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Authors Note:  Our friend and fellow writer Adam Czech was diagnosed with Stage IV Colon Cancer last week.  Adam wrote a must read story on his personal battle to beat this terrible disease.  If you have not read his story, My Real Life Hail Mary, it is must-read, and can be found here.  Good Luck To Adam and his family;  literally our thoughts and prayers are with you.

Chicago Bears:   The Bears dropped an overtime heart-breaker at home this past week to a poor San Francisco 49’ers team all but killing their slim playoff hopes.  Yet it was the manner in which the Bears lost that was so disheartening.  The normally automatic Robbie Gould missed a chip shot field goal that would have won the game only to see the Niners complete a 71-yard bomb to seal the victory shortly afterward.  It was a crushing defeat for Bears fans who were talking playoffs just days earlier.

Key Rankings:  The Bears are the 20th ranked offense in the NFL based on average yards per game, and only 24th in scoring offense.

Key Injuries: 14 players were on last week’s injury report and many remain on the current list including Martellus Bennett (ribs), Matt Forte (ankle) and Jay Cutler (head).  None are expected to miss time.  WR Kevin White remains out with a broken foot.

Vegas odds: The Bears opened as 1 favorites against the Washington Redskins at home but since moved to 3.5 after the ‘Skins dropped a home gimmee against the Cowboys.

Last Week:   Lost at home to SF

This Week:   At home vs. Washington

Season Record:  5 - 7

Place in NFC North:    3rd

Detroit Lions:  With a three game win streak tucked safely in their pockets, and feeling good about themselves after finally beating their old nemeses the Packers in November on the road, the Lions put up 17 straight points against the Packers in just the first quarter.  It was 20 straight before the Packers scored.  But the Lions being the Lions lost to the Packers on a walk-off Hail Mary with no time left effectively putting themselves out of playoff contention. 

For a team that won eleven games last season the current mess was certainly not anticipated.  Pity poor Sports Illustrated’ Doug Farrar for picking the Lions in the pre-season to win the NFC North and Chris Burke for spotting them second.  Note:  Farrar also chose the Falcons to win the NFC South, Seahawks in the West, and Eagles in the East.  Just goes to show the ‘experts’ have hiccups too.

With Martha Ford glaring down from her private box her off-season to-do list certainly now includes, if it didn’t previously, replacing the entire Lions coaching staff.  She hopes to get it right this time as opposed to merely re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic as has been done in the past. 

Good luck with that.

Key Rankings:  The Lions defense is the second worst team in the NFL when it comes to the opponents QB rating (103.5), and are fifth worst in scoring

Key Injuries:  WR Lance Moore is still battling ankle injuries.

Vegas Odds:  The Lions are 2.5 point underdogs to the Rams, since moved to 1.

Last Week:   Lost at home to the Packers

This Week:   At St. Louis Rams

Season Record:    4 - 8

Place in NFC North: 4th (last)

Minnesota Vikings:  The Vikings will have precious little time to lick their wounds from the 38 – 7 pounding that they endured at the hands of the Seattle Seahawks in Minnesota this past Sunday.  They head to the Valley of the Sun for a Thursday night meeting with the current number-two NFC seed Arizona Cardinals. 

After the game All-Pro running back Adrian Peterson was quoted as saying that the Vikings were out-coached by Seattle’s Pete Carroll and his staff.

The Vikings are technically still tied with the Packers for first place but lose out to the Packers in the tie-breaker (head-to-head) for playoff seeding.

Key Rankings: The Vikings face the NFL’s number one offense in the Cardinals (419.5  YPG average).  The Vikings running game has fallen from the top spot to number five averaging 136.8 YPG.  The Cardinals defense is ranked fourth allowing only 316.8 YPG, and is tied with the Vikings for the fourth best scoring defense allowing an average points per game of 19.3.

