Cory's Corner: Danny Trevathan is the perfect missing piece

You always hear how the clock is ticking on the Packers.

Aaron Rodgers, one of the supremely talented quarterbacks in the game, turns 33 next season. Tom Brady is the person that most closely resembles Rodgers because of their minuscule pass interception percentage (Rodgers’ 1.61 to Brady’s 1.93) and incredible passer rating (Rodgers’ 104.1 to Brady’s 96.4).

Brady was a First-Team All Pro at 33 and won his fourth Super Bowl at 37. So Rodgers has at least four years of solid play left.

So in an age of instant offense, it only makes sense to add more offense in free agency right? Because in the last 15 years, the amount of average passing yards per team has gone up by 37.

But you’d be wrong. In order for the Packers to make another Super Bowl run, defense is the answer.

The receiving corps will be one of the best in the NFL next season. Jordy Nelson returns from injury, Randall Cobb will be better because Nelson is in uniform, Davante Adams cannot be any worse and Jared Abbrederis and Jeff Janis can be counted on to not just play but to make a difference.

The same could be said for the offensive line — in fact, coach Mike McCarthy said it was one of the best units in the NFL during last year’s training camp. The lack of depth exposed this team and derailed the offense.

And with Rodgers running the controls, no more spice is needed on offense. If the planets do in fact align and general manager Ted Thompson feels the need to throw a curveball, then he has to go with defense.

And since McCarthy wants Clay Matthews to go back to outside linebacker, a perfect fit would be Broncos inside linebacker Danny Trevathan. If you didn’t know who Trevathan was before the Super Bowl, you surely did after. He may have only tallied four tackles, but he was instrumental in slowing the Panthers’ running attack down.

That’s intriguing, especially because the Packers finished last season ranked No. 21 in rushing defense.

Trevathan turns 26 next month and is looking for his first big payday. According to spotrac.com, the unrestricted free agent has a market value of a six-year, $36.4 million contract.

The Packers have over $19 million in cap room, but they still need to sign kicker Mason Crosby and defensive tackle B.J. Raji to team friendly deals.

That would leave enough of money left for Trevathan, who would allow Matthews plenty of room to roam on the outside — which is exactly what he wants. Signing Trevathan would also provide insurance against Julius Peppers who is 36 and will enter his 15th season next fall.

Peppers played surprisingly well by starting all 16 games and getting 10½ sacks, but he had to take plenty of plays off and his speed has become an issue. That speed was exposed front and center in the NFC Divisional Playoffs at Arizona last month.

Trevathan may not provide the box office sizzle that other teams covet. But he’s a solid player that’s coming from a great team and would be an incredible asset in tutoring inside linebacker Jake Ryan.

We all know that Thompson likes to dip his toes into free agency about as much as he loves to give interviews.

But the Packers are close to another gold ball. And Trevathan is the person that will make the trek to Houston seem a whole lot closer. 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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Bearmeat's picture

February 20, 2016 at 07:19 am

lol. Corey you are dreaming. TT has never spent 30 million on another team's FA, and I seriously doubt he starts now. It'd be nice - in theory - but it's not happening. And I also seriously doubt Raji and Crosby will take "team-friendly" deals either. I wouldn't if I were them. I'd hold out for every last penny I could.

And further - let's think back: After 2013, the "hot" name was Jarius Byrd at FS. The Saints spent HUGE on him and he's royally sucked for them. That deal (along with Brees' contract) has hamstrung the Saints - they need to blow up the roster now. After 2014 it was Suh and the Dolphins. Look how that worked out.

I could go back and do the same for every single year in the modern FA period. Big spending FA teams are losing teams. Trevathan would cost WAY too much money for me to be comfortable with the Packers grabbing him. How much of Denver's success was him? How much was their beastly DL and pass rush? How much was their superior coverage? Would what worked in Wade Phillips 34 work in Capers? We just don't know!

I'd rather do a mid-tier (or a couple mid-tier) FA deals for the same total price. That way if/when one busts it doesn't kill the cap.

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BELIEVER's picture

February 20, 2016 at 07:39 am

six years at 36 million would not kill the cap

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Bearmeat's picture

February 20, 2016 at 08:10 am

Maybe not, but that's still REALLY high pay for an ILB.

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Chad Lundberg's picture

February 21, 2016 at 12:30 pm

Anyone who says the Packers offense is just fine as is has already "lost my vote" to sort of speak. This offense, even with the return of Jordy Nelson who will be 31 and coming off an ACL injury, has to find pieces to keep it up and going. Seriously Cory, you need to thoroughly process your opinion in the future from now on. That's just a naive statement.

