Cory's Corner: Jordan Love Has Backing Of Teammates

The Packers must choose between a first ballot Hall of Famer and a guy that might be the biggest question mark in the league. But if teammates believe...

Aaron Jones isn’t panicking about next season. 

While Aaron Rodgers is in the dark about what the future holds, Jones is confident if the Packers go ahead and give the reins to Jordan Love. 

“Jordan Love is ready,” Jones said on “Undisputed” with Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayless. “Jordan Love will be that guy. He made a huge jump this year. We seen it. In OTAs you could see it and it just kept snowballing and snowballing and snowballing.”

Of course, you can say that Jones is going to back a teammate. But the interesting thing about this is he doesn’t play both ends by also backing Rodgers. 

And the reason is because the team already knows. The Packers know what they want to do. Even if Rodgers emerges from his self-imposed hibernation from the light by saying that he wants to play again with the Packers, Green Bay holds the key because he is still under contract. 

And I highly doubt that Rodgers would hang up his cleats and retire in the same year as Tom Brady. That means that Rodgers and Brady would share the stage in Canton during the 2028 Hall of Fame Enshrinement. And I highly doubt that Rodgers would want to share a stage with someone that has seven Super Bowl titles to his one.

Which is why we are hearing this about Love now. And it’s also ironic that it’s coming from Jones, because if Rodgers comes back to Green Bay, the six-year running back likely won’t because he is due a cap hit of $20 million in 2023. 

So what do the Packers do? This decision can no longer be about ego and getting the value out of a guy that the team traded up to get. This simply has to be about if a guy that has started one game and only has 83 passing attempts in three seasons can play. 

I know that may sound crazy, but that is the long and short of it. If coach Matt LaFleur and general manager Brian Gutekunst are comfortable with what Love can do as a quarterback and leader, then it’s time. 

“He’s definitely athletic,” Jones said. “You don’t see him run as much but when something breaks down or he has to, he can go get it.”

The Packers are in a tough spot right now because they must choose between a first ballot Hall of Famer and a guy that has barely played. Heck, Love didn’t even dress for his entire rookie season. That’s beyond strange for a player that was taken in the first round, let alone a player that Green Bay thought so highly of to give up assets to attain him. 

Now obviously, if Love fails, several people will lose their jobs. Gutekunst gave Rodgers an extension as a band-aid because the Packers weren’t fully onboard with what Love could provide. 

“I feel like we will be just fine,” said Jones. 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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HarryHodag's picture

February 11, 2023 at 06:40 am

As I said yesterday, name Jordan Love the starter. Rodgers will freak and either want a trade or retire.
As Brett Favre's time in Green Bay needed to close, so has Aaron Rodgers' time.

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Coldworld's picture

February 11, 2023 at 08:00 am

You mean actually proactively shape our own destiny?

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Leatherhead's picture

February 11, 2023 at 04:12 pm

Isn't that was the organization has been doing ever since they started thinking about drafting Rodgers replacement? Didn't they spend time and money scouting him? They've spent time and money developing him.

That kind of sounds like proactive to me.

I know. You're still unhappy we didn't trade Rodgers last year, when we'd have gotten a lot. And you're also unhappy that his contract makes our cap situation more difficult.

I'm going to wait until after the trade to decide how much it cost us to keep him for another year. It won't be long now.

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HawkPacker's picture

February 11, 2023 at 08:11 am

Harry, I agree with you on this. If you think back to all the good years with Rodgers at the helm, it truly is kind of a sad time in GB to have to say good bye to Rodgers.

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Hematite's picture

February 11, 2023 at 09:11 am

Agreed!!!
Sure do wish my thumbs up/down worked.
Anyone have any suggestions?

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 11, 2023 at 10:32 am

Mine won't work if it is at the bottom of my screen, but if I scroll so it's up a bit higher, it works fine...

Hope this helps.

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Hematite's picture

February 12, 2023 at 07:22 am

Thanks for the advice!
I gave it a shot but unfortunately it didn't work.😡

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Oppy's picture

February 11, 2023 at 02:03 pm

First noticed this within the last two years. It's not just thumbs up/down, but any interaction with a button / link - trying to jump to articles, etc- if it's on the bottom 1/5 or so of the webpage, it's dead and doesn't actuate.

I assume it is a 'feature' that bleeds over from the mobile version of the site. On mobile, there's usually an obnoxious advertisement banner sprawling along the bottom 1/5 of the page with a very, very tiny "x" button in the top right corner to close it. If I had to venture a guess, there was probably an issue where when people were trying to hit the "close" button, or interact with the advertisement banner itself, any links hidden behind the banner were still able to be pressed, and people were complaining that they were jumping pages instead of being able to close the advertisement- so someone made an easy fix by placing a permanent invisible 'wall' on the lower part of the screen where the banners pop up that blocks any ability to interact with buttons or links in that area.. and the website scales up to PC version of the page, and it still exists.

