2022 Packers Stock Report: Week 8

Take a look at the stock report for the Green Bay Packers after a 27-17 loss to the Buffalo Bills in Week 8.

Are there such things as moral victories?

Not really, but I did feel better about that loss than the three previous.

It's clear that the Buffalo Bills are the superior football team, both coaching and talent-wise, but it was nice to see the Packers fight to the finish.

Still, there was plenty of ugly in the game that needs to be addressed. So let's get to addressing it.

We'll get into the stock report for the Green Bay Packers after a 27-17 loss to the Bills in Week 8.

BUY

David Bakhtiari- When David Bakhtiari is healthy and in the lineup, he is still one of the best left tackles in the game. After missing a game the week previous, Bakhtiari came back and all but stonewalled Von Miller and any other pass rusher who lined up against him. The problem is, can he stay on the field for the rest of the season? That's the million dollar question. But Sunday's performance was a good reminder that the guy has still got it.

Aaron Jones- Good things happen when you give Aaron Jones the football. Game after game, Matt LaFleur would speak about how the offensive staff needed to give Jones the football more. Well, they finally committed to it and look what happened. 20 carries for 143 yards is a heck of a stat-line. Despite the loss, the Packers offense moved the football better than it had in weeks, which is a promising sign for even more Aaron Jones' touches. Buy.

SELL

Darnell Savage- Here's the deal: Darnell Savage can't tackle. We all kind of knew that about him for the past couple years. However, his insane athletic ability and solid pass coverage masked that deficiency in his game. Well, this season he's struggled with all of the above. Sunday was his worst effort. He was beat over the top a couple times, whiffed on multiple tackles and was in the wrong place on run fits. It's time to see Savage on the sidelines. Give Rudy Ford a shot.

Joe Barry- I thought we made a step in the right direction against the Commanders. Even though he struggled, Jaire Alexander ended up covering Terry McLaurin for most of that game. Alexander and Buffalo Bills' WR1 Stefon Diggs got into it pre-game and I was ready to grab my popcorn. Then, Alexander proceeded to guard him for a total of 3 routes. Instead, he shadowed Gabe Davis for the majority of the game. Fantastic. Alexander is paid as the top corner in the league specifically to cover opposing teams No. 1 receivers. Why isn't he doing that? Couple that with Rob Demovsky's report that Barry is losing the locker room due to the unit's distrust and confusion in the gameplan, and holy cow I'm having a hard time understanding why Barry was even hired. Sell.

Trash-talk- I saw Jersey Al cover this in one of his posts, but man is it embarrassing to watch this defense get up and constantly talk trash to the other team after getting cooked all game. My goodness. Don't talk tough, play tough. If you're gonna talk trash, back it up.

HOLD

Everybody, apparently- Suprise, surprise: The Packers were neither buyers or sellers at the trade deadline yesterday. I'm sure Brian Gutekunst was "in on every conversation" though. I'm no front office guru, and I don't have aspirations to become a general manager any time soon. Managing my fantasy team is challenging enough. However, it is frustrating to watch, year-after-year, Green Bay's front office make zero moves to try and better this team. Especially this season. To me, the Packers should be all in on making this team better OR it's fire sale/plan for the future time. What I don't want to have happen is the Packers go 8-9 on the season, barely miss out on the playoffs and have a mid-round draft pick... which, unfortunately, seems like the route we're going down. *sigh*

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Gunnar Davis is a lifelong Packers fan and a recent graduate of Simpson College, where he was a 3-year letterwinner on the offensive line and graduated with a degree in multimedia communications. You can follow him on Twitter at @Gunnar57Davis.

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pacman's picture

November 02, 2022 at 12:28 pm

https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Article/Brian-Gutekunst-Gree...

I was in favor of Gute beefing up the D over the last few years but this article made me rethink that.

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PackyCheese500's picture

November 02, 2022 at 12:49 pm

I still think it is a good strategy, just not when you select players like Lowry, Wyatt, Savage, and Stokes (although there is still potential for him). Whiffing on Watson over Pickens/Pierce (which also cost us another 2nd rounder), Walker over Devin Lloyd (although Walker can still become an above average starter, in my opinion), and Jace Sternberger over Terry McLaurin in 2019 really hurt too. New GM needed.

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pacman's picture

November 02, 2022 at 07:06 pm

I think most of the players have shown they have potential. I think it is the coaches that have failed to mature them. Which is why I am not hopeful about turning this slump around.

I'm not saying I agree with the article 100%, but where would we be now if we did have a solid WR?

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Lare's picture

November 02, 2022 at 12:32 pm

Yep, the Packers will do nothing to replace Barry's worthless defensive scheme, replace a failing Savage, or make any changes to improve the talent on the team.

