Letting go of heroes is hard in any endeavor. Pro football QB's with first ballot HOF credentials are given longer leashes than most because we want to believe in our hearts they can catch lightning in a bottle again even though our eyes and our heads tell us it's probably not happening.

I've been involved in sales for a large chunk of my life. I always ask young bucks and buckettes who want to try selling as a means to earn their daily bread who's their biggest competitor? And they always say another competitor, another product, another provider.

That's when I tell them the biggest hurdle they have to overcome is the status quo. No matter how much we try to argue to the contrary, human's aren't good at accepting change.

I wish someone would have shared that thought with Murphy and Gute last March.

Move on? Absolutely Not!
You owe me! Thats the view I see.
You owe ACR money. No matter what.
You couldn’t keep your staff together.
You drafted a QB that will never be his equal.
You let his Wrs leave. The chemistry was gone.
He didn’t want to be part of a Rebuild.
And You put him behind the eight ball from the start.
And then you tell the world, we’re a super-bowl team.
Yet the development went to Jordan Love from the start.
They put together a bunch of OL who were never ready.
To keep him upright. And expect miracles.
Damn straight ACR has to think about it. He got hurt.
His patience is shot; with expectations, and over achievement.
We’ve seen MLF teams not be ready for Games.
Why should he be coach, GM, and cheerleader?
It’s much easier to go golfing and let the blind lead the blind.
(The escape to sanity and a quiet place with No interference. )
I support Rodgers decision whatever it maybe.
But I’ll give him 1 more year because he’s earned it.
And unless he is the QB. Forget about the All-in.

To me it’s not really about Love. He just the man up first. To me it’s not really even about Rodgers the player. It’s about accepting the fact that we don’t have the resources to make Rodgers make sense any more. As such, pouring resources into the QB position makes no sense. That our leaders thought otherwise last year was baffling. That that seems to still be their only strategy is pathetic. I have no faith in the packers leadership at this point.

IMO the Packers need to move on from AR12...Will they? I bet not. A 90% chance he's a Packer.
Come on folks...did you see Brock Prudy, a 7th rounder for the 49ers-Mr Irrelivant- tear it up yesterday.
Kids today are faster, stronger, better trained, coached, have the desire, and have fewer injuries.
If I could afford to buy any team in the NFL, IMO, I would trade most of the old cars in for newer editions...and as many new ones as I could get.
Draft wisely, and get youth with the speed and desire that these OLD guys with bloated salaries and egos have lost with time and injuries.

Sorry but I soured on Rodgers years ago. Not his skills, but his attitude. An attitude that has contributed to the unholy mess this team is in. He's at the core of the problem.

At some point a team has to say good-bye. I remember the 'so longs' to Bart Starr, Ray Nitschke, etc. It has to be done. Sadly, because Rodgers held the team hostage, they have largely tied themselves to a goalpost from a financial standpoint.

On another site I said if Rodgers won't retire this year the team should look for a trade(Jets?) and failing that, simply cut him. Financially it's suicide, but how else do you move forward? Consider this: Rodgers returns as does Jordan Love. Love sits on the bench another year. Both Rodgers and Love become free agents in 2025. I doubt Love will want to wait that long and likely would force a trade. Then 40+ year old Rodgers retires and the team has a practice squad dude to lead the team or a washed up retread. The Packers have invested heavily to train Love, and from a limited sample, it appears he's come around.

If the Packers bring back Rodgers, they should consider trading Love this off season and use the extra top pick to find the next QB candidate. That's a bit counter productive but Rodgers would likely feel less threatened this time around.

I guess as fans we shouldn't worry about this, but the team is literally being held hostage by all the contracts they have and they have no one to blame for that except themselves.

It is instructional to see what a playoff team can do with Mr. Irrelevant, the 3rd stringer playing with a productive run game, solid O line, attacking D, solid STs and effective, imaginative, inspired coaching.

How would Jordan Love perform as QB of the Niners?

Bruce, nice questions you raised here.

The bigger the ego, the greater the fear of failure within the person. Ego is nothing else than defense mechanism vs fears inside the person. He tells you that you are near or completely perfect and all your failures are really the failures of others, not yours.

"I have a lot of pride in what I've accomplished in this league, but I'm also a realist and I understand where we are as a team.", he said on press conference. Why? We all knows that. He didn't need to say that. Who he is trying to convince in that fact (because this is the fact!). If you'll think about that statement little deeper, you'll find out that it was his need to say that to himself, to justify to himself, not to others.

Same you can take on his statement about money he would left if he retires.

What fear can produce in person? Complete block on your capabilities and doubt in yourself (like should I toss the ball harder or lighter, should I toss the ball to this or to that receiver, what will D do, etc. To translate better - will I throw the ball to Allen Lazard or ESB or to DA, AL & ESB might drop it, so I should throw to Davante, he will find a way to catch it!)