Again, just my best guess. It's annoying but I've learned to cope.
I don't work in HTML, but I do design and program interfaces. I'd think it might be a better approach to create a flag that trips in the presence of a banner, and make the visibility of the dead zone object that blocks interaction dependent on the state of that flag.

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jont's picture

February 11, 2023 at 04:29 pm

I also notice some posts get 1/2 votes; it'll read 5.5+ and 1.5 -.

How does this happen?
Doesn't work for me, it's one or the other.

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PackyCheese500's picture

February 11, 2023 at 09:37 am

I would only do this if Rodgers comes out from his retreat wanting to be a Packer. If he wants to go to Vegas or NY, try to be as friendly as possible to Rodgers. He has done so much for our franchise after all, and if he wants to go somewhere else, there is no reason to try and aggravate him. I would like an amicable split.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 11, 2023 at 11:59 am

He also may consider the Tibetan Football League - where ayahuasca is not a banned substance.

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Racingdad's picture

February 11, 2023 at 02:26 pm

I agree be pleasant to him as he was a great qb for us for a long time , but he must GO. It’s time for Love and starting fresh , heal the cap , fresh ideas and a qb that actually runs his coach’s plays not his own - Because he thinks he’s smarter than everyone else , imagine a mobile qb again that also has a big arm , studied for 3 years and is ready for his time and can grow with his young receivers keep building the talent around him and gb will be contenders sooner rather than a doormat (80’s) for years

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Heyward's picture

February 11, 2023 at 12:18 pm

Have you met our leaders? I can't see Murphy, Ball, Gutekunst, and LaFleur trading Rodgers unless he asks for a trade. In fact, I'm afraid they'd be more likely to offer him another $150 million extension.

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stockholder's picture

February 11, 2023 at 06:52 am

If I'm a Packer Player. I'd want to be paid
And not keep reworking my contract.
Don't let the Love talk fool you.
The pressure to win will be gone.
The goal is money.
And if the friends go.
they split that up too.

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dobber's picture

February 11, 2023 at 10:47 am

"If I'm a Packer Player. I'd want to be paid
And not keep reworking my contract."

Just about every time a contract gets reworked, it's more bonus/guaranteed money in players' pockets--they're often getting paid money now that was part of their deal rather than later (or not at all). Under this CBA and modern cap management, this is the coin of the realm. Every agent and player knows it, and when they sign their deals, they usually have a good idea when and where those restructures will happen. If they didn't want contracts reworked, either contract structures would change or there would be more bad blood and it would happen far less often.

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stockholder's picture

February 11, 2023 at 10:52 am

Nobody loves contract negotiations. Nobody!

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 11, 2023 at 11:50 am

Agents do. It's how they exist.

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stockholder's picture

February 11, 2023 at 11:57 am

Look What happened to Hill or Montgomery.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 11, 2023 at 02:54 pm

Who?

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Coldworld's picture

February 11, 2023 at 01:54 pm

Love them if the outcome is in my favor. Mr Rodgers was probably fine with his last year.

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mjbrogno's picture

February 11, 2023 at 06:58 am

The time has come to move on from Rodgers. The growing pains will happen with love. There has to be some faith put in what the scouting staff saw in Love . I’m excited to see him play on a regular basis, give the young man a chance to show off his skills.

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mrtundra's picture

February 11, 2023 at 07:12 am

I keep reading about how Rodgers is a back-to-back MVP and if we trade him, how he could possibly get another MVP, somewhere else. Good luck with that! He will not get another MVP, in GB, playing the way he has the past season and a half. What if Love were traded and he went on to get the League MVP with his new team? Not likely, in his first year, as a starter, but down the road, the potential is there. I'd rather keep Love and look to our, and his, future than to keep Rodgers for a year too long and another year too late, to get anything for him, in a trade.

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HawkPacker's picture

February 11, 2023 at 08:12 am

Sadly, we may have already kept him a year too long!

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Hematite's picture

February 11, 2023 at 09:15 am

I'm in total agreement!
I really doubt that the Packers will get much for him in a trade.
They waited too long!

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dobber's picture

February 11, 2023 at 10:52 am

If all parties are in agreement for him to move on, and 12 agrees on a destination, I'll wish him well but won't really care if he earns another MVP or a SuperBowl. Same thing for Love. It's not the business of the Packers to promote titles on other teams.

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Racingdad's picture

February 11, 2023 at 02:44 pm

I so badly want to move on with love and start fresh growing with the young wrs , along with the other young players running the coach’s plays etc. while getting the cap healthy again and looking forward not trying to run it back again ( really stupid) I have been doing some research on love and he was ranked like third best qb and projected to be taken as high as 6th overall but it said he was still raw and needed time to grow - I think we are there -btw as soon as he was drafted by gb the knives came out from some but I believe they will be shown to be fools as were those who wanted Rodgers traded to keep farve!!!

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Philarod's picture

February 11, 2023 at 09:25 pm

Past season and a half?! Did the playoff game against the Niners count as 9 games?