One thing you can say about Gutekunst, he's consistent.

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PackyCheese500's picture

November 02, 2022 at 12:46 pm

In all fairness, I think part of the reason why Savage is struggling is because of Barry's scheme. He had his 2 best years under Pettine.

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packerbackerjim's picture

November 02, 2022 at 08:06 pm

Scheme doesn’t explain his poor tackling.

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Coldworld's picture

November 02, 2022 at 01:55 pm

There are 2 things. The second is Gute doesn’t control coaches hiring or firing. That’s Murphy/LaFleur.

The other way of looking at that article is that Gute built a roster for post Rodgers and Murphy then sold the farm to paste Rodgers back in. I firmly believe that’s the root if this and the accelerant is the inept coaching on both sides of the ball. Rodgers is better ignoring LaFleur, in a meaningful sense, he always has been. LaFleur also can’t hire or manage his coaches. Welcome to where we are. This roster could have been better, although we were fooling ourselves thinking it was a contender like that of previous years.

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LeotisHarris's picture

November 02, 2022 at 03:48 pm

"The other way of looking at that article is that Gute built a roster for post Rodgers and Murphy then sold the farm to paste Rodgers back in. I firmly believe that’s the root if this and the accelerant is the inept coaching on both sides of the ball."

Powerful statement, CW, and accelerant is the perfect word choice.

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packerbackerjim's picture

November 02, 2022 at 08:10 pm

You nailed it, CW.

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Rarescope's picture

November 02, 2022 at 12:33 pm

RE trash-talk - I've heard multiple players cite that as a way of getting themselves fired up to play at their best. Embracing the adrenaline as it were. Pros schmos they're not accountants out there. Let them do their thing.

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PackyCheese500's picture

November 02, 2022 at 12:42 pm

If the Packers are to make the most of this season, here are 6 things they need to do Winning the division is out of the question at this point barring anything drastic (like an injury), but we could perhaps earn a wild card spot:

1. Fix the Secondary. Convert Savage full-time to nickel CB. He likes playing there, and is bad as a safety. Put in Rudy Ford at Safety. Move Douglas as the primary starting outside CB opposite Jaire; he's better there. If Ford doesn't work out at Safety, then move Douglas there.
2. Play Toure and Deguara more. We will get healthier at WR soon, but Toure deserves starting consideration in the slot. Deguara has shown potential in the last couple of games, and deserves more pass catching opportunities to see what he can do.
3. More D-linemen. Play with 3 DTs on the field more, not 2, like in the nickel alignment. This will help vs the run. More Slaton and Wyatt (to see what he can do) and less Lowry. Jack Heflin should also be elevated to see what he can do.
4. Run the Ball! Self-explanetory.
5. Use more than 5 O-linemen. This will help the Packers run the ball. On Monday night, I saw the Browns run a play where they had 8 offensive linemen on the field lining up at different positions. This will get better blocking for our RBs, and help us in the red zone. Using O-linemen as TEs also helps. Imagine lining up Caleb Jones or Rasheed Walker as a TE - very interesting what this could do for our offense.
6. Put Keisean Nixon as punt returner as well. Amari needs to go, and Nixon looked nice on Sunday returning kicks.

Of course, because these all are the logical thing to do, MLF and Barry will probably do the opposite.

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jlc1's picture

November 02, 2022 at 03:59 pm

Don't know that moving Savage anywhere can help. Defensive players, every last one of them, need to tackle. He doesn't. He needs to be off the field.

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 02, 2022 at 12:44 pm

I refuse to buy any, one player, when the team is a total sell. Don't let a hoped for win over Detroit inflate the value of the team or the one. What I say next will likely draw the ire of many, but this team isn't going on a run. Rodgers doesn't have the intestinal fortitude about this team to come up with a phrase of hope, like 'sshhh' or 'R,E,L,A,X.' to rally around. It's best to just let this team continue as is and hope they don't screw up getting a top 10 pick in the draft. Honestly, that should be the goal for the rest of this season because .500 makes any Buy a losing transaction.

It's OK, if another Division Title isn't won, because its actual value has meant very little in the playoffs, so Sell the Division rights for a year or two. You may actually win something more valuable by doing so.

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PackyCheese500's picture

November 02, 2022 at 12:45 pm

I don't even know if we win on sunday

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CheesedDeadHead's picture

November 02, 2022 at 12:53 pm

I haven't been too positive since the 3rd string - first game ever NE QB almost knocked off the Packers, but I see some advantages to playing the Lions. The Lions defense is likely worse than what we've seen so far. I have some confidence the Offense can move the ball and be productive. Whether the defense can stop any of the Lions drives may be the key to the outcome and I have a small glimmer of hope that Goff makes a mistake. Now watch it come down to a last minute field goal with the winner 10-7.