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johnnyd17's picture

February 20, 2016 at 06:45 am

good points, add Ty Montgomery to talented WR's coming back, he looked very good first 6 games

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dobber's picture

February 20, 2016 at 10:41 am

I think we learned this season that the Packers need more speed in their corps of receivers, even with Nelson coming back...whether it comes from a big, fast outside WR who can beat the jam, a good, seam-challenging TE, or a Darren Sproles-type RB who threatens on dump-offs. Maybe Montgomery is that guy, but the Packers can't afford to treat this off-season as if he IS that guy or they might be headed for a repeat of 2015.

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Bearmeat's picture

February 21, 2016 at 09:11 am

fantastic point

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Tundraboy's picture

February 21, 2016 at 09:26 am

Excellent point, felt that way even in 2014 as they started jamming Jordy at the line. Last year of course was worse, but you are right about what we need. Hopefully we get two out of the three and Ty is healthy as well.

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Nick Perry's picture

February 22, 2016 at 05:02 am

That's right TB, Jordy faded a bit in 2014 when teams started jamming him up more. Ty will make a difference but a True Burner and a TE are needed as is a RB type like Sproles or Lewis. Look at New England, first Lewis and then White, every RB TT selects doesn't have to be 6'1 or 225 to 235 pounds. (I know Lacy is shorter than 6'1) Franklin would have ben PERFECT!! I think Ty could really fill that void as the receiever out of the backfield.

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RVAborn's picture

February 21, 2016 at 11:17 am

The addition of a tight end that could bust the seam open is crucial. I know some people aren't high on Jared Cook; however, he was just released so none of the precious comp picks would be lost. He also hasn't exactly had an Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady throwing him the ball.

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dobber's picture

February 21, 2016 at 12:14 pm

He's got the stuff on paper, but he's always been a tease...inconsistent, reputation for being a head-case. He's the kind of guy, talent-wise, they could use, though, and who knows: the new TE coach could "Gary Barnidge" him.

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The GrEEn kNiGhT's picture

February 20, 2016 at 07:23 am

Sign Trevathan for sure. He's a steal for 6 mil a year. Draft defensive lineman with first two pick. And trade or pick up Bears TE Bennett. This team would be unstoppable. Our secondary is set and deep. Dline can be built through this draft. Oline just needs to stay healthy. Our defensive would be a top 5 D with Trevathan and 2 new decent DTs from this years draft.

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croatpackfan's picture

February 21, 2016 at 05:28 am

You really, really thinks that Trevathan would sign 6 mil. 1 year deal? He will ask for 5 - 6 years. And what if he is bust. You will have a dead money on your cap... There is the reason, other than price why Broncos will let him go...

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The GrEEn kNiGhT's picture

February 20, 2016 at 07:33 am

TT never spends 30 million on other teams FAs? Ever heard of Julius Peppers? I know it was many many years ago so it is really easy to forget. I know spending big on FA doesn't usually work but the teams you named were really bad teams with a lot of holes. What about Broncos? They build their D through FA. Ware, Ward, and Talib. Pats won with Revis and Talib. Seahawks won with FAs like Lynch, Avril and Harvin. Pack need Trevathan. He is only available because Broncos can't afford him or else he would be locked up to a long term deal. MLB like him only his FA once in a decade or so. Jump on it!

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Bearmeat's picture

February 20, 2016 at 07:57 am

Peppers was not a Free Agent. He was cut. BIG difference in how that figures into the compensatory picks - which for TT are gold.

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Harlan Huckleby's picture

February 20, 2016 at 11:34 am

James Laurinitis was recently cut by the Rams, so maybe that's a guy to consider. I don't know much about him but he seems pretty solid.

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The GrEEn kNiGhT's picture

February 20, 2016 at 03:48 pm

I understand the compensatory picks but a FA is a FA. Wether he was cut or not cut. Still made him a FA.

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ray nichkee's picture

February 20, 2016 at 08:14 am

Why is harvin on your list?

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holmesmd's picture

February 20, 2016 at 08:06 am

I would sign this guy tomorrow. Immediate upgrade at the position IMO.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_25632891/once-too-small-danny-treva...

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porupack's picture

February 20, 2016 at 08:08 am

Of course he would be upgrade and fill the single biggest team 'hole', but his show on superbowl winning team drives his price too high. Not sure GB would win the bidding war.