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Johnblood27's picture

February 11, 2023 at 07:38 am

I think we all know what AR staying would look like. Looking into the future it looks even worse with the salary cap/roster decision ramifications of his future paydays.

What would the GBP look like if AR is traded?

Jordan Love at the helm, this is for certain.
Does AJ stay? I would certainly hope so, that keeps the biggest playmaker and a man of high character in the mix.
MLF will actually get to implement HIS offense - for the first time - so we will see what kind of coach he really is. He might surprise...
Dillon can get more handoffs with the QB under center.
The middle of the field becomes part of what the defense will actually have to defend.
Teammates will not have to walk on eggshells and look over their shoulders before speaking.
The GM's office can do their jobs without Mr Butinski asking for non-productive favors.
The team will not be put on display on McTanktops show anymore, creating less locker room stress.
Tom Clements will get to focus solely on Jordan Love and his development.
The GBP will most probably draft another young QB to develop. Maybe also get a vet backup for year 1 of JL.
A small percentage of fans will be apoplectic for a brief time. Too damn bad, they are not true GBP fans anyways. T-E-A-M!
There will be less national media attention on GBP football, this is a good thing IMO.
True GBP fans will acknowledge AR's greatness in his time in GB, wish him well, and look forward to his HOF induction in 6 years.

On to the next beautiful mystery...

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Hematite's picture

February 11, 2023 at 09:18 am

👍

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 11, 2023 at 06:35 pm

Ahem. This is, was, and has always been Matt LaFleur's offense. He calls ALL the plays.

Other than that, your assessment is sound.

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Johnblood27's picture

February 12, 2023 at 09:03 am

The playbook that MLF has been calling plays from since his hire has consisted of a hybrid of the MLF offense and AR's preferences.

This has been stated and reported ad nauseum since the MLF hire.

I do not believe that a total shotgun snap plan is part of MLF's offense, yet it is AR's modus operandi. That doesn't help the run game and cuts the deception in the backfield.

You might want to think that AR didn't dilute the MLF playbook, I will continue to believe otherwise.

I can't say that a pure MLF playbook would be more successful than a hybrid MLF-AR, but the saying about too many chefs spoiling the stew has merit.

I feel that some of the lack of adjustments comes from the barriers that a hybrid model imposes. With a pure model, adjustments flow from the main plan. With cobbled together plans, adjustments need to allow for two (or more) competing philosophies to be addressed in the change. Just IMO.

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 12, 2023 at 10:15 am

nothing prevents matt from running any plays he wants. he is the boss, no? if he's so weak that he can't run his own playbook, he should be fired.

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Johnblood27's picture

February 13, 2023 at 07:34 am

Cmon now Bitter, your comment is naive. MLF was hired to step into his role and to keep AR playing at a high level. In order to do so it was agreed by management that he develop a hybrid playbook by cooperating with AR, not becoming a dictator ruling with an iron fist.

The team wanted to keep AR, that was evident by the firing of MM instead of the trading of AR. That is where the team was in 2019.

Any HC that came to GB had to deal with creating a partnership with AR. That was not really in MLF's favor although he did get some MVP level performance from AR by doing so, but in the process the partnership became a bit too one sided, IMO.

MLF has come off looking weak and AR has come off as the Diva. A better balanced partnership would have left both of them looking better than they currently do. Who is to blame for that little issue? You do the math on that one....

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RichBeckman's picture

February 13, 2023 at 11:17 am

No. Murphy is the boss. MLF got the job when he agreed that keeping The
Ego happy was a high priority. When The Ego upped his needs (input into roster moves and MORE MONEY...he'll never get more rings than The Brady, but maybe he can have higher lifetime earnings!), the importance of obsequious behavior toward The Ego was certainly more highly stressed (and stressful!).

Murphy is the boss. Murphy and The Ego are the problems here.

Although a case could be made that if The Ego was gone, Murphy would suddenly become less of a problem.

The gravitational pull of The Ego distorts all within it's boundaries which is the entire organization.

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MooPack's picture

February 11, 2023 at 07:44 am

This NFL article shows the difference in a team change in WR philosophy of having the ONE guy at WR or having diverse skills at many and using them. Also shows the difference in a QB willing to work with the WR’s in the off season and one not. One is going to SB, the other…

https://www.nfl.com/news/patience-is-kansas-city-s-virtue-chiefs-got-bac...

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Racingdad's picture

February 11, 2023 at 02:51 pm

Everyone should take the time to read moopacks article it’s very informative I saved it to my folder and will share it to doubters on twitter when I actually want to waste some time

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Coldworld's picture

February 11, 2023 at 08:14 am

To me the future with Rodgers or any 40 and older QB is one of hoping to hold off decline. When that QB is part of a team with no cap to add talent and relying on internal development, that’s not a winning recipe. Those focused on the past are swimming upstream against a torrent of history.