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CheesedDeadHead's picture

November 02, 2022 at 12:44 pm

Joe Barry is like the rotting bag of onions I found in my basement. No matter how many bags I put around it, the smell just seeped out and made everything stink. Two time loser soon to be 3-time loser! Look out if your local HS needs a coach because Joe Barry should be available very soon.

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splitpea1's picture

November 02, 2022 at 12:52 pm

Buy: Doubs, with his ability to make difficult catches; Toure: has earned more snaps; Dillon: fans were getting down on him a little bit for his reduced production, but I still think he's a great player to have on any offense.

Sell: The collective tackling effort. What the hell has happened here? They were pretty good in this department last season, but now it's putrid.

Sell: Watkins--has now become invisible; Watson--sorry, the guy just seems to have a cloud hanging over his head when it comes to staying on the field for any extended periods. It's a shame, because we really need his speed.

The Hold segment: 1) Before you do a fire sale, remove the deadwood on the coaching staff....No matter what, though, Savage should have been a prime candidate.

2) Gute "in on every conversation": Probably a good idea not to throw pricey future capital away at this year's team because they have too many issues. But in seasons past, I found it amusing that many fans and writers were against adding available players with offbeat personalities due to concerns that they would disrupt team chemistry. First of all, you only have to put up with them for a short time, and secondly, I'm pretty sure the Packers locker room isn't populated by monks who need to be protected from influences from the outside world. If you feel a particular player's talents can help you out in the short term as the playoffs approach, you go out and get him!

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jlc1's picture

November 02, 2022 at 04:01 pm

How do we know Gute was in on every conversation? Somebody in FO probably called a reporter to give him that scoop. Pure PR and pure BS.

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splitpea1's picture

November 02, 2022 at 04:16 pm

Of course it is--that's why the author put the oft-used phrase in quotes.

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T7Steve's picture

November 02, 2022 at 01:03 pm

Buy: Packer Fans!

Sell: Coaching Staff.

Hold: The O-line. Let's see if they can get all 5 starters out there and if they'll push instead of pull (pushed back).

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jlc1's picture

November 02, 2022 at 04:02 pm

Or maybe the O line can just hold.

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T7Steve's picture

November 03, 2022 at 10:40 am

Let's hold them to it.

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dobber's picture

November 02, 2022 at 01:53 pm

"Bakhtiari came back and all but stonewalled Von Miller and any other pass rusher who lined up against him."

If you need any additional proof, go re-watch the 4th and 1 play where Jones was caught in the backfield before he could get going by Von Miller, and watch how the 245 pound Miller basically rag-dolled the 315-lb Yosh Nijman and threw him in the way of Jones.

If Bakh can get over the practice schedule/knee issues, he's valuable to the team, but also valuable in trade--which allows the Packers to create some valuable cap room (although the savings aren't huge, depending on roster bonuses and timing) and start stockpiling draft capital.

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jlc1's picture

November 02, 2022 at 04:07 pm

There was a play, second drive I think, where the O line pulled to the right but Rodgers chose not to hand the ball to Jones and so he got sacked by a totally untouched Bill. Nobody seems to know what the plan is too often. This team is 3-5, same as the Bears. Anybody here ready to bet on beating the Bears? That is how truly, epically awful this team has become.

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packerbackerjim's picture

November 02, 2022 at 08:36 pm

If Bahk can get healthy, or healthier, trade isn’t out of the question. Nijman struggles at RT but fairly good at LT.
Toure showed very good moves on his TD, something not seen since Davante.
Tom shows promise.
I didn’t particularly care a WR wasn’t acquired. A RT would have been welcome.

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stockholder's picture

November 02, 2022 at 01:58 pm

Savage - Gutey Should have never drafted him. It seems we have this Idea that every guy we draft is the next Nick Collins.
Even Ha Ha Dix couldn't come close. And then there was Williams who was the player coach.
I thought the Brain Trust had Dix right. But in Truth. The guy couldn't tackle either. And just because they're a #1 pick, we pamper them.
But the biggest mistake Gutey is Making. IS DRAFTING A FS IN THE FIRST PLACE !!!!!!!! High; won't get you the RIGHT player.
The guy who was the correct choice was BUTLER. And even Williams. The Veterans KNOW! They Tackle! They know whats it's like to play Cb. And They know the when the wheels come off. Their smarts have to make up for it.
Truthfully it's Time for the packers to pick up a well known CB. And turn him into a FS again. I get the cap cost. But it's time for RESULTS

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