Find me an under-rated vet FA ILB with a little better value ratio, and I would say that still accomplishes the goal to get experienced talent there now, (while still drafting an ILB to develop).
I agree though, that vet FA ILB would boost the overall team more than any other position acquisition.
Vet FA TE is right after that. I like the idea of hard working, grinder Bennett. I always liked him.

I suppose 31 one teams are looking at Denver blueprint on D which just took over the tournament, and in taking notes, I'll bet there is a mighty run on D on draft day. The contrarian investor might find some extra value if pursuing offensive draftees, no?

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Harlan Huckleby's picture

February 20, 2016 at 11:36 am

James Laurinitis. (I'm like the James Larunitis "chaka" here).

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Rossonero's picture

February 20, 2016 at 08:33 am

I'd love for them to sign him, but unfortunately ILB is a position the Packers do not seem to value.

More importantly, how did TT and so many other teams overlook Trevathon? He was a 6th round pick. He was criticized heavily for being undersized, but his speed and playmaking were there to see when he was at Kentucky.

Most notably, he led the SEC in tackles for two years in a row. The last guy to do that was none other than All-Pro Patrick Willis. Instead, the Packers took Terrell Manning in the 5th round. Ugh.

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Samson's picture

February 20, 2016 at 04:52 pm

TT hasn't had even an average draft for years. ---- Lousy drafts and next to no free agents is why GB finished the last 12 games at 5-7 in 2015.

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Bearmeat's picture

February 21, 2016 at 12:08 pm

That's a little harsh Samson. 2014-2015s drafts look very promising. And 2013 was above average.

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dobber's picture

February 21, 2016 at 12:12 pm

He's a sonova-bovine. ;)

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dobber's picture

February 21, 2016 at 12:16 pm

I don't think any team is prepared to play as far down the depth chart on both the OL and WR groups as the Packers did over the bulk of that stretch.

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Bearmeat's picture

February 21, 2016 at 01:52 pm

Nope. I remember reading in a 2013 McGinn article that 2 types of injuries kill any team.

1. Injuries to irreplaceable blue-chip players. (Nelson/ARod/CM3)
2. A slew of injuries to 1 position.

Let's see: GB had BOTH in spades this past year. Nelson goes out. Lacy is injured and fat. WR gets decimated (Cobb/Monty/Adams all hurt and played in addition to Nelson being out). OL gets decimated (mostly played through but a lot of missed playing time by every member of the OL). That type of a mess will kill any offense ladies and gents.

I don't expect the Packers to be back to 2011 or 2014 heights next year, but I do think they'll be substantially better with a motivated Lacy, healthy Jordy and a WR coach to get the young guys going.

That said, I still would be very happy with some OL draft picks and a free agent TE.

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Packer_Pete's picture

February 20, 2016 at 08:54 am

Maybe he was able to shine or at the very least play solidly in the Denver D since the players around him are really really good. Not just the OLBs like Ware or Miller, but also the DL is outstanding. If I was an opposing OC, he would be far down on the list of Broncos players I'd worry about on D. IN other words, I'd not game plane or scheme to avoid him, but rather Miller, Ware, or Wolfe. I a not sure he'd have the same impact on the Packers.

So I actually think he is overrated, and too expensive.

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LeagueObsrvr's picture

February 20, 2016 at 10:15 am

I agree. I think James Laurinaitis makes more sense for the Packers, as he is more experienced and comes with a cheaper price tag. Ted Thompson's kind of guy.

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Bearmeat's picture

February 21, 2016 at 09:12 am

Laurinitis can't run anymore. We need someone to cover TEs and RBs.

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dobber's picture

February 21, 2016 at 05:03 pm

You're right in that regard. I'm no expert, but I agree that we need a guy LIKE Danny Trevathan, who can run with TE and RB and who doesn't have to come off the field on passing downs. He can play effectively in most sub packages, and these days that's where his true value is going to lie. The Packers took a shot on an UDFA who reads like Trevathan on paper (Joe Thomas) but has turned out to be nowhere near his quality.

So the question is...do you look for a Danny Trevathan or do you look for a Deone Bucannon? Those are two guys we've heard a lot about over the course of the postseason. I don't think either is easy to find.

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Bearmeat's picture

February 21, 2016 at 08:47 pm

Sean Richardson.... our Deone Buchanon.... sigh....

I think Jake Ryan could become that guy. His 3 cone drill is certainly fast enough, and (unlike Joe Thomas) he has the instincts. He's just really raw.

That said, I hope TT has a plan that doesn't involve Jake Ryan or bust.

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Rossonero's picture

February 20, 2016 at 09:09 am

The Packers could've solved this problem with Mason Foster or Rolando McClain last year for cheap. What a shame. This ILB position is starting to remind me of the disaster we had at safety a few years ago.

