’t always work well. So the team can’t just plug a play anyone in there.
I think that the Packers surprised a lot of teams at the start of the year but defenses adjusted. I also think that Matt may have over adjusted some of his game plans while Mike did not adjust at all.

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dobber's picture

November 17, 2020 at 08:41 am

"WHY in the hell can't Aaron Jones play the role of Ervin from time to time, or Jamal Williams? "

Because they need that guy in the backfield to be the threat to run the ball on the counter or up the gut. Shepherd seemed to be the next in line for that sweep action, but he's hurt and was only on the roster because Lazard was hurt...so when Lazard is activated today, Shepherd might be going on IR or back to the PS.

But I agree whole-heartedly: this offense works best when they're putting players in motion and forcing the defense to give away coverages and guess what they're going to do. When the Packers lose that part of their game, the offense becomes much more ordinary.

"He KNOWS the offense and would be ideal as a fill in until Ervin is back."

With Shepherd and Ervin both injured, this move makes too much sense to actually happen...but Gabriel has opted out of 2020 due to Covid. Still a player LIKE him would be helpful. He just needs to fit into a small package of plays to be a threat...just like Ervin was when they brought him in mid-season last year. If that player could return kicks/punts, even better.

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Thegravedigger's picture

November 17, 2020 at 11:38 am

Ted ginn jr?

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canadapacker's picture

November 17, 2020 at 01:45 pm

Shepard will be back and active if he it is only a minor injury and he would be back before Swerve's injury is healed. Remember he was the punt returner until those 2 braindead moves a year ago and he filled in for Swerve before he got hurt. Dont like the other options on the Punt return and after the way our special teams played dont think that we should fool with them too much especially if Sheps is ready to catch the ball back there.

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NickPerry's picture

November 18, 2020 at 06:25 am

"but Gabriel has opted out of 2020 due to Covid."

Well crap, I totally missed that part. I checked real quick to see if he was signed and it said he was a FA. I MISSED the opt out part...Thanks dobber.

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dobber's picture

November 18, 2020 at 01:38 pm

I guess if you're not on a roster, you're opting out by default... ;)

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 17, 2020 at 09:22 am

I really like Ervin and what he brings to the offense. But they do need to have another guy that can fill that role when he can't play. I don't know if Seth Roberts could fill that role?

I thought maybe that is why they brought up Winfree off the PS to fill that type of role?
Hopefully they can find someone, anyone that can fill that role.

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Roadrunner23's picture

November 17, 2020 at 07:21 am

On offense: Rodgers-Adams-Lazard-MVS-Tonyan-Jones-Williams and a really good O Line, the offense be ok. They had a down game but pulled it out when they had to.

On Defense: I just cant understand what they are coaching? It's like every man for himself. "Grab, grab, grab, what the hells going on out there?!" They need aggression, 11 hats to the ball! That is not happening, WHY?! A good QB would have torched them. Come on Pettine, surprise us and right the damn ship on Defense! RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!

On Special Teams: The J K Scott/Mennenga era may be at an end after the season, the punting unit is terrible and the rest of Special Teams is far from special. It's like a victory when special teams does nothing to hurt the team. Come on Mennenga, get aggressive! Pussy.

Love this team: Even with the warts the Packers are 7 & 2 and First Place. Now if the Packers want to be in it to win it come playoff time, they have to start playing Big Boy Football. Turn up the volume boys! That is all.....

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splitpea1's picture

November 17, 2020 at 11:18 am

We haven't had an top-notch special teams unit overall since the Holmgren era; apparently another non-priority for the FO. And I've rarely seen them aggressive as far as blocking kicks go in all my time as a Packers fan. It's really a shame, because a complete, well-coached ST unit (aside from the kicker) can be a tremendous asset and help you win close games.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

November 17, 2020 at 01:39 pm

Not true.
ST mean nothing in the modern NFL that has basically gotten rid of kickoff returns.
That's fully HALF of special teams taken away.
And it's not on Scott, who was punting low as one should in high wind.
It was the coverage unit, not the punter.

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Roadrunner23's picture

November 17, 2020 at 07:24 am

and another damn thing....Regarding the Quiet confines of Lambeau: It will be several weeks to the next home game lets get some creative life in Lambeau!!!!!!! Murphy and your army of tech nerds wake the F up and get Lambeau PUMPING man!
Use those expensive Video screens to zoom groups of fans (ok small groups) and cheer the Packers on virtually! Crank up the Polkas! Packers PR Dept get creative and use your assets!
Get off your lazy Azz and figure out ways to pump some damn energy into the stadium, where is the creativity.
DON'T MAKE ME COME DOWN THERE!

