Cory's Corner: Back To Basics

Runing the football with a dollup of play-action wins this game going away. 

There were plenty of people screaming for defense last week as the Saints totally embarrassed the Packers 38-3. 

And the defense looked gassed early on as Jameis Winston turned in arguably one of the best performances of his seven-year career. 

But let’s be honest. The NFL is an offensive league. There’s a reason why sweeping changes occurred in 1994 — mainly because of a 22 percent decline in touchdowns. Defenses have been hamstrung ever since especially in the secondary. 

That’s why the Packers have to score. They have to figure it out on the offensive end. Aaron Rodgers won the MVP award by throwing 48 touchdowns and five picks. He threw an interception just under one percent of the time last year. Last week, he threw two picks — 7.1 percent of the time. 

But it all starts with Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon. The Lions gave up 131 yards to a mostly backup backfield, including a whopping 65 yards on first down. The 49ers could’ve told the Lions that they were running the football and where and Detroit still would’ve had problems. 

I’m interested to see how this offense responds. Are they starting two offensive linemen? Yep. Are they missing their All-Pro left tackle? Sure are. 

Character is revealed in tough times and the Packers need this one. I hate labeling games a must win, but when you have to play the Steelers, Cardinals, Chiefs, Seahawks, Rams and Browns, you need every win that you can squeeze out. 

I want to see some leadership. I don’t want to see pointing of fingers. I want to see players taking ownership of mistakes. If Lucas Patrick misses a block, I need him to wear it in the huddle. If Robert Tonyan drops a pass, he needs to own that costly mistake. 

This is a measuring stick game for the Packers on Monday night. Not because Detroit is some overpowering mountain of NFC dominance. But it is going to show how quick this team can bounce back from adversity. 

All week we’ve heard from the Packers that it’s just one game and how there are 16 more games to prove themselves. That’s very true and who knows, that one loss may not matter that much in the NFC playoff race come January. 

But the thing that separates the good teams from the great ones is being able to step up and put an end to poor play.

You can blame the defense all you want. Jared Goff doesn’t scare me. The Packers must feed Jones and Dillon and get back to winning with the play-action. 

That’s who the Packers are and why they were successful last year. Do that for 60 minutes and you’re going to see the Packers blow the doors off the Lions. 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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croatpackfan's picture

September 18, 2021 at 06:35 am

Lets hope Diva will not overturn running plays to long pass tries.

If that happen, lets hope MLF will finaly find his balls to publicly announce what went wrong...

Lets hope Barry will use his players properly and call the D plays to the personel strenght, not to their weakness.

Lets hope Packers inactivate Lancester and activate Heflin.

Lets hope, because that is all what we have...

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CoachDino's picture

September 19, 2021 at 12:36 am

totally agree on ar and mlf points. we need the offense to force opponents offense to play to our defensives strength pass coverage and min big plays. this d isnt built to play from behind.

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NickPerry's picture

September 18, 2021 at 10:26 am

"I hate labeling games a must win, but when you have to play the Steelers, Cardinals, Chiefs, Seahawks, Rams and Browns, you need every win that you can squeeze out. "

This is exactly why I made a similar comment this week abut this being a MUST WIN game for the Packers. I googled the chances an NFL team has to make the Playoffs after starting out 0-2 and after a VERY quick review I saw 12% mentioned more than once. IF the Packers were to lose Sunday, they be 0-2 in the NFC and 0-1 in the Division. That 0-2 in the NFC would be a brutal way to start a season for a team who has SB aspirations.

I think Cory picked the PERFECT Packer for this article. The Packers just paid Jones MILLIONS and he had never had a chance on Sunday. That game plan sucked, the playcalling sucked, the creativity was nonexistent, and Aaron Jones wasn't even hardly used.

On Monday night I want to see Jones on the field. I want to see him lined up ALL OVER, in the backfield by himself and with Dillon. I want motion, motion, and more motion, and I want to see Jones involved EARLY and OFTEN. Last season getting Williams or Dillon on the field WITH Jones proved to be lethal in most cases. Funny thing was MLF doesn't seem to stay with Lethal all the time. IF something works run it until they prove they can stop it!