The Packers reportedly met with Reggie Ragland after the senior bowl and really like him. Will he be available at pick 27? I don't think so.

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4thand1's picture

February 20, 2016 at 09:22 am

The viqueens will take him. Greenway is getting long in the tooth ,and they know the Packers would love to have him.

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Rossonero's picture

February 20, 2016 at 09:50 am

Unfortunately, I think you're right. Between Barr, Kendricks and Ragland, they could have one of the best LB groups in the NFL.

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Bearmeat's picture

February 20, 2016 at 12:01 pm

Fine. But they have crap at every position on offense except RB and he's old.

I'll take GBs roster over Minnys any day of the week.

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Nick Perry's picture

February 21, 2016 at 04:57 am

i think the Jets will take him, I don't think he'll make it to the Queens.

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holmesmd's picture

February 20, 2016 at 02:58 pm

Ragland is a very big "thumper" who is NOT a chase LB . He's big, strong, and slow. We need a guy that can friggin run! I'm not sure why every other contender gets the concept an GB doesn't? Cement shoes Barrington & Ryan aren't really fast enough to cover anyone in the pass game. There are better chase LB's in the draft than Raggland. Let's not get tunnel vision here and be fixated by big names. Moseley is considerably faster both in speed and play diagnosis than Raggland is. Just sayin

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dobber's picture

February 22, 2016 at 05:23 am

I tend to agree with you. The current trend in the NFL is to find guys who play over many sub packages...that trend favors smaller and faster guys on defense who have cover skills.

Ragland looks like a base, "take-on" LB in the 3-4. How many snaps would he see outside of base and short-yardage looks? I think what they need is a flexible inside-outside LB (bigger than 6-1, 230) who can run and cover. Last scout I read said that guy is riding a unicorn and counting leprechaun gold. ;)

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

February 20, 2016 at 05:25 pm

I got beat up for suggesting McClain last offseason. He was one of the best coverage Linebackers in the league last season and would have freed up Matthews to play OLB full time. He only cost 3 million.

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Mags's picture

February 20, 2016 at 09:13 am

These stories about signing Forte or Trevathan or any other free agent I guess makes for good fantasy reading when there isn't much else to talk about until draft time. But in reality that's all it is with Ted.

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4thand1's picture

February 20, 2016 at 09:19 am

Why even post articles on high end FA's? We will read them only to watch them sign with some other team. Usually a player gets a ring and it's all about the $$$$ afterwards. In today's game, with the concussion issue and health issues after football, players will play shorter careers and retire sooner. IMO, I think there's very few players with the mentality to win as many championships as possible over their career.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

February 20, 2016 at 05:15 pm

They post them cause we read them.

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4thand1's picture

February 20, 2016 at 09:24 am

The lolions are releasing Stephen Tulloch.

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Bearmeat's picture

February 20, 2016 at 09:32 am

Any speed he once had is gone. No thanks.

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egbertsouse's picture

February 20, 2016 at 09:36 am

Never gonna happen. TT will try to solve the ILB problem with another 5th round draft choice.

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Allan Murphy's picture

February 20, 2016 at 09:50 am

4 Year 24 million he would be 30 in the 4th year of the deal .

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Maverick91's picture

February 20, 2016 at 03:07 pm

MAKE IT HAPPEN TED! If we miss out on him we should definitely sign Jerrell Freeman from the Colts. He has been very productive for them and will come at a cheaper price. We also need to sign LaDarius Green or Bennett when if he's available to solve our 2nd biggest problem at TE. The other needs can be solved in the draft.

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Nick Perry's picture

February 22, 2016 at 05:09 am

I don't know why Maverick91 got "thumbs down" for that comment. Flemming had an excellent year in both Run and Pass defense. He'll also be cheaper than Trevation. I'd rather draft a TE and sign Bennett on a 1 or 2 year deal though that might be tough. If the Dolpphins release Cameron, he'd be worth a look. The Packers now employ his former coach.

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Maverick91's picture

February 24, 2016 at 11:35 am

Thanks for having my back Nick, to me it's simple, sign Danny Trevathan or Jerrell Freeman with Green or Martellus Bennett if he's available. Then draft to fill the other needs. Here are who I think we should take in the first 3 rounds:

- Round 1: Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State
- Round 2: Kentrell Brothers, OLB, Missouri
- Round 3: Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State (absolute STEAL!)