The Vikings will need their defense to show up this week against the NFL’s top scoring offense (31.8 PPG).  Arizona is the only team in the NFL boasting a top five offense and defense.

Key injuries:  The Vikings defense may again be without key contributors Linval Joseph, Harrison Smith and Anthony Barr.

Vegas odds:  The Vikings are 7.5 point underdogs on the road.

Last Week:   Lost to Seattle at home

This Week:   At Arizona

Season Record:   8 - 4

Place in NFC North:    Tied for first

Green Bay Packers:   With the Vikings graciously accommodating the Green Bay Packers by putting up a clinker at home to the Seahawks, the Packers move into the third spot in the playoff picture.  If the season ended today the Packers would open at home hosting the defending NFC Champion Seattle Seahawks who they defeated earlier this season.

Who do you cheer for on Thursday night Packers fans?

Should the Vikings lose it would give the Packers a full game lead with 4 games (3 ½ technically) to play.  But with the Pack playing two teams with losing records and hosting Minnesota in the final game of the season they hold their fate in their own hands. (Note; dispelling a popular cliché, they do not hold their destiny in their own hands, as destiny is defined as an event that will necessarily happen in the future).

However if the Packers hope to earn a bye (second seed) they would probably have to win out - which translates to a win over both the Vikings and Cardinals – and have the Cardinals lose at least one more game.  A tied record of 12 – 4 between the Cards and Packers would then see the Packers take the tie-breaker (head-to-head competition) for the second seed.

So Packers fans, how do want Thursday’s game to go? A Cardinals or Vikings win?

Key Rankings:  The Cowboys come into Lambeau Field with the number five ranked pass defense allowing just 222.4 YPG.  The Packers defense is the sixth stingiest in the league allowing an average of only 19.8 points per game.  The Packers offense in an anemic 22nd in total yards, 23rd in passing but 12th in scoring. The Dallas offense is the league’s fourth worst averaging only 18.6 points and is 5th worst in passing offense.

Key Injuries:  QB Tony Romo will again miss the game against the Packers (shoulder) and presumably journeyman Matt Cassel will again be under center.  CB Morris Claiborne and TE Jason Witten are also injured but expected to play. The Packers are banged up at several positions but maybe none more than the offensive line where Bryan Bulaga and T.J. Lang missed the Lions game, C Corey Linsley was reinjured and LT David Bakhtiari also was forced to leave the game but later returned. WR Ty Montgomery (ankle) remains injured with his game day status unknown and Damarious Randall who also missed the Lions game returned to practice on Tuesday.  Andrew Quarless is eligible to be activated off of IR and rumor is that he will suit-up against the Cowboys.

Vegas Odds: The Packers opened as 5 point favorites at home vs. the Cowboys but the line has since moved to 7.

Last Week:   Won at Detroit

This Week:   At home vs. Dallas

Season Record:    8 - 4

Place in NFC North:    Tied for First

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croatpackfan's picture

I would love Vikings to lose against Cardinals... As I explain, I think the decision game for the Packers should be the one against Cardinals. If they win, they might steel No. 2. If not they would grab No. 3 and WCG against Vikings or whatever other team that would be No 6 seed. I think Seattle will be No 5 seed and will heading to the Carolina for divisional round, where I expect them to win over Panthers. As I expect Packers to win against Arizona in divisional round and host the NFCCG at Lambeau!

Razer's picture

I am smelling a Packers/Seattle rematch in the first round of the playoffs. Not my preference because I think that Seattle and Arizona are solid teams. Unless we find some answers (other than Hail Marys) for this offense, it probably won't matter. Still, if the guy that everyone slammed as being too slow and unable to get separation - Richard Rodgers - can have a stellar night, maybe there is hope.

Bearmeat's picture

That's not likely Razer. Seattle's remaining schedule is no cakewalk, but it's easier than the Vikings. And while it's mathematically possible for Seattle to win the NFCW, it's very unlikely.