PLEASE no "Hero Ball" from Rodgers. Playing within the system last year, taking what is open for a 7 yard gain on 1st down made you one of the best and highest scoring offenses in the NFL last season. The Packers may be competing against a undermanned Lions team on Sunday, but that was supposed to be the case last week too. If Rodgers has another game like he dd last Sunday on Monday night, then I'm afraid Michael Irvin was right (Which I hate when it happens). If Monday looks anything like last Sunday, then Rodgers should have retired.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 18, 2021 at 09:45 am

Mini-rant....

I know to most people it doesn't matter, and I'll get down voted into oblivion, but could we PLEASE stop with "Arron" Rodgers, Dean "Lowery", and A.J. "Dillion"? These aren't particularly difficult names to spell correctly.

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NickPerry's picture

September 18, 2021 at 10:31 am

My bad...

There we go... I fixed Dillons spelling and you're right, not difficult at all. But "brain farts" happen, especially at like 4:30 AM or whatever time it was when I made the initial comment...

Okay so ... Just run the damn ball!!

I gave you a Thumbs UP!

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 18, 2021 at 12:42 pm

Ditto....on the thumbs up AND "Just run the damn ball!!"

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Matt Gonzales's picture

September 18, 2021 at 10:55 am

I am sad I have but one thumb up to give you.

Running the ball early and often is going to be the cure for all that ails the Packers right now. If they don't show NOW that they can run decisively and force the defense to account for it, it's going to be 2015 -18 redux all over again. This is a team with one of the better RB tandems in the league - if teams are able to so easily remove them from the game plan, the Packers will be lucky to even sniff .500.

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CoachDino's picture

September 19, 2021 at 12:53 am

couldt agree more. ar turned his performance from good to mvp by playing within the mlf scheme, what else changed from then to last year? his empty set, buy time with his legs days are over, age has taken its toll, yet in the mlf scheme he should still excel. ps...a down year for ar not only deminishes the chances for success but his trade value as well...

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Bure9620's picture

September 18, 2021 at 11:09 am

You forgot the niners on the road right after.....

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packer132's picture

September 18, 2021 at 12:47 pm

Who cares about the 49ers today? It's a one game season with just beating Detroit. After the win, look to see who is next.

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Bure9620's picture

September 18, 2021 at 03:12 pm

If only there were an NFL schedule put together to whom was next

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NickPerry's picture

September 20, 2021 at 06:45 am

EXACTLY why the run game is so important, especially against the 49ers. A run game would slow that pass rush down just enough I'd say.

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Coldworld's picture

September 18, 2021 at 07:38 am

I’m going to go in to this with an open mind on LaFleur and Barry as well as Rodgers. Was last week simply an aberration or are back room and attitudinal deficiencies going to blow up what is on paper a very good roster. This week will not tell us everything, but it should put the first game into some perspective, good or bad.

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stockholder's picture

September 18, 2021 at 07:56 am

So- Where were the money players last week? This team has a problem, and its in their heads. Yep - Show me the money. Guys want more. But what about better. Playing in front of a home crowd. This game will answer that. If they don't win. The judgement will be fast. As it should be. The Packers have run out of excuses.

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Packers0808's picture

September 18, 2021 at 08:15 am

There is no getting around Barry is a head scratcher and definite mistake to be a hire as a coach.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

September 18, 2021 at 06:21 pm

Ummm… maybe. One game and the offense AND defense looked like crap? Not sure you can put that all on Barry. He’s part of the problem, but one piece of a bigger problem.

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Since'61's picture

September 18, 2021 at 10:09 am

Stockholder made a good point. Where are the money players? This team really doesn't have any because they never show up in crunch time and that has included Rodgers in many post season games. This team needs and has needed field leadership forever.