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The GrEEn kNiGhT's picture

February 20, 2016 at 11:08 am

I don't like Tulloch. He's horrible in coverage and okay against the run. I feel like McCarthy calling out Thompson will ignite something in him. He won't spend like a mad man which we don't even want him to. Just ILB and TE. That's all we ask for. Packers have been average in the Redzone the last few years. We need that presence in the middle badly who can score for us in tight spaces.

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dobber's picture

February 20, 2016 at 04:28 pm

If MM calling out TT spurs TT into doing things he wouldn't normally do, then TT isn't the GM we thought he was.

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Clay the 1st's picture

February 20, 2016 at 01:15 pm

P.S. You broke your promise

P.P.S Honor your promise please

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Since'61's picture

February 20, 2016 at 01:19 pm

I would sign Trevathan and Bennett if he becomes available or Gates if Bennett is unavailable. Trevathan completes our defense and one of the TEs complete our offense assuming the team stays healthy and we don't have any more suspensions due to unnecessary stupidity. Then use the draft for DL and OL, plus a WR with speed and good hands, an RB, OLB, and maybe a punter. Let's get the players we need and get to the SB. We can't keep depending on A. Rodgers to carry us to the SB with a team of UFDAs. Enough is enough already! Thanks, Since '61

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Tundraboy's picture

February 20, 2016 at 04:39 pm

Well said Since 61, Time has come to add the key pieces we need, not waiting for a surprise UDFA, and depending so much on 2nd year players making a jump. It's great to find a diamond but to rely on them as much as we have is why we have so many holes this year.

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February 20, 2016 at 04:37 pm

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February 20, 2016 at 04:38 pm

deleted double post

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Nick Perry's picture

February 20, 2016 at 04:43 pm

Amen Since '61, amen.

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February 21, 2016 at 07:10 am

At this point if Ted Thompson hasn't learned his lesson by watching the success that Elway, Schneider, Keim, Gettleman, and Belichick have had plugging gaps with reasonable free agent additions then it is time for him to step down and just be the director of college scouting or retire all together.

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February 21, 2016 at 07:38 am

I don't believe TT has all the power to control who gets signed. Are the other coaches too chickenshit to speak their minds? This team always has some glaring hole that needs fixing and it takes to long to do it. When it happens then another problem crops up. In a few years it'll be QB and then we'll be really screwed. The odds of getting another HOF QB are next to none.

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February 21, 2016 at 01:21 pm

Other than salary cap restrictions I have no reason to believe TT does not have the final say. Mccarthy's recent comments certainly indicate that he does. What evidence is there to the contrary?

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lou's picture

February 20, 2016 at 02:19 pm

Every year we hear the questions, "What does the Assistant Head Coach or Associate Head Coach do, what are their responsibilities"? My big question is what does the Packer's Pro (not College) Personnel Director do ? With the less than a handful of veteran free agent signings over the last 12 years he must be the MAYTAG REPAIRMAN - sitting on his butt all day long. My guess is he is basically a guy who keeps track of veterans being cut but his full time job is to assist the college scouting staff, if not why have him.

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February 20, 2016 at 03:24 pm

I don't think we will get one through F.A. I honestly think we draft Lee or Scooby Wright III ....and I would be one happy packer fan if we did.

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February 20, 2016 at 03:51 pm

Or Brothers...

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February 21, 2016 at 07:40 am

Maybe we'll draft Scobby Doo.

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February 20, 2016 at 04:39 pm

As much as I'd like to think Ted T bumped his head last week and can't recall his "Thrifty" approach to building the Packers roster, signing Trevation has about as much chance of happening as signing Revis last year, or any other "All Pro Talent" being signed by the Packers. I HATE the Free Agency period, drives me F'ing nuts because at the end of the day it's nothing but "False Hope".

Thompson is going to HOPE that Ryan takes the vaunted 2nd year jump, just like he HOPED Rodgers II and Adams would last season. I mean how long did we have to wait for a Safety? How long for a TE and ILB?

Once since 2006 has TT signed a FA that would actually play every down or contribute which was obviously Peppers and Guion. Maybe just maybe he'll listen to his coaches pleas, but I highly doubt it.

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Samson's picture

February 20, 2016 at 04:56 pm

Anyone who thinks that Adams, Abby & Janis are going to be part of the best WR corp in the NFL is delusional. --- None are proven.

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Bearmeat's picture

February 20, 2016 at 10:40 pm

They don't have to be the leagues best. Top half would just fine with the QB we have. Getting a dedicated WR coach will help. As will getting one more year of growth for the young guys. Oh and getting a 98/1500/14 guy back too. ;)

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Nick Perry's picture

February 21, 2016 at 07:08 am

If Nelson beats those stats will you leave and keep your word like a "Real Man" does?