It’s encouraging to see team mates come out with optimistic statements about Love, but give me game testing over practice perceptions any time. How good was our D in preseason per the coaches and players? That’s why not playing Love in a game or two this year with Rodgers hurt was extremely foolish.

That brings me to my major concern. I have no faith in our coaches to give Love a fair chance. I honestly believe that the coaching removed Rodgers chances in ‘20 and ‘21 and rolled out an offense that was so ineffectual and negative that it made him look worse when healthy this year. Indeed it seemed to me that only his frustration forced the little aggression we saw. That offensive design was as timorous as LaFleur seems as a personnel manager. Is LaFleur going to kill Love or whomever with similar lack of ambition and self belief?

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dobber's picture

February 11, 2023 at 10:57 am

"To me the future with Rodgers or any 40 and older QB is one of hoping to hold off decline."

When I was in HS, I drove our aging farm truck to school and as a gopher. It did well in that capacity, but you couldn't drive it on the freeway or pull hay and silage wagons with it anymore like we did in its prime because it burned way too much gas and ran too hard to put that kind of load on it. Then my sister got hold of it (she lives in GB, actually) for a weekend and tried to run it the way it was worked in its prime. It came home burned out, was parked, and never moved again.

The story fits in my mind...most will probably shrug and think I'm off my meds.

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NickPerry's picture

February 11, 2023 at 08:37 am

The bottom line is trading Rodgers is more beneficial for the Packers this year and especially in 2024. What ever draft picks they get out of the deal is a bonus. Getting Rodgers off the books SHOULD be priority job 1A. The front office thought they were going to be able to compete in 2022. They THOUGHT the defense would carry them while they RAN the ball and groomed Watson and Doubs. They thought Lazard could be a #1 WR and Sammy Watkins could be a solid addition. They were wrong on ALL counts.

This team isn't that close. Having another year older Rodgers doesn't get them to the dance, BUT a years experience for Love, additional picks in 2023 and conditional picks in 2024 is MORE valuable to this current Packers roster and staff. The Packers blew by their window with Rodgers in 2020 and 2021. THOSE were the years for them to win a SB if they were going to with #12.

Last thing... When Jones backed up Love we all know he HAS to do that. Thing is I think he believes it and so does Love and the rest of his teammates. You could TELL Jones was sick of the yearly offseason drama that Aaron Rodgers has become. Rodgers HAS turned into Brett Favre. Obviously he hasn't officially retired but this but this bullshit of will he or won't he for the 3rd straight offseason is just as bad, maybe worse than what Favre was doing.

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PackyCheese500's picture

February 11, 2023 at 09:29 am

Yes. This is exactly what I have been saying. We need to think in the long term (2024 and beyond) because there is little chance we’ll make the playoffs in 2023 let alone contend for a ring, no matter whether Rodgers stays or goes

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dobber's picture

February 11, 2023 at 11:00 am

Not just thinking long term, but being in a position where they can seize on an unexpected short-term opportunity when it presents itself--having that agiliity and flexibility to pivot on a dime in terms of planning. They don't have that now, and won't for several years under the current scenario.

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PackyCheese500's picture

February 11, 2023 at 01:54 pm

Exactly! That is one of the many reasons why we need a salary cap reset, so we can take advantage if such opportunities present themselves

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LambeauPlain's picture

February 11, 2023 at 08:55 am

Cory states "Gutekunst gave Rodgers an extension as a band-aid because the Packers weren’t fully onboard with what Love could provide."

What is the evidence of this? I believe the odds are greater Gutey was lobbying to move Rodgers to Denver and the open arms of Hackett in return for a kings ransom and needed triage on the salary cap.

I expect MLF, being Gutey's equal, convinced Acting GM Murphy to keep Rodgers. And Ball, also Gutey's equal, assured Murphy he could get the extension done, albeit with jaw dropping mortgaging of future cap space.

Murphy, as his career winds down, said "what the hell...let's keep Rodgers here no matter what."

I think Gutey was ready to build a team around Love with the Bronco's treasure trove. But he was voted down in "committee" because he is not a real GM.

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Coldworld's picture

February 11, 2023 at 09:43 am

Gute certainly did not give Rodgers the extension. Murphy has made it clear that contract decisions and negotiations are not Gute’s to make or conduct. That is explicitly the realm of the VP of Football Operations, Russ Ball, and Murphy, to whom Ball reports. Murphy had made this clear in writing on the Packers website more than once and this time last year described Ball as perhaps the most important person in his team that off season for that reason.

What Gute thought of that and the reasoning for it is open to speculation but definitely not transparent in factual terms. Murphy made it clear enough only to be certain that the drivers included himself and Ball.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

February 11, 2023 at 11:00 am

Good post Lambeau. You nailed it. I would much prefer to have the Packers use a more traditional organization chart with the GM in charge of football operations.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 11, 2023 at 12:12 pm

Murphy reminds me of a guy who goes to the Fair with his date - to try to win the big stuffed bear- but keeps losing - eventually leaving with no money, no bear and no date.