Who will step up this week and take the leadership roles on offense and defense? Yes the coaches need to prepare the players to win but once the opening kickoff happens it's time for the team leaders on the field to take over. Rodgers, Jones, Adams need to lead the way on offense. Clark, P. Smith, Gary, Alexander, Amos need to lead the defense. Some or all of them need to show up and lead on their respective side of the ball.

The team is too soft and passive in what is a violent sport. Controlled but violent nonetheless. They need to play with confidence in their system and with belief in what they are doing. None of that was evident last week. They have the talent to play with confidence, to be aggressive and to have a sense of urgency. I don't know if this is a must win but it is definitely a should win game. I'm expecting the Packers to show up on MNF. GPG! Thanks, Since '61

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Leatherhead's picture

September 18, 2021 at 10:56 am

Rodgers, for better or worse, is the leader of this team.

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Since'61's picture

September 18, 2021 at 02:48 pm

Yes that is correct and as I replied on a previous thread that is part of the problem. Rodgers should not be the only leader. He is unquestionably the leader of the offense. But the defense also needs and should have a field leader. Both sides of the ball should have 2 or 3 field leaders.

If Rodgers has a bad game the rest of the team should not disintegrate. Other players should step up and help to pick him. Whether it's on the offense and/or the defense. That is what the team concept is supposed to be about.

if we expect to win a championship we need a defense that is going to get us through at least a game or two when the offense struggles, especially during the playoffs. If we are unable to stop a quality opponent and get off the field we will continue to have disappointment in the playoffs. Our defense desperately needs a Nitschke, Reggie White, Nick Collins, Woodson type of player and leader. That would not only improve our defense it will help our offense to realize that they don't need to score on every possession especially when we fall behind early in a game.

Bart Starr would take sacks on 3rd down rather than throw a pick because he was confident that his defense would get the ball back for him and he would live to play another series without hurting the team's chance to win the game. It would be great if we could have that level of confidence in our defense again at some point.
Stay well. Thanks, Since '61

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Leatherhead's picture

September 18, 2021 at 04:53 pm

So we need six HOFers on defense?

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LeotisHarris's picture

September 18, 2021 at 08:13 pm

Sure as hell couldn't hurt, but for Monday night I'd be happy with hard, solid tackling and a D that swarms to the ball.

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Since'61's picture

September 18, 2021 at 09:05 pm

Yes, that would definitely be enough for Monday night and for the rest of the season. I'm not going to hold my breath. Thanks, Since '61

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Since'61's picture

September 18, 2021 at 09:14 pm

At this point I would thrilled if we had one HOFer on defense. Jaire Alexander maybe if he continues to play as well as he has early in his career. But we really need a great player either on the DL, ILB or OLB.
Thanks, Since '61

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PhantomII's picture

September 18, 2021 at 09:43 pm

Name 1

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jurp's picture

September 18, 2021 at 06:21 pm

By virtue of his exalted status, Rodger WILL NOT LET anyone else on offense lead. How can they when Rodgers controls the playcalls and his deathstare? Are you seriously suggesting that Adams or Jones get in Rodgers' face when he throws a pick or changes a run to a pass? GTFOH

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Since'61's picture

September 18, 2021 at 09:19 pm

If you think getting in someone's face over a play call is leadership then you don't understand what I'm talking about or what leadership is about. Thanks, Since '61

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Philarod's picture

September 20, 2021 at 12:29 pm

Adams and Jones are both very good players, but how much leadership did they show in the NFC Championship Game last season? Did they even play well? That would be all the leadership I'd like to see from them.

And don't shoot me, because he's quite good, but I have never seen DA as close to the best WR in the NFL. Certainly not from a talent/skill perspective.