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deerskinlake's picture

November 17, 2020 at 10:05 am

They are too busy with their cheese and wine in packer management. They suck.

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stockholder's picture

November 17, 2020 at 07:29 am

Bitch, Bitch, Bitch. I see no reason to worry. Especially about the offense. The Win was a win. The Defense is the problem. Their job is to get the offense the ball back. Not the bend but don't break. Why can't you see the Help wanted?

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 17, 2020 at 07:44 am

The defense did its job. They gave up 1 TD which was after Adams fumble and the Jags started on the 16 yard line.

They gave up 6 other points the rest of the game. 3 of the points came after Rodgers interception.

The defense gave up 13 points in the game. And they closed out the game with a win. They did what they had to do, to win the game.

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Coldworld's picture

November 17, 2020 at 09:09 am

The defense did not make this game close, but they were again poor against the run. If one looks at the opponent, I believe that there is plenty to be concerned about in how they allowed 7 yards per carry in the first half. This isn’t a one off, just that the weakness of the Jaguars’ offense highlighted how ineffectual the run D was.

Equally, a bad D did a decent job of disrupting our O following the 49er/Tampa/Vikings recipe. Our O line again seemed completely unable to open running lanes.

Adams had a bad day by his standards, but I was surprised at how the officials allowed him to be roughed up and players fo have off days. Not worried about Adams beyond his injury. I also believe that we saw why Shepherd is ahead of EQ. Fortunately MVS stepped up. Despite that caveat, we seemed not to have a plan to combat that defensive approach.

Yes the wind was a big factor, but I think perhaps we are feeling the loss of the HBack component and a game in which Dillon would have been helpful. The O will be fine but the game planning has some areas that need addressing in case we face similar circumstances.

The final reason for disgruntlement is the lack of fire. Once happens, but it is twice in 3 weeks. That should never happen, especially on a winning team. Of all the issues, that may in fact be the most concerning about this regime. Any coach that can’t consistently motivate his players to play is likely to have a short career. Too much cleverness and empathy and not enough fire?

So yes, it’s good to win. But that was a win that highlighted two real issues, motivation and run D against a very poor O.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 17, 2020 at 11:45 am

They gave up 109 rushing yards on 23 carries. An average of 4.7 yards per carry. Yes, not great, but wasn't blown away by their run game either.

Adams will be fine. But we have to point out he had a bad day. 2 drops and a fumble. He had 2 TD catches, though 1 was taken away.

As for the fire, I don't know if it was or wasn't there. I missed the game live until the 3rd quarter. Sometimes when you watch things live your emotions are different then rewatching the game. I watched the part I missed afterwards and I didn't see the lack of fire honestly.
Let me ask, if Rodgers hits Tonyan on that opening drive and they go down and score right away are we talking about lack of fire?
I think it was a lack of execution more then lack of fire to be honest.

Robinson is averaging 4.4 yards per carry on the season. He averaged 4.7 against GB. He didn't control the game against us. Not sure what else to say about it.

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Thegravedigger's picture

November 18, 2020 at 07:09 pm

He wouldve tied the game if we didnt get a gift holding penalty. The d did tighten up in the second half.

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Thegravedigger's picture

November 17, 2020 at 11:50 am

Jace was playing Hback last year. Why not go back to it? And maybe its time to start rashan gary. If winning doesnt motivate p smith, maybe being a backup will. They gotta find a way to motivate these guys. That arm tackle by p smith was a fuckin joke. He looked like a blocking back with sticks for arms. Get off the damn block dude. There was countless plays in that game in which the jaguars just missed passes on 3rd down. And we got a gift holding penalty to wipe 7 off there board. Get angry fellas. You have the ability and the gifts to play nfl football for a living. Id kill for that. And drew brees is down, the ravens are kind of off, the chiefs are still the chiefs of course but theirs not that many teams in the way of a chip. Go fuckin get it. If not, yall will definitely look back and see a lackluster effort as one of the reasons u failed.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 18, 2020 at 04:44 am

Maybe Ben Fennell is correct when he wrote yesterday that Sternberger is losing snaps due to terrible blocking and terrible technique. I confess that I haven't notice it but I wasn't really following Sternberger, whose blocking seemed better than expected last year.

https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1328475465242333185?s=19

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SpikeHyzer's picture

November 17, 2020 at 01:40 pm

The D that only gave up 2 FGs and a long drive of 43 yards is bad?
Ok....

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Leatherhead's picture

November 17, 2020 at 02:18 pm

I'm going to just inject a little bit of reality here.