That means Seattle will probably be the 5 seed with MIN being 6. GB being the 3. Or GB is the 5 (loss at AZ and win other 3) and SEA is the 6.

Much more likely that Seattle plays either MIN or NFCE winner in round 1.

dobber's picture

Absolutely do NOT want to see Seattle again in 2015-16.

Bearmeat's picture

Don't worry. Looking ahead at the schedule of the 4 teams involved it's very unlikely. Except in the NFCCG at home. And if that's it bring it on.

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Nick Perry's picture

McCarthy has said that Lacy has had a really good week of practice, he seems "Rejuvenated" is what MM said. (Have we heard that one before?) Whatever happens from this point on is going to start with Lacy. Before Lacy running the ball in December was like playing MD Jennings at Safety, it just wasn't working! The last 2 years it was and did work. Lacy must get it going.

EVERYONE on this offense has struggled this year but no matter what, the Packers need an effective Lacy to do anything. I hate to beat a "Dead Horse" but Lacy has gained 85 yards or move the 4 times he's had at least 15 carries. I don't give a damn if he has 4 yards in 6 carries, AP starts games like that all the time. My point is if given the chance, Lacy WILL get his yards if they give him the ball. Without Lacy this offense will continue to struggle.

I'm losing hope of seeeing Montgomery on the field this year again. With that said I think Abby can help, Quarless might help, but Cobb and Adams are seeing one on ones all game long and HAVE to start to win. If not it won't matter WHO the Packers play in the playoffs if thy don't start to win their one on ones.

The defense has kept this team in just about every game. Even the disaster in Carolina the defense came through in the end to give the offense a chance. If the Detroit win didn't jump start these guys hearts nothing will I'm afraid. GO Pack!

Tundraboy's picture

Yes if the Hail Mary did not rejuvenate the entire team nothing will. I think it does but Dallas will show up too. After waiting years to play Dallas at home I hope that Packers still have a big chip on their shoulder as well. Go Pack Go

4thand1's picture

Are you talking regular season? Dallas is still whining about the non catch from last year. Anyway it wasn't a game deciding play and they shouldn't even have been playing in GB. They got a gift last year against the lolions, so STFP Jerry. Pack rolls in this one.

Tundraboy's picture

Yes regular season. Thanks for bringing up "catch". Amazing they are still whining considering all the bogus calls that have gone their way over the years, in Dallas. Now I'm even more riled up and hope Pack plays out of their minds this week.

dobber's picture

"Yes if the Hail Mary did not rejuvenate the entire team nothing will."

I thought the way they dominated at MIN and regained control of their fate would translate into continued improved play...and then we got the Chicago debacle.

I'd like to believe that the light will go on for this team and that we'll start to see more consistent play and productivity out of the offense. The second half against the Lions helps to build that hope. But until this team puts out sustained effort and can score points regularly, they're going to scuffle. I suspect Sunday will be another scuffle game...I think they win, but it won't be pretty.

Nick Perry's picture

I have the same feeling but I'm still hoping thta game like they had in 2010 is in them. "That Game" in 2010 was against the Giants, and they didn't lose again unti week 13 the following year.

It goes back to Veteran leadership and this team just doesn't have much. Cobb needs to step up, put in extra work and bring Adams with him. If those two turn it around we have a COMPLETELY different team.

I think without a doubt we can say the promotion Van Pelt received to coach the WR and QB's has failed horribly. This is his first year spliting the duties of QB's and WR's. Keep him at coaching QB's and QB's only because both positions have suffered.

Dan Stodola's picture

I have no problem w/ the veteran leadership. You don't think Peppers and Raji weren't showing that when the got into it w/ Clinton-Dix on the sidelines? I'm very sure Rodgers is seen as a leader by everyone on offense and I bet even Jordy, even tho injured is being a leader on the sidelines.

