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Connecting the Dots: Packers Scouting Former Auburn QB Kiehl Frazier

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Connecting the Dots: Packers Scouting Former Auburn QB Kiehl Frazier

Scouring the internet on Thursday, I came across this on Twitter:

Jay Derby is the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Ouachita Baptist, a Division II program in Arkadelphia, Arkansas.

Ouachita Baptist is so far off the radar of the casual observer, it didn't even make the list of pro days scheduled on CBS's, the website of record when it comes to the NFL Draft.

But credit the Packers and their scouting department for doing their due diligence on a player that can be considered a diamond in the rough.

The quarterback at Ouachita Baptist this past season was Kiehl Frazier, a transfer from Auburn.

Frazier was a highly-touted quarterback coming out of high school. Very highly touted. Good enough to be named the USA Today's National Offensive Player of the Year and one of the top quarterbacks in the nation by numerous scouting services.

In 2011 and 2012 Frazier was a duel-threat quarterback in the toughest conference in America, the SEC, but he struggled. He had a two-to-10 touchdown-to-interception ratio and lost his grip on a starting job.

Frazier switched positions to defensive back and then again to wide receiver. After Auburn's appearance in the BCS national championsip in 2013, however, he decided to transfer and give quarterback another try.

In an interview with Bruce Feldman of Fox Sports, Frazier talked about how he lost confidence, which led to his downfall:

"Going out every Saturday, if you're not 100 percent confident then you're not gonna be successful. I really struggled with it, and as a 19-year-old sophomore it was tough to deal with.

"After we started off bad at Auburn, I felt like a lot of the coaches didn't believe in me. I felt like the team was still on my side, but the coaches didn't really think I could do it, so that factored into me leaving too."

Note the key phrase Frazier used: "19-year-old sophomore," which is precisely why a team like the Packers is digging deeper.

It's pretty difficult to stick a fork in a 19 year old, especially one that offered so much promise.

In his lone season at Ouachita Baptist, Frazier completed 144 of 245 passes (58.8 percent) for 2,051 yards, 19 touchdowns and five interceptions. He added 702 rushing yards (5.5 ypc) and four touchdowns on the ground.

By no means did one good season at a Division II football program quell all the concerns about Frazier and make him worthy of being taken in the NFL Draft. But it made him deserving of a second look.

No one can blame the Packers scouting department for not turning over every rock in their quest to uncover football talent from signing linebackers from the Indoor Football League to researching overlooked quarterbacks.

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ben's picture

Anybody got anything impressive on any ILB prospect? So far, kendricks, dawson, perryman, mckinney, & anthony all bore me. Don't think I'd draft any of them in the 1st 2 rounds. Maybe Kendricks?

The best ILB I've seen so far is Ben Heeney from Kansas.

Ted should be looking to make a move to upgrade the other ILB position. Sam barrington is just a guy. ILB, along with NT, is clearly the weakest position on the entire team. The best thing the Packers can do for the ILB position is to sign SUH & RAJI to play in front of whoever ends up in there. Expect Clay to play inside a lot more next year. Kiko Alonso would have been spectacular and worthy of paying a heavy price for. Rolando McClain is the only free agent worth a look.

I personally would have paid the price for Kiko and now look to trade for another good ILB who can step in now. Barring a trade, move Perry inside with Matthews, Peppers to RLB, & Neal to LLB. Perry is the most stout LB against the run and could thrive in there. He runs a 4.5 40 and could turn and run no worse than hawk, jones, or barrington. Peppers' natural pass-rush is from the right side, Neal from the left.


Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

Just so I understand, TT will sign Suh, MM will move Perry inside, and Ha Ha will be beat out by Hyde? Sounds really likely.


ben's picture

That's what you all said when I said at this very time last year the Packers should sign Jared Allen or Julius Peppers to play OLB so we could shore up the middle by moving Clay Matthews inside where he would excel.

After Peppers was signed, most of you also said that I was crazy to say Peppers would play linebacker not defensive-end.

After Matthews shored up the Packers run defense by moving inside I'd think most of you would learn that when you disagree with me you should just bite your tongue. Except for 4th and 1 and dannybs, they'll never figure it out.

4thand1's picture

I'll never figure out crazy.

ben's picture

"perry has no ILB ability whatsoever" ?

The #1 duty of the Packer's next starting ILB playing next to Clay will be to STOP THE RUN.

And if you were to emerge from your own little ignorant world you'd notice that I just said that Nick Perry is thee Stoutest LB again the run the Packers have, and he is.

" ILB ability whatsoever." Listen to yourself you freaking moron, then listen to me.

NewNikeShoes's picture

Whoa, kids hold off the name calling.
Danny is right tho, we already have a thumper(Barrington), and we don't need another. We need a coverage specialist. If u watched the Packers game, and I know you have, our ILBs sucked because they couldn't cover or tackle. Perry in the middle would have us be able to stop the run proficiently, but unable to stop the pass.

I would actually be okay with our ILBs being CM, Barrington, and a pick(not just them, but you know what I mean). We could move CM around, and still be proficient without him cause we would have an adequate duo.

ben's picture

Danny is right, we already have barrington? even danny wouldn't say that. Where are you pulling that out of? your arse? He didn't say anything remotely close to that. He did say some dumb stuff but it wasn't that dumb stuff.

a thumper? since when is Sam Barrington a thumper? Barrington is the next jamari lattimore. A guy.

Perry runs a FASTER! 40 than haha dix. (& a FULL TENTH OF A SECOND! FASTER! in just the 1ST 10 YARDS! with an extra 1/2 FOOT! on his vertical) I think he could drop into a few zones and run with some TE's. Not to mention my original fact that Perry is the best of all the Packer linebackers at beating or standing up blocks and making tackles. (next to clay of course)

If you need a linebacker who can cover, like I said this time last year, Clay Matthews can cover as good as any linebacker in the game. Clay Nitschke........ REMEMBER?

ben's picture

my point remains. Perry is fast for a linebacker and can run. What about their 10 yard splits which is so important in football, or vertical? If I was so wrong you wouldn't have to omit 2/3 of what I said.

Your a chump danny. A mental chump.

FITZCORE1252's picture

Measurables would be a nice addition in player piece like this imo.

Icebowler's picture

Just glad to hear the Packers are looking in every nook and corner.

4thand1's picture

Hope they look in a few crannies too. I always wondered WTF is a cranny?

NewNikeShoes's picture

That's probably where the Lions will win a superbowl

ben's picture

actually I think that is where dannyboy pulls all of his dannyBS out of...........Out of his dannycranny.

NitschkeFan's picture

It's been a "no real news" time of year for Packer fans so I can see a few guys getting testy.

But take it easy and keep it civil for the sake of this site. We can all enjoy it a lot more if we take out our frustration of Bears fans :)

Why not keep Mathews inside and draft an OLB since everyone seems to think the OLB class is this years draft is much better than the ILB class?

J0hn Denver's Gavel's picture

Ben plays too much Madden and doesn't watch enough football games. These are some of the dumbest comments said by a Packer's fan this offseason that I've seen. As bad as LaMichael James.

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