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Fabio's picture

September 18, 2021 at 02:48 pm

Hello from '61
I will say a banality!
The game of MLF is mostly based on running and short range passes to open the game to big shows ..... all of which involves running the game and consuming time. This also provides that generally the team leads in scoring, but above all that the D is good.
Now, what I've seen is that:
1 - This team against the big teams, failed to run the game;
2 - When we are under in the score and we cannot afford to consume time and we need to find great plays quickly, we have big problems (maybe lack of talent?);
3 - Do we have a D ???
we resolve these points, our chances will never be high.
Last little vent ....
One of the fundamental things that must be part of the baggage of a coach is to be able to keep the tension of the team high and therefore also the motivations (in Italy it is called grit) Now, it can happen that once the team does not take the field with the right motivation, but when a team repeatedly has "gaps" like in the last match against NO (and other cases like last season) then this means that:
1 - players have big limits
2 - the coaches have big problems
Greetings from Italy
Go Pack Go

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Johnblood27's picture

September 19, 2021 at 09:06 am

Grit?
In Italy?

The land of over-acting and flopping on the ground when touched by an opponent?

C'mon man!

PS - I am of solid Italian heritage, but I still learned the lessons of the Italian army from WWII...

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Fabio's picture

September 19, 2021 at 11:31 am

Given that I have specified that grit is a term used to describe the impetus of the game (he did not say that the Italians play with grit or are gritty !!!!)
I would beg you (with all due respect) to let go of the war (I could tell you things that you would definitely not like), I don't think this is the right place to talk about these things

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Bure9620's picture

September 18, 2021 at 10:32 am

I know Jermichiael Finley's comments will likely be treated as a ridiculous hot take or him seeking attention, but I agree with him to an extent. Rodgers does not have the "win at all costs" desire at all now. He is more comfortable giving strange interviews and making evasive comments while looking "cool" with his man bun. It may not be week 4 but it would not at all shock me to see the Packers turn to Love this season. I think the Lions game will be very ugly, terrible defense again but we eke out a win simply because the Lions personnel is terrible. After we get waxed in California again the following week....questions will begin. I think there is a very high likelihood this team begins 1-3. This guy is checked out, it is not difficult to see. We will see this season if Lefleur is a true leader of men and manager of personalities or simply an X's and O's guy. Does he have the balls to bench QB/GM?

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jurp's picture

September 18, 2021 at 06:24 pm

IMO, MLF can't bench (not start) AR without Gutekunst's okay. If AR still has a passer rating below 50 after the Lion's game, I think he should not start for the 9ers game, with the message "get your head out of your ass or you will be Love's backup for the rest of the year." If he retires, too effing bad - at least the cancer will be gone.

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Bure9620's picture

September 18, 2021 at 07:07 pm

Um Well that would throw a wrench even further into the division of this structure....The Head Coach cannot bench a player without the approval of the GM??? A GM whom does not hire or fire the Head Coach and reports to the same person the Head Coach does?? I have never heard of such a thing....ever...

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Coldworld's picture

September 19, 2021 at 08:36 am

I doubt it’s Gute’s say either way. LaFleur reports to Murphy just as Gute does. This is Murphy’s call as the compromise brokered between them likely was too. As far as Rodgers goes, I don’t see him as cracked out, just living in a false reality built of his own hype and entourage.

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flackcatcher's picture

September 19, 2021 at 11:43 am

The fact is Lafleur reports to Gutekunst and has since he was hired. The problem was Murphy, and the Packer executive committee took care of that by stripping Murphy of most of his oversite role in 2019. Remember Murphy's announcement in a press release of him 'stepping away' from on the field operations. There is a question of what responsibility Murphy does have in the football side of 1265. I suppose the fans (those who care) will have to wait until Murphy's retirement.

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Bure9620's picture

September 19, 2021 at 11:55 am

Russ Ball, Matt Lefleur and Brian Gutekunst all report to Mark Murphy (and Ed Policy)

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flackcatcher's picture

September 19, 2021 at 12:31 pm

The fact is no one outside 1265 knows the reporting structure on the football side considering Murphy. What they put on their website, and how they act are two very different things. Now I believe that Murphy has a role in the football side of the house, but since the executive committee stepped in and forced Murphy out of the on field operations, I can't tell what that is. Outside that, we don't know who Gute reports too on football matters. Under Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson they reported to both Bob Harlan/Mark Murphy and the executive committee. I thought they restored the previous structure with Gutekunst's hiring, and that was mostly the fight between him and Murphy was about. Mark Murphy ran a power play and lost, otherwise he would be the Packer's equivalent of Jerry Jones. (de-facto owner) The cleanup is always messy... (But Murphy has done a fine job on the business side. That must be factored in when looking at the total picture. Policy is an unsung hero on that side of organization and when Murphy retires will be a strong candidate for the next Packer President)