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Racingdad's picture

February 11, 2023 at 02:55 pm

Totally could be the case it fits quite well except I doubt mlf pushed it I believe it was all Murphy thinking his titletown would draw more with ar-12 still here —dam the future and the team

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croatpackfan's picture

February 11, 2023 at 09:04 am

You know that team mates are behind Jordan by how they played 4Q with Jordan at helm. They did everything to help him. And he did not disapponit them. Yes he had 2 bad throws from the move and one missed chance on Lazard (his throw to Watson to the end zone, while having Lazard open 10 yards from the end zone). That was lack of experience mistakes. I can imagine that his heart was in his throat from excitment that he finally get the chance to play.

I trully believe he is Packers future QB chance to be relevant again. I just do not have confidence in Packers management.

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PackyCheese500's picture

February 11, 2023 at 09:27 am

One of the end zone throws was a DPI on Cobb, if you remember

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croatpackfan's picture

February 11, 2023 at 10:12 am

Yes, 2nd one.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 11, 2023 at 10:12 am

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Racingdad's picture

February 11, 2023 at 02:57 pm

I too fear that fo will fail the future once again but I sure hope they grow a set and JUST DO IT !!!!!

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Swisch's picture

February 11, 2023 at 10:24 am

As I understand it, Jalen Hurts wasn't all that good last season, but he's leading the Eagles on Sunday.
At the same time, Kyle Murray of the Cardinals may have regressed this season after surging last season.
As for Jordan Love, it's time to get him on the field as our starting quarterback.
He seems as at least as promising as just about any other young quarterback already in the NFL, or coming out in the draft.
We won't really know about Love for two or three seasons, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was really good right away, and if he became a top-ten QB in the league.
I think the Packers have a lot of talent on offense and defense around Love to make the playoffs next season with 9 or 10 wins.
Let's find out.
I'm excited to begin the era of Jordan Love.

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jont's picture

February 11, 2023 at 04:52 pm

"We won't really know about Love for two or three seasons, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was really good right away, and if he became a top-ten QB in the league."

I agree. He's a 1st round pick who's had good coaching for three years. He should be better than average fairly quickly.

It also makes him valuable as trade bait. Not that GB would or should trade him, but he'd bring a 1st and more. If you want to play a game, who'd bring more in a trade, Rodgers or Love?

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Swisch's picture

February 11, 2023 at 06:48 pm

A corollary consideration is that, while Rodgers seems in his last year or two of play, we would hope for 10-15 years of Love.
Everything is a risk. My decision would be to start Love in 2023.
Glad for you comment, jont.

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jont's picture

February 12, 2023 at 10:01 am

FWIW, I am of two minds. Start the new guy with optimism and try to build for the future or start the hyper competitive HOFer coming back from an off year. Which do I prefer? What day is it?

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TheVOR's picture

February 11, 2023 at 10:40 am

This is classic. The over the top unjustified optimism of the "Offseason". Simply question to the team, media, and unrealistic fan base.

What Else Can they say? We've got a HOF QB in a blackout tank for 4 days trying to "decide" if he wants to play football? This is the biggest Hollywood Hoax ever played on a ravenous media, and the fans.

Simply put, Rodgers is a really intelligent man! REALLY INTELLIGENT! He doesn't want a replay of the Brett Favre drama and endangering his legacy. He saw what that cluster looked like and has decided not to follow that path! Brett Favre was a different animal. Even the fans that hated the way it all ended, deep down loved that player! If you asked a fan in general, that had seen both careers side by side, which QB did you like or love more, FAVRE would win that comparison hands down. Brett Favre was EVERY MAN!

Do you think that after playing for the Bears or Vikings that Rodgers will fill a stadium for a Packers HOF induction? Answer is no! Aaron Rodgers, for as Phenomenal as he is/was as a Packers QB, simply couldn't win that comparison. Personally, as a pure QB, I preferred Rodgers over Favre. As a guy I'd like to meet? Brett Favre any day of the week! In fact I've attempted to talk to and meet Aaron Rodgers on multiple occasions. Not be interruptive of his life, rude in any way, period. Simply put, he's aloof, strange, and the last thing he wants is any significant interaction with an adult afn or follower of his career, that's not in the media, or the parent of a kid he's using as a media piece! He's a weird dude. I have personally met Hundreds upon hundreds of football players over my lifetime, and probably 98% of them are pretty cool. Aaron Rodgers simply isn't "Fan Friendly".

I think this whole thing is a well orchestrated "divorce" that won't cripple his "Legacy". Wouldn't surprise me if this player plays 3-4 more years in a different uniform and is sniffing around another Super Bowl at some point. He's not what you saw on the field last year, let me put it that way. He needs to take the act elsewhere, and fans should be prepared for the start of even up to a decade or more of mediocre football. Objectively, and having watched football for 57 years, that's what's coming to GB in the post Rodgers era. Love is not even close, nor will he be to his two predecessors. Jordan Love is a "PLACE HOLDER" to the eventual next great QB in GB.