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Nick Perry's picture

February 21, 2016 at 07:16 am

My friends and I have a bet about "Who Cow Really Is". Some think you're a 13 year old punk who likes to F with people. Others thinks you're a 45 to 55 year old miserable person that likes to F with people and has nothing better to do than make 1419 negitive comments. Then there's even the 3rd group who think you're 30 something and live in Mom's basement. Tell us Cow, who's the winner?

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Bearmeat's picture

February 21, 2016 at 08:32 am

I played with him in a FF league over at allgbp.com 2 years ago. I won't share his real name but I will say that he's a middle aged man who actually knows football. His FF was good - and it wasn't "lucky" good. He knew what he was doing.

So that leads me to believe that he really believes the constant negative schlock he posts. Sometimes I manage to feel sorry for him - because anyone who struggles with that much negativity in their viewpoint will really have a hard time in life.

But then he says something asinine. I get frustrated. Then I stop feeling bad for him.

Bottom line: he's a packer fan. But a miserable one. He's an Eeyore personality who has the aermonizing ability of a baptist preacher.

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Nick Perry's picture

February 22, 2016 at 05:14 am

I've picked up he knows some things, just really didn't believe he was a Packers Fan, not really. Thanks Bearmeat.

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dobber's picture

February 22, 2016 at 05:25 am

Maybe I'll set up an FFL this fall for people here to play. I suspect most of us are already playing a couple, bit it sounds like it would be fun.

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dobber's picture

February 22, 2016 at 05:26 am

...and the award for "Best Use of the Word 'Aermonizing' in a Blog Post" goes to (tears open envelope)...BEARMEAT!!!

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Bearmeat's picture

February 22, 2016 at 08:44 am

lol.

That was a typo that made me look look like a much better historian than I am. I looked up "aermonizing" on the google: "An 18th century term which refers to an oration of unusual length and skill."

I mean "sermonizing." Which I guess is somewhat the same... HA!

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holmesmd's picture

February 24, 2016 at 10:27 am

Lol. I knew what you wanted to type but was also familiar with the typo.Hilarious!

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zeke's picture

February 22, 2016 at 07:12 am

"He's an Eeyore personality..."

It's been awhile since I read Winnie the Pooh, but did Eeyore struggle with narcissistic personality disorder? If so, you're spot on.

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Bearmeat's picture

February 22, 2016 at 08:47 am

HA. Touche

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Nick Perry's picture

February 21, 2016 at 07:07 am

I think you're spot on Bearmeat, McCarthy's WR/QB coaching combo was obviously one of the worst choises he's made since he's been here. Hopefully the kid can coach.

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zeke's picture

February 22, 2016 at 07:51 am

I think this answers the question (that no one asked, but whatever) about whether there was a "hangover effect" from the loss to Seattle in the NFCCG. MM overreacted by giving up play-calling to Clements and re-organizing the coaching staff the way he did. Hindsight is great...

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Bearmeat's picture

February 22, 2016 at 08:49 am

^^^ THIS ^^^^

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rickarndt9's picture

February 20, 2016 at 07:11 pm

It's time to place a bigger emphasis on IL position through FA! Quit screwing around Ted! Your days could be numbered too with another average draft class!

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Bearmeat's picture

February 20, 2016 at 09:06 pm

No. You just are obnoxiously pessimistic all the time. The 2015 year was either a harbinger of things to come (so you were right), or just a series of boneheaded coaching moves by MM, injuries and a fluky 0-3 record in 1 score games at home and another flukey playoff loss. And that these will all be fixed per normal on MM's "promises" before next season. (so I'd be right in that scenario).

Either way, 2015 was the least fun year to be a Packer fan since 2008 bar none. And probably the 3rd least fun season since 1991.

So it makes sense that people sound like you. Despite the fact that most despise you.

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marpag1's picture

February 21, 2016 at 12:08 am

That's a great plan, Cow. Every single day, scream that the world is going to end in flames. Armageddon any moment now. Sure, lots of people will think you're a dumbshit, but one day, sooner or later, you'll look like a friggin' genius. Ah yes, one day, Cow. One day.......

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4thand1's picture

February 21, 2016 at 07:45 am

I think you were screaming out the window and it fell on your head.

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lou's picture

February 21, 2016 at 12:52 pm

I like all the guesses on who Cow is, in regards to "I was the only one who noticed it" - in regards to the window closing he has unvailed himself to all. He has to be Al Gore's son, remember a few weeks back Gore's 10 year global warming clock EXPIRED and believe it or not the earth has not burned, Al was the "only one who noticed it" when it was so OBVIOUS 10 years ago.