In 12 possessions, Jacksonville had one drive end in a TD following a 16 yard drive following a turnover.

In the other possessions, they either punted, turned it over, or kicked a FG (twice)

So the defense did "their job" and got the ball back to the offense. So what's the problem?

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 17, 2020 at 07:29 am

This game the offense just seemed to be a bit off. For whatever reason.
Adams had a couple of dropped passes and the fumble. They had some untimely penalties.

The first possession Rodgers just misses Tonyan which could have been a huge gain. The 2nd possession they maybe would have went for it on 4th and short, but they called Turner for the illegal chop block making it 3rd and 17. The 3rd possession Adams doesn't hold onto the pass to convert a 1st down.

it wasn't until the 4th possession that they finally made a play on offense.
They are up 14-10 get the ball back right before half time. Its 3rd and 17 with 19 seconds left. They score a TD but called back because of a holding call on Turner. I consider that to be a weak ass call. So instead of being up 21-10 at halftime they are up 17-10.

The offense was just off all day. But they made the plays they needed to, to get the win. That is all that matters.

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 17, 2020 at 08:08 am

No matter how its spun, playing this level of football against the level of football the Jags put on the field with a two game inexperienced QB is a one and done playoff scenario.

Make excuses or just deny what happens with this team, while enjoying the pretty record, but that's all you're likely to have again. This isn't a fluke, and all the Zoom fans won't change what seems inevitable and a possible repeat end of the 2011-12 season, losing to the low seed Giants after a one seed for GB in the Divisional round, who are starting to get some things together and have energy and don't quit attitude.

You can laugh now, but I didn't laugh in 2011-12, did you?

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PeteK's picture

November 17, 2020 at 08:19 am

We did resemble the 2011-12 offense after a few games ,but not lately. Also, our D is decidedly better now.

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Coldworld's picture

November 17, 2020 at 09:52 am

Not if the other team can run the ball. If they can our O is off the field and they don’t need to throw. That’s precisely what the Jags showed. A team truly challenged on O managed 7 ypc on the ground in the first half. What that showed is that the 49ers recipe from last year will work on Offense this year and that even a poor D can gum up the Packers run game.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 17, 2020 at 11:02 am

They didn't play well against the Jags. But in 2-3-4 weeks no one will even remember what happened in this game other then they won. Do we remember how they played against the Texans?

I'm not making any excuses or denying anything. I'm stating pretty much exactly what happened. What in my post is wrong?

With the way this year is going, I am taking it each week, one game at a time. We don't know if there will be a next game or when. We play the Colts this week. it will be a tough game. I'm not concerned with what happened in 2011 or 2012 or whatever other year you choose.

Lets be honest. Every team in this league is flawed. Tell me 1 team that is flawless. All I want is a chance for them to go and win it.

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deerskinlake's picture

November 17, 2020 at 10:06 am

If you do not mind maybe one playoff win this season then yes.... everything is fine.

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mrtundra's picture

November 17, 2020 at 08:13 am

The thing is, we should have walked all over the terrible Jags, and in Lambeau, no less. Instead we let them hang around until the last two minutes of the 4th quarter, when our DL stepped up, finally, to put the icing on the cake. We always seem to play to the level of our opponents. We did the same thing with the vikings. We let Cook run roughshod on us, with little, if anything changing, in our defensive game plan.. In the Jags, we let a rookie QB look like an all pro, for a while. Yes, a win is a win, but can't we have a blow out, ever?

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 17, 2020 at 09:41 am

They had their chance to move on from Pettine in the off-season. Now you have to live with it.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

November 17, 2020 at 01:43 pm

It's mostly why they didn't activate Lazard.
They were playing with their JV line up (esp at CB) and felt they could win.
At this time of year, health is a concern and most top tier playoff contenders already know where they will finish.
The first half of an NFL season is a sprint and the second a marathon to just barely keep winning and to stay healthy for the playoffs.
It's both a good and bad thing the Pack are already in that mode. They will win the division. They will likely be the top seed.
They played this game the way they did because they need to bring the heat against the Colts, whom I believe they will blow out badly.

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egbertsouse's picture

November 17, 2020 at 08:30 am

Yes folks, welcome to Groundhog Day. This franchise is what it is and is not likely to change. The business model is make this team just good enough to get into the playoffs and then use that extra playoff revenue to fund the next theme park or condo project or hotel. Then cross your fingers that every 10-15years you get lucky and your HOF QB catches fire during the playoffs or your opponents have major injuries and you somehow sneak into a Super Bowl. This is how a team has to operate when it doesn’t have an obnoxious billionaire owner to throw wads of cash around. But look on the bright side, we don’t have to suffer through a Jerry Jones press conference after every game.