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dobber's picture

February 11, 2023 at 11:21 am

"fans should be prepared for the start of even up to a decade or more of mediocre football. Objectively, and having watched football for 57 years, that's what's coming to GB in the post Rodgers era. "

Be prepared for it--hell, be prepared for worse--but expect better. This isn't the 70s or 80s when teams had severely limited resources compared to modern football with regard to roster building and player management. This also isn't the ARod of 2011-2016.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 11, 2023 at 12:27 pm

Sadly dobber, if the current leadership remain in place then your scenario is very likely. Any other scenario would require a different organizational head/brain.

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Racingdad's picture

February 11, 2023 at 03:14 pm

I agree with everything you said until your last couple sentices how in the heck do you judge love when he has not gotten even a tiny chance to show what he had -don’t judge that kc game as for 3/4 of that game mlf was calling the game wrong for him it started to click at the end but by that time he was unsure of himself - what you saw this yr during eagles game is only the start of how good he can be when he is fully the sole starter - comments on him when drafted stated he had a big arm very mobile but also very raw -if Tom clements has done his job ( like he did with arod) than we should have another good to great qb when he gets a season to gain experience —- so stop judging him like the media wants you to —and no he’s not going to be ar-12 but he is going to be jl-10 get on the love train !!!

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Racingdad's picture

February 11, 2023 at 03:16 pm

Oops jl -10. Not 12

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Packerpasty's picture

February 12, 2023 at 07:45 pm

he can judge love just the way he wants, and I agree with him...how can you say Love will be even good to great when I sure haven't seen anything to show he will be...do you go to training camp and watch? I did for the last two years...I don't see much to get excited about...I guess we will soon see..one thing for sure, Love will ask to be traded if AR decides to come back to the Packers...

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ricky's picture

February 11, 2023 at 11:11 am

The headline of this article is misleading. Aaron Jones said that Love is ready to go. He also said a lot of his teammates saw the same thing. But, until someone else steps forward, it is a "teammate" not "teammates" that are backing Love. Also, it could be that Jones has an ulterior motive. If Love is the starter, the Packers are (a) more likely to re-sign Jones, to help out the new QB, and (b) Jones is likely to get more carries, since Love would be less likely to change the play at the LOS. The best scenario for the Packers is to trade Rodgers, and move on to Love. And once they get in some better coaches (if the front office is willing to spend more money to get top tier guys), this team could once again truly be in contention for another Super Bowl. There are a lot of moving pieces here, and although the Rodgers/Love may be the juiciest, there are other, even more questionable moves that need to be addressed.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 11, 2023 at 03:44 pm

Allen Lazard said the same...

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stockholder's picture

February 11, 2023 at 11:18 am

The bitching will never stop.
The ball has just started to roll.
At the top of the list is Poor Coaching!
MLF has taken the blame and admitted to it.
The roster has been incomplete and lacking tools.
The on Field support is questionable.
The regression of key players.
Management has been unable to address these issues.
Rodgers kept the Packers alive in the playoff hunt.
And this organization never truly appreciated Rodgers.
I for one second, Do not buy into Rodgers being humble.
His pouting, smoldering, or passive-aggressive glares,
can only turn into resentment. ( And Especially if he's traded.)
Lambeau field is now a prison cell or other place of confinement.
Especially for those who only want money.
Rodgers never took off his jersey. Others did.

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MooPack's picture

February 11, 2023 at 11:30 am

It's like poetry. The second coming of Walt Whitman.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 11, 2023 at 12:00 pm

LMM%'inAO...

I needed this.

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Coldworld's picture

February 11, 2023 at 02:04 pm

More like Spike Milligan? Let’s see.

“Say Bazonka every day
That's what my grandma used to say
It keeps at bay the Asian Flu'
And both your elbows free from glue.
So say Bazonka every day
(That's what my grandma used to say)

Don't say it if your socks are dry!
Or when the sun is in your eye!
Never say it in the dark
(The word you see emits a spark)
Only say it in the day
(That's what my grandma used to say)

Young Tiny Tim took her advice
He said it once, he said it twice
he said it till the day he died
And even after that he tried
To say Bazonka! every day
Just like my grandma used to say.

Now folks around declare it's true
That every night at half past two
If you'll stand upon your head
And shout Bazonka! from your bed
You'll hear the word as clear as day
Just like my grandma used to say!“

It seems quite likely to me
That Stockholder has up and decided
No matter the personal fee
To be very kind and help us
By seizing any opportunity
To throw out Bazonka each day …

(Sorry Spike Milligan)

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MooPack's picture

February 11, 2023 at 02:25 pm

👍

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 11, 2023 at 03:00 pm

Lovely. A little Spike Milligan to keep life in balance.

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Racingdad's picture

February 11, 2023 at 03:19 pm

Just sell your stock and become a bears fan as they are miserable all the time too

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 11, 2023 at 03:38 pm

It's been a long time since there was a bull market for the bears.