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flackcatcher's picture

September 19, 2021 at 11:56 am

I also think Murphy is being used as a scapegoat by the executive committee over the Rodger's contract. Murphy was the executive committee's agent in dealing with Rodgers back in 2017, they knew what his contract would do to the Cap. Murphy may have pushed the deal, but they (the executive committee) didn't have to sign off on it. So Murphy is their agent once again dealing with Rodger's threats not to play, however, the real power is with Gutekunst as GM. That's why Rodgers went after Gute so hard, because he has no leverage over him. God help the next team who signs Rodgers.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 20, 2021 at 02:30 am

There was nothing wrong with AR's contract. As usual, Mahommes, Josh Allen, and Prescott blew by it just two years later by 20 to 30%. So did Watson and Wilson, though not by as much.

AR's contract was just a reasonable deal at the market price.

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flackcatcher's picture

September 20, 2021 at 06:21 pm

At the time I thought the timing of the contract was strange, with Thompson clearing 17? million of the Cap. And let's remember that signing Rodger's ate 17% of the total Cap for a player who looked to be on the down slope of his career. Still, while Rodgers became the highest paid player in the league, it was a price the organization was willing to live with at the time. (I still don't understand why the executive committee thought they needed to hide Murphy's role in contract talks)

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Philarod's picture

September 20, 2021 at 12:37 pm

Cool.
A 3-time league MVP who has been the best QB in the NFL (I may concede second-best to Brady, but Rodgers - in what he can control - has outplayed Brady in both the regular season and the playoffs, and with overall lesser pieces) , and at times, willed the team to even be in a position to contend is now a cancer?!

Did he seem motivated last year?
Did he play not only okay, but at an almost consensus MVP level?

Yes, last Sunday, was arguably his worst regular season performance ever - in line with a team that got thoroughly outplayed and outcoached in every department.

With Rodgers' track record, I think we can give it several weeks without arriving at that judgment.

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barutanseijin's picture

September 20, 2021 at 02:54 pm

Oh come on. Rodgers has outplayed Brady once: in that beautiful Sunday night game in 2014. Rodgers & Co. blew a chance for a rematch later that season. (And yes, Rodgers played poorly in that game, as he has in all his NFCCG). Since then, he’s been racking up stats while Brady has been picking up rings.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

September 18, 2021 at 06:24 pm

Not sure if Rodgers has checked out, but I don’t think we will really see the complete MLF system until Love is the starter. I still think there is too much leeway for Rodgers to change the play.

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Jackwagon's picture

September 18, 2021 at 11:06 am

2 misspelled words in the headline. Geez...

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dobber's picture

September 18, 2021 at 04:28 pm

"Are they starting two offensive linemen? Yep."

I'm pretty sure they're starting 5, but if they only started two against the Saints, that would explain a lot.

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Since'61's picture

September 18, 2021 at 09:21 pm

Cookie! Thanks, Since '61

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LeotisHarris's picture

September 18, 2021 at 08:38 pm

Historically, that whole when a one-syllable verb ends in vowel + consonant, double the final consonant and add "-ing" rule hasn't been covered very well in University of Iowa masters degree programs. Also, maybe Cory was referring to the use of runes, I don't know. It would be an odd take on the game, but there have been stranger spins tossed out to the CHTV faithful.

I think the word dollop may have several acceptable spellings. Here, Cory is using "dollup" - the 16th century middle English word meaning "some but not a lot." It's fortunate he steered clear of dollip, dollep, dollap, and dollope, because those could have made the headline obscene and subject to FCC action. Dodged a bullet.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 19, 2021 at 03:39 am

I can't find dollup, dollep, or dollope in the dictionary. Dollap appears only as a reference to the Dollap Channel. Looks like just a 20% chance of that bullet being a problem.