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 17, 2020 at 08:59 am

"This is how a team has to operate when it doesn’t have an obnoxious billionaire owner to throw wads of cash around."

No billionaire owner gets to throw wads of cash around. You apparently have no idea how the salary cap keeps such from happening.

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WMA's picture

November 17, 2020 at 09:11 am

96 team did not sneak into the Super Bowl. They were dominant on both sides of the ball. Interesting it was a special teams player who was the MVP and not the HOF QB.

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deerskinlake's picture

November 17, 2020 at 10:10 am

This organization is run by a bunch of liberals in a liberal town. This is what you get. Too bad Mike Ditka wasn't hired to manage this team. You've got coaches on the Packers who spend more time waxing their eyebrows.... hello Coach Leflore.... then pouring over film and looking for top-notch coaches/ players.

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fastmoving's picture

November 17, 2020 at 01:45 pm

So you mean a conservative looooser in charge would not had filled for chapter 11, 50 years ago? Or the weak orange wig who runs everything into the ground, not just America?
Ditka got lucky one time in his life, Rex Ryan kind of guy, nothing to build something on.

Everything is right with the PACKERS and what they are all about and thats the only reason we are still exist. We field a good team most of the years and the best franchise at all. Dont know what else we could ask for.

Lombardi was ten times the Man Ditka and not just in the stadium.

Sounds like a great town, with great people in charge, with moral an brain. But what does Ditka and his fans know about that kind of stuff?
And MLF is already a better coach and person Ditka ever was. Dont know what the fat old guy is waxing but I rather leave it this way.

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PatrickGB's picture

November 17, 2020 at 08:37 am

The good news is that next week is an away game, Lazard will be back, Alexander will be back (and maybe King) and Matt gave the team a good talking to ;-)

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Coldworld's picture

November 17, 2020 at 09:54 am

Didn’t he give them a good talking to after the Vikings? It was portrayed as such. Hopefully he is getting better at those talks based on the lifespan of the first one.

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dobber's picture

November 17, 2020 at 08:44 am

This is starting to have the feel of a team that reads its own press clippings too much. Might be LaF's biggest challenge so far: making sure this team is ready to play its best ball on a weekly basis when they're favored pretty much every week.

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deerskinlake's picture

November 17, 2020 at 10:13 am

Yes right… Maybe if the entire defense instead of just a few would color their hair and perform belly dancing on the field before each game...

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Razer's picture

November 17, 2020 at 08:48 am

I'll add to what TarynFor12 said... this is a finesse team with a pretty record. Early in the year, we were giddy with this offense and its 35+ points per game. Points are not so plentiful these days so we keep pointing to the standings and our revenge over the 49ers. As many suggest - enjoy the ride... because winter is coming. I am looking for this team to punch back when it faces a team that likes to punch. Haven't seen it yet.

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deerskinlake's picture

November 17, 2020 at 10:14 am

Please, this team does not know how to punch.

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LambeauPlain's picture

November 17, 2020 at 09:08 am

There have to be coaching changes this year on D and STs regardless of what happens. Poor tackling, missed assignments, inconsistency, lack of toughness, poor discipline, lack of urgency. And I still believe the D has some good players and STs have many good athletes. P and K are OK...Scott needs better coaching.

And next year there will be many new players given a lower cap, players not being Re-signed, and a buyers market. Going to need better coaching for the new recruits. I think the O staff is set. Not the D or STs.

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Coldworld's picture

November 17, 2020 at 09:20 am

I’m willing to cut the ST some slack, there were a lot of regulars who were playing on O/D or out. It showed. If it repeats then certainly, but when depth you depth is playing and stalwarts injured as well these things can happen. Scott clearly struggled with the conditions, causing adjustments, which, with makeshift teams, is a recipe for error. Let’s see if this is an outlier.

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deerskinlake's picture

November 17, 2020 at 09:58 am

w

What I see when I watch the Packers is Mike McCarthy 2.0.
The same old crap… no pass rush no line backers worth a squat, high school tackling.
Rogers being arrogant and stubborn when needing a few yards to keep drives going and instead playing sandlot and throwing it over 10 yards to people who are not open.
weak but flashy receivers who are not physically tough and are easily tackled and can disappear in any game.
Tonyan is a real football player and he's the only one I enjoy watching on this team along with Jones every now and then.
Pffft.

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edp1959's picture

November 17, 2020 at 10:37 am

That arrogant QB as you say is the only reason this team has the #1 seed so keep on bitching about that. Let's see what happens in a few years when we see the 1980's Packers. How much will you and others bitch then?