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dobber's picture

February 21, 2016 at 05:05 pm

Now, now. Cow has not yet claimed to have invented the internet, so let's keep this in perspective....

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Amanofthenorth's picture

February 21, 2016 at 03:29 am

it's a bit easier to be an All pro IL when you play behind monsters up front. Keep getting monsters up front and you'll be amazed how good your IL's are.

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4thand1's picture

February 21, 2016 at 07:45 am

That was the case in Detroit.

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Bearmeat's picture

February 21, 2016 at 08:38 am

And this is why the "sideline to sideline" ILBs look so great on great defenses but so bad on bad defenses. Very rarely are they big enough to shed blocks in the run game if they're fast enough to cover TEs RBs and slot WRs in the passing game.

I have a feeling Trevathan would get swallowed up behind our DL most years. They were top 10 this past year, but there's going to be a lot of turnover this offseason obviously. And let's face it, our DL from 2011-2014 was pretty poor overall. The odds are against a repeat of 2015 talent wise.

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holmesmd's picture

February 21, 2016 at 12:44 pm

I think our DL is going to be pretty good again. Pennel suspension sucks but he's a solid young player. Guion, Daniels, Jones, and probably Raji will be back? Why would you assume Trevathan wouldn't be good behind them? I don't think our DL will look much different at all and I think they were actually one of the few bright spots on the team in 2015.

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February 21, 2016 at 08:50 pm

Because IF he's back, Raji is average. Guion is inconsistant. Pennel ditto (and suspended) - but has high upside. D Jones sucks against the run. That leaves Daniels and one of the young guys to step up.

Yikes. Help is needed at DL. And this is a DL rich draft. I expect 1 of the first 2 picks to be a 5 Tech or NT.

Perhaps Solai from ATL? He's going to be cut...

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February 22, 2016 at 12:30 am

I agree Bearmeat. Our DL last season was average. Daniels is good, Raji and Pennel were okay, Guion was inconsistent, and Jones is subpar in that he is a situational guy only. If TT takes a 5 Tech or an NT at #27, that will be a guy who in other years would have been drafted in the late teens, most likely.

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marpag1's picture

February 22, 2016 at 01:23 am

There's some pretty good pass rush talent in this draft too. I wouldn't be surprised if TT went that way at 27, anticipating a need to replace Peppers, Neal, Perry, etc.

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holmesmd's picture

February 24, 2016 at 10:35 am

I get your point and certainly not against the notion of infusing young talent on DL thru the draft. This may be a break out year for Jones? He has flashed and he's playing in a contract year. Pennel will come back angry & rested in Oct. I've heard some positive speculation about Ringo. I'm actually fine with how Raji & Guion play most of the time. DL can get better but I don't consider it a glaring area of weakness either. Guion's contract would suggest that GB thinks more of him than you guys do. We shall see. GP!

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RVAborn's picture

February 21, 2016 at 11:47 am

While I like Trevathan-that's price is a little steep. Sure the guy would be an upgrade over what we have, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to annoit him as the "missing piece". Now if it was Luke Kuchely, I'd be more inclined to agree. A guy who really peaks my interest is Laurinitis- he's not a speed demon, but he compensates with his great instincts and should come cheaper (AND WOULDNT COST A COMP PICK!!!'). Laurinitis, along with a more athletic rookie, could really enhance that position. Add a seam-stretching tight end , and suddenly the packers don't have many voids. Of course this is all wishful thinking. I just really hope Sam barring ton and Jake Ryan are not the starting ILB's.

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dobber's picture

February 21, 2016 at 12:17 pm

As I look at the FAs TT is likely to sign, if any, it's the Laurinaitis's and the Tulloch's who are the candidates. Not Trevathan.

We scream at the heavens offseason after offseason that we want TT to sign someone, but these are the guys who are options. If we're going to complain that TT doesn't sign these other "high profile, gonna cost you compensatory stuff" guys, then it's just us deluding ourselves because it isn't who TT is. We know who he is at this point. We know what he does.

If we don't like the Tulloch's or the Laurinaitis's because we don't feel they add to our roster, then be content with the fact that our players are at least as good as guys who have played a helluva lot of NFL football and are likely to step in somewhere else and play more.

Otherwise...Laurinaitis isn't Danny Trevathan, but I agree: he could help this team right now.