Dollip is not what I would call a word, but google has a reference to the urban dictionary. Being rather staid, most of my knowledge of such terms comes from watching British comedians, primarily Jimmy Carr.

Thanks to you I now know a definition for the term. I suppose I've expanded my knowledge base?

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splitpea1's picture

September 18, 2021 at 11:45 am

Now that Barry has had the opportunity to see what some of the presumed starters look like in real action, he will hopefully make the proper adjustments and make the right decisions regarding personnel. I think fans maybe went a little bit overboard dumping on him, given that he was trotting his starting unit out there for the first time, including preseason, against one of the best offensive head coaches in the game. But things better improve quickly.

Even with a couple of new starters on a reshuffled OL, putting up plenty of points against the Lions defense shouldn't be problem (hopefully!).

Anything less than a comfortable win here is going to make people very nervous about where we're headed this season.

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Difer's picture

September 18, 2021 at 12:50 pm

The mental and physical lethargy demonstrated by the Packers this season is the direct byproduct of Mark Murphy's decision (executed by Gutekunst) to stubbornly refuse to trade Rodgers IMO. Rodgers does not want to be on the Packers any longer after years of FO and coaching blunders and playoff futility. When a very well-paid and productive player wants desperately to get off a team, the result is like a fart in a crowded elevator. it affects everybody - not in a good way. Murphy, please, just trade the guy and move on with whatever plans you think you have going forward.

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jhtobias's picture

September 18, 2021 at 04:03 pm

Well said and until they admit this game over for this season. If the Homer Honks give you a thumbs down it is just because they refuse to admit that superman is not the greatest chap ass grudge holder ever

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Johnblood27's picture

September 19, 2021 at 09:11 am

This is me NOT piling on here...

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flackcatcher's picture

September 19, 2021 at 12:50 pm

The Cap is the answer. Bottom line is the Packers would take too great a hit and cripple the roster even beyond the time it would to clear the Cap. On CHTY we've been dealing with this before last season ended. Rodgers would have to in effect take a pay cut for a trade this year, and that's not going to happen. Even then the Cap hit before June would be massive. Both the Packers and Rodgers want to be done with each other, but that can't happen until next this season is done. (Both TGR and dobber have explained this far clearer that I have here...)

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 20, 2021 at 03:11 am

I mentioned that if the Packers started 2-5 they should trade AR prior to the trade deadline (November 2). Probably should off-load several more players, including Davante Adams. GB gains $600K+ in cap space by moving AR for 2021 and $19.3M prior to the 2022 new league year for 2022. AR's cap number for the acquiring team would be just over $400K for 2021, but there would probably be a new contract involved.

For Adams, GB gains over $7.5M and perhaps a 1st or a 2nd round pick with something extra by trading Adams prior to the deadline.

Packers play Thursday, Oct. 28. They will have played NO, Detroit, SF, Pittsburgh, Cincy, Washington and Arizona. If they have 5 losses to those teams, it is time to pull the plug, absent an injury explanation, and probably even if there is an injury explanation.

GB plays KC, Seattle, MN, LAR, Bye, Chi., Balt., Cleveland, MN, and Detroit. That's a tough second half slate of games.

It is early days yet. GB could easily be the winner of this division, so that's a factor.

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flackcatcher's picture

September 18, 2021 at 01:14 pm

The only real question is when will Gutekunst as GM make his move on Barry. My guess is Barry has maybe two games to prove he can run the defense. And if Gute forces Barry's removal as GM, then how will Lafleur react. The whole season could become go sideways fast. Yeah, the Lions game could be the season for this year's team. And that's not including the Rodger's show which I think gets righted this Monday night. (Goodness I hope Barry gets the defense righted. Otherwise, we could see an outright rupture between Gute and Lafleur. I never thought one game would be so important so early...)