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Rudedawg67's picture

November 17, 2020 at 10:33 am

The defense needs help. Would’ve made more sense to trade up in the first round to get Patrick queen or Kenneth Murray instead of picking a quarterback. Could’ve even trade it up to get Justin Jefferson. Look what that guy is doing with Kirk cousins throwing to him. You’re supposed to get better through the draft but this team has gotten nothing out of the first three picks. I can see Dillon doing something but that’s it. Hopefully when Alexander and King get back they can find a way to put some pressure on the quarterback. And maybe find a way to stop the run. If we don’t come playoff time a team with a stout defense and a good run game is going to be Green Bay again.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 17, 2020 at 11:01 am

Lots of static here, but RC Packer and Coldworld are closer to my thinking.

The “flat and out of synch” offense. This is going to sound overly simplistic, but good teams follow their leader. If he’s sharp, so are they. This is our third weak offensive showing in 9 games. We had multiple turnovers.

The Defense. This is an average NFL defense. If you go to the ranking charts at peofootballreference.com, and use the tools, you can see that this defense is somewhere between 20 and 10 in quite a few areas. Teams aren’t running over us any more than anybody else

In the most important measure, we’re 15th in scoring defense. That’s the bottom line.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 17, 2020 at 11:25 am

I just think the offense was a bit flat, but also just had bad timing of things.
Rodgers missed a few throws. On the first drive he just misses Tonyan. If he catches it, its at least a long first down and who knows what happens on that drive. Also he has the interception which I still don't know what happened on it. Why he was so far off.
Adams dropped 2? I know 1 would have been a first down. Also Adams fumbles the ball on a big play.
They had 2 badly timed penalties both by Turner. The one he basically got thrown into the DL which then became an illegal chop block. Well it went from a 4th and 2 (they likely go for it) to a 3rd and 17. The other one which was a holding penalty that negated a TD.

The offense was just off a bit. And when the game was on the line in the 4th quarter they made the plays they needed to score the game winning TD.

I'm curious if our defense does start to trend upwards a bit as we are entering the 2nd half of the season. We will be getting our starting CB's back sometime. Gary has been emerging. I think Jackson has been playing well at CB. Pettine is starting to figure out ways to use Savage. Kirksey just got back. Martin is still learning. I could see the defense improving some down the stretch.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 17, 2020 at 02:27 pm

The offense was just a bit off and our QB/leader was just a bit off. And that's fine, and it happens, and we still scored 24 and got the winning score when we needed it.

But in the playoffs, being a bit off ends your season. This defense is not going to hold a good opponent to 10, but I do think as the season progresses we'll move closer to where we were last year ....9th in Scoring Defense. Right now we're 15th.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 17, 2020 at 03:00 pm

I do agree with you. It is something they will have to figure out the why's. Was it the wind affecting throws? Was it something else. Not sure.

The good thing with this is its still only the middle part of the season. There is still room for improvement. They found a way to win and that is a good thing.

Lets not forget our defense was playing without 2 starting CB's and 1 being our best defensive player. They do make a big difference for our defense. People wonder where our turnovers have gone this year. Well Last year King had 5 Int's. He has missed more games then he has played so far. That is one reason why our defense doesn't have as many turnovers.
Also we will be getting Lazard back soon. Hopefully he can come back and play to the level he was prior to his injury, but either way he will be an upgrade over who we have been playing.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

November 17, 2020 at 01:45 pm

I too think those are two of the best fan commentators.
I've just added you to that list.
No need to panic and every reason to have some perspective.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 17, 2020 at 02:28 pm

Thanks, but I wouldn't want to belong to any group that would have somebody like me as a member.

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Duneslick's picture

November 17, 2020 at 12:23 pm

Ok The salary cap will be cut next year and there will be a lot of free agents. The free agent salaries will go down. Teams wont have the cap space. Why do we sign clark and Bak now ? Then i see and article that says gute wants to get as much cap as he can after the 2 big signings because there will be a lot of quality free agents. With what. Cap is predicted to be 175 M GB is at 198 m. None of this adds up. With cap hits i dont know how they even get to 175 even if they cut players. Those players cut will have to be replaced. No money it will have to be draft picks and UDFA and we know Gute doesnt draft well.

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Tedlyflyfisher's picture

November 17, 2020 at 11:52 pm

Jesus, Cory, if you’re going to write would you mind running a spellcheck on your work? “Conistently?” “Goign?” The sloppy writing here is really annoying.

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Thegravedigger's picture

November 18, 2020 at 07:24 pm

Grammar police? Yall still got a job? I thought they layed yall off cus of covid.

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