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February 21, 2016 at 01:36 pm

I agree with most of your post.My only rebuttal (not just specifically to you) is this stigma from some that all other fans want TT to go gallivanting off on an arbitrary spending spree in Free Agency. That's not the case and I know that's not who TT is (thank the lord). I love draft and develop, as it builds a great core to the team. If Aaron Rodgers was 27 I could care less if TT signed anyone. Problem is Rodgers turns 33 this year, and the window is closing. It's getting to that point where a responsible acquisition or two ( a te/an ILB) very well may put us over the top rather than hording comp picks that very rarely amount to anything. Mike Daniels is the one exception.

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dobber's picture

February 21, 2016 at 01:37 pm

Bingo.

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February 21, 2016 at 09:22 pm

With a possible hat tip to the secondary, the Packer DL was actually the best unit on the team last year. It just also is going to lose a bunch of talent very soon. Raji/D Jones gone soon.

So I disagree that Kuechly would have been effective behind the 2015 Packer DL, but I agree that reinforcements are needed soon. And this is the year to do it.

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February 21, 2016 at 09:40 pm

The Panthers d-line wasn't anything spectacularly breathtaking. Above average, yeah, but they didn't make Kuchely and Davis Jr. stick to running backs like glue in coverage.

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February 21, 2016 at 01:26 pm

To win in the NFL, you need a dominant o-line or d-line. TT will draft a lot of big guys this year. The o-line is getting old and the d-line needs depth.

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dobber's picture

February 21, 2016 at 01:39 pm

Change that "or" statement in the first sentence to an "and" and I'm with ya.

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February 21, 2016 at 08:31 pm

Almost impossible to have both.

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Evan's picture

February 22, 2016 at 09:03 am

"The o-line is getting old..."

Huh? 3/5 of the line is currently under 26 years old without a single member over 30.

2016 Week 1 Age:

Bahk - 24
Sitton - 30
Linsley - 25
Lang - 28
Bulaga - 27

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February 22, 2016 at 09:17 am

May be more accurate to say: 3/5 of the line is less than 16 months away from free agency, and two of them will be around or over 30 at that point. I think that's the issue: who do you pay, and how much are you willing to pay them? Will that be competitive with the open market? Will the team benefit from paying and playing guys like Sitton and Lang, who are aging and have been dinged a little more recently, until they're 34 years old? What do you offer Bakhtiari, who is solid, but most of us agree can be improved on?

I'm glad I don't make those decisions.

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February 22, 2016 at 09:36 am

Oh, absolutely.

I think TT will 100% extend Bahk. Likely during this upcoming season. No doubt in my mind. He won't break the bank. Something that'll put him middle of the pack for LTs, around $6.5-7 mil per year. Actually, I could see him getting a very similar deal to Bulaga (5 year, $33.75 mil, $8 mil guaranteed).

As for Lang vs. Sitton - pick one, let the other walk. Neither should get much of a raise with a new deal, so the cap implication isn't huge. I'd pick Lang - he's a year younger and while Sitton has been the better player, the gap has shrunk considerably the last season or two.

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dobber's picture

February 22, 2016 at 11:40 am

"As for Lang vs. Sitton - pick one, let the other walk."

I'm a little more pessimistic: I see the Packers drafting a couple OL this year and two of Lang/Sitton/Bakhtiari walk after next season for compensatory picks. I don't think TT will put the money on the table that it will take to keep two of those three unless an attempt to draft replacements this year goes very poorly. If I had to guess, the Packers will have two new OGs on opening day of 2017.

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Evan's picture

February 22, 2016 at 12:25 pm

"I see the Packers drafting a couple OL this year and two of Lang/Sitton/Bakhtiari walk after next season for compensatory picks."

I'd put the chance that TT lets Bahktiari walk at .02 percent.

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dobber's picture

February 22, 2016 at 01:32 pm

I think you're probably right...so what do you think of Matt Rotherham and JC Tretter at OG?

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Evan's picture

February 22, 2016 at 01:39 pm

Don't know anything about Rotherham...but Josh Walker very well might have a future there.

I've said it before, but I'm also intrigued by the idea of Tretter at center with Linsley sliding over to guard. I just feel like Linsley has the athleticism, strength and tenacity to work at guard.

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Flow49's picture

February 22, 2016 at 09:00 am

Great D lineman can make avg ILBers good. Lousy Dline can make great linebackers average. We may not need Trevathan if we can bolster the line through the draft and maybe a solid vet FA. Denver had a great Dline maybe that why Trevathan was so good maybe not but a big deal to him does present a gamble.

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February 22, 2016 at 08:59 am

That being said I'd still be pretty stoked if we got him

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