Sorry Nick, but you also cannot say tht Van Pelt has failed. You simply don't know enough to make that kinda statement. Your using anecdotal evidence at best to base that on and anecdotal evidence is crap. Again sorry to point this out, but only the players, other coaches and personnel people actually KNOW anything substantive to make a determination one way or another.

RCPackerFan's picture

'You don't think Peppers and Raji weren't showing that when the got into it w/ Clinton-Dix on the sidelines?'

One interesting thing is since that incident on the sidelines, Clinton-Dix has played very, very well...

Perhaps it was the leadership that took charge and let him know he needs to be better and he took it to heart.

Dan Stodola's picture

Exactly what I'm saying. Thanks RC

RCPackerFan's picture

Right now the Packers fate is in their hands. If they want to win the North, they just have to win. If they want to take the 2 seed which could be the most beneficial thing to the team, they have to win out, beating Arizona, and need 1 more loss by Arizona.

Arizona's next 4 games are vs Minnesota, @ Philadelphia, vs Green Bay, vs. Seattle

Minnesota's next 4 games are @ Arizona, vs. Chicago, vs. NY Giants, @ Green Bay

Right now I am thinking I would rather see Minnesota win against Arizona, because Arizona's next 3 out of 4 games are at home. I would like it if Green Bay could get that 2 seed, and if Green Bay wins out, they would get the 2 seed if Arizona loses 2.

4thand1's picture

The queens are cooked. Teams know the recipe for beating them. Stop the child beater because Teddy B sucks. The queens may even miss the playoffs.

Dan Stodola's picture

Its almost a given the Queens make the playoffs. Really the NFC playoff teams are relatively set w/ a month left in the season. It highly unlikely TB or ATL win out and get into the conversation. Right now it looks like Carolina, AZ, Packers, Seattle, Minn and the "winner" of the NFCLeast.

I just don't see a team beyond that capable of mounting a late season charge. My guess is Minn makes it as the 6th seed. They are fading, while Seattle is surging (not a good thing but reality).

Its possible the Packers get the #2 seed, but it seems like a pipedream, even if they win out. AZ is unlikely to lose to Minn and may not have anything to play for wk 17 vs Seattle.

RCPackerFan's picture

I tell you what though. Week 17 could be very, very exciting... Packers play Minnesota, and could be playing for the division. Arizona will be playing Seattle which could be playing for the 2 seed.
Could make for a very exciting end to the season.

4thand1's picture

queens 8-8. child beater calling out the coach publicly , QB is below average, o-line can't protect. D is banged up. TB gets to 9-7.

Dan Stodola's picture

That MIGHT be possible, but I just don't think TB is ready for a playoff push like that w/ a Rookie QB. They do have a favorable schedule playing NO, StL, Chi and the Panthers. They will have to win 4 games in a row to get there, and unless Carolina losses b4 then they will be playing for an undefeated record.

ray nichkee's picture

I don't get all this praise for Seattle just for whooping some ass in Minnesota.

4thand1's picture

Its what you did lately.

4thand1's picture

Its what you did lately.

ray nichkee's picture

I hope you ain't talking about me twice?

Dan Stodola's picture

I'm not praising seattle. But they are surging. 4-1 in their last 5 games kinda supports that don't you think? Or haven't you been paying attention to the rest of the NFL?

dobber's picture

Bears and Packers win this week, Lions and Vikes lose.

Packers and Doughboys are almost mirror images of each other: offenses that have lost key players, OL that have not lived up to the hype, underachieving players at skill positions. Both Defenses have carried these teams at times. I expect a low-scoring might be less than ideal. Packers 20, Doughboys 17.

Tarynfor12's picture

Hopefully the electrician was able to fix the light switch that is the Packers and it now has the ability to stay in the 'ON' position beginning 'this week'. Any flickering will simply mean darkness will come again.