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

September 18, 2021 at 06:27 pm

Did you also see the offense look like complete crap last week? Was that Barry’s fault too? I don’t know if Barry is a good choice or not yet, but there were more issues last week than just Joe Barry.

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Demon's picture

September 19, 2021 at 10:38 am

You are right there are more problems than just Joe Barry. A general lack of talent on the defensive being top of the list.

The reason why the D gets so much crap and the O gets a pass this week is I think most of us believe the O will get righted very soon.

Does anyone here think that D with that coordinator is capable of being a top unit? I certainly Don't!

A recycled failed D coordinator and below average talent at most positions doesn't normally equal a top D.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 19, 2021 at 01:36 pm

Below average talent? At most positions?

Clark? Alexander? Amos? Savage? Smith? Smith? Gary?

That’s over half the starting defense and doesn’t even include our #1 draft pick.. Below average? Really?

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I’m pointing this out. Again. Much of this defense has played together for the past two years, during which time we’ve made the Championship game twice. Last year, it held 10 opponents to 21 or fewer points and had top ten rankings in numerous measures of defense. Additionally, in the loss that ended our season, we held the opponent to about 65 yards rushing,we held theGOAT Brady to a passer rating of about 80 and got three takeaways.

Since LaFleur came to town, the only times we’ve surrendered over 30 points have been games which featured poor offensive play AND multiple turnovers. That’s a fact.

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flackcatcher's picture

September 19, 2021 at 12:56 pm

I said the Rodger's show gets righted Monday night. Of course that included the offense. Gee.....

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jhtobias's picture

September 18, 2021 at 04:01 pm

I love how everyone here says Lafleur needs to grow a pair and tell Rodgers what he thinks this is laughable.

Gute and Murphy make these calls not Lafleur .. Never make a person play where they don't want to be. I will never accuse Rodgers of Tanking , but it is fair to ask if his heart is in this right now and that becomes very dangerous.

This really is simple your not a contender with a hof quarterback who doesn't want to be here if that is the case. As for the salary implications for this year it is a wash your paying him 27 million to play here to be benched to be traded live with it . Next year your eating 26 million in dead money to be traded or paying him 46 million to play here live with it.

If Rodgers lays an egg Monday then you really need to ask yourselves what is the future of this team starting week 3 . The O-line was fine not elite , but when you have a hof extremely well paid qb the o line playing fine is enough

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jurp's picture

September 18, 2021 at 06:28 pm

We'll see on Monday, but if his performance is as horrendous then as it was against the Saints then, yes, he's tanking, probably wanting to get cut so that he chooses his own team.

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joejetson's picture

September 18, 2021 at 10:59 pm

I assume they will beat Detroit handily, because they always do. But after last week's debacle, this team gives one an uneasy feeling. The real barometer will be if they get clobbered in SF the following week. If/when that happens, Rodgers gonna' have some 'splainin to do.

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bjkdad44's picture

September 19, 2021 at 08:23 pm

“They always do”... REALLY???

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mrtundra's picture

September 19, 2021 at 08:49 am

With Z out, Gary has to step up his game and pressure Goff, a lot! Clark too. Detroit is no push over and those who think we will beat them soundly have not been paying attention. GO PACK, GO!

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Johnblood27's picture

September 19, 2021 at 09:17 am

Exactly.

Detroit is far from a talented team at this point, but they showed that they will not give up and will play hard. Something the Packers showed little of last week.

I hope its a 63-0 game. I love blow outs in GB favor. This will not be that week, Detroit took a great deal of "hope" from last weeks loss and they will be on the national stage Monday night.

Expect a hard fought game which, if the GBP players decide to compete in, they should win. It should stay at a 1-2 score differential throughout with some doubt still in the balance as the game winds down.

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September 19, 2021 at 01:03 pm

Yup. Division game and the Lions have always played well vs the Packers. Never take a division game lightly. (Packers vs Vikings at Lambeu. Zimmer outschemed and outcoached both Lafleur and Pettine and boat raced the Packers out of the stadium. What an ugly game...)

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