CHTV talks Packers, Rodgers and much more on PFF Forecast
The Pro Football Focus crew somehow invited Aaron to appear on one of their podcasts.
By PackerAaron
This was a lot of fun. Big time thanks to George and Eric for having me on.
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Comments (11)
Bure9620
September 01, 2020 at 10:24 am
Good Job Aaron, what a couple of pompous jerks. They have clearly never played ANYTHING at a high level...If someone told me my entire pro hockey career can be explained by math projections, I would laugh in their face......you cannot decipher football with analytics and metrics alone...they are a tool to show trends......this is where analytics people lose me....a win is a win.....I don't care if the score is 3-2 with zero first downs.....there is no such thing as a fraudulent win.....
dobber
September 01, 2020 at 10:05 am
The 'success' of analytics in baseball (which, frankly, it has ruined for the viewer) has led to its proliferation across sports. I think you can look for tendencies, but that's about all it's good for in football. 11 v. 11 on the field is much different, with far more game-planning and variability involved, than 1 pitcher v. 1 hitter.
PackerAaron
September 01, 2020 at 10:45 am
Very much agreed, dobber. There are certainly areas where analytics can play a valuable role in football, but it's a much harder game to quantify with all its variables.
Pulpfriction01
September 01, 2020 at 10:09 pm
I think metrics are more important than people give them credit for. An individual's metrics are only a small piece of the puzzle. But when combined as a whole, they are very solid. There is always a chance that there is a statistical outlier, and a "win is a win." But green bay was a perfect example of that last year. They were a statistical outlier. Their production did not match their record. Which some would interpret as the stats not mattering. But the stats said no team has ever won a superbowl with team stats as bad as green bays. The closest, also being an outlier, was the 2007 giants. And the stats held true when green bay was spanked handily in the playoffs. A single game is anecdotal evidence. It's practically worthless. The body of work has held very consistent when it comes to winning championships.
mnbadger
September 01, 2020 at 09:49 am
I don't watch many of the podcasts but was excited to see Aaron address his differences with PFF team. He killed it. He was passionate yet honest. Especially in these times, I admire that he could display both characteristics. He defined "Carrying the G!" GPG
greengold
September 01, 2020 at 02:53 pm
They clearly forgot to fold in the loss of 3 starting WRs and 4 of his starting 5 OL in 2019 for Jordan Love...the truth is the truth. Really great point, Aaron, on picking a QB when you don't need one being the best model, and their chastising GB for doing so.
Nice work, carrying the G!!!
jannesbjornson
September 01, 2020 at 06:50 pm
Include the loss of his previous head coach, MIke Wells and cutting edge offensive coordinator David Yost. Imagine if you had to deal with Gary Andersen?
theoz49
September 02, 2020 at 11:06 am
Good job, Nags
JGPACK
September 01, 2020 at 07:58 pm
I was at the Ahman Green 99yd run game too. Really memorable
LayingTheLawe
September 01, 2020 at 11:01 pm
Analytics are good for predicting season long trends but have more difficulty in looking at shorter timespans like a single game. In the NFL teams are so close that twice the 13 win Packers had to use last second plays to beat the 3 win Lions. I don't personally care for analytics other than for fantasy prediction. Maybe I just prefer the emotion of football but I feel that there is a lot to say about a team's chemistry and confidence as being a part of the "winning formula". You communicated that well I felt.
PackfanNY
September 02, 2020 at 07:04 am
Aaron nailed it. All you really needed to know was that these guys didn’t have Davante in their top NFC North receivers. Yes, I heard their excuse but as Aaron pointed out he lead in their alleged metrics. Again, emphasis on THEIR metrics. Fans will be fans after all.