4thand1's picture

Are you falling into the dark abyss of doom and gloom of cowpie world?

ray nichkee's picture

Do you mean she moved into cows moms basement?

ray nichkee's picture

Cow, you have yet to offer any proof that you are beyond low life scum that enjoys the miscomings of others to build up your self esteem, except for your post to Adam.

Tarynfor12's picture

Allow me to make some happy.

Every thing this team does is great. Even when they lose their great. Every player is great. The depth of the roster is great. This team can do now wrong and if/when they do it is part of the great plan for greatness.

Is that all it takes to be a 'true fan' like some?

ray nichkee's picture

We might be happy if you just shut up and enjoyed the games.

Tarynfor12's picture

Maybe you should do same and stop waiting for anything to rant hate for no reason other than someone disagrees or speaks what they believe to be true.

ray nichkee's picture

I have no hate, I just don't agree with stupid shit. I usually don't post my own thoughts on this team because when a comment is made that I agree with I hit the like button. When people say stupid shit I do respond. That should not make me a hater. You went after me for my non advanced technology approach to media. I don't call you names like that prick cow who loves to pour salt in wounds. My comments are for entertainment only and if you don't get it so be it. We all disagree about something on here but most of us can get along. Truth is in the eye of the beholder. Don't forget I have praised you in the past.

Go look at my comments on Cory jennerjohn. He is the love child of skip bayless and an entertainment tonight reporter. His writing is pure crap. That isn't hate. He writes his opinion. I think it sucks. He has been deleting posts of mine far better than what is said to cow. Do I hate him? No. I just think he is a coward with a bad opinion and writing style. Censorship is for cowards.

You taryn, are way above jennerjohn. We may actually get along if you don't mind subtle jabs here and there. Maybe even Cory but I'm not sure if his mouth stinks as bad as his writing.

Tarynfor12's picture

"You went after me for my non advanced technology approach to media."

You mentioned not being able to get a show on the radio and all I said was use the internet as you can get nearly any radio station. You decided to rant about your choice of buying Giga and where you live as if I should know that. I offered a solution only anything else was in response to your reply.
I don't call people names until I feel it necessary after being berated and called names by them. I voice my opinion and my opinion is usually met with automatic disdain simply for not being what is assumed to be the words of a true fan. Please tell me what so so horrible about my light switch comment that compelled you you reply as you did other than simply hate. since the use of a light going on,switch, has been used by others with no similar attack by you. I can move on..can you.

ray nichkee's picture

Your post is full of wrong. You viewed me automatically in a negative perspective.

I don't even know what a giga is. Maybe I can Google it. I did not say you were name calling. I simply stated I haven't called you names. I replied to 4thand1's post not yours but he replied to you so there is a chain. It was meant to be a slap in the face to cow not you.

By the way, I assume you aren't an electrician because if you want a switch permanently on you can remove the switch and wire it straight.

Can we just enjoy a cyber beer, toast, kiss and make up?

ray nichkee's picture

Pointing out your absurd intent is not hatred. You get ripped a new asshole all the time. It is comical, especially when you disappear. I dont hate you cow, I just think your posts suck and you enjoy the revolt against your comments. To call it hate is a farse. You have manned up like what, 3 times. Your 8,000+ dislikes says it all. Your sense of humor is different than mine.

4thand1's picture

LMFAO at all the thin skin. Ray when people post crap, we respond. Not meaning you have thin skin.

brewers_rule's picture

Enjoy the games? What team and fan base have you been watching the last 5 weeks? With every podcast I listen to lately, I'm discovering I'm in the minority of Pack fans who actually stay WITH the Lions game from start to finish AND felt somewhat positive before the 4th quarter about what I was seeing given the circumstances. Fans left the Bears game before it was over & we had a shot up to the clock stopping in that one too.