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dobber's picture

February 11, 2023 at 09:35 pm

"And this organization never truly appreciated Rodgers."

Contract after contract, skirmish after skirmish, the organization has given him pretty much everything he's wanted: money, input on personnel, a new coach...

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stockholder's picture

February 12, 2023 at 07:45 am

Then they should have never drafted Love.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 11, 2023 at 11:30 am

I am ready for whatever comes.

I've said it before, but the way I interpreted AR12 on PMS, he seems resigned to whatever the Packers decide.

I think if it was actually up to Gutey, I think he would've installed Love last year, after trading AR12 last year to Denver, but I feel Murphy, Ball, and MaLF over-ruled him 3 - 1...

If Gutey can't convince Murphy and Ball the best thing for the Packers is to trade their 4-time MVP for all they can, or if AR12 comes out of the darkness and decides he wants to play for the Packers until he retires, I think Murphy and Ball would trip over themselves making it happen.

MaLF has little to no power, so his vote probably doesn't account for much. Murphy and Ball are who Gutey has to convince.

Rodgers can make it real easy on the Packers. Come out of the darkness, decides he wants to go to Raiders, Jets, or Colts, whoever offers him the best deal. Gutey makes it happen.

Love is installed, we pick up his 5th year option, but give him a contract extension midseason '23.

Hoping the Jets offer the best package, because I would love the parallels of Favre going to the Jets.

AR12 can make this as easy or hard as he wishes, but it will only happen after his self-imposed exile into darkness.

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PackyCheese500's picture

February 11, 2023 at 01:58 pm

Personally, if I were Rodgers I would want to go to the Jets. They are the most complete team that has the best chance of winning a ring.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 11, 2023 at 04:47 pm

BDU, you sound like a guy I'd like to drink whiskey with. "I'm ready for whatever comes".

I tried to do four days of darkness, but the best I could manage was 9 hours, so I'll try again tonight.

Rodgers will make it easy on the Packers, and the Packers will make it easy on Rodgers, because the organization wants to play Love and Rodgers wants to keep playing and having those paychecks rolling in. I can't blame him.

I'd like to say I'm certain this will be over by March 15, but I'm not. But it will happen, and all my calculations on the team are without Rodgers.

This whole Gutekunst-MaLF-Murphy-Ball thing........

This season, without Rodgers, or any of the old holdovers, and with the QB they have scouted and drafted and developed, is the proof of the pudding. Either we're going to be surprisingly good, and everybody is going to be vindicated, or they are going to be as bad or worse than last year, in which case they're all going to be under attack, along with Murphy.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 11, 2023 at 09:59 pm

As long as it's good whiskey, I'm down Lh... (Or good rum... I think I was a Pirate in a previous life, if there is such a thing, because I spent 40+ years drinking rum.)

It won't be boring though, will it Lh?

I think it all depends on our draft and our luck how next seasons turns out with Love at QB. I could see us with 9 or 10 wins if Gutey has a great draft, we stay healthy at the premium positions, and Joe Barry doesn't put us in the toilet.

I could also see us lose a bunch of close games with JB as our DC...

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 11, 2023 at 11:45 am

Several times I have heard/read - over the last 2 years - that the players would like to have Love on the field. Conversely, there has never been a similar declaration for Rodgers - with the exception of his 2 frat pals (Cobb and Bakhtiari). What I do know from experience and observation - is that when players like each other - they play for each other. This doesn't always mean a victory but it usually does result in a better performance. It seems to me that Rodgers is past his expiry date - not only with the majority of fans but also with the players in the huddle. I believe that both groups would welcome more "freshness."

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stockholder's picture

February 11, 2023 at 12:00 pm

Z. Smith, MVS?

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Coldworld's picture

February 11, 2023 at 02:33 pm

Have no relevance to this.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 11, 2023 at 04:24 pm

Alberta......when Favre threw his final interception for the Packers, the players wanted to go with Rodgers, and just about everybody else did too.

The majority of the 69 guys in the locker room are under 26. Most of them aren't multimillionaires, and may never be. Rodgers is a 39 year old multimillionaire and a famous celebrity.

So who do you think the "team" has more in common with? Rodgers, or Love? Rodgers, when he was the backup, he had the team over to his place for socializing, and after 3 years, the team was behind him. This is just a natural evolution of things, and I'm sure it's going to be resolved shortly, and then we're going to see what Gutekunst and LaFleur and Love can do. If they do well, it's going to be a real vindication, and if they don't, they'll be under a lot of fire. That's the way it should be.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 11, 2023 at 04:47 pm

I think we may agree that the NFL is a young man's game - with the great majority of players having finished their careers before age 30. Incidentally Rodgers won the SB when he was 27. At this point we are well past Rodgers "best before" date. With Murphy and MLF - the team is devolving - not evolving.

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Packerpasty's picture

February 12, 2023 at 07:47 pm

I call B.S. on this...players have never said anything like this...give me some proof...links, anything but gossip..