This is basic psychology. Nothing complicated. My own life experience comes to that solution. I had huge Ego when I was young. I achieved a lot, but never on top. Because of that I was punished by life a lot. Losing perspective and making crucial mistakes. And one day I stood in front of the mirror. And start to talk to myself, using logic, not emotion and slowly I started to understand what my Ego did to me. It was slow and painfull process, lasted at least one year if not longer. I started to listen to others about myself. And I was surprised. All of them saying what I felt in myself, about my fear of be mistaken and how my mistakes makes anyone friendship hard to sustain. I had few friends who sticks with me during my Ego period. They were first to fire a lot of criticism on me.

Today, I am a person who is confident in himself, ready to admit a mistake or ignorance in an area that I have not studied or dealt with. It helps a lot for me to avoid crucial mistakes.

I established my company, have 16 employees and listen and learn from them in every aspect of their expertise which I do not know enough of it, refusing to listen others only when their opinion is in colision with my view what and how my company needs to work on the market.

We are receiving few offers monthly from people who wants to work for my company and that is the highest confirmation for me that I'm on the right path.

Thanks and apology for this long post.

I think the author summed up Rodgers physical decline very well, but failed to tie it to the other half of the issue - his contract. Managing a salary cap is all about value - performance versus pay. Rodgers is the highest paid player in the league but performed at an average NFL QB level in 2022. And that value proposition won't get better in 2023 as his contract continues to escalate and he will be another year older and another year in decline.

If Rodgers were paid significantly less it might make sense to "play it again" as the additional cap space could build a stronger team around him. But the Packers are stuck with the highest paid player in the league and he is no longer elite. Rodgers is the reason the Packers will not contend for a Super Bowl for the remainder of his contract - too large a percentage of the cap invested in a guy who can no longer play at an elite level.

I think every writer here has now had their chance to write a "move on" article.

It's time CHTV moved on.

How about the old, "2022 positional review" articles we used to have? I would like to see those over this self-flagellation.

Bring on the draft articles.

I guess I dont understand why the Packers drafted JL. Not only drafted him but MOVED UP to do so. They had just signed AR to a contract extension and at that time I thought getting him some help would be the thing to do. What that did was stir up a hornets nest, Also IMHO thats what drove AR to refocus and lite up the league again. (At least in the regular season). If any of you have ever been replaced by a younger version you know how that feels. Nobody is immune to that feeling. But anyway here we are. I will answer my own question with the reason they drafted JL is to take the time to develop him. How many Rookies have we seen crash and burn getting thrown to the wolves right away? The Covid year (2020) he got 0 experience. No preseason and he didn't even suit up. In 2021 after AR had his hissy fit with the team JL did get some snaps in preseason with the back ups and he wasnt ready. No surprise there. But then in the offseason AR stayed away. This is when the tide turned for JL . Now hes running with the ones all the time until AR decided to come in. He also got a ton of snaps during the week when AR was hurting. Now what I was hearing from the players that are with him every day is that the kid can play. Then came the Philly game. Yes a short sample size but this wasnt the guy I had seen before. This was a guy that had been practicing with the ones and gaining there trust. Isnt this how you develop a player? (See Rashan Gary) Will JL be AR at his best? No I dont think so. Who will? Can JL be AR that we see today? Yes. Its time to rip the band aid off and move on. Will there be growing pains? For sure. Just remember. AR won 6 game his first year. BF won 8. It takes time and the time is now.

I want to see Love run a MLF offense, since Rodgers won’t. Then and only then, will we truly see what this offense can do. Right now, Rodgers Is holding this team hostage, running his offense.

Giving a 4 year deal to the back to back MVP with 3 straight 13 win seasons was not a surprise--especially when the QB is the most important position in football, if not all of sports. I suspect they know what they have in Love, which is why they were willing to go "all in" with Rodgers, just like they knew what they had in Rodgers when they allowed Favre to walk. Rodgers, playing with a broken throwing hand thumb, a cracked rib (tho later in the season), a new offensive coordinator, the loss of his WR1, mostly rookies to throw to, and a rotating O line, still managed a statistically average season and was one win away from a play off berth. The NFL is a win now league. The FO knows that. If Rodgers has another declining season next year, that will be a different story. But with everything that happened this year, to cut him loose now would probably be a bad idea and certainly makes little sense.

I was ready to move on after loss in playoffs last season. As mentioned, this year was subpar even before the thumb injury. Most notable is many balls fall short or off target drastically. AR looks slow and indecisive in the pocket. Then it's clear he has lost a lot of his mobility. A lot of his past success was based on his mobility to extend plays, and he simply doesn't have that ability any more.

To properly utilize a less mobile aging QB, you need a running game, good OL to keep him clean, and good defense. You also need a QB that recognizes that he is not the rock star of the offense. A team wants the experience and fewer mistakes from old QBs. I don't think AR will ever accept that he is not the entire offense, and will continue to walk all over MLF and the entire organization. With AR as the QB, the dysfunction will continue, and there is zero chance of success, because eventually it will come down to AR thinking he is 10 years younger.