Where have all the #intedwetrust folks gone in the Packer blogoshere lately? They're the ones folks like Taryn are facing with these 'shut up and enjoy the game' comments (not saying you are one but that's typically what they've said to me in the past when I criticize this regime including my own family) and seeing people go 'We should still be able to win the division and even if we lose in the first round it should be a successful year' BS. Pointing out the fact this team constantly struggles to react quickly to needed changes & FIX things permanently, be it in the drafts where TT refuses to get a RB, safety, DT, or ILB for various years or in game where MM continues the 'we're fine' mantra as we lose big games or go on stretches like this without making simple adjustments is not something that should be shouted down because it IS a very valid point.

Making the playoffs and wins in this division don't mean anything anymore in today's NFL. Look at the NFC East. The freaking Seahawks won their division in 2010 w/a 7-9 record for crying out loud and someone in the NFCE is likely to do that again. Dominating the sad Lions/Vikings/Bears shouldn't be the measuring stick. We're better than that and have talent to win postseason games and SHOULD have more than 1 SB by now, wouldn't you say? Pointing out the fact this regime is becoming another Ron Wolf 'fart in the wind' as we waste away ANOTHER amazing QB's career should get louder, not shouted down. The terrible 80's are gone forever. We should be demanding like Patriot fans who watch their team do more with less every YEAR.

LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

Tarynfor 12, I've never responded to any of your posts. I think you're wrong on your assessment of this game. This game is not as Important as you are trying to make it. I would expect "Flickering" as you put it to occure. GB is Banged up pretty bad. In essence, we are making the Best of a Bad situation. Now is the time to "Flicker", not 3 weeks from now.

Actually, the reason I'm responding is, Your picture drives me nuts". I'd like to know what you really look like. Are you as Hot as that picture??LVT

4thand1's picture

Just watched the live MM press con. Said Eddie had a good day of practice yesterday, C. Lindsley was the only o-lineman not to practice. Said the two most important things right now are stopping the run and running the ball. I think he plans on pounding the rock more in Dec.

ray nichkee's picture

The 2010 packers!

4thand1's picture

Their passing game was pretty dam good ray. expect for the JJ drops and a couple by Jordy. JJ had 2 monumental drops that year, in Philly and the SB. Both would have been TD's.

ray nichkee's picture

I was just hoping he would follow through on his promise. If somebody mentions the 2010 packers again...

I only use the exclamation point in good need just so you know.

RCPackerFan's picture

'You guys and your playoff scenarios.
Good stuff.

What's the point?

It's about the Super Bowl, right?'

The last time I checked you have to get to the Super Bowl through the playoffs... So... Playoffs and scenario's are kind of an important part of the season.

Bearmeat's picture

Yeah. And add in that just a week ago Cow was saying this team would finish 6-10 or 7-9 and miss the playoffs entirely.

This is why I don't respond to his garbage. Others should do the same. It's like Donald Trump (the real one - not the CHTV poster) - people like that are just talking to get a reaction.

The best way to make a troll go away is to ignore them.

Dan Stodola's picture

No its not just the real Trump, its also the imposter on this site too. He makes no comments of substance (jusdt like the real tramp) and has one sided conversations only w/ people he "likes" and puts down people he doesn't. He's only here to get a reaction too.

ray nichkee's picture

Stroh, I have been fair with you. This is downright trolling and you know it. We can agree and disagree as usual. I love your support for my distaste for Cory jennerjohn or sally or butch, whoever it is, it sucks. I coined the name trolldola and have not sent trump a bill yet. You seem like a true fan and I ultimately appreciate it. When you leave trump alone I'm sure this will go away and things will get better. I hope this is therapeutic as it is meant to be. I have been into it with some here and try to resolve with peace and it has worked. Just ask the donald. If you don't enjoy his commentary at least admit you are a flaming ass liberal extremist. I myself claim no party but love freedom. Isn't that what its all about? This isn't meant to be an Adrian Peterskin style ass whooping. Its a call out for peace between you and trump. Can you both be men? The lawyers, judges, and DAs all party together afterwards. So does the house and congress. Can you?.