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Packerpasty's picture

February 12, 2023 at 07:48 pm

this reply is supposed to be to the post above about players saying they want Love on the field..not down here..why is it down here?

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Gman1976's picture

February 11, 2023 at 11:47 am

I really don’t like all comments dogging on Aaron Rodgers. His subpar year (which would be a good stat year for a lot of quarterbacks) seems to be a combination of a fluid offensive line (not getting the best upfront until late in the season), rookie receivers learning the pro game, finding out Lazard is not a #1 wideout, Cobb doesn’t have the juice, and Watkins no longer has it to impact the game, not having a go-to TE (while Tonyan is still trying to recover from his injury), questionable coaching in all 3 phases of the game (that included keeping a KR that fumbled 5x - yes that was 5x!), and an aging MVP playing with a broken finger. Sure he made his mistakes like missing what looked like easy short throws and throwing low percentage bombs when we just needed a 1st down, but the personal attacks and hatred is more than tiresome.

When it come down to keeping or trading this Hall of Fame QB, I just hope the Packers just remember “it’s not personal, it’s business” and just do what’s best for the team. If that means Aaron needs to leave, then it’s just time. Honor him for the great years and move on. I will always appreciate what Starr, Favre and Rodgers has done in my lifetime. They brought a lot of joy. It is sad when the stars fall and fade, but it’s the course of life. And if I find Aaron playing for a football foe, I want to see him crushed by Jordan Love. Not because I hate him. It’s just because it’s the Packers and nobody else!

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 11, 2023 at 03:16 pm

Sometimes relationships just run their course - being better for each person to go their own way - ideally without regret or enmity. That time was last year and management should have facilitated an amicable separation. Their failure to do so now will not only taint the legacy of Aaron Rodgers but will also further antagonize the fan base. As I see it, upper management is the main culprit here.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 11, 2023 at 04:53 pm

You may say that we should have done this earlier, and I agree, but I totally did enjoy beating the Bears, twice, and beating Dallas. It was nice hanging 40 on the Purple.

I don't see why there needs to be any acrimony if everybody gets what they want....Rodgers wants to play and make money. Some team wants him to do that for their team, and will compensate us for that. The Packers want to move forward with Love. Everybody can get what they want as long as they all act like adults.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Truly, I spend a lot more time thinking about the 2023 team instead of Aaron Rodgers, who I do think will be gone before training camp opens.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

February 11, 2023 at 05:34 pm

For anyone who has been in corporate management - watching Murphy at work can only evoke incredulity and disdain. I have never seen a top executive exhibit such fealty to an employee as Murphy has to Rodgers. In doing so, he (Murphy) has arrested the development of the team for years to come - which is sheer incompetence.

Had Murphy done his duty and traded Rodgers last year - imagine going into this draft with a fistful of 1st and 2nd round draft choices! Imagine this year had Love emerged as a bona fide starting QB! So there can only be acrimony when thinking about Murphy.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 11, 2023 at 12:28 pm

I just find info that Taylor Heinicke said that he would love to come to Green Bay, even if he will be back up QB for Jordan.

There, they have good QB FA willing to be Packer and have no objection to be back up.

Another issue solved!

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/09/free-agent-qb-taylor-heinick...

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PackyCheese500's picture

February 11, 2023 at 01:59 pm

He would definitely be one of the better backup QBs!

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pantz_bURp's picture

February 11, 2023 at 02:00 pm

ATTITUDE

(by Charles Swindoll)

"The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life. Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think, say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company... a church... a home. The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we embrace for that day. We cannot change our past... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play the one string we have, and that is our attitude... I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.

And so it is with you... we are in charge of our Attitudes”

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Swisch's picture

February 11, 2023 at 06:51 pm

Good stuff to ponder upon.
The intangible of Attitude is indeed a beautiful mystery.

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stockholder's picture

February 11, 2023 at 03:19 pm

FanDuel TV

@FanDuelTV
“We’d love to have you back, we want to play with you… you’re our leader”

Aaron Jones joined
@LisaKerney
on #MoreWaysToWin and talks about Aaron Rodgers spending 4 days in isolation to find the answers he’s looking for

@FanDuel
|
@FDSportsbook
|
@Showtyme_33

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Philarod's picture

February 11, 2023 at 09:27 pm

"Which is why we are hearing this about Love now. And it’s also ironic that it’s coming from Jones, because if Rodgers comes back to Green Bay, the six-year running back likely won’t because he is due a cap hit of $20 million in 2023."

Not ironic. According to your own reasoning, it would be in Jones' interests for Rodgers not to resign.

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Packerpasty's picture

February 12, 2023 at 07:49 pm

I am sure I read that Jones said he thinks Rodgers will return to the Packers...

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Philarod's picture

February 13, 2023 at 03:33 pm

I thought so, as well.
I'm trying not to plunge too deeply into the speculation though. Much as I'm a big AR fan, I also realize that it may be better for both parties to separate.

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