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Sobering to accept but the reality is he's 40 and there's a lot of wasted years but he had his final Swan song over the last couple of seasons. Even management squandering that for many years it was he that didn't take advantage of it when it counted. It is what it is.

Now if there's anyone like Brady that can have another great year he can, but we can't pay him $60 million to do that. It makes no sense. Love needs to play and we can't afford to pay Rogers that type of money to be a part tiime player so I guess he's going to be like Favre then move on to the Jets or someone else.

Now with all that said and given who we have running the show that almost assures us that he's going to be playing one more year in GB.

It was up to me given the roster we have I would draft a whole ton of offensive lineman very large fast ones and start Love next year keep Jones and see what happens. Yeah I know it's a pipe dream but it does seem to be a logical thing to do.

I think the biggest change in Rodgers was Davante Adams .

The problem with that, and there’s considerable merit to it, is that Adams and Rodgers was repeatedly shown not to be the answer when it matters and before the cap started to truly bite into what is around them. In the regular season, yes, but Rodgers isn’t paid that much for that: he’s paid at a level that demands real contention. What Adams did was make our coaching look competent beyond what was really apparent.

Yes, but not just Adams. Going into the season GB had a bottom of the league receiver room, and it really didn't get a whole lot better as the season went on. Watson certainly had a very good second half but beyond that, what? Which receiver made a difference in any game?

Last year we all lamented that there was no #2 behind Devante, and this past season the Pack tried to go without even a #1. Disaster.

Next year, what do you see? I see hope (and not much more than hope) that Watson and Doubs grow. Still a below average room.

I was here a year ago saying trade him and sell high for a boatload of picks.

Here we are a year later hoping the same thing. Will Gutey do it? MLF won't, I think most of us can agree on that. MLF just looks at next season, but Gutey has to look at the next 10 years for the franchise itself.

Say what you will about Ted Thompson (RIP), but he had the balls the trade Favre away after Rodgers sat for 3 years. He was looking out for the Packers from a long-term perspective. And oh by the way, Thompson traded Favre away after Favre led the Packers to the 2007 NFC Championship game.

We just missed the playoffs. There is NO comparison.

It's time. Rip the band-aid off. Otherwise this team will go down in flames, just like the Saints did when they held onto Brees for too long.

Uh, you don't have an accurate read of what went down with Favre, buddy. If Favre had not waffled about retiring, Ted Thompson would have had Favre in the starting slot - at least until Brett showed enough of a decline that Rodgers would look like the better option. When Favre gave the team the impression that he was actually done they had no choice but to go with Rodgers. Then Favre, late in the year, decided to come back. Well Ted then said that Favre could compete for the job. Favre wasn't going to settle for that. Brett then said "release me". The Packers weren't going to do that because they wouldn't get anything in return. THAT"S when they traded him. So the current situation with Rodgers is not similar to the Favre situation. Rodgers had one down year - a year which saw a lot of challenges, including the loss of an elite receiver, the introduction of rookie receivers, a mess of an offensive line, a terrible kickoff returner, a defense that did not consistently perform to considerably higher expectations, and yes, an injured thunb (let's see how well you or anyone throws with an injured thumb).

Why is it that people seem to so easily forget that previous to this season (a season with so much upheaval) Aaron was the TWO-TIME DEFENDING MVP??? What do you think would have happened this year if Davante stayed, the offensive line had as good a year as last year, and Aaron had not been injured? Can you honestly say that Aaron definitely wouldn't have had another great season?? If you say "yes", what's your evidence?

By the way, prior to Tom Brady winning the Super bowl with the Buccaneers, he had a bad season or two as well. I can remember people , including sportscasters, saying Brady was done.

17 games and AR never showed the magic of what we grew accustomed too, dropping 3-5 of those game changing dimes, never happened. So I think that’s the answer going forward, what we saw for the entire year is what it is. Is it that hard to call it what it is? He’s lost that part of special.

So if you want more of AR you are totally believing this entire year was the one off and he’ll be 40 next year and back to special….because?

The guy that wrote this needs a proofreader. Somebody help him!

Watching other teams we see plays run and wonder why the Packers don’t do that , a lot of motion , why not line up Watson in the backfield with Jones to confuse the defense , jumbo package on the goal line , do the packers have a jumbo package or is it just Jones running into the middle for a loss , it’s not so much Brock Purdy as it is I believe solid coaching on SF at every level they can plug and play , the Packers can’t , how many times do we have to say MLF was out coached ?

We drafted Love to be the starting QB of the Packers. He's done his apprenticeship. It's time to move forward with the plan the organization has been working on for years.

I sometimes ask myself if Rodgers' tea sipping had anything to do with his decline. Realizing he did have a hand injury and that had obviously played a part. But does the ayahuasca have any long term effects....maybe causing some debilitation of reflexes, both mental and physical. It seems like this year he didn't see the field as efficiently as in the past.