And if you don't get trump I will gladly explain it to you. Give it a chuckle. We have been through it before. Bert farve, quarless. We always end up in good terms. Please try it sometime. People like cow, ben, etc do suck. Don't be one of them.

Dan Stodola's picture

Whats trolling? I told the flat out truth and everyone here knows it! I didn't put him down, its well known you and MAYBE one or 2 others are the only people he likes, everyone esle he calls names. I didn't... He's been here before and has gone from one name to another. Been banned more times that I can remember.

The real troll is Mr trupm, er... Thompson trupms, er tWins, er bernie the baker, er ted tomsin... Do I really need to go on? Get real.

ray nichkee's picture

In my professional opinion stroh, you are ok in my book. I'm just asking for you to be nicer to my especially important friend with the worst hairdo to the east of my dogs poopy butt. I'm just asking you to be a little nicer, and not troll him. It makes you look worse than the rest of us trolling the worst troll of all...Cow!

Dan Stodola's picture

The only troll is mr tramp. ANd noone cares about your "special" relationship! He's been doing it since long before you showed up. trump, thompson trumps, ted tomsin, bernice the baker, and countless others! He said he was leaving only to show up yet again. He's worse than Cow, who at least doesn't call anyone names. Your "special" friend does it all the time and the fact your defending him makes you one too!

ray nichkee's picture

So...Cow still sucks I see. You are the cream of the crop. You outdid all the other useless sperm. What do you do for a living to make you think you are above your status?

RCPackerFan's picture

'There are Super Bowl contenders and their are playoff teams...'

The NFL is different now. Any team in the playoffs can make it to the super bowl. Yeah some teams squeak in, and really aren't going to do much once they are in the playoffs. But all it takes is for the team to get hot during the playoffs.
This has been going on for a quite a while.

Nick Perry's picture

The Giants

4thand1's picture

2010 Packers, 2010 Packers, 2010 Packers, 2010 Packers, 2010 Packers, 2010 Packers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ray nichkee's picture

I love your spirit.

pacman's picture

The biggest ? remaining is the passing game and receivers who can't get open.

Eddy can get motivated.
OLine can get healthy
D has kept us in games all year. I'm not quite sure why they are not even better.

I don't know why an offensive coordinator would not be a good play caller. But I think the problem is deeper. It takes MM too long to adjust and change. Sorry, I've never been a big MM fan. And I still blame him mostly for last years loss for not fixing special teams earlier. That might be a bit unfair as it was ultimately Bostick who didn't listen to instructions. But he kept Slocum TOOOOOO long.

ray nichkee's picture

Don't you mean Brandon botchkick?

Bearmeat's picture

Man... take a look at that picture of Eddie from last year. He is NOT in good shape this year. It's no one's fault but his own.

MarkinMadison's picture

Well, I didn't learn much about the Packers from reading these posts today. Really, I didn't learn anything about the Packers. I did learn that Tayrn is a girl (I always thought it was just an icon he liked). Yawn.

ray nichkee's picture

Um, Eddie lacy is out of the doghouse. Montgomery was at practice. The only guy held out was Cory linsley.(is that spelled right?)

Oppy's picture

Dangerously close to having an irreversible troll infestation.

I have personally seen one of the current posters here destroy a Packers message board single-handedly about a decade ago.

People need to learn to not feed the troll. I'm not even talking about Cow.

Oppy's picture

Edit to delete duplicate comment.

MarkinMadison's picture

Dear God.

ray nichkee's picture

I believe you started the post. I gladly updated you with some news. What gives?

DrealynWilliams's picture

Those damn Cardinals look GOOOOOD!

4thand1's picture

They blitz a lot. Minny shot themselves in the foot with turnovers. YEAH!

DrealynWilliams's picture

They can afford to do that with those corners and safeties they have.

Our receivers and Rodgers will have to bring their A game. Pre-snap and post-snap adjustments will be critical.

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